lou: gina loudon, charlie hurt, thank you for joining us. be sure to tune into the fox news channel and "tucker carlson." kennedy: spygate could be one of the biggest scandals in history, that according to president trump who upped the ante with the justice department. it does not appear he plans to back down anytime soon. the president has been pushing the story that the fbi had a confidential informant inside the campaign spying on him for political purposes. today on the white house lawn he put them all on notice. president trump: everybody wants this solved. but a lot of bad things have

happened. we call it spygate. i want total transparency. you have to have transparency. even they probably want transparency. this is -- this super creeds republicans and democrats. what i want from rod and the fbi and every one is transparency. kennedy: trey gowdy and devin nunes are meeting with the fbi and the department of justice. they did not invite any democrats which is upsetting chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. is the president right to be railing against the deep state and should tomorrow's meetings involve democrats? joining me, ron desantis, he's also running for governor in the

sunshine state. let's talk about this. there are a lot of elements to the story that may or may not be true. it's irresponsible to operate that we know there was a politically motivated spy operating within the trump presidential campaign. what do we know for certain and what about that is most of troubling to you. >> i think what we know is whatever this informant did, and he over wasly did something, we'll get the facts on that. if there was reason to believe there was a problem with russian influence in trump's campaign. what should the fbi, the cia or any of these agencies have done? they should have briefed the campaign and said we are worried about carter page or papadopoulos. but they never did that. if you were just as clapper said, we were spying but we were

spying on the russians, then you should have gone to the campaign so they could have taken defensive measures. the fact that they didn't leads me to believe they were actually interested in hoping there was something wrong with the campaign so they can use that. kennedy: not to be a conspiracy theorist, but to read some of the strzok and page texts. that might be the understand policies. it's difficult to explain. you are an agnostic supporter of the rule of law and the constitution. meaning you are not swayed either side politically. you want to make sure our elections are sacred and they are not infiltrated by russians or any other nefarious actors. wouldn't you make certain if there were vulnerable people within a campaign who were contacted by people who were interested in sowing chaos and

disdmoard this country. wouldn't you make sure someone knew about that? they can take those people off the campaign or make sure there was extra security cyber and otherwise measures put in place to protect the campaign and the candidate? >> of course you would. loretta lynch, comey, they all decided. this was very early on. much earlier than late july when the supposed papadopoulos thing started crossfire hurricane. this was in the early spring of 2016. before trump was even officially the nominee. they chose to keep him in the dark. if you look at what this informant is alleged to have done. i was clearly trying to manufacture contacts by bringing papadopoulos over to london and manufacturing contacts with carter page. there is a lot of stuff that's very fishy. that's why i agree with the president.

full transparency, put the information out there and let the american people decide. i don't want our tax dollars paying for somebody to basically keep tabs on an opposition party's campaign when there was no evidence of wrongdoing. kennedy: let's talk about the meeting. it's wise to have two separate briefings. why not have a congressional democrat in the meeting in the first place. talk about redundancy and wasting time. >> i'm fine. i want the american people, american and -- republican and democrat. kennedy: adam schiff isn't going to be any less of a blowhard if he's briefed later. lay the card out on the table

for the same people at the same time. i think i speak for the american people when i say we are sick of oddities. >> the fbi and the doj leadership, they need to level with the congress. when nunes started to pursue this angle they said it would kill national security. but who leaked it to the "new york times" and "washington post"? they were people in those agencies. the house intel didn't even have access to that information. kennedy: i will have a problem with devin nunes for a long time because he knew about these abuses before he pushed for more robust spying, the spy tools that created and exacerbated the problems we are seeing right now. i hope you and your colleagues make sure that power is kept in

check so this doesn't happen to any more presidential candidates. i don't care what party they are from. another way to do that is to hold people accountable to who abuse their positions and violated the law. that's why i and my colleagues have called for a special counsel to deal with the fisa abuse and deal with any improprieties involving launching an investigation on trump. if no one * is eld accountable -- kennedy: i want to hold people accountable who give people like that money and power. those are people in your position. you are not governor yet, you are still a congressman. and you still have a great responsibility to honor and uphold the constitution and i believe that you and your fellow stewards have in that regard let us down. i hope we remedy this in the

future so we are done with these political arguments. i do want to thank you for your time. the president also tweeted today, quote, look how things turned around on the criminal deep state. they go after phoney collusion with russia and get caught in a stage in spy scandal the likes of which there is country may never have seen before. what goes around, comes around. is spygate going to turn into a bigger issue than the russia investigation? kat timpf is here, along with robby soave, and lisa depasquale. we have some areas that if all of these things are proven true, they could be very bad. other things that have not been proven true so far are very

boring. >> this is all very crazy. it's something different every day. obviously that's a huge deal. it doesn't discredit the entire russia investigation. i think that investigation needs to be completed and brought to its full conclusion. i want to see all the things investigated. we don't know anything now for sure. right now there is so much confusion and a lot of crazy talk all over the place. kennedy: it's a little disingenuous when republicans talk about sp spygate and the pr these institutions have to spy on americans. >> the apparatus of law enforcement, the fbi of spying on people has gotten more powerful and violating of our civil liberties over the years. it's not surprising, i don't think, that it can be turned on people of for clear partisan

purposes. i find this new wrinkle interesting. i don't know if there is enough yet to suggest it's as serious a conspiracy as the president thinks it is. it's notable to me this character was involved in some possible wrongdoing in the 1980 kind of thing. carter reagan. a different carter. maybe that's the kind of guy you use for this kind of thing. kennedy: were there the same type of informants in the hillary clinton campaign? >> if this was to protect donald trump, where is the list of democrats they were also protecting. you would think they would want to protect their own. kennedy: if they are concerned about national security why would you just look at one party. it was the fbi that told the dnc their servers were flimsy.

>> even though they have this informant who doesn't exist, we still don't have any more information than we had before. but this reminds me of 2008 when back barr ran against the patriot act when he said sure it's fine now. but what if hillary clinton was president. i said he has a point. and here we are. kennedy: former director of national intelligence. i cannot stand this guy. he has been making the rounds promoting his new book. he now says he has no doubt the russians swung the 2016 election for the president. >> consider the fact that the election was less than 80,000 votes in three key states.

the russians started it. it stretches logic to me that it didn't have a human impact on the election. kennedy: he's like a clam without a shell. while the intelligence community did conclude russians tried to sway the election. they did not conclude they were successful. why is one of obama's top intelligence officials so sure they did. and if they were so sure about it. why did he wait and write a book? he doesn't give any evidence that the russians did in fact situate elections. he's just saying that they did. if they were so worried about the russians trying to sway the election. they didn't do enough to stop that if that happened. though he's not saying how it happened. >> i gives no evidence. it's just his word. his word means nothing to me. when he was asked in 2013 if nsa

was spying on americans he said no. and he lied. i don't know how he can weigh in on these issues when he has been proven to be a liar. what he has to say means nothing to me. kennedy: i still go back to this looks like an understand policy. if russians were speaking to people who are vulnerable and dumb and they tried to sway the election and they didn't do anything about it. he's saying russia is successful, we did a bad job. why should he be rewarded with my vote. >> like they made facebook groups that changed people's mind? voters suede the election by voting for trump. kennedy: did they hack into vote magazines in cities and counties

where they have those and alter the outcome? because that's a serious charge. >> the election was close enough that everyone is going to be able to claim their pet issue is what caused the small number of voters. that's your personal issue. kennedy: grind that into a no, robby. james clapper, do you know, love and trust him? >> if i few just mentioning russia in a book would get you on tv i would have done it. kennedy: they saw comey's book was selling well. someone approached him and said you can fart out 200 pages and we'll edit it and you are good to go. here is $500 million.

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kennedy: president trump putting nancy pelosi on blast. basically blaming her for supporting the ms-13 gang and doubled down on calling the members animals. president trump: democrats, nancy pelosi as an example, are trying to defend ms-13 gang members. i called them animals the other day, and i was met with rebuke. they said they are people. they are not people, these are animals. kennedy: the president announced he's work on a plan to reduce

aid to countries that he says do nothing to stop ms-13 gang members from illegally entering the u.s. should both sides agree violent gang members who rape and murder people are pretty bad. welcome back within shannon. let's discuss a little bit. i think there are plenty of fights you can pick with the president. you have to puck your toy somebody and do it in the right way. nancy pelosi defending ms-13 gang members. they will say they are not going to vote for you. there is nothing you can -- you can't charm your way into their personal ballot boxes. >> it's a real tough sell. you have people drawing battle lines over it. you heard the deputy attorney general saying there are

loopholes making it easier for ms-13 to come here and stay here and get away with things. sometimes the catch and release programs, there are loopholes that can be closed. my question is can members of congress get it together? i have been doing some. he. -- doing some prep. we are having one of those members on our show tonight. these accounts of the kinds of crimes that ms-13 has committed. and it's absolutely revolting. i literally had to put count research packet. it doesn't matter what party you are. this is not partisan or political. kennedy: there has to be areas agreement on immigration. we have to fix our broken immigration policy. and we have to keep bad people out. it's as simple as that. this is one of the few areas

where people can come together and say these are not people we want in our country. and the way that they dismember or beat and kill especially teenaged boys who aren't affiliated with the gang. it's really disturbing. it's okay to say these are the kind of people we don't want in the country, number one. number two, you don't want republicans to be tarred with the perception that they are saying that all immigrants, illegal or otherwise are like ms-13 gang members. because that's not true. this is a small minority of people who try to come into this country to do awful things and terrorize people. but that is not the majority of people coming here to seek a better life. >> when people speak about them, they have to be overly clear

about that. there are many on the lane stream media who will want to read more into it and run with it. but it's incumbent upon the speakers who talk about ms-13 to make sure that is abundantly clear. we have a quote from t. progress saying trump is using fears over ms-13 to push a racist platform. you can't give them any ammunition. you have to be clear when you talk about this. kennedy: those are also people they don't want a solution to the problem. they still want as much divisiveness as possible. they think it benefits their side. when we are at an impasse like that, we are not going to fix some of the immigration problems that we have. when there is so much confusion

at the top, at the federal level, that's when states start reinterpreting for themselves immigration policy. that's when you see sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. and it all gets very confusing. i think by and large americans see the best in people who come here and want to live here. and we have to move ford with that kind of a position so we fix what's wrong instead of you know playing this trench warfare for the next two generations. >> the key to this whole thing. you mentioned the cities and states doing their own thing with sanctuary city policies. this administration suing a number of them. then you have the battles in the supreme court. we are awaiting the decision on travel ban 3 .0. they are saying the president

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national anthem." whatever they were initially trying to achieve, they have failed. we are still talking about the protest. not the issues and certainly not a path to better outcomes. jared kushner has done more than colin kaepernick in terms of criminal justice reform. football is suppose to be escapist and all encompassing. not divisive. but they could bring kids and cops and activists together in one room and foster great lasting discussions. if a handful are doing that, they have failed with their impotent social media reach or the ability to articulate what needs to change and how to make

it better. the nfl also failed by trying to have it both ways. all the league knows how to do is offer token gestures that neither address nor fix the problem they say they care about. those who are lucky enough to reach the exeen it in their -- the zenith in their gloved sport. according to new rules the players must stand during the anthem. if they are on the field. if they kneel, the league will fine the team. but they can stay in the locker room if they don't want to stand. joining me now, kayleigh mcenany

and michael star hopkins. welcome to both of you. kayleigh, would you please with the policy changes the nfl announced today. >> no doubt about it. our military men and women were pleased as well. they know they will respect what "the national anthem" stand for. if they don't want to they can take a hike and go to the locker room. their protests, i can understand the issue. we can talk about that. but the issue got lost in a basically meaningless protest. kennedy: you and i talked about criminal justice reform many times it's an issue that does have bipartisan support. but not because of what nfl players have done. it's something -- this whole

side show has become such a distraction for such a critical issue that now when we talk about it and these politicized and almost pornographic terms. there is no application of policy changes that will make communities better. >> i am personally offended when the gop wraps themselves in the flag when it comes to the protests and "the national anthem" but fails to stand up to donald trump and his communications staff when they go after john mccain and the kahn family. i think that's a copout. whether it's aaron jenkins or colin kaepernick. you have athletes who stood up to give their time and money, and they are willing to give their careers so we can have a real conversation about criminal

justice system and a conversation about the unequal use of force against african-americans. look at sterling brown's body camera that was released today. 20 years ago we didn't have body cameras and people said we are making this up. kennedy: we are still talking about the protest. we are having some necessary conversations, but i think unfortunately what the protest has done -- why are you putting it all on nfl fans. why are people looking for escapism, why are they the ones being annoyed to death at a time when they are just trying to watch their team? can you imagine being a cleveland browns fan? >> i cannot. i'm a redskins fan so we have our own problems. this got weaponized by the president last fall. before he was kneeling, he was

sitting. he went to a navy seal to find out how can i do this more respect any and he knelt. kennedy: the president had his own issues with the nfl. he had and u.f.l. team and he tried to buy a buffalo bills team. >> i think michael is conveniently forgetting what president obama said. he said he believed colin kaepernick had the right to do this. but he said men and women of our military look at this and put it in a place of importance, that colin's message gets lost in that. i rarely say this, but president obama was spot-on. because of president trump's actions we'll no longer see these protests for veterans who come to a game and just want to

enjoy a football game. >> there is a privilege with being able to say i don't want to be distracted by these protests. >> i don't think our veterans are privileged. they made a sacrifice. >> they voluntarily joined the military and we thanked them for that. but they are fighting for my rights, too. the right to not be afraid if i get pulled over by the cops. when players are kneeling, that's what they are talk about. >> you:lose the argument when you call our veterans privileged. kennedy: i kind of side with kayleigh on that. men and women who put themselves in harm's way to protect other people's freedoms. that's powerful. to wear the uniform.

we are talking about a time when there is so much conflict. we are still in afghanistan. people who are brave enough to enlist right now, that's pretty powerful. i don't know if you are as brave when you get paid millions of dollars to do something that most of would consider to be pretty fun. >> i have friend and family in the military. i'm not disparaging the military. i want them to come home just like everyone does. i think they are defending our freedoms. when we talk about the land of the free and the home of the brave, we have to recognize not everyone has the same free experience. >> those problems are real. if you talk to people who have been pulled over and become part of system, and how difficult and near impossible it is to get out of that system. that's where we have to make policy changes, and you have to have people who want to make those changes. my problem is with people who do these flimsy protests who don't

know why they are protesting in the first place. they are just getting some attention. and that doesn't make communities safer or make things better. >> is it the athletes who don't know why they are protesting or the people who don't know why they are protesting. that's what the players need to address, having a unified message. kennedy: they would probably be doing the the same thing if they were social workers or doctors. i should not can forced to engage in could your political rhetoric when i'm engaging in escapism. >> that's not how that works. kennedy: i don't lecture when i'm watching the oscars and i don't want it when i'm watching football. especially my beloved ucla bruins. >> this protest has divide us. this has made us farther apart. here is what gets us closer to

the answer. if you are serious about these issues, it's was van jones did when he pushed divisiveness aside. he's not trump's biggest fan. say i'm going to work with jared kushner and extend a hand and olive branch. look what we have. we have criminal justice reform. kennedy: thank you so much. appreciate it. coming up, a 30-year-old man has become the poster child for entitled losers after refusing to move out of mom and dad's house. today he went to court, but did common sense prevail? the panel returns to discuss next.g, ng in a bottle. over 260 years later, with a little resourcefulness, ingenuity, and grit, we're not only capturing energy

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kennedy: a judge in upstate new york ruling that a 30-year-old man must move out of his parents house. mom and dad have been trying to kick him out for six months. he'll not leave. he claims he needs more time because he doesn't have a job. he's actually suing best buy for $400,000 because he was fired for refusing to work on saturday. now he's officially been

evicted. is this proof that millennials are lazy or welfare states don't work? kat timpf, yoib soave and lisa depasqual. his parents sent him so many letters begging him to leave. why can't a 30-year-old grown man get out of his mom and dad's house. >> there is so much blame to go around. the parents for making it too comfortable for him to be there. he never wanted to leave. he moved back home after dropping out of college. they made it too comfortable for him to leave. they even offered to pay his health insurance, and he said no because it will interfere with the benefits i'm getting. so the system was making it too comfortable for him.

this poor guy has his court clothes that he wears to all his court things. obviously he's to blame as well. kennedy: he's pretty low down on the list. >> you look at him and go yeah, that's exactly what i would expect that guy to look like. also, i mean, they are going to court? just being a better parent initially. kennedy: your parents write you letters and they have to take to you court and a judge has to go you are such a disgusting deadbeat. move out of your parents' house. >> they are lucky they won this decision and they can actually get rid of him maybe. our laws in some states like california are unfriendly to people who rent it's hard to get people out of your own property

and your own house. kennedy: that's why you have to be careful. >> he has more going for him than we are giving him credit for. he's a deadbeat and a train wreck. but he's become famous for becoming a deadbeat and train wreck. he could have his own show on mtv. if i were him i would get a youtube account and start streaming all my fights with my parents. kennedy: that's a great idea. i don't think he's motivated enough to do that. he's not even motivated enough to be a youtube star. they offered to fix his broken car and he wouldn't do it. what a beautiful night. you can move in with kat any time and be super famous.

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making headlines. let's head out to avery lake, ontario, where two lynx are doing a perfect impression of life on twitter. i don't believe this is real. the one on the left is like laurel, and the one on the right is saying yanny. the one on the left said russian collusion. neither side is listening and they are on the verge of a fistfight. i think it's fake. it's like chewbacca. you are wondering what they are really fighting over, it's mating season for the lynx it's part of their courtship ritual. you can fight all you want when you get married.

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