they will be detained and -- charles: that was catch-and-release. >> no more. charles: no more. parents will pay a heavy price. >> yes, they are. charles: and children. this is huge. this is really huge. neil cavuto. take it away, sir. neil: thank you very much, we're follow following a couple more developments. three-year highs on iran, no matter what happens with the iran deal or nix this one and or start from scratch, this will lead to higher energy prices. that is helping components within the dow. certainly helping the s&p 500. normally the drill, is when that happens it is a drag on stocks. not a drag today. i want to stress that. a lot could be markets buoyed by better than expected news. we're following a couple other developments here. this mueller probe and where it is going. charlie gasparino has some ideas. along with charlie along with noelle nikpour, last but not least, market watcher extraordinaire mike murphy. what are you hearing on the

mueller probe? >> we're hearing sources close to the mueller probe, mueller is wrapping it up. that confirms some of the reports. he is wrapping it up with witness testimony. among the last testimony, take trump out of it, because that could tied up in supreme court land or never happen or maybe will happen soon, roger stone, former political advisor. we spoke with roger over the weekend. he retained counsel. he has not been called yet. from what our sources close to the probe is saying he is likely to be among the last of the mohicans, the last of witnesses before mueller, at least wraps up the witness said? neil: no one else's office or home will be ransacked? >> never know what they find. the office was ransacked by the fbi on orders from the u.s. attorney for the so you were district on referral from mueller. neil: who is telling you that you get a sense? >> the lawyers representing others, that know about what is

going on in the mueller probe, understand, are speaking with mueller people saying witness side is basically wrapping up and it is stone who is the last of the mohicans there, among the last. we should point out, why do they want to talk to roger stone? what witnesses have been asked about stone, former political advisor, i have to admit i know religion ear long time, i consider him a friend, decent guy, maybe that puts me on the outs here. neil: believe me, your friendships have nothing -- >> that is not least of my worries. let me make my point here. we can delve into that. roger has said in the past, he has talked about wikileaks and in a way that, people assume that he was helping julian assange and maybe goosifer hack into emails.

roger told me no. there is very little evidence of that. there is little evidence connected to anybody basically a witness. a lot of people say rick gates. they're investigating whether his contacts with rick gates. roger tells me they met once. listen, roger talks a good game, i can tell you that. he is a political dirt digger. you know, he is a tough guy. i never known him to do anything stupid. neil: what do you make of wrapping up or could be perceived wrapping up? what do you think? >> i would like to ask all you guys, why are all these people on on going investigation going out on television -- >> a lot of them don't care. >> doesn't care? >> roger stone, you're talking about a guy -- >> don't you think this will lead to something else. this has nothing to do with stormy daniels. >> unfortunately played out in the media. the other -- >> roger has a book to sell. >> every one has a book to sell.

>> this is not about collusion. this thing started out with collusion. they're gunning for trump. neil: just to follow, i want to follow, if you knew that this was going to be wrapped up sooner rather than late every and depends how it is wrapped up to charlie's point, wouldn't markets welcome that uncertainty out of the way? >> absolutely. i think earnings season came in as strong as we had wanted it or as strong as people anticipated. we have 18% growth. this is dark cloud over the market, over the economy, over the country. regardless which side you're on a major investigation or impeachment of the president, if it goes a step further is negative for the markets. neil: you know what i love about your colleagues. they're not red or blue. i don't exaggerate when i say they're about green and keeping the green flowing. they were against seeing bill clinton kicked out. the economy was thriving. the last thing they wanted was disrupted. >> absolutely. maybe a little credit goes to

our mayor rudy giuliani, a week or two ago said this will be wrapped up in a few weeks. >> i think he was a little too pollyannish. i think he said two weeks. the two weeks was over on friday. i could be wrong. >> i don't think the markets know what to wish for or what to fear. >> real issue how long will it take for trump to give or not give his testimony. that is one issue. neil: you're taking it would be a mistake if he didn't. >> i think it would be mistake to not do it. >> i think woe be a fool. that is why you have the impeachment lawyer there. neil: would be mistake if he didn't? >> i think it would be a mistake if he did. nothing he has to gain. i don't believe he has to testify. >> here with what they have to do, what rudy is trying to do, rudy giuliani, former mayor and senior counselor. when mueller's people are taking witness testimony it divides in half, notion of obstruction through the questioning, questions and collusion. so he is asking witnesses, not just all obstruction.

he is is asking both sides. anybody knows if you know the prosecution of martha stewart which i did a lot of reporting on back in the day when james comey was the brought who brought the case against him. neil: that's right. >> she volunteered to go see the securities & exchange commission over suspicious trade. she went in there, that, and she concocted a story which the jury believed was a lie. she obstructed justice. if she didn't do that, let's point out, why did she do that? she was ceo of publicly-traded company, if she didn't do that they would roast her for it. it is an optics problem. you lose either way. that is the problem. neil: you have more to lose talking than not. >> politically. >> trump is fine sitting down with mueller. rudy and jay say don't do it. neil: to charlie's point that is zero-sum game. >> that is why the law is in place the sitting president could take the fifth and wouldn't have to testify. neil: fine legal minds are disagreeing with that precedent. if subpoenaed he has to.

i don't know if that is true, whether you like the president or not, that is slippery path. he could talk himself right into perjury intentionally or unintentionallily. >> that is why they hired rudy. they have to do a public relations blitz. neil: why do they have to talk about it. >> tell us, charlie. >> this is what people close to rudy are telling me. they believe the only case they have. the strongest case, i'm not saying, you can't make something out of don, jr. meeting with the russian person, right? you remember the thing at trump tower. it seems picayune. they believe the strongest thing he has is the cover-up, rather than the crime. you know, that said, that said, if you don't answer the questions from a political standpoint, can you imagine if he took the fifth and he is running for president again? >> i don't think it is about that. >> he doesn't have to take the fifth. he doesn't have to take the questions period. i understand what you're saying. let me ask you, given markets movements, that they have moved past this thinking that it is

not going to hit the president. it might hit some people around him but won't hit the president. if that were the case, then, is it just green light for the market to continue. what do you think? >> i think once that gets out of the way, take the mueller probe off the take, i think market has a lot of catching up to do. we're basically flat for the year after strong economic numbers. after a tax cut. neil: you don't think there are comeuppance with this? year not withstanding it has been a hell of a run. >> last year was great run-up. this year was. we had a correction if you will. i think mueller probe is the biggest thing weighing on markets right now. >> no. >> the underlying economy support as higher market. >> no way. >> mueller pressures add to the volatility. i think we can all say that the biggest thing over the markets -- >> trade. >> trade. here is the other thing. i spent a lot -- neil: you don't think this --

all bets are off? >> if corporate earnings are doing great and we don't get in a trade war. >> what is trade war though? >> what is worst-case scenario? this is continuation of our policies. >> why do people buy stocks? they buy stocks based on earnings performance. if earnings -- here is what we have right now -- neil: we live in an environment where it is not just earnings. >> if you can prove that the impeachment of a president will hurt corporate earnings, you can make some case out of that -- neil: the noise of that. uncertainty -- but a year or more of craziness. >> but if the economy keeps doing well, i think problem is -- >> volatility is good? >> tax cuts are priced into the markets right now. now put up or shut up time. either the economy has to get a lot better and earnings go up. >> unemployment. >> you have to get gdp better? >> what about inflation? neil: in west virginia, very interesting, outside candidate, convicted felon is threatening to run as an independent.

that all but assures joe manchin keeps that a democratic seat. >> yes. neil: do you think there is a scenario where the senate goes. >> no, i don't. i think that we will keep it by the hair of our chin-chin but. neil: when you say we, a lot of republicans. >> republicans sorry. you know what i do think is, if this happens, this blue wave, which is actually an accident, we are helping roll that blue wave. alabama started a blue wave. with conor lamb and that mess in pennsylvania, another roll of the blue wave. this is mishap of republican bad of acting candidates. >> blue waves, i think that will hurt the markets. >> but the the answer to your question that is right. neil: have you factored in a blue wave in the house? that the democrats take the house? >> no, i think it is more uncertainty. economy can support higher

market regardless who takes the house. neil: you have to admit the dynamics would be heck of a lot difference? >> not as of if so much is happening now to be honest. neil: you would? >> if democrat has blue wave, house and senate, takes off another crack at tax reform, regulatory reform. they could muck up things and investigations. try to get a deal done. you could have ceo's called before congress. you could have a war on corporate america. >> there is another round of these tax cuts coming. remember that? there is round two. we're expecting that. >> does congress need to approve that? neil: another -- >> everyone's wrong then. neil: thank you very much. >> i plead the fifth. neil: reason enough for us to be all over the three key primary battles going on tomorrow night. we're live beginning 8:00 p.m. as long as it takes. this is kickoff in the ongoing process what noelle was touching

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blankenship, present polls, they could change, give him a shot. there is threat he might run as third party candidate. can he? >> if he does, don blankenship can not stop breaking the law. there is a spoiler law in west virginia says you lose a primary you can not be an independent in the general. neil: but he can be a write-in. a lot of people would rabidly write him in right? >> they may but the problem with him is, it would make him a liar because he says he is part of the political party as a coalition. i'm a part of this coalition. the coalition of the president. that is a sore loser move on his part. i think it could drive away a lot of voters, unaffiliated independent voters who really value integrity. west virginia 19% of that.

neil: a move like that seals it for manchin. that could change, market dynamics debate, later on, this is one they thought they had a good shot, maybe still do of picking up, that is republicans. it is one of those mitch mcconnell targeted as a possible pickup state. then what? >> yeah i think as soon as don blankenship launch as third party bid or secures primary victory tomorrow, this moves to toss-up, to likely victory for senator manchin. that is not good for republicans who already have a slim senate majority as is. there is a lot of concerns about the internal polling that we're seeing with don blankenship slightly ahead of patrick morrissey and evan jenkins. i'm not sure the gusto is behind him. we might see him ahead in polls. whether or not west virginia voters turn out to write his name in and cast their ballots for him is something that remains to be seen. obviously republicans will be

making every effort in the next 24 hours to insure that he does not notch a victory over morrissey. neil: lindsay, is it your sense this state, you know, such a heavy, you know, donald trump state, i mean, had his biggest margin wracked up here than anywhere else in the country it, would be conceivably hard for manchin to win regardless? >> right. we also have to remember how angry west virginias are. used to be blue. now undoubtedly as red as red can get state. neil: so if it is red as it can get, i understand that, why does manchin poll surprisingly well, well within the margin of error and most polls leading? >> i think it is strong enclave of last bastion of support to keep one big-name democrat they have in power in the state. however it doesn't look like, according to the numbers of how much trump won about, his approval ratings i think are 87% right now according to

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>> the president has a legitimate point. he set a challenge for the world. we think what you can do is be tougher on iran, address the concerns of the president, and not throw the baby out with the bath water, not junk a deal. as i say, plan b does not seem to me to be particularly well-developed at this stage. neil: all right. that is british version of fix it, don't nix it. boris johnson, had a chance to

meet with mr. pompeo, look, there are a lot of problems with the iran deal and you go ahead and rip it up, we're starting from scratch and all of sudden there are a whole lot more problems than you can ever envision here. a new york state assemblyman says nonsense. he opposed the deal from the very beginning, and still opposes it right now. assemblyman, good to have you back. >> a pleasure. neil: there is boris johnson is, a host of others, emannuel macron, angela merkel of germany, they're all saying no, no, we worked very hard from this, to start from scratch you would be entertaining possibilities you can't imagine. what do you think of that? >> well, i guarranty you, neil, the world will go on the day after the president chucks this deal. the bottom line is, that the president of the united states has challenged the entire world. you know, so many of the people who say you know, we're for the deal continuing, at the same time they admit that there are

so many holes, there are so many problems with the deal. and the president by challenging the entire world, having the guts to do that, to stand up to a deal that unquestionably, if it continues the way it is, we'll all be able to say we still got the deal. but at the end of the line, the iranians will have atomic weapons. there is no question about it. what about all the other things going on? you can't separate them. the fact that iran is involved all over the world in destablizing the middle east. they're creating havoc all over the world. and -- neil: what would change of that? a lot of people agree with what you outlined as a fine premise, dove. the flip side is, that usually, i think what incentivizes someone returns to the table.

including all pallets of money coming in as cash. so they have got it. it is in their hot little hand as we speak. >> neil it, was tragedy that deal happened the way it happened we gave to iran, they gave me way too much money and let me get away with murder, i have the money in my hot little hands i will not renegotiate another deal for less money i'm not going to do it, because i have the money in my hands. >> pushing the iran into the wall, possibility of united states getting out of the deal, we don't know what happens the days after. i think that the potential is there for creating something better. look, you know, the country that is most opposed to this deal are the people of israel, the state of israel. israel is the country that would

want a good deal more than any other country in the world because israel is the only nation that the iranian leadership is not embarrassed to tell the entire world, we want to destroy you. we want at the erase you from the face of the earth. if this was a decent deal, the first country that would say, let's continue this, this is a good thing, let's not interfere with this, would be the people of israel. they're the ones on the front line. we have a terrible deal. a dangerous deal. maybe we can breathe today and tomorrow. what happens the day after? what happens -- neil: you're in the camp a lot of european leaders and others say, fix, don't nix, don't tear up the whole thing. focus on what is wrong, you're saying that is not the route to go? >> neil. neil: i'm not impressed with european countries so interested in continuing their financial dealings with iran. a lot of people are making a lot

of money. maybe they're being influenced by that just a little bit. the bottom line we're talking about survival. we're talking about a country that makes a deal and is developing ballistic missiles that not only can reach all of europe. of course israel, but even the united states of america. you know, we can smile today and say, okay, we've got a deal but it is a deal that will take us, excuse me, straight to hell because it will result, i mean we're trusting the iranians? i mean that's crazy. that's insane. we can do better, and you know what? i want to trust the president on this one. look what is happening with korea. i want to truth him on the iran thing that we can do better if we can do better, you know, let's get rid of this. let's ditch this. we'll come up with something better. neil: we shall see. very good seeing you again. doubts over this, oil prices are over $70 a barrel. translating to higher prices

from the gas pump, renewed friction in the middle east could be in the offset here. who knows. these markets just trade on a whim. right now the whim is one of fear. meantime you can tell a lot about the course of the whole mueller investigations by the questions that leak out. or at least the questions he already had. one guy who has been subjected to a whole bunch of them, has just revealed some interesting developments. the whole collusion thing, it is way beyond that. way, way beyond that. after this.

♪ neil: one of my favorite guests coming up here, nearly a year since the bob mueller appointed to this russia investigation. former trump aide michael caputo was telling me they still have no collusion evidence but they have a lot of other stuff. take a look. >> truth we gave them along the way there is no russian collusion, zero, zilch, nada,

nothing i saw, nothing i heard about and i can't believe anywhere that donald trump or even paul manafort would bring the russian, intelligence services into our campaign. neil: all right so. agents storming offices, either michael cohen or president's personal lawyer, his office at home, paul manafort's home about a year back and all what do you think of all of that? you didn't have to endure any of that but, those are pretty severe tactics to take to get stuff. >> it is. neil: where do you think they're going? >> when i first started, when this whole thing started i was kind of optimistic about bob mueller. i knew him as honest, and decent man. i still think he is honest and decent man. i'm optimistic about the investigation. i'm not so sanguine about it anymore. when i first heard about the armed raid on paul manafort's home and pulled his wife out of

bed at gun point, my optimism waned a little bit. when they raided the president's lawyer's office. we reached an inflection point. at that point in time i thought to my seven, this is it for us, it for all of us. nothing they won't do. who isn't in the investigation will be in the investigation. who isn't and night going to be indicted and who isn't in jail is going to be in jail. this shedded off the rails. raid on cohen's office and home i just decided i can't stand by and close my mouth anymore. that is why i told the senate to go to hell. >> michael, one thing to come up in this, you heard about a judge dealing with paul manafort case who said and chastised mueller's team for going what seemed to be far afield whatever the original intent of this investigation was on collusion, it seemed a lot of questions that were directed at you at the outset seemed to be in and around collusion issues,

in and around folks other than those named trump. am i right? >> correct and inside and outside the campaign. they still think they're on to something but i got to tell you, in my three hours in front of the mueller team, i think i shut down some of those avenues. i don't think they really have anything. at least nothing they asked me about. none of the people i know, one one -- none of the questions they asked me and answer i gave them led them down further on that primrose path. they have everything on this campaign. emails, everything, everybody they needed. anything adverse about the campaign. they know more right now about the campaign than any one person who worked there would ever know. and they don't have anything as far as i can tell because the questions didn't go that direction. neil: that is what i was going to ask you, sorry for jumping on you, michael. was it your sense they're going in a different area? seems to look at business

transactions, some going back years, it has veered down another path? maybe that didn't directly involve you and maybe they didn't ask you about any of that, it does seem wherever they're going seems originally they were going? >> no, doubt, neil. i can tell you rest absolutely they're not find anything the russia collusion. they knew every answer to every question, understanding what they were doing and trying to do to me i would not advise the president to go in front of this group at all. neil: you think that it would be at all rigged against him? >> oh, i think it is rigged against all of us. i think for some reason the way they go about this entire prosecution, this entire investigation seems to be rigged against us. maybe it is system. maybe it was rigged against bush and clinton and their special investigations. maybe the whole system is messed up but whatever history tells us

right now it is a rigged game. neil: all right. so that was from our saturday show, "cavuto live." don't submit yourselves to this craziness. don't take questions from bob mueller's team. whether it is two hours it would be a big, big mistake. i want to get answers from one of the best legal minds in the planet, the socrates of law. i'm in awe every time he is here. another guy saying the president, no doing. >> this interview you had of him was really terrific because it showed the anger, frustration, almost to a boiling point of a lot of people perceive when they are grilled by the government for something that they believe they didn't do, whether police in a pre-sent house or house or fbi investigators investigating a bank robbery or bob mueller

going after the president of the united states, it is deeply frustrating, because under the law they can lie to you, they can trick you, they can deceive you, they can defraud you, if you lie to them, you could be indicted to go to jail. it is almost a straitjacket-like existence. neil: all the more reason for president -- >> particularly this president who does not always use economy of words, who has a great sense of self-confidence. neil: i like the way you said that, economy of words. >> i was being diplomatic. i would suggest he not agrow to this. neil: is there a legal requirement to answer prosecutor's demand that you do? >> none. neil: okay. >> what mr. caputo was describing was not testimony before a grand jury. it was a voluntary q&a. that he and his lawyers agreed to with bob mueller, some prosecutors and some fbi agents, somebody else taking it all down. that's what rudy giuliani has been wrestling with mentally on television, whether or not the president should do it.

one point he said yes. another point he said no. the standard advice to a client, when you're a target, or when you're a subject, whichever it is, don't go. the purpose of that interrogation is not to help you, it is to help the interrogators. if he doesn't voluntarily go, if the president doesn't voluntary go, they can subpoena him to to before a grand jury. entirely different environment. no lawyer. one questioner, 23 people in the grand jury. everything being recorded. if he doesn't answer he can be held in contempt, or he could invoke his fifth amendment right not to incriminate himself. the president of the united states does that, it would be politically catastrophic but legally prophylactic. he won't give them anything out of his own mouth that would help him. neil: would the supreme court, if this were kicked up to them force that issue? >> yes. in my opinion they would force him to testify. every time the courts looked at presidents and subpoenas, they required some form of response. now when bill clinton was

subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury that was investigating him, the prosecutors and president clinton's lawyers agreed to a compromise. it was a deposition, q&a, recorded and then played to the grand jury t was played on television as well, which is something that president clinton also agreed to. he didn't come across very well. he wasn't the self-confident, in command bill clinton that we knew. he was dodging, bobbing, weaving, giving technical answers, trying to avoid the answers what sometimes happens. neil: you can get too clever by half? >> yes. yes. so how this ends i don't know but the president can be subpoenaed and in my view he can be compelled to testify and the case law is pretty clear. neil: as you predicted months ago, many months ago this would fear into areas we couldn't even imagine, it is pretty clear from my discussion with caputo it has. >> yes. neil: that is just a given. so i don't know where it's going. he seemed to get a sense that

for now anyone named trump didn't seem to be a target but business dealings, all of that stuff, some going back years were, i don't want to put word in his mouth, but definitely seemed to have taken on a direction that was not the original one. >> i think i know exactly what mr. caputo was speaking b of course i don't know what questions were put to him but one of the items mueller's team has subpoenaed deutsche bank records. deutsche bank records, that was the principle lender to donald trump in his growth years here in new york city. neil: a lot of it came through that entity. >> they have 20 years of loan documents. they want to start putting a loan document in front of him signed 20 years ago ask him where the money went? neil: that is not russian entity. that is not russian -- >> that is what justice scalia dissenting the opinion about these type of special counsels. it was different type of special counsels. there is no limit on them. they're not recognized under the

constitution. they want to indict people to justify their own existens. this is why they should be used very narrowly and. judge ellis in virginia last week where he said, you're just trying to squeeze manafort, ordered him to produce that authority. he will get a letter from rod rosenstein saying you can go into these other areas. could they have gone into michael cohen, decided to send it up here to federal prosecutors in new york. could they have sent the manafort case to federal prosecutors in virginia? yes. they decided to keep themselves. it doesn't matter who prosecutes manafort. he will be prosecuted one way or the other. neil: incredible. i can't explain this legal stuff to you again? >> i am hope i made it clear, unlike gasparino who made it muddy, thank you very, very much. meantime warren buffett admits he was late to the

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♪ neil: all right, the power of a gazillionaire, amazon and apple hitting all-time highs on comments warren buffett has been make. liz claman sitting down with warren buffett at the 3:00 p.m. hour. looking forward to that she joins us now from omaha. boy, when he talks, markets move, don't they? >> they really do and right now i just checked. berkshire hathaway's stock is up. it is almost $300,000 a share. he talked about apple. that stock is up. he mentioned wells fargo. even that embattled stock is now, a little bit. amazon is certainly hitting all-time highs. warren buffett has had men crushes throughout the years. he told me in the past he worships lou simpson, the man who really grew geico insurance. now beaker -- berkshire owns that stock and benjamin graham,

guided warren how he values a business. he told me jeff bezos he thinks is one of the smartest people out there. he regrets not having brought the stock. even as the e-commerce giant encroaches on warren warren bufs business iss warren buffett will not criticize jeff bezos. i asked him about that when you have somebody you admire, jeff bezos killing it in the commerce world, pampered chef sells product on amazon but do you have any thoughts how to make sure that pampered chef doesn't get cannibalized from the original business model selling on amazon? >> just as my gross profit is his opportunity. almost everything we do is threatened by something else. but that is america. that is what capitalism is supposed to do. everybody is working to make product better and less costly. capitalism rewards the winner. >> he can say that, neil. but as you know, he owns lot of

retail businesses. the dairy queens, the sears, fruit of the room. he sells garanimals, ginsu knives. world book. he does not deny the brick-and-mortar world is under assault and attack. one of the things i want to ask him at 3:00 p.m. eastern on fox business on "countdown to the closing bell" is, do you foresee in a couple of years, maybe one or two of berkshire's retail businesses ceasing to exist? can't wait to hear what he says about that. if he is being honest, quite possibly if they don't handle these things properly, he has diamond and furniture companies, 63 companies total, many of them insurance. it has been really fascinating to hear how he looked at the world and ad knitted he certainly missed amazon jeff bezos train there. speaking of trains, boy we have

the party train here at 3:00 p.m. eastern. charlie monger, vice-chair of berkshire hathaway will join us. that is our 10th year in a row. fox business began this tradition. there is surprise guest. so-called year of the woman. the woman arguably been the most important woman in warren buffett's life for the past 65 years straight. then, neil, the succession plan. we caught up with one of the two lieutenants that buffett has given a lot of attention to, a lot of power too, greg able. and greg able and ajit jain. they don't seek the spot light. we caught up with greg able. they are dying to hear his voice. he is 55. a can madian. i think you would like him, he did not run the 5-k race. sounded the horn. neil: i love people like that. >> i know. neil: liz, funny, he and charlie monger talked up the fact you know, this market gyration

notwithstanding still looks good to us, talking in the aggregate here. do they subscribe to that? >> yeah. he never says the markets look this or that. he feels that his business is its own entity. he buys american or foreign businesses. first time in the gigantic scrum where we were surrounding him, he put two country names out there. i don't think he sees real opportunity in the u.s. to buy big businesses at moment. not stocks but big businesses. he named china and brazil. so i'm going to ask him about the administration's announcement that china is not a currency manipulator. also we'll talk about the nuclear the nuclear deal, whether the president decides to exit that deal. warren buffett own as company in israel. he is always mindful dangers israel faces. he thinks the israelis are

brilliant. he is big on the nuclear threat initiatives. of course bitcoin. charlie monger went crazy over bit coin. we'll talk to him about that too. neil: as italian-american i resent the fact he is not drawn to italian stocks for some reason. maybe get into that with him. find out what the deal is there. >> i will talk to him. neil: a chunk of the coliseum. liz claman, looking forward to a couple hours. she always breaking news on these things. fascinating chat with the most successful investor in human history. it is true. an amazing, amazing record. more after this. so no matter what you trade, or where you trade, you'll only pay $4.95. fidelity. open an account today. . . whoooo.

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neil: all right we are up 153 points on the dow. a lot of catalyst for this including issues that would benefit we don't go with trade war with chinese, for example. boeing, caterpillar mirror trade with china, the better they do, they are looking today. so no idea how that's going to end up and in the backdrop the mueller probe. experts say they get a sense that phonetic activity has been winding down. i've been hearing this for 6 months. i don't know your definition of winding down, takes a long time

to wind down. thank you, lady. blake berman at the white house because i'm telling you, blake, this is confusing a lot of folks, they were hoping to see imminent closure. i don't think they are seeing it right now. hope spring i ternal that they will. blake: remember first iteration or one to have iterations of the president's legal team, i believe the first team would be that this probe would be done by end of 2017. it is now may and there's no realtimeline as to when exactly this might wrap up so much that the big question now is whether or not the president will sit-down with bob mueller himself, you know, the back and forth between the president and his attorneys as to whroirpt -- whether or not that might happening. with all that happening, you have big news at the white house this week, neil, that is the president has to make a decision

on the iran nuclear deal, whether or not he will stay in or pull the u.s. out as he has talked about to close to 2 years, the decision starts or has to be wrapped up, rather, by saturday and speaking of the legal team, newest one of them, rudy giuliani made it appear that there's some sort of deal with the president and legal team to focus on issues. we made a deal this weekend, he stays focused on north korea, iran and, china, we stay focus on the case and we will bother him when we have to. however, the president today has sent out a bunch of tweets, nine of them earlier this morning, four of them on the mueller probe and the fbi, one of those tweets the president suggested that republicans need to keep their eye on this because of upcoming midterms. is the phoney witch hunt will go any longer which is going to

impact midterms which is what the democrats wanted. this was an excuse for the democrats because of what happened in november 2016, now he's saying keep your eye on 2018. by the way, the president said there's no on obstruction of justice, it's calling fighting back. in another tweet, the country has to get back to business, on the one hand you say the president, there's big issues out there, let's get back to business, we have a deal, you focus on the issues, we will handle the legal case and you have the president tweeting about legal case. neil: the whole other probe is a backdrop for pretty much everything here. you know, the old thought here. is it panning out. new york city councilman joe, national review contributor

deroy and deidra bolton, is the president complicating it? >> i think so. there's tons of good news. neil: absolutely. >> fundamentals, state budgets, they have surplices, midwest, minnesota, connecticut of all places and i think all of the good -- neil: they are crediting that or at least the administration from revenue on tax cuts. >> there's more people working, earning higher wages, helping out state budgets, when was the last time we heard anything positive about state budgets? >> there's so many other things that i feel should be the talking points of this administration and that was the biggest -- that's the administration's biggest accomplishments as far as the market and economy goes, in my mind, that's what you would want people talking about. neil: the president is violating by talking -- i can understand he's frustrated with the witch hunt, et cetera, et cetera, is it your sense that it is coming, this from a -- franetic

activity, that it's coming to some closure? >> i think so, i doubt it, i think it's a feature, that's the whole idea. you have a lot of people who are prodemocrat, prohillary, some people maxed out to hillary clinton. brand-new addition to the team he's another hillary clinton donor. this is antitrump probe. neil: whatever comes of it will not be friendly to him? >> keep us talking about this rather than 3.9% unemployment, economic growth, denuclearization of the korean peninsula and assist the democrats to getting back in, that's the exact purpose of the probe. neil: if he's right, they are playing him to like a fiddle, right? >> the focus on keeping the witch hunt going. as more people are starting to pick up on the fact that trump is saying, this is a witch hunt

and spun off the rails. people just aren't paying attention. every time you peel back the onion of the mueller probe, more bias, more antitrump agenda, and less about russia. you had michael cavuto, how much more clear that he was not questioned and investigated on russian collusion. neil: it came up again and again, anyone named trump which is interesting, but having said that, deidre, taking the big areal view of the market, i would assume they would want to have it behind this. >> of course. neil: doesn't it involve donald trump to prove that he was a target but whatever else in his administration. >> i'm with you, the quicker this becomes done and dusted and

put aside, the better for investors. 9-year run of bull markets, we have a global economy that's growing that's helping us out. to your point, we have 3.9%, we haven't seen it that low since the year 2000. neil: you weren't even born. [laughter] >> for every single investor one x factor off the table and we had amazing earnings. neil: you're right. i talked to a lot of people who -- i do see the tax cut, i do see things and they are not, i don't know if they are answering the pollsters but underneath there might be more to that than we let on maybe reason why a lot of republican pollsters and a lot of the president's team pound the taxes, pound the taxes, mitch mcconnell is saying pound the taxes, are they messaging something or are they on something? >> they are onto something, republicans need to do a better job in selling tax cuts an

benefits, 80% or 90% will see benefits. neil: states that are enjoying revenues. >> amazing bonuses from 50 plus companies providing better benefits and bonuses and so on and we keep coming back to nonsense and the same thing mueller has done about russia pollution, you had all the other folks convicted. mueller found nothing because there's no scandal here. neil: but to your point and what you picked up, not on collusion, it's veered to other areas, what's the fallout? >> right, if this ends up with nothing more than a nondisclosure agreement and michael cohen's fantasy scam or whatever the case may be, they'll be not just this going

away but -- neil: you know new york politics very well. we were talking about the challenge that governor cuomo faces here that surprisingly strong, left versus extreme left and i'm wondering if that's playing out nationally. >> yeah, i suppose it is. you look at the pa race with con -- connor lamb, he's the one that won. so i think you do have that playing out nationally to some degree but back to the point of trump, this is something that the american public has finally stopped paying attention to. if you look at some of the sub polling or questions on the polls, democrats are saying that the tax cuts are saying 10%, 15% more on polls. they are liking trump on foreign policy. that's what people are turning to point.

neil: everyone saying blue wave. >> the potential of the democrats to takeover is really a function of gop stands up and defends itself and goes on offense, i should say or whether to think, oh, my god, we are going to lose and let's crawl under the desk in fetal position, they have a positive message to sell, well, we will lose so let's start -- neil: everyone is saying that the benefit isn't there, we will not go out and see republicans voting. i don't know. the vibes don't match some other vibes. >> i think the data coming in from the state budget, to me that's an objective piece of data, right, that's not really something that's an opinion. neil: does the voter sees that and appreciate that? >> minnesota, 330 million, connecticut is over a billion, utah is over 500 million. those are real numbers. >> in new york the governor tried to hide it, a billion dollars of new revenue raising

schemes otherwise known as taxes and they found $750 million in income tax and suddenly no need for new taxes. neil: so you're a friend who can tell him just be blunt with him, should he shut up about the mueller case and just focus? >> as much as i appreciate some of the james joyce tweeting, there are times that, you know, the delete button would be better than the send button. >> i think rudy gall -- giuliani was supposed to play some role but did a lot of press. neil: primaries in west virginia, indiana, we want you to work tomorrow night and he said they are going to be follow-up nights like this one so i didn't build that in my expectations but i'm so glad i have because we are doing this and other financial networks

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neil: you know, if you've seen the areals, it's in hawaii, out of control, earthquake fires, you name it, william has the latest, william. >> well, neil, people come to the big island for the volcanos including kilauea which is the youngers of most active value canoes. right now putting fireworks display unfortunate at the expense of 5,000 people who were forced to evacuate after volcano , eruptions shot lava 300 feet in the air and two earthquakes that was on friday. so we got into this neighborhood yesterday which has been literally rocked by these

eruptions, ten of them so far and you can literally see homes being swallowed up by the lava flow, 700 homes in the alini states, they were built on top of the rift zone, down slope 20 miles from the cone or summit of kilauea which is sending millions of tons of magma through series of underground networks of pipes, if you will, and venting or punching out through the planet's crust literally at this subdivision, 26 homes so far destroyed. >> it was roaring sky high. it was incredible. it was fuming, it was roaring, it was thundering, rocks were flying out of the ground and it only took probably 6:00 o'clock in the morning to 9:00 o'clock in the morning to feel that -- fill the whole area with lava, 3 to 4 hours only. >> so police allowed evacuees in

yesterday temporarily to pick up medications, their pets, appliances, you pretty much saw everything, the eruptions also released very high levels of sul if you -- sulfur dioxide which is a toxic gas and making the area inhabitable for a foreseeable future. some residents, we learned, basically lost everything. >> i have 2 acres that are down here on kapono and they were covered this morning, so no structure and we have each other and we are safe. >> i see cracks all over the place that weren't there two days ago. it looks like the whole place will collapse in a couple of days, it really does. >> the whole house is on fire. >> it's gone. >> gone. >> i'm so sorry. >> thank you. it's okay. start over, one --

>> the question, neil, that everyone is asking, of course, when will it end, only mother nature knows the answer to that. in 1955 a similar e cupción from kilauea it lasted 3 months and covered 4,000 acres n the area where the lava is now, it literally wiped out whatever infrastructure, utility lines, roads there were, so this is going to be a long-term recovery, thank you. neil: we are focusing on development, oil over $70 a barrel, a lot has to do with iran and whether the president is pois today rip up the deal. a lot of european leaders, britain's secretary of state, cool it on that, certainly fix it, don't nix it. energy prices continue to climb, market watchers and mark and cristina, you know, cristina,

and with you, this sense that it doesn't end here, in other words, the president were to nix this thing, it would open up all these doom and gloom possibilities, that's a consensus, rarely are those such consensus estimates right but that's the fear, right? >> right, it's funny that you just mentioned that because there was a survey done by the wall street journal in december where they guessed what the price of oil would be and they predicted for the first quarter it would be $57, clearly like you stated, they were wrong and why is that, the price of oil is very, very sensitive right now to geopolitical risk, what we are seeing the uptick of a lot of investors pricing in the possibility of like you said president trump could rip up the deal, that's why we are seeing it climb higher, based on a few analysts that i spoke to earlier before going on air, they expect maximum $80 a barrel. that's what saudi arabia wants to see it but they don't see it going that much higher. neil: i know you try not to get

caught up in news developments and the like that could disrupt your general picture macro view of the world, but this could be one that potentially drags on onto that maco view, couldn't it? >> we can talk about the market in general, the price action that we have seen, bounce-backs in stocks, i think this oil is another side of optimism. we have seen this price rally straight up from those lows. let's remember we are at halfway point of the all-time highs where he had a few years ago to extreme lows. it's a strong trend. i look at that as positive sign because that will support energy stocks and that can be catalyst for overall stock market because that sector had been left behind. neil: it is an argument that if you believe whatever we started is now being picked up across the globe and there's a global recovery going on, energy stocks traditionally at this sector are good safe bet, are they for you

right now? >> well, they are neil, we have been bullish on the energy patch for more than half a year and it's really been on the premise of a couple things. one we expected oil prices to continue to strength, everybody is focused on the supply cuts by opec plus russia and forgetting about the fact that demand continues to grow globally, the second part of that is that energy stocks really have lagged the move in oil price and we expected a catch-up trade to occur and we are seeing that developing as we speak and why we thought energy stocks last year lagging sector would be the leaders if not the leader in 2018. neil: i'm wonder if the president surprises that and european allies pushing back on aluminum steel products, 30 days to work things out, that he might surprise people when it comes to iran, maybe keep the agreement in place, start trying to fix it as other european

leaders have urged him to do, what do you think? >> he did say although it was a horrible agreement that he was not against negotiating and i think that's a very important factor to consider for the price of oil what's going to happen in the future's market. what we are seeing too is the reflection of negotiations with china, he also is willing to negotiate, going forward, i do agree and to the other point that was made global growth, it's expected to demand in general for energy to double by 2040. >> exactly. >> when you're seeing a huge growth like that going forward, there's a lot of upside and a lot of the nayers saying local cars will take over, if every car on the planet was electric by 2040, oil consumption would still return to 2013 level which is still high. neil: endorsement of global recovery, allen?

>> definitely. it's important to note that this has all happened with 4-month highs in the dollar. that's significant that the oil prices continue to climb because it's sensitive to the dollar but spot to that headwind. that's something important to note because we have seen gold back up with the strength of dollar. people have been wrong like she said, they've been wrong on crude here for the last two years thinking that it would turn down with increase in the shell supply but that hasn't happened, it's a positive sign and i think it could be subordinate. neil: does that surprise you? >> not particularly, i mean, you are seeing household formation occurring quite rapidly. millennials are moving out of parents' basement. but eventually they are going to convert to savers and that will

be the underpinning for bull market going years to come. neil: what if they're not -- what if they're not technically living in the basement -- okay, i'm sorry. i want to thank you all very much. my very young producers telling me leave gramps, we will have more after this.

neil: all right. democrats are facing pressure to make the economy the focus, in fact, they want to make it the focus saying the tax cuts are a mistake and that will be message whether that works or not and how republicans are responding to that in four primary battleground states we will be covering it tomorrow beginning at 8:00 p.m. on fox business as long as it takes. this is the first really formal kickoff to this process. there will be other ones that will come up ahead of november but we will be on top of it every step of the way. remember when fox business started, folks, we were there early on, i mean, just months after starting following the

then 2008 presidential race, every step of the way, every primary caucus, et cetera, all the campaigns and that's when we had like 17 people getti us in the nation. but we stuck with it and now look at us. i don't know what that point of finger means. now look at us. anyway, one of my favorite guests joining us on the show, ck restaurant ceo andy puzder, the trump bloom and the last plot to stop it. i can extend it, andy, some on the right that are concerned that the administration and its tit for tat with the chinese is not capitalism and not right, you say? >> first of all, i want to point out that i was one to have first two or three guests on your fox business show. neil: you certainly were. >> i had to drive la from santa barbara to do it. neil: okay, but you were driving

in the backseat and pointing the directions. >> i wish. neil: thank you for that, you look at this now and the back and forth and the controversy over the president and now many on his own party get nervous when they hear trade wars. >> let's look at the trade issue, there's a difference between using tariffs as a tool to try to get better trade deals than to use tariffs as a mean to protect industries that are going to fail in your country. what this president is doing, he's not trying to set up a trade war, he's trying to improve trade agreements with other countries an really china, europe, why would they come to the table given the relationship over the last 30 years if he didn't take a strong position. you always do that in negotiation, you take your strongest position right out of the box. neil: you're mr. free capitalist, whatever his intentions, he's brought to everyone's attention how rigged the system with be was he could be sending down a very different path, right? >> unfair trade isn't necessarily free trade.

we shouldn't associate bad trade deals from walk get away from free trade. neil: were you surprised that the economic team in china went home empty handed? >> not at all. neil: a little bit? >> we sent the a team. neil: they should have sent you. >> i wish. neil: the a team didn't do nothing. >> both sides are strong -- neil: the chinese dug in their position. >> i didn't think -- i thought -- i was surprised we so quickly negotiated a deal with south korea. i think that obviously is an influence by north korea. you never -- even if a business negotiation that was like $100 billion, much smaller than this deal, you would never get a deal in the first meeting. i think that was an unreasonable expectation. neil: all right, now, i respect your business mind, so i'm going to give you the benefit on the doubt on a lot of the things you

say in the fine book, one of them is the notion that capitalism -- we are letting native juices flow and all of a sudden and that's great, but is the president really a capitalist and, you you know, because many times in his business, he certainly exercised the bankruptcy and as president he has torn up a lot of trade agreements but a lot of free capitalists are saying, are you for trade, against trade, are you for untethered businesses, you send us mix signals? >> we had a president for 8 years implemented left-wing, progressive, socialist programs that were discouraging to business, we now have a president who is cutting taxes, reducing regulation and focusing on american energy and we have hit optimisms have hit high

ever, manufacturing 93%, the reason for that is because we are talking about free -- i'm not saying he's a perfect capitalist, he will go out and write the wealth of nations or something but he is taking the country -- neil: cutting regulations which you could make an argument that integral. >> huge. bigger than cutting taxes. neil: i agree, and the numbers bear you out on that. now, along comes marco rubio to criticize the tax cut that hasn't benefited for much for individuals, what did you think of that? >> i don't think marco is looking at it in-depth as he looks at this. neil: he was a fan of the credits. >> it sounds like what the democrats or progressives argue. when they talk about having an economic policy, the economic policy is we want people to pay more taxes so we can give you

more things. neil: yeah. >> this is a give you more things. what happens with the tax cuts, the share repurchases at a minimum somebody is paying 23.3 tax and 25% of the equities in the country owned by pension funds and you have people invest in ira's and other forms of retirement. it's a huge percentage. neil: half of the american people? >> half to have benefit people benefit. neil: states are getting unexpected revenue surplus. >> additional benefits. neil: are you surprised republicans aren't doing better polling wise and that could change and you were way ahead of the curve and saying i don't buy these polls that there's a blue wave coming? >> look, you can be a blue wave coming. i'm confident that despite what they are being told by the media and despite they may be telling to pollsters, the american people know they are better off. you can only hear so many stormy

daniels stories before you say enough is enough. neil: does the president hurt himself on the issues and by talking about so much about stormy daniels and saying no payments were made from this white house or this -- trump period to the lawyer who paid, when in fact, there were? >> i think there are times when he'd be better not saying certain things, but i think his ability to communicate with the american people at 3:00 o'clock in the morning if he wants to, gives him such an edge over prior -- neil: negates all the other stuff he's doing, right? >> the majority of his tweets do get to the heart -- he has a sense for getting -- neil: not today, they are almost all on mueller and witch hunt which might be reflective of his frustration. >> reflexes frustration and the bloom coming off the rose on this investigation. i'm a supporter of mueller, i think he will do a good job. neil: you don't think he should fire the guy? >> not at all. you hear what the federal judge says and what happened to mike

flynn, you start to wonder and you see who is on the staff -- neil: it is a meat grinder for the white house itself. you took yourself out of the running for labor secretary, gina haspel, i do want to do this, i don't want to drag you through the mud, whatever you think of her, it's a tough process. >> dr. admiral jackson is perfect example, what a decent guy. tester destroys him. neil: but a lot of people look at that meat grinder -- >> well, we need to not do that. people need to serve. neil: if asked, would you try again? >> if the president would ask you to serve, you serve. i would not run for office. i'm not -- i think that's a lot of fundraising and -- neil: you're rich, you can

finance your own campaign, sold a lot of burgers. >> you are exaggerating the extent of my success. neil: i'm not exaggerating the success and it's a very honest step back for all of this portrayal on something that's going on beneath the surface and sometimes gets lost in tweets and nasty jibes on the left and right but capitalism has a chance and unfettered, sometimes you can do a lot of good if you give it that chance, we will have more. >> you read the book. neil: i did read the book, it inspires me, although there's no reference to me. [laughter] neil: maybe in the next book. we will have more after this.

neil: all right, we are supposed to find out the details as to where and when on this north korea -- terra, we are supposed to get word on release of

american hostages, let's go first to the location, the president apparently preferred the militarized done, is that the best location in your eyes or what? >> i don't think it is. it looks like it may in fact, be leaning towards singapore, there's mixed reporting on where it could be. president trump apparently expressed a preference for potentially holding it in dmz, everybody on board thought it would be a third-party location. i think the location will be more for the optics of it, what really matters is the strategy at play here. neil: north koreanss maybe sort of, you know, grabbing the tail of the best here by talking about joint military exercises, i think, with the south koreans and the timing of that bothered them. i don't think it gets in the way of their meeting, what do you think of all this theater around

the eventual meeting? >> i think what you're seeing is a lot of theater on both sides, you are going to see this probably until the meeting occurs, you will see gestures, hopefully we will see the prisoners being released. again, that's not confirmed yet but that would be good faith by the north koreans. each side trying to get leverage going into the talks. again, i want to emphasize, the talks don't actually occur until the talks actually occur. we are waiting to hear location and date but as president trump said repeatedly if he doesn't think they'll be positiver -- positive outcome of the united states, he could leave the meeting, withdraw. neil: he wouldn't leave the floor of the meeting. >> we are dealing with two unpredictable sides of the equation here. we have on the one hand, you know, the north koreans who, you know, you want to be somewhat trusting going into diplomatic negotiations, you want to reach

a compromise but, you know, the same goes trust but verify. neil: good point. >> president obama's former secretary usually trust but verify but in the case of north koreans is distrust and verify, verify because they have a history of going bag on reneging on agreements they have made but that doesn't mean we shouldn't give diplomacy a chance and that doesn't mean that we should be looking for potential of resolution even though it's some sort of compromise. neil: we will see, very good seeing you, tara. >> thank you. neil: i know a lot of you want to know this, i have seen avengers infinity war and i am not pleased. i'm sorry, america, i'm not pleased. now, i will not give anything away, they'll be not be any spoiler alerts, apparently 2 or 3 people in the planet have not and we will explain what's wrong after this.

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balancing the universe. but this does put a smile on my face. neil: the lead evil character struck me, he has a big head m people say i have a big head but thinning to put debtor call -- vertical lines. long movie for me. i'm not going to give anything away. do not go in with a large soda, it's a long, long movie. [laughter] neil: it's longer still. the credits themselves were another 2 and a half hours, the national review entertainment reporter katrina, now, have you seen the movie? >> i would never do that to myself. neil: guys, did we know they had

not seen -- [laughter] neil: i'm kidding. what's the deal here? >> well, the deal is, i think, people have waited, of course, for 10 years to see all of the super heros come together in one film and obviously they ate it up, the numbers are incredible. i admittedly i'm not a super hero movie fan but i think this is one of those things that you went and saw with your sons, i think it crosses generations and kids and participants can go see it together, some people may be seeing for nostalgic reasons and the kids because they are excited about it and that's something that is driving people to the theater. neil: what about you? >> i think i have never seen a good super hero movie, i think they are all a waste of time and money because spoiler alert at tend, the good guys win. there are people who are bad with powers and people who are bad with powers and they fight each other and the good guys win, it's a waste of time and a waste of money to ever see one of the movies.

neil: you have to be careful. you didn't see it. but, see, that's the thing. i don't know if this is true, but that excuse overwhelming male. >> of course. neil: seinfeld the comedian says women don't realize -- these are options that we look to these characters in real life, i guess. [laughter] neil nigh i just think there's a lot going on, too much going on. >> there were two many characters and i know the directors were saying that they actually held back on introducing some of additional characters because they thought there were too many. i think you're not far off but i think this is -- everyone wants to see how the characters interact. neil: they're beating each other up. the idea that this is some, you know, dialogue, how they get

along and how they dell with all of the their problems, you're assigning so too much. i take nothing away. i never know what that means. cgi. >> i can't imagine spending the amount of time to spend of nuances of fake people. neil: how do you know they are fake? [laughter] neil: why am i defending this? in other words, this is making money hand over fist, they teased that, the individual characters. >> disney that is promised that it has more than enough characters and story lines to keep producing these films for the next 20 years or more. neil: a super character that reads or he's a thinker,

everyone beats people up, i mean -- >> it's the same thing. they say they have plenty of story lines, they have one story line, one story line over and over on, the battles are different, they are so much the same that it's boring, i don't understand how anyone can sit through hours and hours. neil: variations and different flavors. han solo, ralph, is that one that's coming out? looks like a young guy in that one. the whole thing -- >> i am a star wars fans. neil: you are? i remember seeing the first one with my dad when it came out on the theater and i think -- neil: yoda, i did, that's it. >> the only movie that's worth anyone's time is happy gilmore. neil: you have a lot of anger issues.

i don't want to give stuff away but obviously a sequel is coming, they will make money handover fist. these numbers i don't think include china yet. >> no, that opens up on friday. neil: the whole world love this stuff? >> absolutely. neil what's your problem? >> i'm not a guy. neil: i guess we should have prebooked a guy who liked the movie, ralph, you liked the movie? all right, bottom line, it's going to be a big kit, formula that works and bottom line they are not going to change it. >> absolutely not. they are really not going to change it, all the movies continue to be the same. neil: and you don't like that? >> no, too boring. neil: i just put that out there because we have people coming saying it's the greatest -- it's popcorn entertainment, i'm just telling you, i'm just telling you, it's getting old, it's getting a little cliché, the original king kong back in the 30's, that was a movie.

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♪ neil: don't forget we'll have live coverage of preview of coming attractions in ohio, indiana, west virginia, north carolina. primaries could set the stage at least how the battle royale will go with surviving democrats and republicans. markets will have, whether there will be a blue wave at all.

we'll probably get some hints of it tomorrow night. which is why we are live. i will be there along with my colleagues, trish regan a host of others we take it through step by t anything can happen, probably will, 8:00 p.m. tomorrow night. now to trish. trish: looking forward to it, thank you, neil. president trump blasting robert mueller's russia probe saying it is nothing but a witch-hunt. well the president, has, well, he has consensus here. one federal judge accusing mueller of seeking unfettered power to ultimately take doesn't president. wow. markets, taking it all in stride. up 175 points, 24,437 is the level. i'm trish regan. welcome, every one, to "the intelligence report." ♪