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perspective on all that this president is accomplishing. stay with us. good night from new york. kennedy: the iranians are lying about their nuclear weapons program and they can never be trusted. this according to israeli prime minister ben gentleman anyone netanyahu who today says he has the evidence to prove it. and the president saying he's 100% right about iran and the bad deal. will he pull out of the contract? it was aimed squarely at the white house. so how does the prime minister know the iranians are up to no good? his spy stole some secret documents. watch. >> from the outside this was an
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innocent looking compound, looks like a dill lap tate tated ware. but on the inside it contained iran's archives locked in massive files. they're a little bigger than this. a few weeks ago in a great intelligence achievement israel obtained half a ton of the material inside these vaults. kennedy: well that's not good. but it's important to point out that netanyahu did not provide the evidence that iran has violated the 2015 deal. he said it is proof that iranian leaders covered up a nuclear program before signing it. with the deadline in less than two weeks, will the president use this information to justify tearing it up? with we now, fox news contributor mollie hemingway. how does prime minister netanyahu's speech change the conversation about the iran nuke deal? >> i'm not sure he was aiming
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toward president trump who has always said she didn't like the deal and wants to get out of it so much as the european allies that would be needed. if we're to get out of the deal and europe is staying in, that could isolate the u.s. and not doing as much as needs to be done with iran. this might have been aimed at the european allies who are wondering what can be done about this deal or how hard to fight forstaying in it. kennedy: let's say that he's sending a message to angela merkel and emanuel macron saying, you know, hold on to your horses for just a second, guys. because there is so much wrong not only with the deal but iran cannot be trusted. we're just overcoming some of our north korean trust issues which we'll get to in a little bit with gordan chang. but molly, how do you overcome some of the nefarious ways that iran has been acting in light of this deal? >> it was funny, too. the people who put together the deal, the obama bros during the obama administration, they were
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known for putting an echo chamber around the deal so that everybody would support it. for years they have said you have to support this deal, iran has been in compliance, has been in compliance. kennedy: he said that. he publicly stated what you just said. >> yes. and now today when we get this other report from israel and they are sharing this evidence with other countries, they're saying that oh, we always knew iran lied. you can't have it both ways. either you knew they with weren't in compliance so why were you telling people they were or there's another issue going on. but it is also another issue. what do you do just because they're not in compliance. that is not as easy or cut and dry as possible. the ultimate goal, what obama said he was doing by signing the deal was keeping iran from getting nuclear weapons in four different ways. i this i h e was way too eager for a deal and way too trusting of a group 37 but what that does that mean going forward? there's a lot of way to negotiate and work together to con train iran was developing
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nuclear weapons, the ultimate goal. kennedy: it's interesting. there's a difference between actually solving a problem and doing something to look like you're solving a problem when you're really trying to secure your legacy. and you know, i would say that's what president obama was doing, because so much of this is secretive. it was not taken before the senate. it was not explained properly to the american people. and it really did feel almost like obama care where it was rushed through without proper airing out or vetting process. >> right. it's very easy to get out of this deal precisely because of what you said. it was not ratified by the senate. not a treaty. easy to come in and out of these things. that's something that president trump could kee showedpresident. he should make sure to make the case to the american people, get the two thirds of the senate to sign on to any treaty so it really is binding. kennedy: let me ask you this.
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we talked about this last week. the president appears t appearse having a great deal of suck soases on the korean peninsula that we haven't seen perhaps in thithe history of that country d the last four administrations. if this works in north korea, will the president apply the same mechanism to iran and the iran deal? >> that's why it is so important how we handle iran. north korea is a much more important situation in that that they do have nuclear weapons as opposed to ma what we're trying to do with iran, keeping them from getting it. we need to be known as people who keep our word. we need to be known as duff negotiators. but there's -- you know, it is a delicate situation. you want the world to know that when we sign on to something it really means something. that's why i believe the iran deal was a corrosive thing domestic and internationally. and we have to be careful. if iran lies, that goes double for north korea which has a long history of claiming they're going to give up their nuclear
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program and not actually doing it. kennedy: that's a perfect entry into our next discussion. south korea president arguing that president trump deserves the nobel peace prize but his efforts to end the nuclear standoff with north korea could be a boon to the peace industry. and it comes as the president says he's ready to meet with kim jong-un anytime anywhere. >> we're look at various countries with ub including singapore and we're also talking about the possibility of the dmz, peace house, freedom house. and there's something that i thought was intriguing. i think that some people maybe don't like the look of that and some people like it very much. i threw it out today as an idea. kennedy: the president's comments come day of after north and south korea held that historic meeting that you saw live on this program. kim vowed to klous north korea's
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nuclear test site if the u.s. promises not to attack them experts say that the north has made a lot of empty promises in the past so should we buy into little kim's pledge to give them a chance. let me ask gorda gordon chang. we've heard this song and dance many times from north korea. how is the choreography going to be different so they don't just make promises and then immediately renege on them? >> this is going to be up to president trump. the united states has the power to force kim to do what he doesn't want to do. which is to give up his most destructive weapons. we can do that with force, of course, but we can also do it short of force, economic sanctions on north korea but also more importantly going after the north's primary backer backers, russia and china. we have not done much going after beijing and moscow. we can d do it. it's trump question. not a kim question. kim is always going to tell awes
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lie. but so what. it's up to us to make sure he can't do that. kennedy: it's interesting because this meeting between the north korea and south korea leaders felt historic and it felt like they had a bond and let it sort of peer into that and there was a sense of jeub lens ajeublens. what is the takeaway of what is important for us to know. >> the first time that a north korea leader went to south korea even after the fighting ended in the korean war. you talk about a bond between those two guys. moon, the south korea president is very pro-north korea and he surrounded himself with is adviser who in their youth were part of north korea ad 0 vo kacy groupsoadvocacygroups. and what president trump had to do is to prevent moon from doing
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what he wanted to do. it's important for trump to box in moon at the same time he deals with kim. it's op an easy task but the president has done a good job of that. kennedy: president moon has talked glowingly about president trump. it's one thing for a republican senator like lindsey graham to say if this all works out president trump deserves a nobel peace prize. it's something very dpircht for the leader of south korea to be saying the same thing. >> i think what moon is trying to do is to make sure that trump doesn't do what trump might do and that is to actually use force against north korea. he's trying to get trump to want the prize and to get that prize you have to have a deal. so i think he's forcing trump into a deal that trump wouldn't -- shouldn't do. and then that's the real issue there. kennedy: so if there's something that benefits south korea, does that mean that it's at the detriment of the united states? >> can very well be. you know, south koreans, they like the united states by and large, especially older jokerrians and younger south
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koreans. younger south korea south koreh korean nationalists. they don't see the unification as a big deal. kennedy: that's a generational thing. very interesting. >> politics in south korea are divided and age oriented. some moon comes from the 386 generation, it's 65. they grew up trying to get democracy for south korea and they mistakenly agree that the u.s. owzen the sides of the generals preventing democracy. moon and his generation are largely anti-american but those are the guys running the country right now. they're driving the political system and you've got older south koreans and younger south koreans who have different attitudes. kennedy: and it's interesting because the greatest export that south korea has culturally is k pop. and their pop culture which is so intoxicating for the rest of the world, particularly in the
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united states, people are very intrigued by it. we'll see -- and the cold war, there is an argument to be made that rock and roll brought down the wall. so maybe the same thing with happen with millennials in south korea and their form of diplomacy will reign supreme. we'll see. always good to talk to you all right. so what is the president's plan for the world's major trouble spots. right now, come on, he's not saying. >> whatever happens, happens. look. i may go, may not work out. i leave. i'm not going to be a john kerry who makes that horrible iran deal. $1.8 billion in cash. you know what that is? you know what they got? they got nothing. they got nothing. we're going to have a hopefully successful negotiation over the next three or four weeks and we'll be doing the world a big favor. kennedy: so will the president's
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hardball tactics with work with north korea and iran and if so does he deserve two nobel prizes. let me ask our fox news contributor, jessica. and a columnist for the daily beast and the producer of the fifth column podcast, anthony fisher. and author of "the social justice warrior handbook" natalie. jessica, i think there's a great deal of hope on the horizon with north korea and i also think that it could be a template for iran which has hawks in this country scratching their heads. >> yes. i did peek to gordon before the program and he said if trump was to get the peace prize for the north korea situation it would be a three-way split. only a third of a peace prize.
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obama, kerry and trump would all split the peace prize. i think there's no peace prize there. so very hopeful about north korea and it's nice to see that after the euphoria over the initial hey we could have a meeting and then seeing those two leaders shake hands which is generational momentous i think for all of us, that cooler heads have prevailed and everyone is saying we know who kim jong-un is. this is a man who is a liar. this is a man who doesn't want us to do what we want him to do. and i think the economic sanctions are an increasing part of it. kennedy: i don't anthony, you change someone implicitly like kim jong-un. he's still got labor camps and he's not, you know, systemic torture. it's incredibly sad that people in north korea are so much shorter and much more
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malnourished than their family members and counterparts in south korea. but you do have to do something if you want to bring this guy in to the international community. you to appeal to his ego and his wallet and he has to live under the unpredictable threat of military action of the united states apparently to jostle him into action. is that appropriate? >> it's the only thing that will do. kim jong-un is his father's son, his grandfather's grandson. the kim dynasty operates just as you said, and they are not going to evolve, not going to reform. the only thing to do to avoid a certain nuclear catastrophe or the very least the leveling of seoul by mortar fire is to stick them into somewhat of a liveable compliance. using the word compliance is gross when it comes to a rogue state like that. but we can't have a hot war with north korea.
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kennedy: you can't. you absolutely can't. and that's the difference between past administrations and this administration. and lindsey graham on our network today said donald trump is crazy and kim jong-un knows it and that's to the benefit of the united states. they're not going to mess with them perhaps in ways that they have with past administrations. imagine how far you would have to press president obama, how angry you would have to make him for him to rhetorically engage with kim jong-un the way president trump does. and that's scary for him. obviously like kim jong-un apparently said to moon jay in, just get the united states to agree to the peace war so we can end it. that is the thing that scares them the most. >> but the point of the concentration camps and the forced labor is an important point. at some point i think for there to be real peace and a real end, it has to be closed and acknowledged. kennedy: and it can't just be
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get rid of your nukes. it hads t has to be on some levu have to stop killing people by the thousands in your own country. you have to stop smothering baby and raping women. it's not okay. >> unfortunately with people like this, as always in the argument for the iranian nuke deal, it's better to have something on the books than to have nothing. and if they're complying with some of it, that's better than running rogue with the support of china and russia and whoever else wants to funnel them weapons. kennedy: you could say the same thing about russia and iran. party panel is returning later in the show. i promise you that. breaking news about a potential trade war. we'll tell you what it could mean for you wallet. i know you want more money. i'm trying to make you rich. stay right here. voids them.
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president trump has just postponed a decision about which countries are exempt from his administration's steel and aluminum tariffs. the original deadline midnight tonight. why the change of heart? edward lawrence live in washington with more. >> kennedy, i can tell you with the original deadline looming, the u.s., according to sources familiar with the negotiations,
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has now made agreements with four countries to exempt them from steel and aluminum tariffs in the united states. originally the president has a midnight thrien fo deadline forr of countries, he's postponed that 30 days to june 1st. argue tina, australia, brazil, canada and mexico. the u.s. has reached agreements with argentina, australia and brazil. details finalized in the next 30 days. originally south korea was on that exempt list but the south koreans made a side deal last month after he announced those tariffs to be imposed. the south korean deal will be finalized tonight. also mexico and canada still in negotiations with nafta. this 30-day postponement allows all sides to hammer out a and aa deal and try to get that done. one country not on this list at all is china. china already has the tariffs imposed on them. we have a number of people going
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to china on thursday to hammer out a trade deal with the chinese. they're very concerned because of their trade imbalance that benefits over china over the united states. chinese saying they're removing exceptions on tariffs for the united states, 128 u.s. products to be exact in retaliation for the tariffs that we improse impn fem. them and their tariffs are 25% to fruit and pipes that go into the chinese economy. president trump said that he would make a deal with any country that wanted to come forward and make a fair trade deal with the united states. back to you. kennedy: edward lawrence, thanks so much. is the administration coming to its senses on the danger of a looming trade war and how will this affect you. let me ask commentary editor tim carny. you and i both share the desire to be trade war free for you and
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me and all of the other frolicking economic booming americans who don't want the goods and services and products they love and adore to be more expensive. what is going on with this delay? >> well hopefully this shows that what the trump administration was trying to accomplish was holding tariffs over these countries as a threat. it's an odd threat because they hurt both the countries we're threatening and us. but if it's mostly saying you have to give up your own protectionism or your own overregulation, then he could be working towards a case of actually freer trade. one of the problems, though, is that we mentioned south korea. one of the concessions we got for south korea was instead of tariffs it was quotas. in other words, south korea was only allowed to sell so much steel into our country. they had to reduce their exports into the u.s. by 20%. that's an even worse policy than tariffs. so my optimistic view is what
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he's doing is he's threatening the tariffs to try to get them to stop subsidizing their own industries or keeping out american goods. that good. i like that. that's free trade. if he's giving up the tariffs for quotas, that's worse. kennedy: that's robbing peter to pay paul. and paul doesn't deserve it right now, not in the con he came home in last night. let's discuss a little bit china. this is interesting. and it seems that the timing of this is not coincidental when we're talking about north korea and diplomatic strategies and solutions and kind of relegating china to the sidelines here. does keeping them out of trade exceptions have the same effect? >> well, i do think that trump sees everything -- a lot of -- it's all power deals. and so he's not going to say -- he says if you guys won't do this deal on north korea, we will do it without you.
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and he wants to say on trade, we're not going to give you concessions unless you come to us. so his approach to diplomacy, i think, is his natural combativeness tempered a little bit by surrounding himself with people who are into diplomacy. keeping china out. a lot of -- i do think that donald trump too much sees thing as black and white, winner, loser and we wants to beat china. and beating china in trade does not help us. what would help us is to convince china to stop subsidizing all of their industries. they're hurting china and us. kennedy: it's a state-run economy each though there are free market elements. >> they're a fake capitalist country. so what we need to do is -- there's too many people in this administration like wilbur ross who want to emulate china. we do not need to say we become more like china, we need to say
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china become more like us. kennedy: on some level they hate our freedom. maybe hate is too strong of a word. they're resentful of our freedom. >> i think it's a very different mind-set. we have a mind-set rooted in jefferson and the ancient greeks in the bible. and in the east there's a very different mine set. and the idea of a free market democracy they see it as a useful tool -- or the free market capitalism, they sousse it aesee itas a tool to maximiz. if you want to sell something and i want to buy something, the government needs to have a real good reason to get in the way. kennedy: they've come up with too many good reasons lately. thank you so much coming up with, the notorious immigrant caravan in mexico has now reached the u.s. border. do we let them into our patch of heaven or turn them back on the highway to hell. the monologue is next.
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tensioned hard workers, their plight has been reduced to a gag that has become a punching bag for immigration hard liners. the flashy headline grabbers will make it harder for future asylum seekers as the president fans the flames of caravan. the once lovely nations in central america have been worn down to grubby nubs that are compromised bid narco terrorist cartels that have run these decimated dumps into the ground. people are escaping hollowed out dens of cronyism. americans demand more drugs than their central american souther
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parts. though they supply our noses and gains they don't enjoy the gains. and america doesn't know what kind of country it wants to be. are we a national freely exchanges capital goods and currency or do we see humanity as a zero sum pursuit. we have to get better at welcoming and vetting good people who want to work hard and we can do that by ending the drug war and the entitlement state and allowing individuals to make their own decisions about what they snort, who they snort it off of and where they live. that's the memo. president trump has instructed the department of homeland security not to allow people from the caravan to cross into the u.s.
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saturday at mist began rally he told the crowd there is a demand for immigrant labor. president trump: the employment is so good we need to let people come in. they need to work on your farms. we have a lot happening, but them they have to go out. but we have to let them in because you need them. you need them. kennedy: you do need them. they can stay, they can't just take our stuff. if we need them why are we fighting tooth and nail to limit immigration further. anthony fisher, do i have it wrong? >> i'm pretty much on board with you. i believe there is a bit of an incoherency. either you trade for people to work in the workforce are good.
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but you can't have it one or the other. kennedy: democrats want to pretend they are tough on border security. but they want a whole crop of new voters so they are willing to give them a bunch of new stuff. which we know isn't free. >> i think that's the issue. order of all these things. if we are going to have the welfare state and the war on drugs that's not working. at what point do we say we have too get rid of those things first and then we can have these things, like allowing more people to come into the country. >> no one who has been elected in washington, d.c. has the nards to say that. but that's what you have to do. it sound tough and cruel but that's not the function of government. >> for a larger social safety net. the issue with the caravans is
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incredibly complicated. the way i understand it you can apply for asylum in your home country. i believe 75% of those applications are denied. so that leaves the people who are the victims of dry lens are in a tough spot. if you have children and you want a better life for them, you will risk a hell of a lot to get there. kennedy: the majority of the people coming here want a better life. they are fighting to get out of a bad place to go to a good place. but the government doesn't do a good job of figuring out who is going to come here and work. >> remember how long we had wet foot, dry foot policy for cuba. it was a policy designed to punish the cuban regime.
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china, a lot of places. but there are people absolutely fleeing violence and whether that is corruption or cartels, they have legitimate cases for asee you legal. and they should have their -- cases for asylum. >> i think i was heartened and i know we agree on what trump was saying about the guest workers. they are not coming for your jobs. that's the argument free traders and free labor enthusiasts are making all the time. you saw the michigan crowd didn't like it. all those workers who used to be democrats and now voted for trump are saying what are you talking about. you said you were going to keep everybody out. you don't want to be a farmer's assistant, you don't want to be picking fruit. kennedy: maybe they do. it's hard work and it's difficult to make a sell to
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people who have been living a much easier life by relative standards. it's honorable and worthwhile. >> it's not something i believe americans are running after those jobs in droves. >> it's not only grueling farm work. there are a lot of manual labor jobs going unfilled because americans don't want it. kennedy: the migrant caravan if it does make it to the country, no one needs to get too excited because the co-founder of google says robots are going to kill us all, not mexicans. he warns while i'm optimistic to bring technology to bear on the greatest problems in the world, we are on a path that we must tread with deep responsibility,
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care and humility. translation, we are doomed. he is helping the pentagon to analyze video surveillance drones. a project thousands of google employees demanded the company withdraw from. how are you going to kiss up to the robots. >> i'm worried when the person using ai as a business model warns us about it. that's kind of scary. >> it in the company newsletter. that's something he was telling his employees. usually you pump up your employees. now the don't be evil company is saying we are kind of evil. kennedy: they are going to get smarter than us.
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they probably already are and they are just waiting because it's fun like a little mouse trapped in the corner by a big ugly demon cat. >> i saw they updated the chat bots that have conversations. but i found this refreshing. that a tech giant ceo was admitting there are unanswered questions and potential risks to all of this. and i wonder if it's somewhat informed with mark zuckerberg that you see things can get wildly out of control and you don't know how ai can take your business. >> kennedy: they texted pictures of his -- >> is that true? kennedy: i don't know. now it's out there.
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kennedy: some say the best defense is a strong offense and several high-profile republicans agree. senator ted cruz, you know him, and freedom caucus chair mark meadows is worried that the gop has not done enough with the house and senate majority to prevent a democratic whopping in the fall. meadows says they should pass at least one landmark legislation bill each month. will the monthly plan be enough to beat back the blue wave? let me ask former utah congressman and fox news contributor jason chaffetz. it's a tall order. there are fractures in both
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parties. it's not just republicans. but it would be difficult to pass a hallmark piece legislation a month. how do they do it? >> they are supposed to be going through the budge yet appropriation process. there is no justification for numbers that high. if you campaigned on raising domestic spending by 15% to all-time highs. stop worrying about keeping the lead. let's play defense and make sure we don't lose the lead. but that is the trajectory they are on. the senate doesn't even pretend to do a budget. it's one of the core things. they can make the tax code
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permanent. kennedy: they are not going to do anything on obamacare. they want to scrap it and remodel it. no one knows they want a victorian or tudor style modern. they could have some bipartisan with infrastructure. >> if you pass a budget then you can get to reconciliation. if you get to reconciliation you only have to get to 51 votes in the senate. we are on course to do another omnibus in september. gop do congressional republicans despise their counterparts in the senate? >> yes, because they don't do anything. the air is different. they don't walk across. kennedy: what do republican senators think of house
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republicans? >> i'm not sure. i'm sure when they wage at 11:00 -- i have got a lot of respect for individual senators like james langford and cory gardner. there are some good people. but a lot of people say since the 1974 budget act it only worked once. kennedy: never mind the divisions within the party. the divisions within congress are so great, i don't think there is any way hopeful mark meadows gets his wish. >> i think the president can help drive that formula and mark me dose is absolutely right. congress is not in session this week. they still work hard. they do work. but what are you actually passing? kennedy: and what have you done for me lately? no one can answer that. guess what?
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of the united states. his press secretary claimed was the largest crowd to ever witness an inauguration and for once nobody could argue. we begin in winston salem, north carolina where the stock car drivers were flying on saturday night. >> oh, my god. kennedy: i don't think this is what the crew chief meant when he told the driver to pass 'em high. luckily not one person in this video was hurt which was amazing. things could have been far worse. over a million people have seen the video of the flying car, making this the second biggest disaster of the weekend, right after the white house correspondents dinner.
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topic number two. the annual big wave award were held in hunting on beach, california it's a chance for surfers to get together and do what they do best, smoke weed and exaggerate about surfing. but a brazilian wouldn't award for surfing the biggest wave paul times. look at that monster. that is an 80-foot beast in portugal last november. it was just certified as the biggest wave ever ridden. i don't know what he was saying. the you arer will be honored in the guinness book of world record. if you have never read the guinness back it's like james comey's book, it's full of big
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stories, but the one in the guinness book are actually true. topic number three. bob dillon has plenty of record of his own. now he may have a way for you to understand the lyrics. half bees door whiskey is perfect. it goes on sale in mid-may. all he asks is that you consume sit responsibly, especially if you are driving a car. okay. it's all right, ma. topic number four. let's head down to texas where a homeowner got a visit from one
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of those exotic male dancers. first it was magic mike. now there is tragic male guy. this video was shot on the homeowner's doorbell cam. the video of the mailman's fancy footwork has been seen for 1 million viewers. topic number five. it is mugshot monday. this week's winner doesn't have a mugshot. he apparently he couldn't get a car because he is band from iesh. a canadian man robbed a tim horton's and fled on a halifax ferry. they radioed the captain and he turned it around. the suspect was easy to find
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after spending time in a tim horton's. he was the only one on the boat who smelled like knock-off donuts and sadness. the boating bandit was arrested friday night, but he returned to work at the post office this morning. we'll be right back. it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management.
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