barely holding on to an eight-day win streak. we have to see how it comes down. [closing bell rings] the nasdaq is up just under four point as we hear the bells ring. that will do it for the "claman countdown." thanks for joining us. i will see you tomorrow. david: one index out of three ain't too bad but the dow diving in the final hour of trading, slipping for the second day. it is down about 75 points right now. it is near session lows. it may recover a little bit. red for s&p 500 but the nasdaq is fighting to end in the green. this would mark the 8th straight day of gains. longest winning streak in 10 months for the index. tesla, taking new hits today. the latest on elon musk's cities to possibly take the company private. his answer insurance to ininvestors -- assurance to investors hears all the secure funding he needs for that. melissa: i'm melissa francis. this is "after the bell."

here is what we're covering this very busy hour. any moment now president trump will sit down with state leaders to hold a roundtable discussion on prison reformone of the rare occasions we'll hear from the president this week as he spends time in bedminster new jersey. we'll have breaking headlines from president trump. vice president mike pence from the pentagon revealing plans to establish a space force by 20 to. coming up we'll speak with famed astrophysicist, my son's hero, neil degrass tyson, why this move is necessary to keep america safe. millions are fleeing. you know ambassador nikki haley in is south america to witness the growing crisis in venezuela of the coming up this hour we'll speak to marc lotter former press secretary for vice president mike pence and

ron paul and gregg jarrett. a great show. david: it is still double digits down. it could be worse and nasdaq looks to stay in the green, nicole. >> that's right. when you see the nasdaq in the green, inching closer to record highs. a quarter of a percent away to record territory the nasdaq. s&p 500 with the minimal move is still about half a percent away from record all-time highs. we're seeing stocks hitting new record highs. earnings season has been good news. that continues to bring optimism people are waiting for headlines. it is quiet and president trump on vacation to certain extent at least. we haven't seen much movement. it is about earnings that we've been seeing. that being said, the big picture, looking at, by the way, goldman sachs, ibm, boeing, shaved off 40 points off the dow a little bit earlier today. those were some of the laggards as the dow dropped 74 points.

i mentioned new highs, put amazon in there. amazon hits 1914, that is a new all-time high for the stock. people are back and hot on tech again. then the tribune and sinclair. they stop the merger and sued their broadcast rival. both are up 2 1/2% roughly. you had movement on that news. last but not least on cbs-viacom interesting enough, some of sumner redstone's trust is restricting option for cbs and viacom, doesn't want to make it easy for his family in the controlling stake. cbs you have 3/4 of 1%. david: nicole, thank you. melissa. melissa: economists surveyed by "the wall street journal" see u.s. growth hitting 3% this year. that is up slightly from last month. it is up from 2.4% from a year

ago. let's bring in today's panel, dominic tavella, and keith fitz-gerald. thanks to both of you for joining us. keith, i will start with you? what do you think of that idea. is 3 percent kind low? >> i don't put much stake in what economists saying. they missed every transition, let's loan rates or this kind of thing. to me it is about the ceos and guidance. those guys play with real money and profits. it is good news and i don't think you should wait as heavily as people might. melissa: dominic, is it about seeing the future or knowing what will happen with the tariffs? >> tariffs will play a big part of this. we saw this last quarter we got a four plus gdp number. part of that was embedded for future sales of crops that went off to china. that number will slow down in the third quarter. they will not be able to sell as

much. that will affect gdp for the third quarter. but i still expect it to be well over 3%. melissa: go ahead. david: guys, stick around. the dust-up over elon musk continues. does musk really have the secured funding he claims to have to take the company private? i think banks are responding to surprising news. hillary vaughn is with us. what can you tell us? reporter: sec is curious just as the rest of us. where is elon musk getting the mystery funding and is he being honest with investors? "wall street journal" reports that the sec san francisco office is fact-checking the ceo's plan to take the company private t could come under a investigation if musks's tweets were in any way misleading when he said funding is secured. all he needs now to make tesla going private reality is a shareholder vote but there could be some more hiccups down the road for the car company.

goldman sachs says the ceo may need to raise cash even if he is able to hold on to some of his investors. goldman writes we see potential issues, tying the shareholder base to this type of private structure as there may not be enough are quaidty for large institutions within the current fund ownerships. elon's pursuit of going private could be schtad in the short term if the source of the funding sparks more questions from regulators there. is no idea or indication where elon's stash of cash to go private is coming from. the day he announced his intention to go private, a saudi arabia wealth fund bought a 2 billion-dollar stake in the company. a person i spoke to familiar with se crop regulations, very common for shareholders to sign off on a public company boeing private but they need to wait a year or more before regulators give i the green light. all this may not be happen as

quickly as ceo hopes it would. david. keith,. david: keith he has to put his cards on the table. do you think he can specify where the so-called secure funding is coming from? >> that is a very, very interesting question. i think he can. this is one of those guys you don't want to bet against. love him or hate him is immaterial. i think he continually goes after the naysayers and puts it right back in their face. i think he has access to funds somewhere but boy, i'm scratching my head with where that is. david: dom, if he made this up he is in a lot of trouble. sec regulate not only people who buy stocks but people who bet against stocks. the people who bet on tesla lost $2 billion. if they lost the money based on false information, if he said he had secure funding and he didn't, he is this trouble?

>> dave, i can assure you what is going on in the high-yield bond market today, what is going on in the private equity market, there is tons of money out there searching for place to go, serving for yield. david: do you think he actually has secured funding of $80 billion? >> this is minor point but having the ability to get the money and actually having it secured are two very different things i think that is what the sec is going to focus on. david: quickly i have to ask you, keith, does he have it or not? >> i think he has got it but it may not be what everybody thinks. probably come from an unusual source, one or more sovereign wealth funds. my guess saudis or chinese. david: keith, dom, thank you very much, guys. good to see you both. melissa: day two of talks with the nafta deal. edward lawrence live at the u.s. trade representative's office with the latest of the edward. reporter: melissa there is a lot

going on. the u.s. trade representative is in a meeting with the japanese delegation, the japanese tell mitigation led by minister of economic policy. he is looking for a fair trade deal with japan, something the u.s. would also like to see. this morning very busy here at the u.s. trade representative's office. the mexican delegation met for more than two hours. the mexican economic minister saying that they are as close as possible to a nafta deal. >> i'm going to be in washington tomorrow. we still have proposals coming back and forth. >> are you hopeful? >> i'm constructively engaged. reporter: and there you heard it, constructively engaged. they worked on a number of different issues, three big ones to be specific. rules of origin for a car. the u.s. would like 75% of a car built in north america to fall under nafta. the amount of a car being builtly labor making $16 an hour and sunset clause.

u.s. would like nafta to end in five years. the mexicans would like reassessment of nafta numbers five years because companies need to make long-term plans and big capital investment. the u.s. agriculture chief negotiator saying that they are also very close to a deal in nafta. in fact my sources say after the deal is made with the mexicans, it is going to be taken to the canadians to see if they would like to sign on or be left out in the cold so to speak. i'm also told by the sources and the president has said in the past he would be happy with just a bilateral agreement. however obviously nafta would be much better for him and all the countries involved. melissa: interesting. great stuff, edward. thank you. david: new charges of censorship at twitter. why ron paul says the social media giant is trying to silence libertarians. the former congressman is here to explain. melissa: boldly going where the military has not gone before. the white house revealing plans for a space force at the

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david: may the space force be with you. vice president mike pence unveiling white house new plan for sixth branch the u.s. military called the space force. blake burman from the pentagon with all the details. >> mike inches came from the pentagon, when it comes to space we need to be bold and creative. to that end the vice president announced administration desires and plans to create eventually a sixth branch of the united states military, which would be called indeed the space force. to boil this all down,

essentially why is this protecting our satellites up in outer space. the vice president identified north korea and iran, especially russia and china as adversaries. >> both china and russia have been conducting highly sophisticated on orbit activities could enable them to manuever satellites to close proximity of ours, posing unprecedented new dangers to our systems. >> the united states air force already has a space command. there are 30,000 members snatched to it. that is pretty sizable number, considering about 10% of the air force. critics say the proposal is simply redunn tant. last summer the defense secretary jim mattis is against a similar measure at the time he wrote the following, quote, this was letter of congress. quote, because our army, navy, air force and marines have their own equities maintaining vital space operations a properly integrated approach is better for carrying out this mission.

mattis is now behind the administration's plan. he says the threat in space is real? >> becoming a contested war-fighting domain and we have got to adapt to that reality. it is on par with the air, land, sea and cyberspace domains. >> now the vice president, david said they are hoping to roll out the space force by 2020. there is time when this would come into play. if this sixth military branch ends up coming into play, it would require congressional approval. there is a long way to go here as the folks on capitol hill will eventually have their say. david: blake, thank you very much. we want to remind you later this hour, astro physicist neil degrass tyson will respond to the white house's plan. should be fun. melissa: my son is watching. the biggest fan. sending a warning to the gop, "the wall street journal" has a message republican won't want to miss.

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i want underline this in book publishing that is the take away. most analysts were looking for 432 million. book publishing revenue came in 490 million. go to digital retail estate services what analysts were looking for. realtor.com is probably the best known company under that business unit. david, looks like a strong quarter. back to you. david: because of gregg jarrett's book. that's why. melissa. melissa: samsung unveiling a new smart phone at the company's unpacked event in new york city but it won't come cheap. susan li with the details. susan? >> yes. techies like myself converging in brooklyn to check out samsung's latest offering. it is not cheap. it is expensive galaxy note9. you get expensive processing, bluetooth pen, but could go up

to 1250. that is a lot for a new phone. it has the tech world going wild, a introduction of a home speaker. that means they could be going head-to-head with amazon and google. this will be released before christmas. updates before november. another update was a new watch, a new wearable, branded as galaxy watch. also partnerships. this is something samsung is criticized for competition with apple. they don't have ecosphere apples that why you stick with iphones. they have announced a exclusive partnership with "fortnite." it generates a billion dollars in revenue. 125 million players around the world. samsung, galaxy note9 will be the first android to offer it for four days. they have had daniel ells spotify ceo, talking about a

partnership with samsung in the future. they recognize these need to add more, go up the value change, to get customers to stay with samsung devices in the future. guys, back to you. melissa: how much are they able to fort knight away from apple. that is the driving force -- "fortnite." it is not just kids. it is a bunch of adults. it has taken over from mine craft. >> i am a gamer, "fortnite" gamer myself. melissa: are you, wow. >> yeah, i am. i am. okay. so the way they took it away pro apple. they're not actually taking it away from apple. it is not offered from android until now. galaxy note9 is first android to offer it. this is win for them. melissa: shows you i'm not a "fortnite" gamer. i know everyone else around me

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socialist policies making a total mess of a country once overflowing with petrodollars. one million refugees fled to colombia in the past year-and-a-half. our united nations ambassador nikki haley visiting the colombian border today, announcing $9 million in venezuelan aid. rich edson with the latest. reporter: they are fleeing venezuela by the tens of thousands every day, into colombia. we were at the border town in colombia. it is right across from venezuela. that is where a number of folks will cross. some will stay in colombia. some move on to other countries. many eat, get their medicine, return to venezuela at night. we spoke with one woman who said she has chosen to live on the streets in colombia, over staying in venezuela. >> translator: like i told you there is a big crisis. we have shortage of food and medicine. children are dying because of

the shortage of medicine. the senior citizens are dying because of the shortage of medicine. we can't find food. everything is overpriced. and that is why the majority of venezuelans are fleeing the situation. reporter: we traveled with u.n. ambassador nicki haley. she pledged additional nine million dollars of u.s. aid, on top of $60 million. she blamed president nicolas maduro of crisis. he said is well past time for him to step down. >> there is more to do. what we're trying to do here. we'll raise as many people who can. if we, if the venezuela don't get help they will get killed. we need people to hear. we need countries to hear. reporter: maduro persists. the number of venezuelaians we spoke to say the government is cracking down even more on citizens after a failed

assassination attempt this past weekend. melissa, david, back to you. >> wow, what a story. rich edson, thank you. >> the real story the case will not fizzle. it will blow up on them. the real question is what we talked about before. there is a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. david: nobody knows about it yet. what exactly was rudy referring to? gregg jarrett, former attorney, fox news anchor, the author of the book i hold in my hands, the russia hoax, the illicit scheme to frame trump. >> what i believe is abuse of power like people like comey and peter strzok, lisa page, andrew mccabe, others including bruce ohr at the department of justice, who use their positions of power to subvert the rule of

law and undermine the democratic process. the law enforcers became the lawbreakers, and i identify the various crimes i believe they have committed. david: gregg, with all deference to your book, it's a terrific book, it is and should be a best-seller, he says specifically this is somebody nobody knows about yet. so he is referring to something that apparently wouldn't have been known, either to you or anybody else. that makes me think that there is something that he has that nobody else has right now? >> sure. i think we only know part of the story. i don't know who he is referring to. but, giuliani is out there making a very valid case to try to counter the drumbeat daily of media which convicts the president in the court of public opinion. this is working to some extent. the longer the mueller probe goes on, the more americans turning against it. look at latest poll, vast majority of americans believe

mueller's investigators are unfair, and that his investigation itself is un, not only unfair, but it is not neutral. it is partisan-driven is it not only the way they go after trump. it is the way they didn't go after hillary clinton. you would think of all the cases of evidence for at least as much evidence for collusion with hillary as there is for trump. the work with fusion gps. >> sure. >> which was directly in touch with russian agents that were feeding disinformation into this trump dossier. the clinton foundation, all the money they were taking during her term in office as secretary of state. of course related to that, uranium one. >> the investigation into the clinton foundation was a charade. it wasn't legitimate, and real. but, you know, hillary clinton violated a multitude of felony statutes, and, james comey, stood in front of cameras,

twisted the facts, contorted the law to clear her. on that very day his fbi is meeting secretly in a building in london with christopher steele who is on the clinton payroll and the fbi payroll, armed with the dossier that he phonied up, that was the pretext for the trump-russia investigation. david: the real collusion may not will be with russia. it may be between the deep state and the clinton campaign. i have to ask one thing because there is a strange relationship between the president and his staff, the staff that he can either appoint or fire at the department of justice. top among them rocked rosanna, - rod rosenstein, the man who appointed robert mueller. gave all the rope mueller has. "wall street journal" has an interesting story today, trump warms to rosenstein. what's that all about? >> trump is playing the hand he

has. at the department of justice, it is not a very good hand. he realizes that he has to do the best he can to get along with sessions and rosenstein until he eventually fires them after the probe. and so, you know, rosenstein may be getting played here by the president, only time will tell. david: gregg, i'm not going to do the phony tv thing, hey, i read your book and i love it, i just got your book. i haven't read it yet. i can't wait to read it. thank you for giving me a copy and dedicating so nicely. >> i should give one to melissa. melissa: i am feeling very left out. >> i'm so thoughtless. i will get one to you immediately. david: we can't wait, gregg. thank for being here, appreciate it. melissa: "wall street journal" editorial board says president trump's red wave prediction might be an illusion. mark -- marc lotter, trump 2020

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melissa: the red wave or blue wave? new warning for republicans in the "wall street journal." the red wave illusion, evidence is building in major gop losses in november. marc lotter, a member of the trump 2020 advisory board, former press secretary of vice president mike pence. i think it is interesting what people want to see and what happened on tuesday. it is like a rorschach test what you want to happen. "wall street journal" editorial board. they make good points, about the number of people support 33%, roughly, very much support him. 11% have a doubt about his persona. but they put the policies first. they say there is another 10% that emphasize his persona. they disapprove of the job performance because they don't like the way he is doing things.

that is of the group that you know, on the whole supports him and doesn't hate him on the democratic side. what do you think of those numbers? >> you can parse the numbers anyway you would like. the numbers that i typically try to look at, the right track, wrong direction. at beginning of the year, the difference between the people who thought the country was on the right track and wrong direction was 25%. right now it is only 10%. so people see that our country is moving in the right direction. the president's approval ratings on the economy are plus 8%. those are the kinds of things, when people to to the polls, they're faced with the actual decision between a republican candidate who wants to keep your tax cuts, keep our economy growing, or democrats who are running towards socialism, higher taxes, more government spending and programs, that is a pretty easy case to make. we just need to make sure we get people out there to vote. melissa: i just wonder, a lot is turnout. i wonder if you sort of look at this in a way the candidates

should be running themselves, perhaps, if you it is a right track, wrong track thing, people are offended by the president himself is, if you're sort of, i'm in favor of his policies, but i would like to rein in a little bit of the craziness. that might be the sweet spot, whether republican or democrat. what do you think? >> democrats are running as far left as they possibly can. melissa: not all of them. not all of them. we've seen a bunch trying to go straight up the middle, to pick off some of the trump support. go ahead. >> they will also be tied to some of the other party, because remember their party is led by maxine waters and nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and now you've to the one of the loudest voices out there, self-avowed socialist out of new york. so many of the candidates, the democrats candidates will have to defend how they think about those positions. but, ultimately, people are going to go to the ballot box. it is like james carville used to say back in the '90s, it's the economy, stupid. they will see the benefits. they see things happening in

their own households, with their own jobs and their own communities. the key for republicans is to get out there, tell that message to the people, and remind them that democrats are running to take it away. melissa: democrats say, they're running for free medicare, you know, free health care, is about doubling everyone's taxes in order to pay for it. that wouldn't even do it. is that the kind of economic message, is that too complicated? are you saying you are better off now, is it that simple? >> combination of vote. many are calling to reverse tax cuts. calling for tax increases for medicare for all. they're calling for abolish i.c.e. which most of the american people don't see that would be a good idea for very right reasons. so, that's really election will come down to. we can look at generic polls and generic trends, try to read one election to see if it holds any truth to another election, but when it comes down to november, people will have two names on

the ballot, they will have two parties and two philosophies. one continuing that growth, continuing our success. i guess the other one, take us away abolish i.c.e., impeach the president, fairly clear which way most americans will vote on that. melissa: marc lotter, thank you. david: trying to silence liberty. that is how libertarians are talking about crackdown on so-called hate speech. twitter say they have suspended several libertarian accounts, including ron paul, institute director daniel mcadams. here is dr. ron paul, former texas congressman and host of the ron paul liberty report. dr. paul, good to have you here. we have heard that mr. mcadams twitter account is back on. we tried to contact twitter. they have not returned our calls. have they made any attempt to explain their actions or

apologize or to you or mr. mcadams? >> not to me. he was put back on there with some type of apology bit but i don't remember the wording. it was associated with a form of apology. that they put him back on. david: do you think it was mistake be or deliberate effort to silence you guys? >> i think, probably both. they're deliberately attacking, many libertarian conservative constitutionalists. that is common practice. they do make mistakes, they overshoot, daniel mcadams didn't tweet anything. he promoted something. somebody else said something he retweet he it. i guess his guilt level was lower, they decided they might be, maybe public pressure still helps because we did get some attention on the websites people like you and others talk about could they be targeting constitutionalists and

libertarians, i do think that helps. i think it was maybe helpful for maybe, facebook reassessing their tools and their techniques on how to pick and choose who gets to be who is promoted on website. david: there are all the algorithms. you know this very well, kind of alert organizations like twitter or facebook or whatever, to what they call hate speech. but i can't think of anything in the libertarian jargon that would do that, can you? >> no. as a matter of fact, and i know you understand the message, because it is built on non-violence, nonaggression. david: that's right. >> many times we cite martin luther king because he was a peaceful person that defended his positions and did not advocate violence. david: for those not familiar with it. conservatives very often chide you libertarians being too soft on things like defense. if anything it is more peaceful

message than most conservative websites t does lead one to question whether, an entire generation that is now dependent on social media is being kind of led by the nose by editorialists at twitter or at facebook who don't believe in what you espouse, that is strong support of the free market and a condemn condemn -- condemnation of socialism. into what you talk about is a real challenge to us. i talk about on my program. first off, do they have a right to do this. we would argue they are private and they monitor and my web page, i can keep people off if they're ugly and nasty, but the question is, are they getting any support from the government? that is where i come down on the side, yes they do. they accommodate the government. they provide information to the government. they get money indirectly when it was developed. they get advertisement from the government. facebook has just decided they use atlantic council people to

help them sort this out and find out who should be censored and who should be not. look at the atlantic council. is big government organization. who give as lot of money to it? facebook. that is a facade. facebook said if somebody disagrees we'll send them to the inspectors that we're hiring to sort this out. david: censors. some people call them inspectors. you and i would call them censors. i'm short on time, but got to ask you do you think rise of people like owe -- ocasio-corted peel to millenials because you have editors or censors working for social media sites? >> i think partially is the case but i'm not going to give the socialists too much credibility. yeah there was an election won. we do some talking to young

people, i find out a lot of people don't buy into that. so sometimes the polling i guess, really get to the young people, do they sort of like this idea of peace and prosperity, right? that we advertise for. people, you know, what i always say is, young people at the age of 18 don't all of sudden get up and want big government, more taxes and poverty and we need another war. young people don't volunteer and march forward. ideas have consequences. they're very, very powerful. said they can't be stopped by armies. i go how powerful media and social networks are, if you have a good idea and it is right, i believe we can win the fight. david: love your optimistic attitude. dr. paul, always a pleasure. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> real life "star wars." revealing details of president trump's space force. famed fist sis it neil degrass tyson reveals why this branch of

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melissa: the space force is preparing for liftoff. vice president mike pence announcing a new branch of the u.s. military. joining me to react, my son's hero, neil degrass tyson. a famed astro physicist, author of a brand new book, accessory to war. thanks for joining us. do you think this is the right idea, or is it science and space better left in the private hands of elon musk and yourself? >> well, the concept of a space force is not new. plus, as a thing to do, we've done something like this before. you might remember, you wouldn't remember, you might have read, that during the second world war the army had a branch of itself

called the army air force and once we learned that this theater of operations, this sphere of operations had fundamentally different needs, different training, different technologies, different personnel required to operate in that space, if you will, the air force then, split away from the army and became its own branch. this need, is in response to the fact that space in particular, lunar space, sort of new word for many people, the space between the earth and the moon, to the extent we conduct business in space, activities in space, we have billions of dollars worth of assets in space, generally one of the tasks of the military -- protect our assets. so, in that sense this idea is not completely crazy. and it has been around for a while. melissa: so what you do i this

mission should be? sounds like you're in favor of it? do you like the idea? do you like the way it is being rolled out? >> i don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. i know there are military folk in the air force who are perfectly content to be umbrella to u.s. space command. all space activities right now are under the air force. so, generally i'm not one to second-guess generals but, you know, the extent that if we make a space force, what i would like to do is add a couple of things to its portfolio. why don't you check out asteroids to see if one has our name on it, and could render us extinct. don't just tell us that we will become extinct. do something about it. right now there is no plan in place anywhere in the world to protect us against killer asteroids. or the threat of space debris, interfere with commerce or any other kind of operation. space has been militarized ever since we sent, we, the world, we

and the soviet union sent intercontinental ballistic missiles through it. icbms use space to get to their destination. then we have reconnaissance satellites in the service of the military. we've been in space for 50 years, 60 years. so, this would simply be a bureaucratic addition to the u.s. government, that might think that is odd given coming under republican administration who liked to thing government. that is point not often discussed. but the fact is, if that can help focus those activities i don't see a problem with it. but you have to ask, there are other frontiers that are rising up. for example, cyber. should there be a cyber force, all right? the conduct of war is changing. melissa: yeah. >> and so, that could open some conversations that needed to be had over these past decades. melissa: i wish we had more time, sir. thank you so much for joining us.

we really appreciate it. neil degrass tyson. >> thanks for having me on. david: need an hour with him. he has a lot to say about all these issues. melissa: i didn't even ask him about quantum physics. that is what i was supposed to ask him about. david: for your son. i figured. a business built behind bars. we'll tell you of an incredible story of an ex-con turned entrepeneur. you don't want to miss this, coming up. : : :

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