good night from new york. i'm gregg jarrett sitting in for lou. [♪] kennedy: some in the media are pushing hard for impeachment since democrats are calling it the beginning of the end. but as we all know, president trump is a counter puncher who thrives in this kind of chaos. the question is, can he day one step ahead of robert mueller and his enemies in the democratic party. his former campaign chief paul manafort will stay in jail for a while. and michael cohen bled guilty. insiders say it's like i cone is going to tell all and sing like a canary.

on top of all that. a fox news poll shows more people support the mueller investigation compared to last month. but white house press secretary sarah sanders says the president has nothing to worry about. >> he did nothing wrong and there are no charges against him. just because michael cohen made a plea deal, it doesn't mean that implicates the president on anything. kennedy: most of legal scholars say the president cannot be indicted. the hush money for affairs probably doesn't rise to high crimes. but the ultimate threat is political. congress will decide ways an impeachable offense. if democrats retake the house in

november, they will decide what is high crimes and misdemeanors. joining me now, the senior editor of the federalist, mollie hemingway. there are gleeful leftists, one writer at nbc news called it the darkest day since watergate. i think some of those are an exaggeration. but i think there could be legal trouble for the president. where does the truth lie? >> it remains to be seen. people who oppose trump think michael cohen's guilty plea for campaign violations will be the means by which president trump gets take' down. impeachment is a political issue. any democratic congress can decide whatever trump has done is worthy of impeachment, regardless of what the underlying facts are.

but campaign finance laws are murky. there is a of reason to think there isn't a reason for trump's implication. john edwards was indicted to campaign violations for payments to his mistress. but that money didn't come from him, it came from a donor. the government was unable to make the case that was an illegal campaign donation. kennedy: i don't know that we are quite there yet, but what you pointed out is now with special counsels. all they do because they do have an endless budget, they don't have fixed time lines. they just have to justify their existence. and for a lot of people on the left it would seem carefully choreographed between paul

manafort's guilty verdict and the michael cohen plea deal, that this was cord nateed and ordered to do as much damage to the president as possible. >> the timing is interesting but it's impossible to say at this point. by the many worth looking at how this special counsel was set up to look at treasonous collusion with russia to set up an election. the manafort case had nothing to do with trump or russia. and when they were squeezing cohen to plead guilty he didn't plead guilty to a meeting in drawing or hacked emails. he said he made an illegal campaign donation when set up the payments. a lot of people don't like trump. they will do waste takes to get rid of him. if this is the means by which it has to happen, they will try for it. i don't know if they understand

it requires the consent of the people as well. when you were promised treasonous collusion with putin and it's a campaign violation at best which would normally be handled by a fine, that's a big step down. kennedy: you are dealing with people who haven't been in politics and they are used to operating this way in the business world. politicians who resign tend to do so to save face so they can run for office again. or somehow regather their political capital. richard nixon resigned because he had no more political capital. he was at the end of a costly and bloody war that expand five administrations. and he had no goodwill from his own party on capitol hill. the president is in a vastly didn't place, isn't he? >> people are fed up with a

swamp that protects its own and takes care of the establishment. when you are arguing in favor of going after trump affiliates, you have to make a good case that you would do this no matter who they are associated with. we have seen in recent years the federal government can choose to go lightly against people if they committed crimes or lied to the fbi. kennedy: or smashed blackberries and paid for opposition research. >> it's not that manafort and cohen aren't shady people, they are. but this town is full of people who are shady but they get off because they have connections. kennedy: all that does is perpetuate the ugly cycle. the next time democrats are in power, in order to salvage a democrat presidency they will do

the same thing they find so sickening right now. and it does undermine trust in government and these institutions when people try foul because they don't get their way in the outcome of these elections. where do we go from here and how do we get to the point where justice is metered out equally? >> people keep saying yesterday was the day that put trump on the path to impeachment. the truth is he has been on the path to impeachment the moment he won an election he wasn't supposed to win. people have decided it's an untenable situation. i think it's better for people to have confidence in our institutions and government and a desire to let the people choose who their president is and not fight against that for the entirety of his 4 to 8 year term.

kennedy: suck it up. find better candidates. try being a libertarian. haven't won one yet. mollie hemingway, thank you. president trump tried to distance himself from paul manafort and michael cohen's convictions. but 40% of voters expect robert mule tore find out the president committed criminal or impeachable offenses. will the mueller investigation hurt republicans come november or could the threat of impeachment energize the gop? joining me now, founder of american majority, ned ryun and richard fowler of the richard fowler show. good to talk to both of you. ned, i will start with you. it's interesting. you have more republicans willing to talk about impeachment than democrats

because this is something that really could energize republican voters if in fact it gets to that point. and they feel this is just political bullying to even the score. >> 100%. i think the impact open the mid term comes down to what do the american people think this is about. is this about the law or trying to settle political scores through the legal system? if they think it's trying to settle political scores through the legal system. that has negative implications for democrats. as molly pointed out, all this has to do with anything is the left lost an election in 2016 it didn't think it was going to lose. right now the on thing donald trump is guilty of is wing that election nobody thought he would win. the democrats are trying to tamp down the talk of impeachment because they know that will

energize the republican base to get them out to vote in the house elections and senate elections. they are trying to keep it under wraps as much as possible. but it's hard to keep that under wraps. kennedy: politicians shouldn't be impeached because you don't like them. there are plenty of people who don't like nancy pelosi, and she has been used as a fundraising tool by many republic caption. the former speaker has been talking about corruption in the gop for quite a while. if the democrats don't have any new ideas, will this corruption be the new talking point they use to gain traction come mid-terms? >> i think a lot of our candidates have great ideas. i think democrats have a lot of ideas and they are having living

room conversations with the american voters. but that doesn't take away from the fact what we are witnessing under trump is this. so far his campaign chairman has been convicted of a crime, his hour for 22 years has pled guilty to bank fraud and paying off a porn star. kennedy: don't forget the playboy model. >> omarosa dropping tapes like it's going out of style. these are the good people he hires. the american people are scratching their head saying i don't think these are good people and it speaks more about you than it does about them. kennedy: he does tend to hire and appointed very bright people. but when he acts through loyalty, he doesn't make the best decisions, ned. >> no. and i would argue i think a lot of people will be looking, okay

we don't all make the best decisions in hiring people. you want to talk about convicted felons. we can go back to the crime family convicted a long time associates of the clintons. kennedy: clinton is not likeable at all. she is a war monger. go ahead. >> let me put is this way. all we are talking about is people trying to impeach donald trump to overturn the 2016 elections. we can gripe about some of the hires he made. maybe not the best. but it will come down to do the american people think this is common sense. kennedy: there are scummy, disgusting felty people on many side. and politics particularly in washington tend to attract some real doozies, especially people who have been marginalized from

the system because of their questionable past. they are attracted like moths to a camping lamp to someone like donald trump who is in such proximity to power. i guess the question is, where do democrats go from here? should they be banging the impeachment drum? >> democrats are having a real consideration with the american people and we are winning on the generic ballot. the reason why we had the investigation to begin with because rod rosenstein appointed robert mule tore run this investigation who is also not a democrat. appointed by a lifelong republican to find truth. what they are finding here, a lot of people involved with donald trump are involved in high crimes and misdemeanors. >> no, they are not. the whole thing with the mueller investigation was to look into

russian collusion. >> blank fraud is a crime, and so is tax evasion. kennedy: let's stop applying the misdeeds of other questionable people to one person. >> i'm actually not. kennedy: when robert mueller or anyone else can show the montana laundered money web accepted money from russia, he accepted help from russia, and it exroam mietds our democratic system, then we can start talking about impeachment. we are so far away from that, it makes me think democrats wants the economy to tank. >> that's not at all true. i do believe. kennedy: they love socialism and it only flourishes in a bad economy. >> i believe the republicans have a decent economic restage

to run on. trump associates cannot keep themselves out of trouble. like omarosa releasing a book and dropping 200 tapes. kennedy: please top acting like it's exclusive to republicans. i can smell the fungus from here. that's why i stay in new york. ned, you get the last word. >> we are two years in. zero proof of collusion. i want to talk about the economy. i would much rather talk about the fact that if democrats get back into power, they will take away the tax cuts. and they will go for an assault weapon ban. kennedy: they will take our gods and our guns. >> that's not true. ned and richard, thank you so

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woman is now permanently separated from her family. a person came in from mexico illegally and killed her. we need the wall, we need our immigration laws changed. we need our border laws changed. kennedy: does the story strengthen conservative calls for immigration reform or is it capitalizing on a horrible tragedy. joining me is the form i.c.e. director. did this guy have a criminal gak background? >> not that has been found. he entered the country illegally and he hides in the weeds. unfortunately he committed a tragic crime. i met with a lot of angel moms as i.c.e. director. kennedy: her murder is

unthinkable what her family has been going through the past five weeks. but it doesn't mean necessarily the people who come to this country are more likely to commit these most of heinous acts, and it doesn't make it any more sad for a mom to lose a child to a crazed sociopathic person who happens to be an illegal immigrant versus someone born in the united states. we have to be careful not to paint all people who come to this country as murderous psychos. >> we don't paint them as murderous psychos. people ask me doyle legal aliens commit more crimes than u.s. citizens? i don't know. kennedy: they actually do not. >> the correct thing to say how many crimes committed by illegal immigrants would be preventable if they weren't here. if we had a wall they would not

have happened. kennedy: he's been here more 7 years. is he a dreamer? >> no. kennedy: how did he get here? >> illegally. he entered the country illegally which is a crime. he entered the country a second time is a felony. but remember there is no prerequisite immigration laws enacted by congress that you have to commit another crime to be removed. people say just concentrate on the criminals. here is somebody who is a non-criminal and he murdered a girl. 89% -- kennedy: our immigration laws are all over the map. and they are so confusing and so unevenly applied that now states are creating not only sanctuary

cities but entire sanctuary states because there is so much confusion. i have tremendous sympathy for i.c.e. agents and border patrol who have to try and figure out the patchwork for themselves and use way too much discretion. but, you know, when you keep everyone out, you also keep good people from getting in. we have to couple with a better system that weeds out the psychopath from the entrepreneurs because over half of the people who created billion dollar businesses in this country are in fact immigrants. >> i have got to respectfully disagree with you. i can't blame anybody for wanting to be part of the greatest country on earth. but you can't be a part of this country and not respect the laws. this is the most of giving country in the world. i think it laws are clear. you enter this country

illegally, it's a crime. kennedy: i understand that. but even -- i just want to be careful that when we talk about this story, we are talking about a young woman and a tragedy, and the failure of decency and somehow another human being seeing so little. he's able to cross over to the other side end her life. that's what we should be talking about. i hope it doesn't just become a clarion call for immigration and create another wave of anti-immigration. >> what i think is sad is you have politicians putting their political intentions over public safety. sanctuary cities will entice more people illegally into this country. more people will die, more

children will be molests. sanctuary cities, talk of aboicialing i.c.e., these are enticements for people to make that dangerous journey. i'm trying to save some lives. i have seen some horrible things in my 34 years. congress can't point their finger at i.c.e. and say nazis and if you don't like the laws, change them. kennedy: we have to figure out what kind of country we want to be. in terms of immigration, we have absolutely no idea. liberals have been screaming impeachment from the mountaintops. but they don't consider who would take the *'s place? -- would take th take take pret

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kennedy: yesterday was the worst day of the president's life ever according to a former obama lackey. then in this fantasy that doesn't require russian collusion or string pulling.

hillary is instated as the rightful 45th president of the united states. reality is of all the unforced foibles and mortal wounds the president has taken or self-inflicted, cohen's guilt may be more potent and charlottesville * an and helsin. lord knows he can pick some real stinkers like manafort, omarosa and jefferson beauregard sessions. but there is a resilience that will never replicated by another politician as long as we live. his flaws are baked into the casserole. even nancy pelosi is hesitant to use the "i" word as she knows

impeachment and trump voters could sink her chances of ascending once again to another worn out speakership. and she knows a pence presidency is the opposite of what the most of strident foamy mouth resistors want. the former congressman is more conservative than any vice president in the modern era. it's fun to see the left in a lather while trump loyalists try to rationalize away potentially serious developments. if democrats impeach trump and get what they wish for, a pence presidency would be their worst nightmare. president trump brushed off cohen's guilty plea. he has a new interview. here is a sneak peek. >> they didn't come out after

campaign. they came from me. i tweeted about it. i don't know if you know. i tweeted about the payments. but they didn't come out of campaign. my first question when i heard about it is did they come out of the campaign? because that could be a little dicey, and they didn't come out of the campaign. but it's not even a campaign violation. kennedy: i hope to be so wealthy i have no idea if i'm paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to porn stars. even if cohen's guilty plea comes back to bite the president, are the left any better if they get an impeachment and vice president pence takes the oath? here to discuss, campus reform editor-in-chief, lawrence joan, and ed string. welcome, everyone. this is always the funniest

thing ever. days like yesterday and today which you can hear the excitement, the gleefulness, it's something that will tear the country apart. there are democrats who so want to bring down the president, they haven't even considered the consequences. >> it's repulsive how you have democrats and the so-called liberal media frothing at the mouth saying final we got him. you didn't get him on anything. there are no campaign finance violations. there has been no trial there will be has been no verdict. what you have is the doj stepping on the neck of cone and his attorney who might as well be a democratic hack to plead to a crime he didn't commit. if trump paid back cohen there will be is no violation. trump can use as much of his personal money that he wants to fund anything that he wants. it didn't come out of the campaign.

number two, campaign finance laws were never meant to be read so broadly. if entering into a non-disclose our agreement is a violation of campaign finance. nobody running for office could ever do business. ken trrp porn stars, huh, lawrence? >> we always knew there was shady business with the president. i think the american people knew what they were getting. here's the problem. no one is disputing on the right that manafort is shady. he's establishment and he's heels been involved in shady business. kennedy: i wonder what he said to get into the campaign. >> they thought it would be brokered convention. they those was the most of experienced to do that. my problem with how the federal government is doing this is the

fact that he's a tarring tote squeeze him to get to the president. i'm sorry, a slippery slope for our justice system to target political opponents to put pressure on someone else. if they were just attacking him and going after him for his financial crimes, i would be okay with that. >> it's an open-ended warrant. we know you have done nothing, of -- done something, we don't know what it is, but we are going to prosecute you for taxes before the election which had nothing do with our initial investigation. kennedy: i understand paul manafort has done some bad things. i totally get that. but how does that have anything to do with russia? >> that's right. you throw the book at people and they say okay, we'll have to admit guilt, or found guilt. in cohen's case now he's potentially turning on the

president. so this anti-justice mentality that you can throw the book at everybody and finally they will cave. kennedy: if you have enough money and enough time and enough people working on it, you can find crime. >> the weight of the entire u.s. government. what you have is russia collusion charges basically led to a blank check, raise his personal -- raids his personal attorney's office. seize the records of his children. then put him in a position where we are going to get you to admit to a crime you did not commit in order to pressure you to give something. kennedy: like i said with mollie hemingway at the top of the show. most of politicians if they are going to resign, it's because they are worried about their political future. the president is not going to

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kennedy: a trade war has been simmering all summer. yesterday officials met with representatives of other countries to cool things down. >>ing this is my first time talking to you on tv. but let's get back to the back and forth story with nafta. i have been standing outside all day waiting for mexican delegates to break some big news. they didn't. they seem optimistic but there

was no major news other than the fact they are pressuring and they will try to move forward weren't next few business days to have a deal conclude. but nobody could confirm that. you move over to another building in washington. at the treasury. you have chinese delegates meeting. you see this tit for tat tariff war going on since may. if you are at home and wondering what does this mean? how is this going to affect my shopping cart when i go without with my flame to buy goods. many companies across the united states have said you could see higher prices in the near future because of these tariffs. think of that down jacket you have or maybe you need a new one. those down pillows. some of the feathers come from

china. that could be higher prices for you. or fitness trackers. you like fit bit. car seats for your children. appliances in our house like blenders, coffee makers. these could potentially go up in price. even e-bikes. trek issued a statement saying they will pass on the higher tar rivers to consumers. that means your shopping cart is going to be more expensive. earlier this week the president weighed in saying he has low expectations for these talks and he's tonight for a long-haul. we don't have an end point in mind. i will give it back to you at that point. kennedy: thank you. great job. if these tariffs jack up the prices on stuff americans buy

every day and use every day, why would anyone be okay with them? you need parts from other countries. a lot of times china, and they love ducks. the panel is back. lawrence jones and ed stringer. ed, i will start with you. take to us school with your economics. >> it's a great idea. let's increase taxes on american consumers and corporations. all the goods we buy will be more expensive. american companies are going to have to pay more. the taxes sound bad, so let's call them tariffs. it will be perfect. now tit for tat. american companies wants to go sell in other places. they will be taxed more. they will have to shut down their factories. kennedy: if you are a bike

company like trek, you will have to charge more. it's basic economics. you're materials cost more, you can't just shrink your margins and hope for the best. >> we were having this debate in the green room about why we buy from china anyway. it's cheaper. at the end of the day i have to worry about my bottom line. when i look at the american made product i will go with the chinese product as long as i can get the same thing. >> even the american corporation is using inputs from all over the globe. >> tariffs are made to change consumer behavior. they are supposed to make things from china more expensive for that consumer behavior. kennedy: that's bernie sanders logic. >> that's way it's supposed to

do. kennedy: if it's not okay when it comes to healthcare, it's not okay when it comes to the free market. at some point it's got to work. >> and it's not. ed, lawrence, brook, amazing. like a rainbow of goodness.

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