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curl -- and churches being demolished. a big, big day. we'll have an update on the horrific incident in maryland. now here is lou dobbs. lou: our top stories, five people killed in a shooting at amal his. a us -- at annapolis. a suspect in custody. police are tight lipped about the details and the motive for the shooting. we'll have live reports ahead. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and fbi director christopher wray facing a grilling on capitol hill about out of control bias and corruption at upper reaches of the fbi and department of justice. >> who are we supposed to believe? staff members we worked with who
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never misled us or you guys? lou: we'll have complete analysis of the days testimony. andrew mccarthy, we'll be hearing from him. and the mueller witch hunt continues to expand. now targeting, get ready, now targeting inauguration party attendees an aide to roger stone. fox legal analyst gregg jarrett joins us with his take on what the special counsel is up. a deadly shooting in a newsroom in annapolis maryland. police say the suspect this custody but not cooperating. fox news correspondent kristen fisher is on the scene. good evening, kristen. >> over the last hour or so we have seen a dramatic reduction
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in the amount of police vehicles on the street right behind me. this is really the clearist sign yet that we are moving into a new phase in this investigation and in this response which was a massive police presence as law enforcement was trying to contain what was happening and get the shooter. it's now shifted to the investigative side of things. this first call came in, the first calm of an active shooter came in at 2:30, 2:45. a gunman. we know it was a white male. we don't know what kind of gun except it was a long gun. he walked into the building of the capital gazette newspaper. the brown brick building with the numbers 888 on top. there is a lot of different businesses inside. but it appears the primary
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target was the capital gazette newspaper. this gunman showed up at the glass front door, shot at the glass, broke down the glass and went inside and began opening fire. people were hiding underneath the desk. the crime and court correspondent who covers these shootings all the time. he was inside at the time and described the horrific scene, the terror he said he felt was like nothing he ever experienced. and he hid underneath his desk while the shooting was taking place. he said at some point the gunfire stopped. within 60 seconds of him. >>ing fire, the first responders arrived on the scene. and that's what we are hearing so much of tonight. people talking about this incredible response, less than 60 seconds, these first responders were there. there were no shots fired. he was taken into custody.
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now he's being questioned. we are told he is not being koochtive. he didn't have an i.d. on him. it's difficult to tell who exactly he was. the big question is motive. why did he do this? did he have a grudge against journalists in general, was he unstable? was it politically motivated? we have nothing on motive except for the fact this is a local hometown newspaper. this is the kind of place you got your local sports from and local election from. now tonight five dead and believe three and seven we believe injured. lou: it's stunning four hours after this incident we don't have the name of the suspect. we don't have the motive. we don't have even a complete physical description, do we? >> nothing. it's been hard to even find
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people to talk to out here. typically when there is a school shooting and what not. you can interview the students and parents. we had a crew that we sent to the lord and taylor at the neighboring arundel mall. we weren't allowed anywhere near them. we couldn't find anybody to talk to. it's hard to get a sense for exactly why this person did what he did and hard to get a sense exactly what went down. we are going to be getting a little bit more information when we get our next briefing at 8:00. that's the latest we have heard. but one more thing that's been remarkable. in addition to this response time, the reason why the response time was so fast. under 60 seconds. how is that even possible. he says a lot of it has to do
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with location. you are right by this mall and this mall always has a fairly heavy police presence in case of events just like this. but the other thing that's truly remarkable. less than a week ago the anne arundel police trained for this type of thing to happen, and then it did. without a doubt it would have been a much more cat troughic and deadly event -- catastrophic event had the first responders not arrived when they did and gone in. we are told they had so much courage going in. did the victims all work at this newspaper? we have no idea about the identity of these victims, lou. lou: as you were talking about going over to the other location to interview people, who is it who prevented you from doing so? was it law enforcement?
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>> i actually was not with that crew that went or there. but to the best of my understanding it was law enforcement that were kind of guarding the perimeter and not letting the media in. it's unusual that we haven't been able to talk to more witnesses or hear from more witnesses. the people that were involved in this. the victims were journalists themselves. and their twitter accounts, exempt for one or two have been mostly silent. it's surprising we are not getting more information out than we have at this point in time several hours later. lou: surprising indeed. we'll be coming back to you throughout the evening. joining me now, fox legal analyst gregg jarrett. this one of the themes we are seeing in these incidents, whether they be shootings or whatever the time, we are becoming a little euro centric
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in law enforcement. at one time there was an honoring of the public's right to know. they worked hard, they being law enforcement and local authorities in particular to get the details out. the suspect, the victims, their names, identify them. there seems to be at work here as i say, sort of a euro centric approach to law enforcement and first responders to delay as long as possible, and it's frustrate together american public, i am sure. gregg: it is. and it's very surprising. this is a small town newspaper. it could be a disgruntled employee. it could be a domestic situation. or something they published but i find that hard to believe. annapolis is a pretty insular place. this is a small town newspaper.
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it's not that they were citing inflammatory writings. lou: to the credit of law enforcement. to arrive on the scene of the shooting within a minute is extraordinary. so many lives had to be saved as a result of their arrival. gregg: extraordinary work. and you compare it to other places, more recently there is an officer on the scene and he's hiding instead of going in to save lives. so this appears to have been a job bell done. though the details are admittedly scant and sketchy. lou: no rush to get us any information about what has happened or why. let's turn to the politics of
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the day as we continue to follow this. as the details emerge we'll be bringing them to you instantly on the shooting in annapolis. capitol hill in washington. wray and rosen tine, the director of the fbi and the director attorney general, christopher wray and rod rosenstein. there for what purpose? nothing was forthcoming. it's just one -- speaking of frustration. the lack of transparency and the presence of federal officials who are looking at their -- this is the house judiciary committee. they are look at those congressmen and basically saying be damned. we'll ignore the constitution. your interpretation about oversight is silly and we are not going to pay you any respect. gregg: rosenstein was dripping with disdain toward congress and
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their lawful right under the constitution to issue subpoenas and have rosenstein respond to them. this is a guy who struck me as utterly clueless when he said things like i know of no conflict of interest related to robert mueller. then he gave his own pat answer that if it's appropriate for me to disqualify myself, i will. rosenstein is the symbol of conflict of interest that demand recusal. he was interviewed a year ago this month by robert mueller as a key witness in the case and he provide over the case as mueller's boss it's in the federal statute, the code of federal regulations and the code professional responsibility that you must recuse yourself. lou: why has not a single republican aware of every aspect of this at the earliest onset of the special counsel, why did
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they not make a point of it immediately? gregg: there have been demand he recuse himself but rosenstein ignores those demand. this is the kind of stuff you get disbarred for. it's so mystifying to me. i thought trey gowdy set the tone when he said finish it the hell up. if you have evidence of collusion or obstruction of justice, present it to the grand jury, prit to the american people, otherwise shut the damn thing down. and i couldn't have put it better myself. lou: in point of fact we have been putting it exactly that way on this broadcast for over a year. over a year. and for him to suddenly join the party. this is the same trey gowdy who decide we would be so proud of the fbi in particular for.
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who is trey gowdy and which trey gowdy will show up at which public hearing in which sound bite. gregg: he could play si sybil ia movie. but he got it right talking to peter strzok and others in deposition. the funny thing that occurred today was when -- and i mean funny in the most of pejorative way. when rosenstein said strzok's behavior was inappropriate. talk about the understatement of the year. this is a guy hot inspector general said has a willingness to use and abuse his position to
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influence an election. lou: he was given by his superiors three critical opportunities to do so. at least two opportunities to do so when he was assigned to the russia collusion case. he was assigned to -- as well. the mid term exam if they decided to use a pseudonym. it's remarkable. the emscandal of the former secretary. gregg: there is only one, peter strzok and he taints all the investigation. lou: why in the world has the republican party en masse, particularly in the house, jim
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jordan, mark meadows, ron desantis, the list goes on. but for the most of part the republicans and the congress have allowed this to proceed without real, real response and affirmative support of the president. on a handful have been vocal and animated in their support of the president against this special counsel, fbi and justice department. gregg: it's bewildering and confounding that so many republicans have been sit opening their hands. it's only a handful or dozen that have been very active demanding responses and demanding accountability and transparency from the department of justice and fbi continue to obstruct. lou: devin nunes principal among those to bring truth to the
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forefront as best he can. gregg jarrett as always thank you. rumors swirling of another white house shake-up by summer. fake news or the truth? the dean ed rollins here to discuss it. our ongoing special coverage of the snrooght maryland in annapolis. a maryland newsroom. at many as five people dead. let your inner light loose
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the door. ed: when john kelly and the president decide it's going to happen, it will happen. kelly is not here for the long run. my sense is he's tired. that will be the decision of the president. this president is now very comfortable in how he runs his white house. lou: and how he runs the country. ed: it's not like some staff guy can come in and be the magical. he'll get what he needs out of the people who are there, and those who aren't there, he'll reach out. it's about him, not about anybody else. lou: i thought it was about the little daffodils, the rinos, and the snowflakes. people are having a fit because this great constitutional republic produced a president who does things.
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ed: he works 20 hours a day. i get worn out and i'm sitting in my living room watching it. he's a tireless guy and he's going to do what he wants to do. he has to get someone if he's going to change the chief of staff job get someone he's comfortable with. lou: he's going to do what he wants to do. he hasn't built a wall. in point of fact he has been frustrated by paul ryan and mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell won't get rid of the filibuster rule going into a critical confirmation of the man or woman he choose to be the next justice for anthony kennedy's seat. you go through the list here. he has been frustrated mightily. ed: that's by congress.
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>> congress and his own party. list goes on. >> he ruled over the party and it's now this party. congress has certain deutd duties. building the wall he has not given up on. lou: he's almost halfway through his first term. that was a sacred promise to his base. >> it should have been h.r.1, build the wall. lou: paul rino posed the president on every basis imaginable. he opposed the wall because he's an open borders accolade of every u.s. multi-national ceo. it's shameful. ed: what the president can do with his own power is effective. i'm sure he's going to appoint a fabulous judge across this country. and that will be a lasting
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legacy. he'll get his wall. mcconnell, ryan is going to be gone. mcconnell basically may not get -- lou: this will be a fascinating fight to confirm whoever the president chooses to replace. ed: it will be the most of brutal since bourke. lou: i love the fact ambassador john bolton sitting down with vladimir putin organized the date and place for the summit between vladimir putin and president donald trump. i think that's extraordinary. ed: there has not been one single leak out of that national security team. lou: john bolton would be bad man to test. ed: i think they will have a very important summit. lou: think about the idiots who don't want the president of the united states to talk with
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vladimir putin. what is wrong with the idiot left in this country? ed: it will be one tough guy on the opposite side of another tough guy and they will figure out what they want to move forward on. they need to be hall lies. he's the strongest he's been in his presidency by the poll numbers. lou: he's a strong fella irrespective. what did barack obama ever do? what did he ever do? he was considered by the national left-wing media a strong president. he was a daffodil who didn't like to work very much. ed: lead from behind. that was his policy. the reality is it will be an important summit. lou: my favorite expression was strategic patience. for a lazy administration, what
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they did, i mean, what a great rationalization for their demeanor and conduct and activity. great to see you. follow me on twitter @loudobbs. like me on facebook, follow me on insta a gram pat "lou dobbs tonight." another subpoena from special counsel robert mueller. this time the intrepid special counsel is targeting an aide to one of the president's key campaign advisors. this is viv thing stuff. he noticed there were some russians at the inauguration of donald trump. wow! one revelation after another. we have more coming straight at ya. thank you with us.
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recuse himself from oversight of the investigation of special counsel robert mueller. >> you wrote the memo saying that comey should be fired and you signed the fisa extension for carter page. my question to you is seems like you should be recused from this more so than jeff sessions because you were involved in making decisions affecting both prongs of the investigation. why vice president you done that? >> congressman if it were appropriate for me to recuse, i would be more than happy to do so and let somebody else handle this. but it's my responsibility to do it. lou: i've never seen a guy just absolutely jumping up as down in his chair as he's being asked a very, very important question that, as you may have noted, he didn't answer. we'd like to recognize great writing on this show and we do so occasionally. someone has written so eloquently on the bias at the fbi and justice department. andrew mccarthy writing in his
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june 23rd essay that we must look to trump and not trey gowdy. quote, i confessed, said andrew mccarthy in the national review, to being more weary than dizzy from the dr. gowdy and mr. just three weeks ago gowdy assured us that everything was peachy with the fbi. no way were no how did the bureau spy on the trump campaign when it deployed an informant to pry information from trump campaign officials. this week gowdy did a 180 back on the war path slamming the politically bias over quote prejudging the outcomes of the plin kon e-mails and trump-russia investigations. and delivering a chess beating bow that the house would use its full arsenal of constitutional weapons to get compliance with its subpoenas, a threat that includes holding recalcitrant
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fbi and doj officials in contempt. joining us now, the author ims andy mcconsider thy, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, national review contributing editor and fox business contributor. good to have you here. >> can i get you to read my columns on saturdays? that would be great. lou: i would -- you know what, i read all of your columns and not always on. >> i want you to read them to america. lou: we might be able to work that out. now i'm getting into the fee basis. >> okay. lou: it would be my pleasure anytime. this is extraordinary. trey gowdy suddenly decides it's time to wrap up the special counsel investigation. this is the same guy saying, as you note, we'd all be plowed to have a spy on a presidential campaign. this is crazy what's going on in washington. >> he's right that it is time to wrap it up. and i think that
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unfortunately -- and i can attest to this as a justice department person. when you're a prosecutor on a case or you're an agent doing an investigation you think of the most important thing on god's green earth is your investigation and there's nothing else. it really hurts the country to have the president governed under a cloud of suspicion. and unless there's strong evidence that he's implicated in a crime, they really should wrap it up, and pronto. lou: lots of us have been saying that for a very long time. and as you observe, point and press, this is bearing on the country. it bears on the president he talks about the frustration of not being able to do his job, to focus on the issues, whether it's north korea, whether it's russia, whether it's the economy, markets, international trade, balanced trade. think of the issues of great import to this nation's destiny
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and he has to put up with these people who have produced no evidence in over two years of investigation, combining the fbi and special counsel investigations. >> and i think the other thing, lou, is he has to be concerned about filling the slots in the administration with quality people and there are a lot of people who don't want to go down and serve even if they believe in the president's agenda if they think they're going to have to lawyer up in the next week. lou: lawyer up at their ex-pence. expense. could you stay for a few extra minutes here as we conclude? >> yes, of course. lou: andy mccarthy. up next, disturbing details emerging after a fatal local newsroom shooting in annapolis, maryland. a full report for you on that. and we're back with andy mccarthy on the mess in washington. stay with us. we'll be right back.
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as to prod an oversight committee, whether it be judiciary, whether it be intel. they've given the back of their hand snr i thin. >> i think they're frustrated. it's too bad that they smirked the way that they did at times, because i do think -- lou: ray i would fire just for his smug nonsense. >> you know, look. these guys are trump appointees. and they are being portrayed as the main culprits here. lou: they're telling everybody to go to hell. >> but in the meantime, the fact is the president could order them to release the documents. and i think from their standpoint, just to try to sit in their shoes for a second, the committee is saying to them, all of these people who are committing misconduct work for you. are you endorsing that. and the elephant in the room is. but they work for trump.
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and he could tell them release the documents. i get their frustration. lou: since you're empathizing deeply right now, which is always a wise thing to do, what could possibly be their motivation? why would they be conducting themselves this way? knowing the president could tell them to move ahead. >> i think to put the best face on it for them, they are trying to reestablish order at the justice department where we no longer talk out loud in public about noncharge people and evidence open information that shouldn't be shared with the public. and they don't want to be in a position of doing that themselves at the same time they're trying to crack the whip at their agency. and in the meantime, they feel like they've given over a million documents to these committees. now there's a lot of stuff that's been redacted, a lot of stuff that's been withheld. and the people doing the redacting and withholding do work for them.
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lou: do work for them. the president we're led to believe is not the target of this investigation. if this were to end up with the president charged, i think there would be hell to pay. >> you can only go by the way your antenna pinged. i got the impression today, and i've always thought this, the president is not going to be charged. it's been 18 months. he hasn't been charged. there's no obstruction case as a matter of law. there's no collusion of case. collusion is not even a crime. no such case as a matter of fact. and what i heard deputy attorney general rosenstein say today is he hears the need to wrap it up quickly and we wants to do so. we'll see. lou: it would be good to listen to that rare beam of common sense. good to have you here. andy mccarthy, thank you we're following the breaking news on that deadly shooting at
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the capital gazette newspaper in annapolis, maryland. five dead as we reported. more injured and wounded in the incident. authorities are now saying that the suspect mutilated his own fingerprints before carrying out the crime. we're standing by for a police news conference, that is to come up in about 17 minutes. fox news correspondent kristen fisher is live in annapolis and has the latest for us. kristen? reporter: yeah, lou. a truly bizarre development. we've been hearing all evening the dwunman, a white gunman, we don't know his age or his name. he's uncoop tiff with the police. part of the reason it's so difficult to identify him is what you just said. he had mutilated finge fingerti. we weren't sure why his fingertips were mut mutilated.
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did it do it himself. hid deperhaps gets injured during the shooting. we don't know at this point in time. but this is from our chad program who is a very well-sourced producer on capitol hill. that's why this is so tough to id him. this shooter came here about 2:30, 2:45 this afternoon. and one of the other thing we're hearing is he also left behind what police thought was an explosive device. nobody was injured from the explosive device. it shows you a little more of the mind-set behind the shooter going into this event. we know five dead. the number of injured has been fuzzy. we've heard anywhere from three to seven though the mayor of annapolis just talked to us and he says he believes the number of injured is closer to three than seven. he also gave us a bit more information about the newsroom himself. describing it as an open newsroom and that's important because really the only place to hide was underneath the desk.
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and that is what the employees did and that's why it was so critical that these first responders arrived as quickly as they did. we're told within 60 seconds they were on the scene engaging with this suspect. there was no exchange of gun fire, though. they brought him into custody and now they're questioning him, though we're told he has not been that cooperative. next update, lou, 8 p.m., we're hoping to get a bit more on motive. the big question here. lou: thank you very much for bringing us that. and we will, of course, be going to at the top of the hour for that news conference by law enforcement. thanks so much. joining us now, gina louden, little analyst, member of the president's media board and mark simone. good to have you both here. >> good to be with you. lou: let me start, gina, first of all. instantly today, nancy pelosi, the minority leader, democratic minority leader in the house talking about gun control
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without knowing the name of the suspect, having any identification, motivation, the context, the purpose. i mean it's just extraordinary the reflexive response of the left in this country whenever there's a shooting. >> it really is sad, lou. because, you know, people's lives are completely destroyed today. and her thoughts and prayers should have been with the victims. and she shouldn't have seized upon the opportunity to politicize this. but this is further illustration, lou, that the left is entirely desperate at this point. their party is falling apart. and we've seep more an seen more evidence of this as they've continued to condone heinous acts and words and just not to take responsibility for conceiving a platform in some candidates for the midterms in 2020 instead of trying to hurt other people. i don't get it. lou: mark simone. >> they think so little of their
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base. they yell out catch phrases, gun control, climate change, net neutrality. we don't even know what that one is. gun control, it has nothing to do with this. this is mental patient control. we don't know exactly what the problem is here. but in many cases it's somebody mentally disturbed, they're put on the psyc psychotropic drugs t make them go crazy. lou: and we're waiting. it's going to be -- at the same time i'm very disturbed by law enforcement's inability or unwillingness to share as much as possible as quickly as possible with the american public. the public's right to know is preimminent in this country. and now law enforcement -- i don't know whether it's because the fbi is playing such a large role in local law enforcement response. but this business of just not sharing what's going on with the
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american people, this should have been immediate to me, the fact that they have not identified the victims of this shooting. it's deeply troubling. but we're going to be bringing you more on that and we will, of course, throughout the evening, be bringing you more on that. i want to turn now to justice kennedy and his, his announcement of his retirement at the end of next month. the question becomes, how in the world could the left go any more crazy than what we've witnessed in their response. i don't know if we have the daily news headline. do we have that up in graphic form? if we don't, let's get it. here it is. the only thing i could say about that is that the daily news at least knows who they are. and it's just, to me, ridiculous the way in which they have
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responded. your thoughts, gina. >> it's trump derangement syndrome to the extreme, lou. i really never thought we would get to a place in our history where before the president has even mentioned who he might want in that slot on the supreme court. they're already vowing to go as low down as dirty as they possibly can. and that's because they lost every fight. the russia collusion thing is completely off the table, been disproven. they're losing seats all over the place. no candidates, no platform and they're completely desperate. but what they need to do is circle back and try something different than the constant attack, the constant trump derangement and the con strant, yoconstantnastiness that we've o expect from the left at this point. lou: mark, the last word. >> first step is meeting with the senators. they'll never schedule the meetings or hold them.
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live police briefing on the deadly shooting in annapolis, maryland. we'll be bringing that to you and much more on the story throughout the evening. joining us now is congressman keith rof fis. he serves on the house committee on financial services. he was at the testimony of rod rosenstein and christopher wray, the fbi director today as well. great to have you with us nlt >> good to be with you, lou. lou: if i may, your reaction to the performance, if you will, of these two officials who seem to me at least, as i watched, to be giving the back of the hand to your committee, to the concept of congressional oversight of the fbi and the department of justice period. >> yeah, you look at the context in which this happened. we just had a massive report put
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out by the inspector general who found many problems at the fib i and we've been waiting months for documents. a number of us were asking questions when they're going to get the documents. we passed a resolution in the house today insisting that the documents be turned over. and it's interesting because the department of justice, for example, they issued a subpoena, would that be con felt with the subject of the subpoena coming back saying we'll give you what you need or we'll give you what's legitimate. and that's what i heard today from the witnesses. and i asked the deputy attorney general, you know, who is the arbiter of what's our l legitime oversight. are they going to decide what we need to see? no. we've asked for the documents. we have a constitutional oversight responsibility and authority to do this. and they need to provide these documents. again, look at the context of the whole investigation, you look at what peter strzok was going, you look at the ig report and how the there were political influences in there, the way way
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was conducting the investigation. lou: in support of all that you're saying, one of the things that struck me, as i went through those e-mails -- and not all of them certainly. i mean, you're talking about 50, 60,000 e-mails in total, particularly when page and strzok. and there's not one, there's not one in which somebody is talking about either love or lust or -- there's no foundation at all for this business about they were lovers. this is all politicized garbage being spread around the, you know, the internet by these two and through the channels of the fbi and the department of justice. and nobody knew what was going on? are you kidding me?
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it's just. >> it's hard to believe. lou: it is. >> and you certainly know that andy mccabe should have known what was going on. he was in the room when they had discussion of an insurance policy in 2016 and this is right after peter strzok said he had unfinished business because of the exam. beginning the russia investigation. clearly they were tainted -- peter strzok was, anyways, with what he was doing in that investigation. lou: and you talk about the insurance policy. there's a reference gene by agay strzok to quote we'll stop him. >> which we just found out about in the inspector general report. that's one of the texts that somehow was never handed over. lou: and we know there are over 600,000 e-mails that have been collected as well and nobody seems to be curious about it at the department of justice with the anthony weiner laptop. you know, no one is answering
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these questions. and with all of this business about collusion of the russians, where the heck is the dnc server that was hack bid the russians and why don't we have first hand first party knowledge and examination of that server rather than a third party democratically oriented crowd strike as the source for -- they've outsourced their investigation on something this critical? it's mindless. >> well, you look at the whole context of the special counsel working on the investigation now with russia. you know, i asked, why wasn't there a special counsel for the clinton e-mail scandal. lou: right. >> you can go back 20 years when lou free looked at the campaign scan scandal in the "90s. janet reno kept anytime the justice department. here with the clinton e-mails,
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attorney lynch should have appointed a special counsel a couple of years ago to take a look at this but she did not. lou: she saw it as only a matter, not a matter for an investigation. >> then she had the meeting with president clinton on the tarmac. so again, she should have recused herself in this whole exercise. lou: yeah. you know, one way or the other everybody at the top of the fbi has been demoted, replaced, fired. we've never seen the like of this, as congressman jim jordan points out, congressman, and everybody in the national left wing media is acting like it's another day at the park scratching their heads. what's all of the curiosity about. it is truly mind-boggling. do you think we're actually going to see congressional oversight of the department of justice and the fbi? because frankly, your leadership has shown a propensity for great
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courage or principle on this matter. >> well the leadership brought today to the floor the resolution that we passed and they will have seven days, the department of justice, to turn over the documents we're asking for. then we have to look at contempt proceeding. it is incumbent upon the department of justice, the fbi to happened over the documents. as andy mccarthy was saying earlier, you wonder what's it going to take to get an order to have these released. do we have to go to a contempt, do have to go to the u.s. attorney -- lou: think about it, congressman. this has been going on, taking the most recent request from house oversight judiciary, they've told both committee to go to h hell since last fall. >> compare to how quickly they jumped to conclusions in the e-mail investigation two months before they interviewed mrs. clinton, they're writing the exoneration memo.
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