ed rollins, good to see you. michael goodwin. 500 days and counting under president trump. whon the end you are not measured by how much you undertake, but how much you finally accomplish. kennedy: president trump coming out swinging against the mueller investigation, blasting it as unconstitutional. because as he claims, he's not guilty of anything. but his critics are accuse him of believing he is above the law after the president tweeted this. as has been stated by numerous they will scholars, i have the solute right to pardon myself. but why would i do that when i have done nothing wrong? the president's newest attorney, rudy giuliani echoed the pardon

claim yesterday on the sunday shows. but added he believes there will be hell to pay if he pardons he has no intention pardoning himself. i think it would get answered by that's what the constitution says. if you want to change it, change the. i think the political ramifications of that would be tough. >> you can't interfere with him either from a point of view of indictment tore question. you can't interfere with the president's time. kennedy: white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders defended the president when reporters bombarded her with questions about his power to self-pardon. >> the president said i have an absolute right to pardon myself. why does he think that. dose also agree with rudy giuliani, his lawyer, that a

pardon would be unthinkable. >> thankfully the president hasn't done anything wrong and wouldn't have any need for a pardon. >> does the president think he's above the law? >> the president hast done anything wrong. kennedy: innoc people are found guilty every day. they would love a pardon. over the weekend fox news obtained a 20-page letter that the trump legal team sent to mueller in january. it claims trump dictated don, jr.'s letter. legal experts say the mueller team is looking deeply into that. there are a lot of moving parts here. but is it evidence of impeachable wrongdoing? here to break it down. judge andrew napolitano. first up, mike lee. he's not only a lawyer.

he's a member of the senate judiciary committee and the author of the book written out of history. that is available in paperback and a perfect summer read. welcome back to the show, senator. so you have worked in the supreme court. your name has been floated as a possible nominee to become an associate justice. you tell me. does the president have the absolute power to pardon himself? >> i'm not aware of anything in the constitution that says he doesn't have that power. just because he could doesn't mean he should. it's clear he shouldn't and it would and big mistake politically to do so. kennedy: everyone on his team echoed what you said, it would be a bad idea. i think the president knows that, so why brit up in the first place? >> they like to talk about it.

i think it's a moot point because i don't think he's ever going to do that. it would and bad political move for him and henows that. kennedy: it's one of those issues that hasn't been pushed to its limits. we don't know the full scope of something like that were it to happen. the president could conceivably pardon himself and be impeached. we don't know that yet and i don't think anyone wants to answer those questions. >> the impeachment is different from a cminal consequence. an impeachment is a political. a pardon deems with c court. kennedy: one seems to precede the other. people on the president's team say if he did self-pardon that would lead to impeachment.

that's what rudy giuliani said. >> they love to talk about this issue. i think it's apparent why. nonetheless, we have a lot of other issues t talk about. issues they don't want to talk about. that's why they keep returning to this one. kennedy: i think it's a big distraction. is the president using it to his advantage? >> i don't know. only time will tell whether he's using it to his advantage. but it's important to remember we do have a constitutional system. the system works well. they they talk about this, they speak of it as if it's a separation of powers issue. the tension between the special counsel and the presidency creates a separation of powers issue. the executive branch of government is in fact answerable to him. kennedy: that was part of basis

of the 20-page memo that fox news got ahold of that leaked wkend. we talk about the constitutional crises and the rule of law and checks and balances. we speak of the constitution as though it's something that's very static. whose conclusion were reached quite easily. but as you point out in your book, that's not necessarily the case. the way you talk about the forgotten members of thing conversa regarding the constitution almost remind me of the scientific method and how that came to be. >> that's exactly right. i appreciate you raising that issue. we have provisions of the constitution we have forgotten about. at the same time for i am there are reasons about the lost founders, forgotten found horse had been fighting big government

for a long time about the fir quoi --about the i the iriqois f government. we forgot about that principle am tbhet -- in the 10th amendm. kennedy: a scholar of law and history, and a rare voice in the senate. does the president have the power to pardon himself and is it legally impossible for him to obstruct justice? let bring in judge napolitano. i know you and senator lee have an interesting relationship in that you parsed a constitutional issues. is this one of the topics that two of youould do?

>> no, this came up over the weekend. i was critical of rudy giuliani for raising it, but he didn't raise, chuck todd raised it. the manner in which he answered it ginned up his own client. the mayor said he could have had comey shot and not be prosecuted for it. the imagery is horrific and i don't know why mayor giuliani would raise that imagery. kennedy: we talk about the constitution. and you talk about the federalist papers. it was never designed protect the president from any accountability at all. >> the president is not a king. he, the president of the

executive branch of government. he would be arrested, charged and prosecuted. the president can't be put on trial while he's president. but he would be rye -- would be rearrested the minute he left office. can he pardon himself? the supreme court said the pardoning power is plenary and there is no check on it. the other argument is we have a rule of law in this country. the supreme court expressly embodies it. no one can be the prosecutor and judge in his own case. pardoning himself would make him the prosecutor and judge in his own case. i can't imagine the framers contemplated the pardon power could be used to pardon one's

self. kennedy: we don't wants to know the answer. that means we elected someone so horrible. >> one of the best ways to interpret the constitution is to avoid as many clashes as you can and denied things narrowly rather than broadly. i don't know if we ever get there. we won't get there unless he does pardon himself. can he obstruct justice? of course he can. if he orders somebody fired for a corrupt purpose, that makes the use of his power obstruction and that makes it a potential crime and a potential impeachable offense. one of the arguments against richard nixon was the use of the pardoning power to interfere with prosecutions as an impeachable offense. kennedy: that's why people get

so nervous when the president talks about pardoning somebody like martha stewart tore rob blagojevich. he doesn't done it yet. >> he tamped down that talk today by throwing under the bus paul manafort. he said if i had known paul manafort had these connections with the ukrainians, i wouldn't have hired him in the first place. tinkering with the constitution is a dangerous business. i like the president, and i know the president. even if i didn't, he's the valid, lawful, elected president of the united states. the people want him to do his job as president. but he must do it lawfully and constitutionally. i love this show, but i can't wait for that panel. that is a hot panel.

they are fidgeting over there. they are dying for you to get to them. even a little outnumbered with a guy in the middle. thank you, judge. the president 500th day in office today. he celebrated where else? on twitter, writing quote this is my 500th day in office and we accomplished a lot. more than any president in his first 500 days. massiveax and regulation cuts. military and vets. lower crime and illegal immigration. stronger borders. judgeships. the white house is calling it 4500 days of american -- calling it 500 days of american greatness.

katie pavlich is here. michael malice, and conservative columnist and author of how do i tax thee. welcome everyone. this is so fascinating. the 500 days. if you ask democrats they will say it's total failure. the economy is in shambles. people have horrible jobs that they hate even if unemployment is low and the president is doing an important job in the oval office. however, 87% of republicans til support him. the on person who had a number that hig since world war ii w the president after world war ii. >> he's been able to get a lot done.

we have a new supreme court justice. deregulation. small businesses and large businesses can grow and tax reform has aloud more peopl to ke the money. this is good for the president he's getting results. and even better for him, 2020 will be here before we know it. kennedy: there have been a few political bright spots in the primaries. the president says he can legitimately point to his record. i think he would be the most of popular president in modern history at this point in time. but he does a lot to harm the goodwill he gathers with this positive agnostic data. an the big problem. unless that back breaks under the shawl and trench coat as some sort of in-home jailing

device. hillary clinton has not been locked up. >> there is no wall, he also said he would audit the fed by executive order. kennedy:ed. >> members of the press have not been executed or put on trial in were lots of things he said he would be doing. he moderated his position on the justicese put up. i am also not s winning. an was promised i would be sick of winning. ke t arehenill you be sick of winning? >> we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. kennedy: kristin you are a supporter of the president. how has he done 500 days in? >> under allt he's dealing with web's done the best he can. for being the oldest president sworn into office.

he has an incredible amount of energy. he pmised us a wall. this is a president who i believe got eed on immigration. and he signed tha omnibus legislation that expanded catch and release and band himself from build tag wall it was a total betyal to his supporters. >> how are we going to put up people against the wall. kennedy: oh, no, michael malice. >> i'm just asking questions. kennedy: not making statements at all. i love them. the judge is right. the supreme court ruling in favor of a baker who refused to make a gay wedding cake. do we need the government to tell a private business who they can and cannot serve?

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kennedy: the supreme court sided with a colorado baker who refused to make a same sex wedding cake becau itlated his religious rights. the court said the court did not take into account the religious beliefs of baker jack phillips. attorney general sessions released statement saying he was pleasedh decision. where is he, by the way. but not everyone was happy, including the same-sex couple who ordered the cake. >> the kinds of discrimination we face affects people across

the country every day. i don't think any one business has a monopy o discriminating against lgbt people. kennedy: that's why you should go to a bakery that wants to bake a beautiful cake for you. the court did not rule on whether cake bake is aroteed form of free expression and says the broader issue of must await first elaboration. my next guest says the ruling was too narrow. >> 7-2, that's great. but then started reading it. and it's pitiful. these two guys complaining about terrible discrimination. it was one baker. they could have found another baker. kennedy: there are many people in colorado who are desperate for that kind of business where, you know, people who are young and in love are going to spend a

lotf money on their weddings and they don't caren if it's a white cake or pride rainbow, they will bake it for you. those are the people you should honor with your consumer vote. >> you shouldn't need a religious reason. if it's your business. and you want to say i tomorrow want to serve japanese people who stand on their heads, that's your right. kennedy: that's a narrow market. >> it wouldn't be smart. the colorado civil rights commission said that they compared the baker's religious beliefs to believing in the holocaust and slavery. somebody else on our side, i guess, went to another barrack and said i would like to you bake me a cake with a message that's against gay marriage.

saying -- just to tes the law. and the same civil rights commission said, you can't ask for that. you ask someone to be forced to write messages that they find offensive or objectionable. but that's what they just ruled on the other side. kennedy: that's why we abide by the constitution. that's the rule book we accepted. >> the constitution said in your private life you get to serve anybody you want. kennedy: this ways makes me mad. it's not about being pro gay or anti-gay it, about pro freedom. and sometimes for some people freedom is very inconvenient. >> that's life. that's what makes life work. i discriminated when i married my wife and pick my friends and

chose to come to work for fox. these are all discrimination. kennedy: you were discrime nateed against when you worked at nbc. >> and was their right. kennedy: did you stay there and take the abuse? hell, no, you came to fox business. you used those liberty legs and marched right here into our hearts. take a rainbow pen if you like. the star of the tv criminal minds. first up, bill clinton asked about the #metoo movement. are his chickens coming home to roost? >> 20 years ago, and the american people 2/3 of them stood with me. i tried to do a good job and continue with my life and my

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because hillary lost. when he was asked if mr. hillary apologized to monica lewinsky. he went on a tie rid about leaving the white house without a penny to his name. >> nobody believes i got out of that for free. i left the white house $16 million in debt. but you typically have ignored gaping facts in discovering this, and i bet you don't even know them. kennedy: my favorite part of that clip is not his slurring. it's the look on james patterson's face as though he was woken up from a nap at the home during visiting hours. he was in debt before he made a few hundred million dollars

loading up the corrupt silos. for monica the dress was blue. to bill, it was solid gold. but did i apologize? >> i did not apologize to her. i have not talked to her. i have never talked to her. but i did say publicly on more than one occasion that i was sorry. that's very different. the apology was token. cannes he's grandpa forrest gump. a public apology says it not an apology. part of the reason hillary lost was in additioning to her unparalleled unlikability was her world class hypocrisy. she thought she would ride the lady train to 1600 pennsylvania avenue because every woman would

proclaim, i am with her. monica lewinsky has taken stock in her life and taken responsibility. i guess that's too much to ask for the most powerful in the world who abused that power. he takes the opportunity to explain why every woman should be so lucky to hold this cigar. kennedy: his claim he happens to be a fan of that very movement that aims to rid the workplace of people like him. >> i like the #metoo movement. it's way overdue. it doesn't mean i agree with everything. i still have questions about some of the issues. kenned if you listen closely

you can hear everyone on set docko doing a spit take. the party panel is back. malice, what did you think of the interview. >> monica lewinsky when this was happening, bill clinton and his goons made it a case in the press that she was a stalker. they would have ruined this young girl's life. and without that dna evidence her life would have been ruined and he would have no remorse. the fact that he doesn't see the need to apologize is re present hencible and shows what a complete sociopath him and his mummy wife are. kennedy: i agree completely. i would argue he didn't ruin her life. she tried several times to go to

school and start an accessories line and whatever else to make something of her life. and it's been difficult. and she is still a punch line. >> she said even at a young age, how am iver going to find a husband. for what? what did she do? and let's not forget. ken starr, for the clintons to say he was impeached over sex would be like a drunk driver saying i had the wrong wine at dinner. >> what struck me about the interview was you a unprepared he was for these questions and the fact that he took no responsibility. the clintons are good friends of harvey weinstein. would you think they would spend some time thinking about this. >> you would think he would have

something to say. but what's been interesting is to see these outlets like the "new york times" and the atlantic start to run articles that take a look at the skeletons in clinton's closet. the left said we need to believe all women but the left refused to acknowledge clinton's accusers like to juanita broaddrick. kennedy: what's interesting, michael touched on it saying he's a sociopath. you realize how angry he is about this and how he hasn't been able to move on. we are talking about probably the most of polished politician of our lifetime. more so than president reagan or obama. >> as recently as 2013 the democratic party was glorifying ted kennedy as a women's rights

champion ignoring the fact that he left a woman to suffocate in her car. the clintons have had this come to jesus movemt. somehow the dam broke and they came to that conclusion. feminists ruined her life as well and enabled men like him to continue this behavior against young women so long as they are pushing the right progressive policies. they have been doing it up until the last year. kennedy: i think what we are seeing is a generational shift. there are young feminists who are disgusted by what they have done. i think that's why a lot of younger democrats gravitated toward bernie sanders. >> hillary clinton was the

democratic version. you are a leftist jab tie corporation you will go tore someone like bernie sanders. kennedy: i know bill clinton tries to differentiate himself from president trump. but the similarities in their personalits and the things they do and say because they all feel like they are transformational figures. >> what's so weird to what you said about the young women and young feminists. many of them don't even realize there are so many accusations against bill clinton. of course, they know about monica lewinsky, but because the press ignored many of his accusers until now. they don't even know this happened. kennedy: but clintons don't matter so now they are running to uncoast. what a great panel.

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>> what do we know so far? he's obsessively neat and clean. he did research, abducted five people and gets to a special recruitment session at specific time. that's extensive preplanning. >> what about hair color? >> those who show color they appear to be brunette. kennedy: that's a clip from the show "criminal minds." the show profiles fbi profilers. the longevity of the shows run can be credited to the amazing acting and incredible story ideas. joining me, kirsten vangsness and joe mantegna.

kennedy: how fortuitous to have 4 years of long employment. >> my hair color has changed since we started the show. kennedy: you walked in with jet black hair. let me ask you this. i know you direct quite a few episodes of the show. the fbi has been in deep yogurt. the perception of the bureau has taken a hit. are you asked to address that by the fbi? >> not at all. i have been on the show 11 years. and i have been to quantico numerous times. i have been to the fbi headquarters in los angeles. just like anything else. things are going to get talked

about and things are going to happen. but at the end of the day thank god we have this organization. this is a huge organization that's been around for a long time, and they do incredible work. we do the pretend version of it. people say to me, isn't the show kind of grim? i say you think the show is grim. you should see what they really do. recently one fbi guy is the guy that was responsible for the whole thing you heard about where they tracked the dna to some murderer's cousin sent in dna to one of these websites. they traced the dna back to find out that he had a relative who wowpped up being the murderer of 30 years ago of these women. it's that kind of dedication. kennedy: true crime is interesting and you co-write a

lot of the episodes as well. even as a co-writer, a script writer. you still find the show hard tch sometimes because it's so real. >> i don't watch at all personally. the violence freaks me out. i think it's great other people watch and i enjoy writing it. i love the idea that people are not inherently bad and we are all human beings and monsters are created by monsters and people make egregious choices based on things from their past. these guys are just a joy to write for. and other things you make up weird stuff. we had a guy dislocate people's legs because i couldn't achieve something in a dance class and i

dislocated my leg. when we went in to resolve the opiate crisis. we made the bad guy the opiate. it's not all black and white. nothing is black and white. kennedy: in hollywood it is black and white. but you happen to be a pro cond amendment person. >> i am. kennedy: i celebrate your pro second amendment. >> i keep it out of politic. i have been an independent my whole life. my take on it is this. second amendment is not a political issue it's not a republican or democrat issue. it's a natural right. people who are against it. it becomes their whole. you are into people taking guns on the streets and skiing each other. read thomas jefferson and go back to the origins of why we have

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kennedy: the "star wars" opinionoff is so low, it's behind "rogue one." nowadays if audiences want to see a far-fetched story, they can turn on cnn. topic number one. let's start tonight in riverside, california, where everyone knows if a cop tells you to get down, he means it. police responding to a noise complaint at birthday party for a teenaged boy. rather than busting them, he busted a move. it's a go-to dabs for white

people at parties. over 1 any people watched this video. all right. first there was the cuba shuffle, now there is the light shuffle. topic number two. it's been three years since the state of oregon legalized recreational marijuana. but societal changes are almost nonexistent except for the fact there is a cat running for mayor in the town of bend. his owners are running him for office. in what they say is part publicity stunt and part fundraising venture. it's the same model as bernie sanders but with' better odds of winning. this cataloged up the vote of every unmarried woman in her 40s.

leonard works as a greeter as a local art gallery. election laws prevent a cat from being on the ballot but this owners plan to appeal. it's about type we had a candidate who knew how to think outside the litter box. topic number 3. in china folks found out the hard way why you should never y a fit bit for a panda. she has been wandering the chinese countryside for weeks. researchers believe she is looking for a mate. she would never go to a bar, because ebb pandas kno going to a par when you are single is like going to a grossy store when you are hungry, you bring home a bunch of junk you don't need like a series of stds.

she didn't find a in the countryside, but she did find hillary clinton's email server under a pile of bamboo. she knows what classified ma a topic number four. chang tatum announced magic michael musical is coming to london. the sound you hear is the queen buying orchestra seats. that sound is her getting a lot of singles. tatum announced on last night's episode of britain's got talent. and says he would love to star tonight. but he needs to get in shape. since when do guys have to be in shape to be in a broadway play, asked michael moore. casting is under way and they

have already chosen their first finalist. there it is. you can dunk your donut in my coffee cup, lawman. he has to l off the maple bars until november. topic number five it's mugshot monday. this weekend winner made a name for herself. she is a 40-year-old floridian who was arrested for crystal meth. that's right. crystal methfin was arrested for crystal meth. she was caught in a car along the south dixie highway. her male companion was taken into custody.

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