they are for today. rather than hammering them, he talks about figure out what they actually believe and draw a logical line to what you believe and what you're talking about. even in this day and age where people aren't conversing. i don't know. >> a great man, he'll be missed. "the evening edit" starts now. >> where is the media outrage over the catch-and-release policies that allow deadly drugs to pour into our country? where is the condemnation of the democrat sanctuary these release violent criminals into our communities and then protect them. liz: firestorm over illegal border crossings still white hot. now this, questions mounting about "time" magazine's misleading cover. the face of separation at the border not at all what it seems. we have new details of what really happened and it's not as bad as you've been told. and this misleading photo is being downplayed in the media.

money, politics, we deliver the debates behind tomorrow's headlines. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit," it starts right now. . liz: first to your money, the dow jumping 119 points to end the day at 24,580. it did snap an eight-day losing streak, but still ending down for the week. remember, we for a tight trading range that is common for all midterm election years. but first to the photos seen around the world, the symbol of separation at the border found out to be misleading. >> 50 kids are taken away from parents every day as of last month. right now it's around 70 kids every day being taken away from their parents. >> the white house defiant but struggling to quiet the outcry over children separated from

parents at the border. reporter: according to customs and border patrol statistics is it meant as a deterrent or not? because the white house can't get message straight. >> zero tolerance policy separated at least 2,000 children. liz: people have shared this photo now on the cover of "time" magazine as well. millions of times on social media. it has sparked protests and a lot of misinformation. the family never separated while they were in the custody of border control. now to the scene, they've been together in the custody of authorities in texas. the girl's father dennis hernandez revealing that authorities told him his daughter and her mother sandra sanchez had been detained together for the entire time, again in mcallen, a texas border town. sanchez applied for asylum. also a honduran deputy foreign minister confirmed the two were never separated. joining me now is the daily

caller news editor in chief, chris bedford. your reaction to the symbol of separation at the border not separated at all, now on the cover of "time." >> amazing, the cover goes from trying to report the news to being straight up propaganda. the other things struck me when i saw the magazine. the first thing was probably "time" magazine was still around. i thought they had gone out of business, maybe sold in airports. the second thing is how stark the image was, not only taken an image that was falsely portrayed not by the photographer but "time" and doctor it to send a political message. this is an are going on on our border for years and years and years, it's interesting a lot of people in the media said right now this is the number one story. north korea, the inspector general report pushed out of the news in favor of this and some of this narrative does not come together. liz: to your point, the media does like to attack the president for lying.

what about the misreporting here. to the facts. mother was not escaping violence. husband has a paying job. she paid a coyote $6,000 to cross illegally to look for a better job. the husband never told him never said good-bye, she took their daughter and left. he says it was irresponsible of her to do that? >> absolutely was irresponsible. you see families in maryland or virginia, if you let your kids walk home from school, social services might take them away, she took this child on a very dangerous trip. no wonder the child was crying. traumatic incident. one of the most shameful things, you see it with the european migration cries and its american one, when the pictures are shown to not tell the story that the left is trying to push the borders, what's important is a child is crying, they want to protect the narrative. kind of like they're constructing a fiction on the border. so many of the people are

economic immigrants, coming here for a job, that's a fine thing to do, crossing the rio grande is not the way to do it. liz: it's illegal, breaking the law to cross the border. who said that in the past? bill clinton, barack obama and on and on. >> you and i can't do it. liz: a border patrol agent at the scene of that photo, i think he's partially in the photo, he tells cbs the truth behind the photo. he describes what really happened that night. let's take a listen. >> sat the kid down in front of her, not away from her, right in front of her so we can properly search the mother. so the kid immediately started crying as she sat her down. i personally asked the mother are you doing okay? is the kid okay? and she said yes, tired and thirsty. it's 11:00 at night. they're using it to symbolize a policy and that was not the

case in the picture. took less than two minutes, she immediately picked the girl up and the girl immediately stopped crying. liz: 11:00 at night, the child was tired and thirsty, that's why she was crying. chris, does it seem like "time" and the other media do they bother to fact check the picture before they rip into president trump? >> why would they? the facts are less important than painting a narrative and look at the officer here. is that guy a nazi stormtrooper, white guy from new england who's down there to destroy immigrants? sounds like he's got a fairly strong accent. he doesn't fit the mold. looks like a hard-working cop. a lot of the cops have been talking about they have kids at home. they have families. they're trying help people and the evilness, the wickedness they see in a day-to-day basis and the desperation is heart breaking, a very difficult job and they're dragged to the mud and called terrorists, it's

shameful. liz: you've heard me say this before it's a mistake to separate them once they cross the border, and the president reversed it with executive order. now 500 children reunited, they're going to continue to do that. guess what? this mother has done this before, chris, crossed that border and previously, illegally crossing in 2013. not that the u.s. is dealing with problematic borders, brexit is, eu, italy, let's get more on the misleading photo. was used for a facebook fund-raiser that pulled in nearly $19 million so far in donations, for a nonprofit. refugee and immigrant center for education and legal services, people can spend and donate whatever they want. that's not what we're reporting. what we're reporting is this is the largest crowdfunding event in the history of social media platform. facebook stock closing higher $201 and change, up more than 14% year to date.

chris, this is a misleading photo that's used to raise money. does facebook have a responsibility to stop that? >> facebook is absolutely nowadays has a responsibility. maybe two years ago i would have said no when facebook was saying, we're just a message board, something you can post and we're not responsible for the content on there. now that they've taken the role as police as who wants to come down and crack down on fake news, much of this narrative is fake news. is there trouble at the border? yes, going on for years. is there human sadness south of the border? absolutely. that's not the narrative the open borders people are trying to paint. when they misrepresent to raise money, that's a shameful think. i bet the people donate to the cause without the picture, maybe not quite as much but still care about it, but either way using fake news to push the narrative. liz: president trump meeting with angel families whose loved ones were killed by criminal illegal immigrants. watch. >> none of our kids had a

minute to say good-bye, we weren't lucky to be separated for five days or ten days. we're separated permanently. >> my separation is permanent, there is never coming home. i never get to take a selfie with her again. >> they could fill the stage up every day for five months of victims of illegal alien crime and it would keep going. >> remember when you go home and hug your kids, many of us, thousands of us don't get to do it anymore. >> he shouldn't have been there and we had many opportunities to get him out. liz: chris, this is heart breaking, it is heart breaking what the families are going through. we interviewed them on this show and they routinely say they never hear from democrats. nobody's talked to them. they have felt ignored by this country for a very long time. your reaction. >> i just met two of them on the way in here, and i told them there was not a dry eye in our news room. people were choked up watching the news conference today. it was a very, very moving, very emotional news conference, and you know it's not

surprising to me they haven't been reached out to by democrats, and i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the people who are suffering on the border for trying to cross it legally will never hear from a democrat either. for a lot of folks in washington, d.c., they are political pawns. this is not something they're interested in helping. liz: i didn't want to ask the question about politics, this say human story, right? it's about -- it's a human story, story of compassion and humanity. go ahead, chris. >> why are they bringing this up right now? why is it pushed right now? seems like people in washington found a hook they're willing to push about human tragedy going on at border and found something which they can use to push the trump white house to stop enforcing our laws, and a good thing for the republican party or the conservatives or donald trump to say, there are human stories on both sides, tell human stories about the citizens we were elected to represent. liz: chris, great to see you, thank you so much for coming

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. liz: welcome back. national security adviser john bolton heading to moscow next week to arrange a potential meeting between president trump and russian president vladimir putin. also energy secretary rick perry will also host russia's energy minister for a meeting in washington next week. let's bring in south carolina republican congressman ralph norman. good to see you, congressman. thanks for coming on the show. >> my pleasure.

liz: already seeing the media criticism, russia, russia, and why is president trump wanting to meet with putin. your reaction to that? >> well, you know, it's like they've done since this president has been elected. it's all criticism. he gets no kudos for anything. i think it's great he's taking the time to meet with putin. look what he's done with north korea. everything starts with the conversation and particularly with russia now. i give him credit for having the courage, in spite of the criticism, to meet with him and particularly before the g7 conference, sending john bolton to moscow is a great thing for him to do. bolton is a brilliant strategist. he's a brilliant person that we personally interviewed on capitol hill. so i think it's a great thing. >> the point is to avoid nuclear war or north korea shooting off a nuclear missile, right?

>> correct, well -- >> yeah, go ahead. >> i think that's one of the topics they'll be discussing. you know, everybody knows, including primp, putin is no choir boy. he's -- he does not have the best interest of the country and as nikki haley and others have said, you deal with him like you deal with a nation that does not have our best interest. liz: yeah, he's been -- you make a great point, meddling in our election is completely wrong and that's what russia has been doing to us and other countries as well. we want to show again president trump meeting with russia's medvedev caught on a hot mic saying this, watch -- . liz: i'll transfer the information to vladimir. that's interesting, isn't it? bring it up in the past, go

ahead. >> why did the press not jump on that. you didn't hear a word about it after obama said that, they never questioned him. what did he mean by that? why after the election did he have more leverage or freedom to do whatever he wanted to do. shows in my mind the incompetence of ex-president obama and now with a leader like president trump, you get the feeling like he understands what he's dealing with, he's going to open the dialogue to talk, and i can't see how that's not a good thing. liz: peace through strength. opec agrees to modest hikes in oil supply after saudi arabia and iran made a compromise. check of oil prices, up 20% year to date. regular gas prices climbing higher versus last year as well. here's the story, congressman, what do you make of -- the president is tweeting about opec and gas and oil price. what's your reaction to what's going on with opec?

>> what opec is doing is alerting the whole world stage what's going on with the prices. nobody is happy with what we're paying in the country. what people are happy with, though, is what we're doing to make our country energy independent and not having to rely natural gas, oil from countries that are enemies of the united states. that's another reason for president trump to meet with vladimir putin and other leaders that are not necessarily our friends. liz: russia's entire stock market is equal to the value of apple's market value. russia in terrible straits with financial difficulties and in and out of recession. what kept us out of recession during the financial collapse was our oil industry in a boom time, right? the president is rolling back the handcuffs on oil industry. we could be the world's biggest exporter supplanting,

surpassing saudi arabia. >> look at the encouragement this president has done with fracking. look what he's done to keystone pipeline. anwr, opening up the 2,000 acres hadn't been done since don young said in 30 years. it's making this country energy independent. it's a national security issue and i just appreciate the president taking the stance he's doing. liz: and for russia, like sanctions on steroids. our oil industry going in like that. congressman, great to you have on. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. liz: first homeland security secretary nielsen confronted by protesters at dinner, now outside her home. "the next revolution" steve hilton joins me next with his take, coming up. what might seem like a small cough to you...

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>> or actually -- >> bad morning. >> bad morning. >> liz: florida protests and heated rhetoric continues for homeland security secretary kiersten nielsen, confronted by protesters when she was eating at a mexican restaurant. today protesters gathered outside her home in virginia. joining me now is steve hilton, host of "the next revolution." what's your take on the border rhetoric here? >> i think what we're seeing now is just an extreme version of something that i've observed ever since i've been working in politics, going back a long time. on the left when they disagree with you, they don't just say you're wrong, they say you're morally wrong, they say you're evil. it's a tactic of the left. what we're seeing now is that escalated to such a level of hate and anger that it makes reasonable conversation about what's the right policy on immigration or the border almost impossible because you literally

can't say anything without being denounced as we've seen all week as a nazi for saying anything other than open borders. and it's just simila impossiblee a sensible conversation. i don't know what's going to happen to change this. the anger and the hatred against donald trump is just so strong at the moment. >> liz: to your point, also against i.c.e. agents who have been tasked with doing the job that congress wrote laws for them to do here's cynthia nixon saying i.c.e. should be abolished. watch. >> i guess i'm glad he signed the executive order against himself, protecting them from him. i wish he would sign more executive orders protecting all of us from him. [ cheering and applause ] >> parents and children aren't just separated at the border. they're being separated by i.c.e. i think we need to abolish i.c.e. that seems really clear. i.c.e. is relatively new. it came in after september 11th. we've been handling immigration and customs for a long time here and they have strayed so far

from the interest of the american people and the interest of humanity. we need to abolish it. >> liz: here's wounded warroir, johnnie jones, sergeant johnnie jones. watch. >> you don't understand the i.c.e. agents and border patrol agents are the first attempt at compassion in this country that people attempting to cross the border intercept. the idea to paint these men and women as being evil and taking satisfaction in crushing people or whatever it may be is emotional and it's not founded in reason and if you can't separate your raw emotion from reasonable discussion, you've disqualified yourself from this conversation. you need to sit at home and think about what you've done and let the adults have the room. >> liz: steve, should cynthia nixon go down to the border and see what the bore door patrol -- border patrol agents have to contend with and should she sit

down with victims who lost loved ones to criminal illegal immigrants who killed them? >> yes. but it's not going to happen. she's making a political point here and she's basically as you saw in that clip, she's pandering. she's pandering to her base. she's running an election. she's not doing very well. there's lots of candidates up and down the country who have this position of abolishing i.c.e. it's pure pandering. there's no explanation as to what happens once you've got rid of i.c.e. then what is the problem with i.c.e.? they say the problem is they're enforcing the laws in a way they don't like. who else is going to do the enforcement? they're talking about no enforcement. it come back to one thing. there's an ideology on the left which is for open borders and anything that gets in the way of that, they don't agree with. >> liz: that's the back story, that it's the democratic party that has swung really far left and is about open borders. the democrats were not talking about open borders 10, 15 years

ago. now this, former obama homeland security secretary says, yes, that the obama white house did expand family detention centers. note, president obama did not separate families as much as happened over the last month, in terms of at this point in his presidency, but president obama deported way more people than this president has doubl done. maybe we shouldn't be comparing it that way. but that's what's happening. >> in 2014 to deal with the spike then with the families, we did a number of things including by the way working with the government of mexico and obtaining their cooperation on securing their southern border. but we also expanded family detention which was i freely admit controversial. we got a lot of heat for it. there were just 95 beds out of a tea toltotal of 34,000 equippedo handle families. we expanded that capability.

i will freely admit that i made a big deal out of it so that people could see what we were doing. >> liz: let me fix what i was trying to say before. under president obama and since the year 2000, illegal immigrant crossers were way on the rise. they have since dropped about 75%. but the point is, the media not really talking about how president obama expanded family detention centers. go ahead. >> that's right. because the underlying point here is, as i've said repeatedly, is hatred of trump. every issue comes back to that. there's not a reasonable analysis of what's gone on here, what's the policy, what's the right thing to do. it's all got to be about hating donald trump. now, within that of course it's true that it's clear that immigration policy has been a mess and the system's been a complete mess for decades and it still is. and it is now president trump who is there and in the white house and he and his team have to do something about it. >> liz: guess who president

trump sounds like? he sounds like president obama. he sounds like president clinton. he sounds like dianne feinstein and hillary clinton and john kerry and joe biden. all of them wanted stronger borders and harry reid, stop crossing the border illegally, all of them said that. go ahead, steve. >> that's exactly right. i would add another one to the list, the most recent bernie sanders. bernie sanders until he realized that the activist and the democratic base were not going to accepts it, even while he was running against hillary clinton, had an extremely strong position against immigration being uncontrolled for the economic reason that it undermines american workers and their wages and job opportunities. so it's completely hypocrite call. of course there's a serious problem here. as many people have said, the answer is to get together, to work together, to figure out finally a reform to this system that protects the border as well as protecting families and children. that's what everyone wants to see.

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>> liz: rhetoric getting out of control as the fire storm over what's going on at the border continues. first, president trump's 12-year-old son baron targeted on twitter. now the president's 4-year-old granddaughter khloe being threatened on social media. a canadian tv writer writing this about don trump junior's daughter, quote, we're coming for you too, khloe. the tv writer has since deleted his twitter account. my political panel joins me now. fox news contributor janine barelli and eric schiffer, good to see you both. >> hi, liz. >> liz: this month it is the one year anniversary of the shooting at the republican baseball practice that left congressman steve scalise severely wounded. a lot of heated rhetoric agitated the shooter. now this. the secret service is reportedly being not notified of a tv writs

post. how seriously should we take this kind of rhetoric? >> i think it should be taken very seriously, liz. this vial, vicious and vulgar comments that are launched against president trump, his family, and actually anyone that's associated with him, all of these comments should be taken seriously. how do we know that the people who are making these comments, this guy in canada, peter fonda, how do we know that someone won't actually act on these comments? i tell you, it's really reckless and it's dangerous what they are doing and i do believe they should be investigated at the very least. >> liz: actor james wood brought attention to the threat against the president's granddaughter saying, quote, this is exactly the kind of violence that has been i'm spired by peter fonda's tweet, the individual making the suggestive terrorist threat against the granddaughter of a president is a, in quotes, tv writer, which sadly makes sense

in today's twisted world of hollywood. do you think he has a point? >> look, i'm not sure that it's directed at the hollywood -- the movies, per se. what we do have are some pretty whacked out people. this kind of behavior is out of bounds and on behalf of trying to protect children, they're putting children's lives at risk and certainly threatening kids and sending a message to others that it's okay. this kind of stuff should be condemned. it's pathetic. but what's really sad is fonda, for instance, will probably get more work in hollywood because of it. it will actually probably help his career. >> liz: you will be back with us in just a bit. thank you for your insights there. next, a look back at our friend and colleague, pulitzer prize winning commen commentator and , charles krauthammer. >> read charles krauthammer's column in the post, he's a brilliant man. >> you know, when you get praise

from president clinton and you're from my side of the aisle, that means that my career's done. i mean, i'm toast. maybe npr will take me. they've got a spot where wanda williams used to be. yeaotherwise, i'm done.

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>> i'll take that, if you don't mind. >> i think he was calling me. >> he was definitely calling me. >> mars polander says what's the difference between a democrat and a socialist. >> a democrat is a socialist with a filter. >> are we going to fight like they did? >> no, no. >> i said here a week ago that it will snow in hell before the obama doj goes after hillary. i'm willing to entertain a belief in climate change. >> let me write that -- i'm going to tweet that right now, just that part. >> liz: from funny interactions about the passing of our friend charles krauthammer, a good man. the reaction is coming in from all corners of the country. colleague charles krauthammer died yesterday at the age of 68, two weeks after writing and

elegant letter to us all, stating in a way that only charles could, quote, i leave this life with no regrets. it was a wonderful life full and complete with a great love and great endeavors that make it worth living. i am sad to leave but i leave with the knowledge that i lived a life that i intended. let's bring in ed henry. great to see you. >> great to see you. you see those moments, this is a man who was a paraplegic. his life was changed forever at the age of 22 when he dove into a pool. he was at harvard university, going to medical school. he could have blown off medical school and said i've got new challenges. he passed with high honors and in the hospital room was on a projector was looking at all the materials for class and taking all the tests and you know how brilliant he was, clearly. you know how he overcame challenges you hear some of the clips like about hillary clinton and hell will freeze over before the justice department will ever do anything.

that was right a year or two ago. what about the lightning striking and hillary running. he had a sense of humor. i've got a bunch of stories about that, my interactions with him in washington. everything you're hearing about him, just a kind, decent man. >> liz: can you tell us some of the stories. >> i'm a baseball man. he was a big baseball fan. people don't realize he had a van that was jury-rigged and he used with his hands, to control it, so he could drive. he would leave the show and get to the van and i'd see him in the lobby of the building getting down to the garage, get himself into this van and i saw him driving it. he drove pretty fast and juan said it would be hairy and the washington nationals gave him a parking spot and he had wonderful seats. one time he would tell me that he had dinner with a baseball manager. he knew that like buck shol diss

sholwalter, he would tell me these stories. i told him i met tommy lasorda. he said the greatest story about him, 1978, three home runs, beats the dodgers, a reporter goes up and says what's your opinion of kingman's performance. lasorda says my opinion, he just hit three home runs, proceeds to use the "f" word many times in the next 90 seconds. charles krauthammer, he said ed, when i'm in my office, i'm trying to write a column, i'm having a bad day, i go to youtube and click on the audio of tommy l lasorda using the "f" word and i always smile. he found joy literally in the little things in life. >> liz: that's a great story. here's another funny moment that charles krauthammer shared on "the daily show." >> 30 years, do you ever look back on some of these writings and think what was i thinking?

>> it's worse than that. [ laughter ] >> the worst part of writing a book was going all the way back and reading the million words i've written. i couldn't believe i'd written some of that stuff. >> what's the growth process been like? >> the growth process? >> yes. >> i was once a liberal. [ laughter ] >> so the early writings showed hope? [ laughter ] >> and then came change. [ laughter ] >> liz: that's pretty witty. he did start out as a conservative democrat, right? >> yes, and was -- but was like kind of a new deal kind of democrat i think as he described himself and worked in the carter white house and was a speech writer for walter monday daily. -- mondale. to go in streamline' the lion'sn stewart.

one time i said keith hernandez is coming into town, into d.c., i'm going to have dinner, you juan to meet him. you know the greatest story, everyone says he was on seinfeld. he said one time he got into a fight and darryl strawberry punched keith hernandez. he said it was the only time darryl strawberry ever hit the cut-off man in his entire career. he was kind of a lazy outfielder. people kept saying he spoke in paragraphs which is true. he could go on that panel on any program and in 600 words bursts could be brilliant and he could also take a sentence about hillary clinton or barack obama or donald trump and in nine words eviscerate someone and with a smile. i heard some of the previous segments, the nastiness out there right now, this man took people on, challenged the powerful, did it with a smile. >> liz: and connecting via logic. >> he wasn't mean, he wasn't nasty.

>> maria: a good man, a compassionate man. good to see you, ed. thank you. friend, colleague, pulitzer prize winning commentator charles krauthammer dead at 68.

>> liz: billionaire elon musk's company, tesla, down today, in the red, down 3%. look at this, a major knockdown drag-out e-mail fight broke out between tesla's elon musk and a former worker tesla is suing for tasabotage. they allege a former employee allegedly stole massive amounts of secret data about tesla's manufacturing operations and gave it to third parties. now this wild e-mail fight broke out between musk and marty trip.

he e-mailed don't worry, you have what's coming to you. elon musk fired back, threatening me only makes it worse for you. and then the alleged victim responded i never made a threat, i told you have what's coming, thank you for this gift. let's bring in danine and eric back now. eric, your reaction to this wild e-mail fight. elon musk fired back, you're horrible, marty trip. go ahead. >> it's hard to know what's really going on. one thing that's clear is that tesla and musk, they take an aggressive stance with employees that are doing anything including employees that have left. in fact, one came to me for advice that started aurora and musk sued him and -- ultimately they dropped it. this is a tactic. it's interesting. this happened all before he had

announced to employees that he was having some sabateur that was doing this. it's almost as if he's trying to get in front of something that he's covering. there's missiles coming in from investors. he's under pressure right now to maneuver, to cut costs. he's not making the best decisions. this was not a good move, to engage with this guy. >> liz: should ceos be responding to angry ex-workers who they're suing? >> this is probably more ammo for that employee. but this is like a soap opera playing out. where's the popcorn? i needed a flow chart to follow all of the e-mails and the back and forth. but i've also been reading that there are issues with production, there are issues with timing, with the output of production and also there are harsh working conditions, some of the things i've been reading about. clearly there are a number of

issues that tesla is facing. we'll see how all of this plays out at some point. >> liz: it's a nasty fight right now. the lawsuit alleges that trip hacked the operating system. this guy, marty trip, alleges that his allegation is that tesla was putting punctured batteries in tesla vehicles. tesla adamantly disputes that. how does this all play out, eric? what do you think? >> i think that it will be nothing in a couple months. i think this will be a settlement. i don't think it's going to mean much. now, look, if there are games that tesla's doing, especially under the pressure to get out production, to not slow things down, that's going to come back hard on musk. but i can't believe he would be that dumb to put -- and that cruel to put people's lives at risk. i think that it's a bit over-confident in terms of some of the allegations. this will be gone within a month or two. >> liz: you know, elon musk is

seen as a visionary. he's got all sorts of ideas, people can fly and travel around the world in just one hour. so the fact that he is so under pressure and he's fighting with a former worker, to eric's point, it looks like the guy's under a lot of stress. >> yeah, this is all distracting to him as well in terms of being responsible for the company, the employees, the shareholders. so again, we'll see how this plays out. but this is front and center in the news. so it's not like he could just poo poo it away. >> liz: thank you for coming on. we appreciate you too. thanks again. we're going to be right back after the break. don't go away. ege. in 24 hours, you'll send him off thinking you've done everything for his well-being. but meningitis b progresses quickly and can be fatal, sometimes within 24 hours.

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