thinkers and doers to even speak. we have black lives matter and antifa meet us and we can't even speak. lou: join us here tomorrow. judicial watch tom fitton. good night from new york. kennedy: a huge diplomatic win for the trump administration. those are the three american hostages held in north korea. they landed in alaska and they just took off for joint base andrews. we are told they are all safely inside. president trump is going to meet them very early in the morning. he'll be on the runway in about 8 hours to welcome them home. but will the left give him any credit for this victory?

mike pompeo is in pyongyang to negotiate their release. we are told they are healthy after doing time in a work camp. the "new york times" was asking why he was awol while he was in the sky for the rescue mission. and chuck schumer warned against using hostages as bargaining chips. this afternoon the president echoed that. >> this is something nobody thought was going to happen for years or more. and i really believe it's going to be a great thing for north korea, and south korea and japan. kennedy: the president went on to say he'll announce the location of the nuclear talks in three days. but our own maria bartiromo

interviewed leon panetta who said we may be walk into a trap. >> i started from the place where i can't trust north korea. they are even gained in accommodation. we have gone through period of provocation and periods of accommodation. even if we try to work with them when there are periods of accommodation. but ultimately we found out we couldn't trust them. kennedy: can we trust kim jong-un. little rocket man. even after the prisoner release? former cia military analyst and spokesperson for the anti-terror project. what do you make of the development the hostages being released from north korea. >> it's a huge victory to get

three americans being detained home. having said that doesn't mean we have a victory in the terms of negotiation. it shows some goodwill leading up to the talk. that's what you want from both side. you want both side to go to the table with a genuine willingness to reap an agreement. but north koreans have proven to be untrustworthy before and renege on what they are supposed to be doing. they might expect something in rush that we are not willing to give. so it remains to be seen how this impacts the summit itself. kennedy: senator schumer is warning not to use these hostages as bargaining chips. so far we haven't heard of concessions given for their release. this is all happening before the

two leaders meet. supposedly in singapore. so, you know, schumer says this gives countries, especially rogue regimes, i season toughs to take american hostages. what do you think about that? >> i don't agree with that. this move in and of itself is a positive development. the north koreans will use this for p.r. purposes and going into the talks saying we did this, what is the u.s. doing in return. we haven't seen them give concessions. they are skilled and cunning when it comes to propaganda for their own population. i'm not saying that's what happens here, but we have to wait and see. we are not going to know that until both parties get to the table. we see the deal that may or may not be made again. president trump said if he

doesn't think a good deal will be made, he may walk out of the talks. so he'll get up and walk away. the key point is even if the north koreans agree to denuclearize, and i'm not sure they will by getting rid of all their ballistic missiles and nuclear materials and having open and intrusive inspections. but we have to trust that we know where all the material is and where all the sites are. kennedy: we know because of first-hand accounts and certainly thousands and thousands of pages of document from the nsa that the united states government has the ability to pretty much spy on anyone anywhere at any given time through a number of means. so we should absolutely know where their nuclear arsenal and capability are buried and

located. but what about giving them the ability to have nuclear energy and opening up those labor camps so some of the other hostages and political prisoners and those who have been sentenced to a lifetime -- a short lifetime of brutal labor can be freed. >> i would love to agree with you about the first part of your statement. but north korea is known to be one of the most of difficult cases in terms of intelligence. and while we might have good insight into the nuclear materials and their missiles were there are competing estimates out there in terms of numbers. there are competing estimates about our knowledge of where everything is located. and only one side need to be hitting for the deal to be violated or for them to be

cheating. i think the former secretary of energy under president obama saying normally you say trust but verify. but when you are talking about the north koreans you say don't trust anything but ever i ever . kennedy: tara, thank you so. we have breaking news. the israelis are reporting iranian forces in syria have fired two dozen rockets into israel. you better believe the israeli military will retaliate. we'll bring you any updates as soon as we get them.

this is linked to president trump keeping his campaign promise to pull out of the nuclear deal. former vice president dick cheney said our president did right by our allies. >> one of the reasons i disagreed with the original deal with the iranians. it looked like what the obama administration was doing was shifting their emphasis in the middle east from our traditional allies, egypt, saudi arabia, the emirates to the iranians. and the iranians ended up to be the big dog on the block because it appeared to be what president obama wanted. kennedy: the iranian president

rouhani said they will go back to enriching iranian if they can't reach a deal. let me bring in my highly enriched party panel. bre peyton along with robby soave, and kat timpf. welcome, everyone. so, let's dig into iran a little bit. people are worried there is no plan b for this deal and it will make the middle east less safe. you say this is better than anything that president obama put forward in his deal. >> now we don't have to pretend like we are living in an alternative reality. there has been secret location where they have been testing nuclear sites. this has been an ongoing

program. this is something they have been keeping on the back shelf. just being able to talk about things as they are is helpful. and it paves the way to enable the iranian people to choose for themselves who their leaders will be. do they want to continue with the status quo? this opens the door for them to get to choose. kennedy: a couple breaks up, the woman says you want to break up with me, i'll be four months pregnant next week. >> when the u.s. gives its word that this is what we are going to do but goes back on it when there is a new regime in power in our own country. that might send the wrong message to kim jong-un. they will do of what they want and they will go back to overthrowing this dictator and

that dictator. kennedy: if a deal can be pulled out of that easily, maybe that's part of the flaw. >> this is the flaw of president trump's approach, to do everything unilaterally by executive action and it's easily you be done if you do it that way. kennedy: that's the problem with u.s. foreign policy. it's the foreign policy whim of whatever is in power. there may be issues with north korea. but kim jong-un knows what he's dealing with because the president talked in certain terms about how he was going to deal with north korea on the campaign trail. the same with the iran deal. >> he just wanted to get out before having a plan b. i am someone who is a little nervous about that. it could make things more

difficult when we are negotiating with north korea. one of the things president trump said he didn't like about this deal is it expired. so he just expired it earlier? that doesn't make any sense to me without anything new in place. kennedy: one argument is let's fiction the deal and remodel it and shore up some of the issues we have. and it was basically like north korea if we said to them, we are going to craft a new deal. you have to close your labor camps for 15 years, then you can open them up again. >> just pulling out of the iran deal, even though he said he was going to do it goes back to the hawk i shallness. kennedy: even john bolton had -- >> i think he had a huge influence. kennedy: bolton's hand in our

foreign policy now. it has been theoretical since he has no longer been a u.n. ambassador. but now he's the national security advisor, and he has a different role and the president's ear. is that a good thing or bad thing? >> i think it's a good thing. pulling out of the rawb deal is something president trump has been talking about for years. kennedy: and john bolton. and he made a strong case. >> the addition of giuliani and the purging of other people who didn't have the same thought processes and bringing on other people who seemed to be more simpatico. i think it makes sense. i think we'll see the white house act in a more efficient manner. kennedy: you know what's interest being this. the president as far as foreign

policy has been all or the map. it has been hard to pin down his ideology on foreign policy. now it's looking like a traditional form. >> it's just that sort of his ideology is deals. he makes better deals than the other people. kennedy: i don't have faith in egg he does. especially when he's talking about the press, i think it's crazy. but with it comes to north korea, i see how that can work and anwork -- and pan out. and i hope it happens without a shot fired and not a civil yab killed. >> and get out of afghanistan. >> all the things he talked about on the campaign trail, i would root for him to do all those things.

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oligarch. >> it's inaccurate. kennedy: avenatti and multiple news outlets are alleging that cone was selling access to the president. it all sounds sketchy. but who is in more trouble. avenatti or cohen. let me ask former criminal defense attorney and legal analyst. there are a lot of accusations about michael cohen accepting payment from corporations, shady, legitimate and massive. is this legal? >> i hate to give that typical attorney answer. but it depends. essentially a lobbyist can accept money to sell access to someone who is an elected official. but the laws here require you

to. for a lot of reasons these companies allege they gave him payments, that's not within the wheel house of the shell company. so what was the reasonable asset, it was access to president trump. it's a global answer because there is a lot more questions that we have and answers we need before i can blanket say why it was illegal or not was not. kennedy: if this were president obama's personal attorney taking millions of dollars from russians and big drug companies. i think people would be having kittens. i think there is some explaining to be done. maybe the issue isn't cohen

selling access. maybe other people close to the president were doing the same thing knowing they sidestepped the technicalities it would be legal. >> also it remains to be seen what the president had knowledge of. is this the example of someone who had a close relationship with a person who is selling that asset or purporting to sell that asset. the at&t payments. what is going on with net neutrality and the merger. you could argue they didn't benefit at all which is partly why lobbying is a ga -- a gambl. >> the final decision is not coming down until mid-june on the at&t merger. >> that's true. but it's a gamble in terms of those benefits. we need more information before we can attach ourselves to

conclusive statements about what went down. but there are a lot of questions we have and there is a platt of explaining that needs to be done. kennedy: the treasury department inspector general is look into how michael avenatti accessed this banking information from michael cohen's company. they say it's questionable how he difficult accept night it and how he got it. is he in trouble? >> with the office of inspector general, it means that they are look internally. the issue would be who leaked that document to him. we see him fancy himself as the public town drier. so it's -- the town crier. kennedy: i'm so sick of that

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>> please answer the question. >> i think i answered the question. >> no, you have goth not. >> do you believe the previous techniques, now armed with hindsight, do you below they were immoral, yes or no. >> i believe we should hold ourselves to the moral standards outlined in the army field manual. kennedy: there were senators who questioned lit getting wehat the mistakes of 17 years ago. but we are still living our blunders in iraq and afghanistan. it would be lovely to believe those mistakes were safely destroyed. they still exist in the souls of terrorists. torture was not moral 17 years ago. and despite silver tongue

promises, it's not a far stretch to think a c.i.a. director could put us on an enhanced hand cart to hell. we are still stinking up the middle east and smoldering coste wars. torture doesn't work, and pointing that out does not make you a softy. former vice president dick cheney just spoke with our own maria bartiromo and she asked him about the cia's enhanced interrogation program. >> it worked. water boarding was applied to only three individuals. one of them was khalid sheikh mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11. we needed to be able to get bin laden. so i supported it

wholeheartedly. i still do to this day. kennedy: many people in congress and the cia debate that assessment. is cheney right or wrong and is gina haspel the right man for the cia. let me ask bryan suits. >> thank you for having me. what did you make of the hearings today? >> she impressed me. she is a fairly unpolished, no nonsense person. she looks like a bureaucrat. her description of her time in the clandestine service is impressive. she has field time. but they feel like they have someone who knows her way to the h.r. office or the copy machine at cia. but that's not what she is being interviewed about. kennedy: no, it's not. we have a perceptual problem

with the fbi and the doj. there are old questions unearthed in this confirmation process that casts a cloud over the cia and it doesn't seem to be extremely helpful when law enforcement has to do a much better job of earning back trust. is she the best person in this tumultuous time? >> because she seemed to prevaricate with her answers about the usefulness or morality of torture, she didn't help herself. i wanted her to say, senator harris, you need me on that wall, you want my on that wall. but she can't do that. maybe behind closed doors she can do that. but she can't do that on live

tv. kennedy: i think that she still stands a very good chance of being confirmed. so let's say good forbid there are still a lot of terrorists who want to do as much harm as they possibly to be the united states. whether it's inspiring lone wolf actors. there is a lot of talk that al qaeda is putting the band back together and targeting major aircraft. if that happened. it was easy to make something that was immoral illegal and accessible. >> if you have somebody with actionable intelligence and you need that intelligence. i know from battlefield interrogations in iraq on the battlefield. if you catch a guy red hand with an i.e.d., i ask you to turn away for a few minutes and i will get the information.

i know of instances wherein tell jones was yielded immediately where people caught in the act felt something dire was going happen to them if they didn't take us directly to the i.e.d.s. i know lives were saved because i.e. dvments were found. if you torture somebody two years after he rolled up on the battlefield. john mccain was beaten up because he was not being a good prisoner. there is a difference between actionable intelligence you know you can yieldw from somebody with the threat of a donut or poison donut. torture is not one thing. it's situation dictates as we say in the army. kennedy: thank you for making that distinction. i think it worst things that

happen in the enhanced interrogation promise when one person was waterboard 183 times. or another person was kept naked in a small box for three days on end. there is a difference between a person's torture being pro lodged for days and months and years at a time. but as you say, there is a difference and for that i am grateful. >> it's the jack bower ticking time bomb. it would be immoral to allow someone to keep information that would safe innocent lives. just let me do the dirty work. kennedy: president trump is making big moves on the international stage. hillary clinton is still on her post-election failure book tour.

here is what she says in new zealand. >> it would be inaccurate to say i wasn't devastated base was devastated. i didn't expect it. i wasn't ready for it. and it still is an on going process. our country has not yet resolved it. people say why haven't you moved on? i say there are tens of millions of people who haven't moved on because there are so many unanswered questions. kennedy: what happened? hillary isn't over the elections. we hadn't noticed. she also said it was a perfect storm of reasons that she lost. but she'll be very active in the 2018 mid-terms. but it's been a year and a half, so why are hillary clinton and her lemmings still screaming, not my president. some people get mad because i

still talk about hillary. but i love talking about her. all they have to do is poke the she bear. >> she is the gift that keeps on giving. i think she is kind of right here. there are a lot of people who still aren't on it. there are those people screaming not my president. but the difference is those people though they might not be over it. every now and then they will talk about something else. every time she is talking it's always donald trump is bad, donald trump is bad. i lost because of this or this or this. kennedy: russia and misogyny. >> it's like she is a robot stuck in 2016 campaign mode. kennedy: she said she wasn't prepared for it. if you are going to run for political office there is a chance you will lose. >> she surrounded herself with people who were utterly

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hillary who summited five years after she was born. >> she tries to run for president twice. voters tell her no. she can't handle it. she is making all these excuses and that's a bad example to set for women and girls. if you fail to succeed in something, instead of flerng those mistakes -- that's what definition of insanity is. >> she feels no different now than she did on the campaign trail. kennedy: i love the no excuses. it's the best. coming up. you need a job? good news. it turns out there is a lot of work out there for anyone who is looking. brian brenberg is here to explain. [fbi agent] you're a brave man, mr. stevens.

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low wages increase. but that's not happening. the wage stagnation is worrying economists. should we be optimistic or concerned about the direction of your economy. brian brenberg is here. normally when there are fewer jobs wages go up because companies are fighting for the good workers. why are wages falling behind. >> they are fighting for the high skilled workers technology jobs and construction. they are look for those workers and are willing to pay a lot of money for those guys. but for a lot of workers who don't have skills, they are going after the jobs that aren't paid as much and are subject to automation. kennedy: welders and

accountants. >> these skilled jobs, you have employers willing to pay for that. a lot of people are competing for these lower skilled jobs. increasingly they have other options. kennedy: they have that automation. in the old days if there weren't any jobs where you lived, you just leave. that's what my parents did. they moved to oarlg -- to oregon and that's where they stayed. >> it's easier to stay where you are and make a living when welfare payments are more generous. that's part of the spur that gets h -- gets you moving. by some measures 25% fewer

people starting businesses. kennedy: people with great ideas and a lot of energy can't get capital because banks are still not lending money. >> they can't get capital or get a business permit. state level regulation of what people can and can't do. we talk about this at the federal level. but a of the big beariers are at the state level. states like california which have historically been such a job generator, now make it so difficult for someone to start a business. so that's -- california is driving people away because they made it so bad. kennedy: texas is taking them. >> utah is taking them. kennedy: there are some great places to live in texas. we'll miss you for the summer

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face killa is not his real first name. blow out the candles because this is the "topical storm." topic number one. we begin at a georgia high school fundraiser where they couldn't serve beer, but they did have plenty of punch. this charity game turned into an episode of monday night brawl after two men went from throwing bean bags to throwing hay makers. judging from the number of jabs, i'm guessing someone tried to score with someone else's wife. judging from the tone of that lady, i'm guessing some people got detention.

a few months back i vowed to stop making fun of 80s band on the store. but we received word that white snake postponed their new album. the band recently completed an album but the whole thing got deleted in a technical catastrophe. let's just say you should never hire an engineer who gets paid in posters. the new album is set to drop in early 2019. if you know any white snake bands, knock on the van and let them know. they were set to go on tour with foreigner. now that's on hold because jeff sessions wants to deport foreigner. topic number three.

washington, d.c. is not a stop on the white snake tour. but they did get a visit from the eagles this week. there is don henley. these folks were suppose to be protesting the president's cuts to max national service reservations. the way some of these people run, they look like they are protesting being picked last in gym. a spokesperson says the cuts to national service are an embarrassment to the nation. if anybody knows about being an embarrassment to the nation, it's these folks. topic number four. the california tech company created a robot that can serve coffee. what about one that can service you while you are drinking coffee. it's good news if you own a starbucks.

it's terrible news if you are about to graduate college with a degree in creative writing. it makes a fully automated barista that can serve 120 cups of coffee per hour. unlike starbucks your name will be spelled right on your cup. i don't know about you folks watching at home. but they never get it right in new york. the last time i went to starbucks the girl spelled my name jackass. my name is kennedy. the makers of cafe x say they are not trying to steel human jobs. these guys are fighting because they are so mad the white snake album got delayed.

topic number five. police in beautiful, knoxville, tennessee arrested a man who claimed he was captain jack sparrow from pirates of the caribbean. the arrest report says the man was so high he claimed bernie sanders would be our next president. that's when they knew he was on something. there he is. he was arrested after police saw him huffing superglue. come on, man, is that really illegal. someone better tell the supply kid on my staff. he ran from cops and told them to kill him before ramming his head on the sidewalk. police are examining him to see if he's mentally fit to stand trial. if not, he'll be sent where all the crazy folks go.

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kennedy: the israeli military reportedly just launched airstrikes in syria after iranian forces reportedly shot rockets in israel. they answered back. planes over damascus and lots of anti-aircraft fire. thank you so for watching the show tonight.

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