the campaign finance violation, the big one. melissa: happy birthday. connell: yeah, happy birthday. the idea he did it at the direction of a candidate, presumed to be the president. melissa: bail of half a million dollars? connell: half a million dollars. melissa: i'm exhausted. here's "the evening edit." john: the jury in the paul manafort case finding donald trump's former campaign chairman guilty on eight of the 18 charges against him. we will bring you all the details. president trump's former personal attorney michael cohen just striking a deal with prosecutors, pleading guilty to multiple counts of campaign finance and bank fraud and tax evasion. the deal includes three to five years in jail. we will bring you all the details. the stock market is about to become the longest bull run in american history driven by a strong u.s. economy. the jobless rate at an 18-year low. how long can it last? we will debate. president trump heading to west virginia for a rally tonight.

fox business will bring it to you live. thank you for joining us. thanks for watching. i'm john layfield. "the evening edit" starts now. the verdict is in. the jury finding trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort guilty on eight counts, and the judge declaring a mistrial on the other ten counts. we have the latest. >> just to break down as you rightly mentioned, these eight out of 18 counts, a guilty verdict. i will just take you through count by count and let you know what the maximum jail time or sentence would be. of course, this is certainly not guaranteed. there are more steps to this process but let's go through one by one. guilty on eight counts of fraud. so five of the eight were on tax fraud charges.

each of those would have a three-year maximum. guilty on one charge of hiding foreign bank accounts. that would have a five-year maximum sentence or maximum time. guilty on two counts of bank fraud and this is actually the one that would threaten to put mr. manafort away for a very long time, 30 years maximum. again, there is an appeals process for each count. this trial began three weeks ago. the jury has been deliberating for four straight days. we understand from today that the jury had actually sent judge ellis a note twice, just indicating they were having difficulty reaching consensus and of course, the judge encouraging the jury to reach consensus but of course, saying to be respectful of minority views. this is the first case to emerge from the office of the special counsel, robert mueller. put that in context as well. a lot of people saying the outcome of this case really is a critical moment for the trump administration. i also want to mention just to

highlight the point you brought up, which is the judge did declare a mistrial on the ten other counts so there were 18 in total. guilty on waieight, then the remaining ten have been declared a mistrial by the judge. john: it sounds like, i agree this is a critical point in the trump administration but it sounds like the government just wants a witness. this bank fraud occurred, it should be prosecuted by 2005, 2007 bank fraud has obviously nothing to do with the 2016 election. it sounds like the government simply wants a witness that will turn against the president. reporter: well, of course that would be ideal for the prosecutors. i do not think -- we will see what of course plays out but to your point, we do know that paul manafort joined, then later managed president trump's campaign in 2016, fairly late in the game. so to your point, his connection with president trump really was

in 2016 and before, and a lot of these charges do relate to the time when he was a former foreign political agent and that was long before he was working on the president's campaign, to your exact point, in 2016. john: thank you very much. i appreciate it. turning to another major headline, donald trump's former personal attorney, michael cohen, sources saying to fox news the cohen deal is a guilty plea with three to five years in jail. hillary vaughn is at the white house with the latest. reporter: donald trump's former personal attorney and fixer admitting in open court that he paid hush money to keep someone quiet at the direction of a candidate. he did not name the president in court. he simply said a candidate. he also didn't identify who that person -- who the person was that he made the payment to, but he did say it totaled $130,000, the amount that we know michael cohen has said he paid to

playboy model stormy daniels. cohen also getting emotional in court, shaking his head when he agreed to not challenge a sentence from the judge for jail time ranging anywhere from 46 to 63 months in jail. cohen also pleading guilty to multiple counts of tax fraud, making false statements to a financial institution, other campaign finance law violations. what we do know is that michael cohen is essentially coming clean as part of this guilty plea, but rudy giuliani, president trump's personal attorney right now, earlier before this came out, the details of this, saying that he doesn't think this is a bad thing for the president. we'll have to see if he's had a change of heart after hearing what cohen said in open court about this payment at the direction of a candidate, making it clear it wasn't his idea, as he was clearly told by a candidate to do so. john: the breaking of a campaign finance law, that is a felony,

correct? reporter: i do not know. i would have to double-check that. i don't have the details. john: if it is, which i was told it was, i didn't have time to check because this is breaking news right as we are starting the show, then what mr. cohen is alleging is that the candidate which i think is obvious is president trump, is that the president of the united states directed his former personal attorney before he was president to commit a felony, according to mr. cohen. i mean, that would be the allegation, right, that mr. cohen has made? reporter: that's right. that's what he's saying as part of this plea, that someone, the candidate, unnamed again, told him to make this payment to keep someone quiet. again, not identifying who the candidate was or that someone that he paid the money to. we do know that it's $130,000, that was the total of the payment, which matches what was given to playboy model stormy daniels by michael cohen admittedly, which was something he had said earlier on. but earlier this evening, as news of this guilty plea was

trickling out, rudy giuliani saying he doesn't think this is bad for the president and also, saying that again, the president knew nothing about the payment, saying cohen clearly has tapes that vindicate the president saying he knew nothing about it. but it seems cohen has either had change of heart or something has changed between what happened then and now in open court, because he's clearly pointing fingers at someone else for the reason why he directed money to another person. john: hillary, thank you very much. joining me now, republican strategist, ford o'connell. ford, to me, this certainly appears almost like president clinton all over again. you're investigating something else, you come up with a payment to a porn star, you come up with a lie about an affair. president clinton lied under oath, that's wrong. if this broke campaign finance laws, that's wrong as well. this has nothing to do with the 2016 russian meddling in the

election. what this investigation was supposed to be about. not to diminish the fact that if they committed a felony, it needs to be addressed but what does this mean now for president trump going forward? >> well, i think you hit the nail on the head. the problem with the special counsel is you are investigating a person which in this case is donald trump, and not a specific crime like russian collusion and prosecutors are going to try to squeeze every way possible to do it. manafort's case, i think you also hit the nail on the head earlier and that was about trying to get a conviction and get a witness so you could rachet up the pressure on the president. i don't know that it's actually going to work because chances are, it seems mr. manafort might be looking at, you know, life in jail, depending on what happens on the august 28th sentencing, so frankly, at 69 years old he's better off hoping for a presidential pardon than actually providing the mueller team with any sort of information. as for mr. cohen, okay, look, it's three to five years, potentially a $100,000 fine. we don't know what is there, we don't know what evidence cohen

has, but obviously, i'm not sure that in terms of a campaign finance crime for the trump campaign, that means anything more than actually paying a fine themselves. john: to mr. manafort, to me, this is something that has nothing to do with the president, right? because you had 2005, 2007 fraud. there's no way this had something to do even though he knew him in 2016, it's impossible it had something to do with the election. i think the government is strong-arming him to get a witness. doesn't mean that what he did wasn't wrong and he should be prosecuted for it but when you go to mr. cocohen, what mr. coh is alleging is the now president has directed him to commit a violation, which certainly appears to be a felony of campaign finance laws, to me that's much bigger. when you look at the terms of this investigation, it seems like this is out of the realm of that investigation. you mentioned they are investigating a person, say in manafort and in president trump. they are supposed to be investigating russian collusion. how do you get to porn star payments? >> because they don't have what it is they think is going to be

sort of the linchpin to knock down president trump so they are basically scraping the bottom of the barrel to look for everything and they are going to leave no brick unturned. that's what we're seeing today. i don't think we are any closer to russian collusion or obstruction of justice. all we have today are a few people's lives that are ruined and essentially the government wouldn't prosecute had they not been associated with donald john trump and he were not sitting president of the united states. john: what happens to president trump here? what happened to president clinton in the '90s, he got impeached but not convicted. it's easier to impeach a president than convict him. it's happened twice. >> you're right, but here's the thing. i don't think president trump is ever going to be charged. they are going to wind up giving a report and essentially, you are absolutely right, it takes 60% of the house to impeach, it takes two-thirds of the senate to remove him. therefore, no president has been removed. guess what, if trump wins re-election in 2020, this is all gone. john: thank you, ford.

you will be back with us shortly. i look forward to it. we are awaiting a press conference with the prosecutor in the michael cohen case. we will bring it to you when he's there. turning to markets, which is hard to do right now with the president of the united states apparently, certainly mentioned by mr. cohen as an allegation of directing him to commit a felony but let's check on your money. all three major indices closing the day higher with the dow up 63 points. ashley webster is on the floor of the new york stock exchange with the latest. reporter: so much for summer doldrums in the middle of august. the s&p 500 hitting an all-time high and tying the record for the strongest bull market ever, closing the session up another five points to close at 2862. that means the bull run has now run its course for 3,452 days, all the way back to march of 2009. tomorrow we will break that reco record. the dow gained 62 points,

25,822. the nasdaq also up half a percent. the standout today, how about the retailers. t.j. maxx impressing investors with its earning report, the stock gaining nearly 5% as profits jumped nearly 34%. retail, i think. back to you. john: i could listen to you all day. the bull market in u.s. stocks is about to become the longest in american history, ten years after the financial crisis. while the dow is on the brink of bursting out of correction territory for the first time in more than six months. joining me are my old bulls and bears crew. jonas and gary. guys, welcome. a crazy day here with all this stuff coming forward right now. but this bull market, lot of it has been -- last bull market didn't do well. we had 1% gdp growth in 2001, the bush tax cut came along,

raised it to 3.8, 3.5 respectively in '04 and '05. it seems the tax cuts are what's keeping this bull market alive or rejuvenated. gary b., do you agree with that? if so, how much credit do you give these tax cuts? >> partially agree. it's good to be back with you and jonas as always. i think the tax cuts certainly are the firm foundation but beyond that, i think people are underestimating technology. everyone says oh, it's totally driven by that but technology is where it's at. you have companies like amazon, google, netflix, doing new and innovative things just driving this economy forward. frankly, we haven't even talked about things like artificial intelligence, robotics, self-driving cars. it is a darned exciting time to be in the u.s. i'm excited about this economy. i think as you allude to, the tax cuts are one. cutting regulation is another.

i think this bull market could go on for awhile. >> jonas, speaking about what gary b. just said, the market go on for awhile, do you think this market which is very long in the tooth, it's now just become the longest in american history, how long do you think this bull market lasts? >> look, i'm more biased because i'm comfortable investing after long bear markets as opposed to long bull markets. doesn't mean it has to end because a certain amount of years have gone by. there's a lot of positive things but there's always positive things going on before a huge bear market comes. you don't really know when that's going to come so you can't sit around waiting for that day. that said, i'm personally a little nervous. i think the growth area that gary was talking about is amazing, what's going on there -- john: guys, i'm sorry. we have breaking news. the cohen prosecutor is there. we are going right now live.

something about what mr. cohen has alleged that the president has done. not sure if we are going to get a statement or not. it's obviously breaking news. mr. cohen has dropped an absolute bombshell here. it's his word against the president's. he has alleged his campaign finance laws which he said he broke, because of payments to stormy daniels, that the president directed him to do that. if so, the now president, then candidate, directed mr. cohen to commit a felony and that's what mr. cohen is alleging. by the way, that is still the president's word against his so that's what we are following up now on this case. the question is going to be what happens to the president now. this special investigation, there has been 21 special investigations since the carter administration. only two times has the lead person investigated been convicted. here we go. let's go right here. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

i'm the deputy united states attorney for the southern district of new york. the attorney for the united states in this matter. with me is phil sweeney, assistant director in charge of the new york field office of the fbi and james robnett, the supervisory agent in charge of the new york office of the irs. also with me are the prosecutors from the united states attorney's office in the southern district of new york who prosecuted the cohen matter. i'm going to have a brief statement and will not been taking any questions. today, as you heard, michael cohen pled guilty to eight felony charges, five of those dealt with tax evasion for the years 2012 through 2016, in which he failed to report approximately $4.1 million in reported income, approximately 2.5 of that money was from interest payments from a personal loan that he failed to

report. approximately $1.3 million of that dollar was from the operation of his taxi medallion business. approximately $100,000 of that money was from brokerage commission and over $200,000 was from consulting fees. that's over $4.3 million over a five-year period which translates into a loss to the united states treasury of approximately $1.3 million. in addition, in count 6, mr. cohen pled guilty to making false statements to a financial institution in connection with an application for a home equity line of credit. in that application, he failed to disclose more than $14 million in debt that he had and as a result of that concealment, he obtained that $500,000 line of credit, which he would not have been entitled to had he been candid and honest.

in addition, mr. cohen pled guilty to two campaign finance charges, one for causing an unlawful corporate contribution and a second one for personally making an excessive personal contribution, both for the purpose of influencing the 2016 election. in addition, what he did was he worked to pay money to silence two women who had information that he believed would be detrimental to the 2016 campaign and to the candidate and the campaign. in addition, mr. cohen sought reimbursement for that money by submitting invoices to the candidate's company, which were untrue and false. they indicated that the reimbursement was for services rendered for the year 2017, when in fact, those invoices were a sham. he provided no legal services

for the year 2017 and it was simply a means to obtain reimbursement for the unlawful campaign contribution. a couple points i would like to make. first, these are very serious charges and reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over an extended period of time. they are significant in their own right. they are particularly significant when done by a lawyer, a lawyer who through training and tradition understands what it means to be a lawyer, to engage in honest and fair dealing and adherence to the law. mr. cohen disregarded that training, disregarded that tradition and decided that he was above the law and for that, he was going to pay a very, very serious price. with respect to the campaign finance violations, the campaign finance laws are designed to prevent the use of illegal money in elections and to maintain the integrity of those elections.

mr. cohen made guilty pleas for those campaign violations and those are core violations. what he did was, these pleas remind us it is illegal for corporations to make contributions to candidates and it is illegal to make contributions in excess of the amount that congress set for individuals. that is a strong message today and we will not be -- we will not fear prosecuting additional corporation campaign finance cases. lastly and perhaps most importantly, this case is unique in many ways. this witness, the gathering of all of you here today, and in other ways trn, it's unique as but in really important ways, this case is not unlike many cases that my office, the united states attorney's office brings, that the entire department of

justice brings and that the law enforcement agencies do as well, including the fbi and the irs. this case has more in common with all those cases because they all share the same message. that message is that the rule of law applies. and that for law enforcement, all of whom are gathered here, it is our commitment that we will pursue and vindicate those who choose to break the law and vindicate the majority of people who live law-abiding lives, who follow honest and fair dealing, and live lives of lawful behavior. the message is that we are here, prosecutors are here, law enforcement is here, the department of justice is here, law enforcement agencies are here. we are a nation of laws and the essence of this case is about is justice, and that is an equal playing field for all persons in

the eyes of the law, and that is the lesson that mr. cohen learned today, and it is a very harsh one for him. thank you very much. reporter: who is the candidate you're talking about? >> i'm sorry. one other thing. i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i would also like to introduce -- sorry -- my fault. i really want to thank mr. sweeney and robnett of the fbi and irs and the agents who work for them. we do many, many cases with them and their determination and fair dealing and vigor with which they pursue their cases is really inspirational. to the prosecutors in my office, i cannot express the gratitude for the hard work that they did in this case and that is assistant united states attorney andrea griswald and tom mckay, the deputy chief of the public corruption unit and the chief of the public corruption unit.

for all of these people, i could go on and on. john: the prosecutor loves to hear himself talk. he's going the talk for some time at length about the righteousness of the fbi and government administration. i guess he's forgetting a few years of j. edgar hoover. i want to break this down a little bit here because the 2012 to 2016, there was the tax evasion. i'm joined by liz peeke because all this is not associated with the president. i don't want to diminish this whatsoever but it was supposed to be about russian collusion. >> whatever happened to that? john: that's right. none, none of this is, by the way. 2012 to 2016 tax evasion, $4.1 million, the president obviously had nothing to do with that. false statements to financial institutions, the president had nothing to do with that. i'm not letting the president off the hook here. >> that has nothing to do with him. john: i'm pointing out the fact the president is not tied to eight felony counts here.

what hige is, is two illegal payments. it was the exact amount paid to stormy daniels. it seems to me this is a pay-off to a porn star over allegations to either keep her quiet because those allegations were well-founded or they were either way to keep her quiet. how does this get back to the president, because what mr. cohen is alleging here is that now president trump directed him to commit a felony, a sitting president like that, is this next to be investigated? is this what he's talking about with further campaign finance law violations? >> my guess would be, and i'm not a legal expert, this would be grounds for impeachment. i think there are several political ramifications from what we have heard today. first of all, i think this is going to really energize both sides on trying to win the house, because if democrats take over the house, undoubtedly now they will use this if indeed this is the way it's been presented and it's a pretty open

and shut case, to impeach the president. i think frankly, on the right, that is going to energize a lot of voters and trump supporters to go vote which normally people don't do in off election years. this house, who controls the house of representatives come november, is going to take on enormous significance, possibly because of what we heard today. i would also say politically, looking at this from the political spectrum, trump supporters are going to say what does this have to do with russia. yes, he paid off a porn star. who wouldn't, on the cusp of an election. these kinds of things in most people's minds go on all the time. you try to get rid of unpleasant news items, et cetera. look, none of this is attractive or good, but i will almost guarantee you three weeks from now, the president's approval rant ratings would not have been dented by this one iota among republicans. john: it backfired on republicans when they impeached president clinton over lying

under oath about an affair, if this happened. this is all allegations. mr. cohen has alleged this. >> exactly right. we don't know whether he has tapes. is it just he said/he said? we really don't know. john: thank you very much. if michael cohen's attorney comes to the mic we will bring it to you live. president trump due to hold a rally in west virginia tonight. this will be very, very interesting. at 7:00 p.m. eastern, you can't miss this. fox business will bring it to you live.

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john: joining me now, republican strategist, ford o'connell back with us and democratic strategist. i want to start with you. you were on the political ethics committee, which seems like an oxymoron, considering what's going on in the world. the fallout from the president,

talking about the midterms, but the fallout in general. we have had two presidents both impeached, one convicted, lyndon johnson, president clinton. >> nixon. john: he was not impeached. he resigned. >> you are talking about johnson from the civil war. john: yes. the war powers act. fallout for the president? >> look, i think right now it's really more about the fallout for michael cohen. it's clear that, you know, a number of these counts were directly related to issues that were outside of the scope of his dealings within the trump organization, so you have a number of counts dealing with, for example, over $4 million of undisclosed income which cost the government, according to prosecutors, over $1 million. the way the federal sentencing guidelines work is it's a point system. there's upward departures and downward departures from that point system. a lot of those categories are based upon the amount of money

that is involved in the crime. when you are talking about something over $1 million, it is unlikely even if you have never gotten a parking ticket, to not have some jail time associated with this, even if you are pleading guilty to the crime. so obviously, michael cohen is trying to save himself and his family. i think there's probably a lot of bristling happening right now in the white house that there was, you know, a recognition of him paying this money to the two individuals, even though the name president trump was not given, i think we all know the insinuation. john: certainly stormy daniels, it's the exact amount of money so we assume it was sels becato daniels because of that. ford, i want to ask you about this. you have been listening to the show and all the news conferences come out. 2012 to 2016, that was the tax evasion. it seems like we are dealing with a dirty lawyer here, which there's a lot of those in this country. the only difference is, this

lawyer was tied to then candidate president trump. how does this progress as far as president trump going forward? >> well, i don't think that there's going to be any legal consequences for president trump here. he never said anything about these payments under oath. essentially all there is is political consequences. maybe the dems try to leverage this into impeachment should they retake the house but at the end of the day, the republican base is with him. he's got a 90% own party rating, second highest since world war ii. republicans aren't going to abandon president trump, particularly if they stuck with him after the "access hollywood" video. john: is this not distracting? >> of course. that's the whole point. that's the whole point the special counsel wants to do. john: do you think the special counsel is just -- >> michael cohen is breaking the law. john: admittedly. he should be prosecuted for that. you mentioned the special counsel wanted this to be distracting. you think this released this, which is a bit not standard, released before the election, you think he did it on purpose to disrupt the midterms?

>> he wanted to have this trial and midterm concluded before labor day because he doesn't want to be seen as interfering with elections because at the end of the day, what's he trying to investigate? it would be odd if the guy he was investigating was interfering with the election in terms of mueller. this was done before labor day on purpose. john: would you agree? >> i think it's possible. rudy giuliani brought this up a number of times, essentially saying it's necessary to, you know, try to wrap the investigation up in one way, shape or form on the mueller side before the midterm elections, but it's really not about stopping the work. it's just about not doing it publicly. i think if there was going to be a bombshell they probably wanted to get it out sooner rather than later. john: thank you guys very much, on this day of breaking news. russian hackers not backing down, now targeting the u.s. senate and conservative think tanks. we have the story. first, $16 million tariffs against china about to take effect as the president admits

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john: the president just arriving at the airport in charleston, west virginia ahead of his rally tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern. fox business will bring it to you live. this will be one of the most watched rallies probably in political history due to what has happened today. going back to trade talks continuing with china this week.

as new u.s. tariffs on $16 billion of chinese goods are set to take effect in two days, as the u.s. trade representative office holds talks this week discussing additional tariffs on about $200 billion worth of chinese products. joining me is my bulls and bears crew. gary b., it seems to me that what we want to deal with in china, there's a problem with the one belt, one road initiative, a problem with intellectual property theft. are these tariffs, which seems to me we could have some type of lasting problems with our economy because of these, are these tariffs the best way to deal with these issues? >> remains to be seen, john. normally these things that you just discussed like the intellectual property are, you know, kind of gotten to via diplomatic ways, kind of a state department thing. are tariffs the right way? trump is the first one really to try it like that.

we have seen where sanctions, any kind of economic activity against a country that we don't think is acting right, acting poorly, have worked so the real question you bring up, can tariffs affect a kind of non-economic angle we are going after, i think it can. i think tariffs will start to so negatively affect china they will be willing to cede to our demands. is it the right way? remains to be seen. it can be effective, i think. john: jonas, you talk about the theft of intellectual property and the other side from gary b.'s argument makes the case we need the world with us to talk about china and intellectual property theft. but we are picking a trade fight, it seems, with the whole world. that is a good idea? should we not pick and choose our fights a little bit better? sorry. we are going to the president here. >> -- many people.

just the way it ends up. it was not the original mission, believe me. it was something very much different. so had nothing to do with russian collusion. we continue the witch hunt. thank you very much. john: that's the president right there reiterating the fact this had nothing to do with russian collusion which i think is a fact. i don't think there's any doubt about that. i think the political fallout will be both sides essentially coming to the defense of their side. this didn't work in the '90s with president clinton. you had the republicans who lost favor for years because they impeached him even though they could not convict him. takes two-thirds of the senate so convicting the president of impeachment to me is next to impossible. if the democrats get the house, there's a chance they could impeach him for this but i think the political fallout will be same as it was back in the '90s with the president because again, this had nothing to do with the russian collusion. i think americans are going to

look at that and realize that. jonas, i want to go back to you on this and the tariffs and what is going on in this crazy world. hard to switch to the market here, but is this not a black cloud on the market, as far as the markets fell off today when it looked like the manafort conviction was coming through. is this one of the reasons the market, at least the dow, is not hitting all-time highs? >> i think the market is doing pretty well considering we are initiating a global trade war and i don't think there's been a huge drag from all this trump stuff on the market yet. our market's beating all the other markets at this point, any major market, at least. look, okay, i can give you the stormy daniels thing. i think that's very much like the clinton thing. whether it's tangled up in being some sort of campaign finance mistake, who cares. the problem is at the end of the day, cohen and the other guy,

manafort, were doing deals with the ukraine government, talking to russian oligarchs. russian oligarchs aren't like our billionaires, aren't like having a meeting with bill gates or warren buffett. they are tied in with the kremlin. don't know what's going on with that part of the story so there is a piece that may be collusion with the russians. we don't know. all this other stuff is too many crooks flying too close to the trump sun. they had nice little dirty businesses. they got the wide scope of the media lens is on trump. you don't want to be around that if you are a crook. you will go down to something unrelated to trump. that's what we're seeing and it's not done yet. there is a piece, what happened with clinton had nothing to do -- wasn't like manafort was involved with the french government. they were involved with governments, we have sanctioned these companies, aluminum companies. they have done bad things and we don't know where this story is going. it's too early to say it had nothing to do with the russians. john: i hate to cut you guys short. great to see you, as always. we have tons of breaking news, obviously, so thank you both for being so patient with us today.

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john: russian hackers linked to the 2016 election cyberattack ons on the democratic party are now attempting to hack the u.s. senate and a conservative think tank. microsoft announcing it thwarted attempts last week by taking control of six web sites created by a russian intelligence unit. let's take it up with our security analyst, robert siciliano. i hope i got your name right. this is what the mueller investigation was supposed to be

all about, with the russian collusion and russian hacking. seems to me we are arguing over who the collusion was with. the base root of this was the russians that were hacking the election. have we done enough as a country to stop this going forward? >> you know, there's always more to do. hackers, whether they are government-funded, government-backed, have unlimited resources and they are just going to continue on their mission. in this particular scenario, microsoft stepped in and were able to thwart this particular hack, but that does not mean that the hackers aren't playing the whack-a-mole game and have a number of others planned. john: the recent def-con convention had 35 11 to 17-year-olds, i think it was, an 11-year-old was the one who won the hacking of the florida election system in ten minutes. an 11-year-old. not a sovereign state actor. not somebody backed by billions

of dollars. an 11-year-old hacked the florida, replica of the florida election system in ten minutes. are we really that vulnerable? >> that was in a controlled environment. it was not the actual system in place. that said, yes, we are vulnerable. the good news is that a lot of these votes are hand-counted and collated and submitted electronically but that does not mean we are, you know, unimpenetrable. lots more has to do before the voting system is completely digital. john: what do we have to do? the kremlin denied knowledge of any attempts to influence the u.s. election. how do we actually prevent russia from doing this again and what do we need to do to president trump? he seems to be shrugging off all these allegations. i'm sorry, president putin. forgive me. >> at this point it's all about vigilance. we heard it over and over again. security is all about good

versus evil and it's a 24/7/365 battle. as long as you have security companies in place that are doing their jobs effectively, all those that are affected, you know, doing their jobs as well, and the general public, consumers, people like you and i, making sure our data is properly protected. using stronger passwords, password managers, vpns, making sure anything and everything you do digitally is properly secured. john: password 123 is not the best way to use a password, is it? >> about 20 million people use that password. john: it's insane, despite all the warnings. thank you very much for joining us. appreciate your time. >> thank you. john: president trump set to hold a rally in west virginia tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern. fox business will bring it to you live. i.c.e. agents arresting an ex-nazi guard who has been here in the united states living for decades. we have more on that story for you next. there's a lot to love about medicare.

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or visit... john: u.s. immigration authorities arresting and deporting a former nazi guard living in queens, new york, according to the justice department. the 95-year-old served at the nazi ss training camp in german-occupied poland and facilitated the murder of 6,000 prisoners in one day. this happening after president trump honoring the work law enforcement and border patrol are doing. with me is former immigration and customs agent. authorities found out, hi, david, thank you for joining us, authorities found out about this gentleman about 25 years ago and he was ordered deported in 2004, but was allowed to stay here for another 14 years. it's amazing to me any of these guys are still alive. how did he stay here for 14 years after being reported? >> he came in in 1949 as one of thousands of ss soldiers

throughout the world. he became a citizen in 1957, was found out in 2001, ordered deported, like you said, then in 2004 they couldn't get rid of this guy. both the bush administration and the obama administration could not leverage this guy to be deported, but president bush -- i'm sorry, president trump was able to leverage germany into accepting this guy. he's been deported back to germany. he's back on german soil where he belongs. john: what happens to him now? >> well, this is up to the german authorities. i'm sure there's war crimes they could go after him on for what he's done over there. not only 6,000 in one day, he was involved in tens of thousands of people being murdered in the polish concentration camp. john: look, i agree with you. if this guy is dead and committed these crimes, dig him up and hang him. i have no problem deporting a 95-year-old guy who committed tens of thousands of murders of innocent people like this. why did the bush administration and obama administration both have such problems? was it germany that did not want to take this? >> there are three countries

involved, germany, hungary and poland were responsible for this guy in one form or another. none of those three were going to take him back. president bush -- trump had the leverage to make them do it. this guy lived in the united states in comfort for years and years and years and was only discovered that he was a nazi ss in 2001. but this is a problem with any refugee that comes into the united states. they lie on their applications, you don't know who they are. matter of fact, in sacramento, they just arrested an isis terrorist in sacramento for murders over there. he applied for refugee status in 2012, was granted in 2014, but when he was granted refugee status in june of 2014, went out and murdered more people in iraq, then came into the united states in november of 2014, set up residence in salt lake city in 2015, then went over to california in 2016. but this is just the tip of the iceberg of the problem with refugee status. the other thing we've got going

on here are all the deportees that have been granted citizenship because of false informati information, with false identities when they came back into the united states. our immigration system on vetting is suspect as to who is doing what and why are we not finding out this information. john: you are talking about amin, the one who came with isis. we have about 20 seconds left. i want to follow up. what was the push-back from getting him deported? or getting him prosecuted? >> right now, there's an issue with it. he's being held without bond in sacramento. hopefully they are going to be able to send him back and face the charges in iraq for the murders that he committed. john: david, thank you very much. we appreciate your time and appreciate what you're doing. we'll be right back. and at expedia, we don't think you should be rushed into booking one.

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charleston, west virginia about to begin a round table event with supporters. it's beginning 7:00 p.m. eastern time. that's it for us. thank you for watching. charles payne with "making money." charles: boy oh boy do we have a pair of blockbusters for you tonight. both reports involving legal cases with michael cohen and paul manafort. for cohen a guilty plea-and prison time. for manafort, 8 guilty verdicts. reporter: michael cohen pleading guilty today to 8 counts, five counts include tax fraud, making false statements to a financial institution and excessive campaign donations.