cheryl: session lows on the dow. [closing bell rings] the dow falling near session lows as we head into the closing bell. s&p and nasdaq higher. nasdaq rebounded after the biggest weekly decline since march. that is it for "countdown." david asman, melissa francis take it. david: thank you very much. optimism for a new round of tax cuts with concerns about escalating trade tensions between the u.s. and china. the dow ending the day down about 57 points t looked like it was swinging to the negative at the end of the day. she is are session lows but the s&p 500 and nasdaq are bouncing back after last week's drop, snapping a four-day losing streak. happy monday, everybody, i'm david asman. melissa: i'm melissa francis. this is "after the bell." we have more on the big market movers. here is what else we're covering in the very busy hour ahead. les moonves is out effective immediately. the cbs chief resigning hours after publication of a bombshell

report filled with new allegations of sexual misconduct. our own charlie gasparino is here to break it down, what it means for the future of the network as well. investigating anonymous. the trump administration upping its attacks against the unnamed author of a "new york times" editorial, claiming to be part of the resistance. sarah sanders wrapping up the daily briefing. we're live at the white house with what the press secretary had to say about the quote, gutless source. states of emergency on the east coast. where millions of people in the path after life-threatening hurricane. latest on the mon store storm's path and when it is expected to make landfall. david: nicole petallides on floor of the new york stock exchange. we should mention, nicole, the s&p was positive. that is a much broader index of stocks. >> that's a great point, right? 500 of the s&p versus the dow

jones industrial average which is just 30, weighing down by travelers. we're seeing insurers to the downside in light of florins coming up the coast. look at broader market. dow, s&p and nasdaq you have somewhat of a mixed bag today focused on republican tax cuts rather than tariffs maybe. we did see nike as a leader, bouncing back on positive comments. here is look at tesla. interestingly enough elon musk was talking again, we're about to have the most amazing quarter in our history. you did see that the stock was up 8 1/2% on this positive idea that we know from last week investors a little bit worried about all things elon, from smoking pot to wild tweets. alibaba look at that. a new low of 155. he will succeed jack ma.

snap, chief strategy officer is leaving as the latest executive departure. it broke the down dollars. down 1.9%, another low, down over 32% this year. back to you. david: nicole, do as you favor. find out why jack ma is leaving alibaba. i think there is a story there. >> he said his own, his own ideas. education he talked about. david: right. >> i think he has some dreams. david: i think a communist government might have a thing or two to say about it. melissa. melissa: les moonves is out over the latest sexual misconduct allegations. charlie gasparino has the latest news. >> there are two stories. how much money he will get and if he gets the 120 million-dollar pay package. we reported yesterday on fox news, dependent on the internal investigation from cbs

into the sexual harrassment allegations. if it is real bad he could get zero. if he gets exonerated, he gets 120 million, he get as car, a driver, security and gets an office. those are the two extremes. take your pick. what we first reported yesterday. his money is contingent on the vision. second part of the story is much more of a corporate finance story. it is what happens to cbs next. if you look inside the separation agreement, now officially posted on the sec website. essentially what we reported next week the two sides worked out what is known as a standstill agreement between the controlling redstone families and cbs as what happens over at cbs the next two years. there is a standstill, the redstones cannot force them to merge with viacom. the other property that cbs holds and shari redstone was trying to get an active merger between both cbs and viacom.

les moonves was against it. that touched off the legal battle that has been settled with the, with the departure of moonves and agreement from shari redstone, in two years she will not touch cbs what happens in those two years? from my sources are saying the board of cbs will likely be shopping cbs to a bigger player and then it become as guessing game who might buy them. i tell you this becomes fascinating, if you think about it, some of the biggest likely buyers are out. at&t can't buy them now, digesting time warner. justice department doesn't like the deal. they probably won't like this one. comcast, same sort of stuff. justice department has bull's-eye on comcast. think they are too big. i don't think they will allow them to buy cbs. leaves players like netflix an amazon. do they have the appetite now that they're developing their own content to buy old line

media from cbs? verizon, looks like maybe after two years, cbs might be forced back with viacom. there will that be merger that les fought against. interesting story going forward. we don't know, we don't know on the les moonves side for the next month or two. on the other side it is developing. they could cut a deal tomorrow for all i know. i have not heard they initiated any talks just yet. i do know they're inside the board of cbs, their desire is to sell cbs to bigger player. melissa: interesting, charlie, thanks for that. david: maybe charlie will write a book. we have katrina group president and fox business contributor gary b. smith, and foxnews.com columnist and fox news contributor liz peek joining us. liz, i want to go back to a couple weeks, there was thain investors call, that conference call, les moonves was on. all of the analysts there, every single analyst did not do his or

her duty by asking les moonves about this event which eventually led to his dismissal and it will affect the future of the company. what does that say about analysts? >> well, look, i think they were, it was the elephant in the room for sure. david: not a single question about his problems. >> that first report in the new yorker would be the end of it and somehow he would manage to put humpty dumpty back together again. what happened a second report came out with a lot more women chiming in. even though a lot of these incidents took place back in the '90s and early 2000s, these are really horrible stories and i think now we have to look at, charlie covered a lot of it, certainly what happens to cbs? forget all the courtroom drama. we're really talking about a company losing one of its major players, somebody who has been instrumental in its success. by the way as a shareholder, shareholders have a lot to digest here amongst which is that the company, the company,

not les moonves, is going to be making a 20 million-dollar contribution to various me too related organizations. i think that is sort of offensive. the company doubling down in effect what is already sort of questionable behavior in keeping les moonves. david: talk about questionable behavior, gary, not one analyst asked about this i can't get over that. we spent a full hour from four to five, wasting our time for a question to les moonves about the scandal. not one came. i think everyone of those analysts should be fired. >> well you know, in fact, i think i was on with you the day of or the day after that conference call and you're right and, i think we both agreed that it was just a big club there. most of these analysts are in new york city or have ties to new york city. moonves is obviously a big player there. they don't want to disrupt one

of their own. it was all this buddy, buddy system, you're absolutely right. what does that say for their integrity? i give them a big fat f. melissa: yep, exactly. stick around, guys. trade talks between the u.s. and canada continuing in hopes to come to a deal on nafta next week. ed lawrence at the white house with the latest. edward. reporter: not just nafta. we're talking about a lot of trade deals, european union and china. specifically on china the president could impose $25 billion of tariffs on chinese goods at any point this week. the chinese responding to that, saying in a statement quote, from the foreign minister's office, the chinese side will surely take countermeasures to safeguard our legitimate rights and interests. the president says china refuses to protect american companies intellectual property or lower tariffs. china already said in august they're prepared to put tariffs on pretty much everything the u.s. imports into china. the chinese retaliation tariffs

right now are meant to target the president's base, mainly farmers. >> he believes our farmers, our workers can compete against anybody around the globe. the problem is we have to have those tariffs come down and the president will fight for the, american workers and american businesses to make sure that happens. reporter: one huge deal that farmers are watching is nafta. i've been able to confirm that tomorrow the canadian minister of foreign affairs, chrystia free land, will be here in washington, d.c. to talk to u.s. representative lighthizer to talk about revised deal, revised nafta, something the white house is watching closely. >> we continue to have on going conversations with the canadians and are still hopeful we'll come to an agreement with them. reporter: my trade sources are telling me believe once one trade deal is made here with the administration the others will fall in line. today the european trade representative met with the

european counterpart. the european union and they are ready to stop tariffs to zero on autos. president says, that is not good enough. we need autos and agriculture and other sectors. melissa. melissa: thank you. david: apple shares ending the day in the red after president trump warn the tech company to move production to the u.s. if it wants to avoid tariffs on chinese good. deirdre bolton in the noose room with more on this. deirdre. >> that's right, david. in a saturday morning tweet, president trump said if it wants to avoid tariffs on its products it should make them here in the united states. apple prices may increase because of massive tariffs it may be imposing on china but there is easy solution, zero tax or tax incentive, make your products in the u.s. instead of china. start bidding new plants now. exciting #maga. most think the tweet was in response to apple's filing with the u.s. trade representative that the proposed trump

administration additional $200 billion on chinese goods would affect its watch, wireless headphones, marc mini computer, chargers, a adapters, specialized manufacturing machinery. really the first time apple came out saying american consumers will feel this there will be specific damage from a trade tiff. trade experts of course pointing out that apple is particularly vulnerable to trade tariffs because it can be hurt with both edges of the sword. apple manufactures so much of the products in china and exports them to the u.s. where they would be hit but apple has a sizable business in china which the chinese could target for retaliation of u.s. trade actions. apple's statement, i want to bring up part of it for context. tariffs increase the cost of u.s. operations, divert our resources, disadvantage apple compared to foreign competitors. more broadly tariffs will lead to higher u.s. consumer prices, lower overall u.s. economic growth and other unintended economic consequences. one thing to note the iphone

not affected by proposed tariffs yet or that calculation has not yet been made but that product does account for 2/3 of apple's total sales. no matter what, david, we can be sure apple would have rather almost any other week to have this conversation. the big annual product day is wednesday. apple watchers there will be four new versions of iphones, tons of other products. i'm sure the company would rather we be talking about that. melissa: no doubt. david: damned if they do, damned if they don't though. either the u.s. or china. thank you very much, deirdre. melissa: gary and liz are back with us. liz, i know this creates pain in the short term, like with this situation with apple, but we sort of have to go through this in order to get right with all of these different crazy trade agreements that we have. is there another way? >> well, no. in terms of getting to where president trump wants which is in fact more things being produced in the united states and lesser barriers to our exports from around the world --

melissa: lesser barriers, it is not even necessarily about producing here but freer, fairer trade everywhere. >> more access to foreign markets and i think that what makes the nafta conversation really important. i would love to see the canada talks go well. i would love to see that put to bed which i think we're very close to doing. by the way, the eu, we have seen progress on agriculture. they're talking about increasing imports of beef, something that didn't get much press here. if those two trade agreements get revived and put together, that makes our conversation with china much more forceful. i think that is what has been the plan all along. so, yes, it is difficult but hopefully there is an endgame. melissa: gary. about, do do you agree with that especially the last part, all of this mishagash, this is the model and what we need to do.

>> i appreciate anyone approaching the a little yiddish into the question. melissa: happy new year. >> i will take a step back. i think in particular, in particular especially with apple everyone is moving their chess pieces around. there will be so many holes in any universal trade agreement, it will be like swiss cheese. take the example of apple. first of all as deirdre said, it will hardly affect their iphone, that is 2/3 of their sale. second of all they will never move production here as long as they can do it cheaper f they can't do it in cheaper in china they will outsource to another country eventually. i think this is a big nothing for apple. sure they're saying this, trump is saying that. eventually the products, mostly will be source, outsourced off c, at the end of the day, even if the tariffs do fully 100% affect apple they have so much pricing power.

i disagree everyone take their eye off the ball. everyone will focus on the product announcement. is the next iphone $900, $975, people don't care. that is how much they love apple. >> is already a crazy stuff. david: by the way liz peek has a great piece in foxnews.com, obama taking credit for the trump economy. great piece. melissa: good plug. good plug. david: how far will president trump go to find leakers and rebels in the white house? sarah sanders wrapping up the press briefing. the latest on the search for anonymous and president trump's new message for bob woodward. melissa: john bolton giving his first major speech since joining the trump administration. the national security advisor's word of warning for enemies of the united states. david: millions of americans all over the east coast are bracing for a monster category 4 hurricane. a fourth state just declaring a state of emergency as the storm

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air force one between billings, montana and fargo, north dakota, that attorney general jeff sessions should look into who the person was. at the press briefing a short time ago, i asked sarah huckabee sanders what ground there might be to do that. listen here. is there anything about the what was published by "the new york times" that would warrant an investigation by the department of justice? certainly if there is an individual, whether or not, since we don't know who they are, if that individual is in meetings where national security is being discussed or other important topics, and, they are attempting to undermine the executive branch, that would certainly be problematic and something that the department of justice should look into. reporter: kentucky senator rand paul said last week he would administer lie-detector tests to top senior administration officials here at white house to find out if they were telling the truth. talking to chris wallace on "fox news sunday," vice president mike pence said he would be happy to do that. sarah sanders said no

lie-detector tests are currently being administered or even contemplated. the president continued to go off on the bob woodward book calling it a joke. his claims have been denied by general kelly, general james mattis, the secretary of defense. bob woodward sticking by his guns, don't believe them, believe me. if woodward is wrong, would the president consider suing him for libel? listen to what the press secretary said? >> we've been extremely clear from the beginning many of the book's sources have already spoken out to refute a couple of them. chief of staff john kelly, aggressively pushed back on this. general mattis aggressively pushing back on the claims. john dowd also pushing back against the things that are attributed to him. a number of people have come out and said that woodward never reached out to corroborate statements that were attributed to them, which seems incredibly

reckless for a book to make such outrageous claims, to not even take the time to get a 10-dollar fact checker -- reporter: i think bottom line here, david, nobody is going to be suing anybody over the woodward book. how many white houses gone through this in the past. the white house is turning attention towards emergency management with florence churning off the east coast. the president has some big briefings on that tomorrow. david: news cycle doesn't last long. john roberts, thank you very much. melissa: a hurricane is a lot more important. joining to us react, dan henninger "wall street journal" editorial page. he is the deputy editor and also a fox news contributor. it is interesting to look how much they care about finding this person or not. if it is someone within the real inner circle, pence, sessions you really want to find them. if it's a low level person who cares. so how do they know? >> i don't think they have any idea where this person came from or where they might be a at this moment. i don't believe in the the

least -- the "times" described it as a senior administration official. melissa: right. >> like a lot of other things that could mean anything these days t could be an sis is assistant secretary in the environmental protection agency. melissa: right. >> they have got to drop this and get it behind them. it is becoming a complete distraction. there is much better things to do including the hurricane. this is just turning into a wheel spinning exercise. melissa: so i love the president's tweet. it is third one, you guys, the white house is a smooth-running machine. we're making -- a smooth-running machine? if that were true, it wouldn't be so much fun to watch. it is a lot of things that are fantastic and crazy. it is not a smooth-running machine. >> kind of like being at a drag race. >> i love it. >> you take off, you don't know whether the cars will go straight or not but they're going 250 miles an hour. it's a lot of fun. it is a machine. it does function. it does operate. they just announced today they're closing palestinian authority office in washington.

national security advisor john bolton gave a speech denouncing international criminal court. they are getting things done. melissa: yeah. >> i don't think they're being distracted by this, but no one ever suggests it's a with well-oiled machine. melissa: ridiculous. smooth-running machine i think is the direct quote. he is tweeting about bob woodward's book is a joke. another assault against me and on and on. the bob woodward is really sad the president is not tweeting on him more. he counted of being on the main target of president's abuse in order to sell books. this isn't working out the way hoped at all? >> i think woodward did get overrun by this anonymous story. melissa: yes. >> it was "the washington post." i got to say "the new york times" found a way to trump "the washington post"'s primary piece of news at the moment. you knowed would ward, anonymous source, it's a fascinating subject because he originator of "deep throat." that proved to be true.

fast forward to the russian collusion story 18 months ago. totally based on anonymous sources none of which any of us were able to identify. no one had any idea who these anonymous sources were. in some ways bob woodward has become kind of a reflection of the times we live in no one has to identify themselves in a story. melissa: yeah. is that right? >> no, it's wrong. the really, the bar dropped way too far. i think the public out there has become to doubt a lot of these stories. frankly as we were just suggesting, they don't even think the woodward accounts are real, that he made them up. i don't believe he made this stuff up but a lot of the public because of anonymity of these people are accorded think it is all fictitious. melissa: dan heninger, always fantastic. >> good to be with you. melissa: david? david: south of the border the venezuelan government is screaming over possible secret meetings between rebel military officials and members of the trump administration so what happens now? president trump is not

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the market will crash, it will never recover. nancy pelosi saying that the tax cuts would lead to an armageddon, an economic armageddon, "the l.a. times," if trump thinks he can get more than 3% growth he is dreaming. these people were so wrong, why should we believe that president obama is now right? >> i think, listen i think we should all be pretty happy where the economy is right now. fallacy in thinking donald trump all that had much to do with it. let me finish -- david: you knew i was going to yum in. >> i sure in. i've been on the show once or twice before. david: go ahead. >> we're in history, one of longest periods of economic expansion going on nine years right now. david: yes. >> donald trump has been president for less than two years. so you do the math. it didn't start under him. david: we have done the math. kayleigh, so have people inside the white house of course. kevin hassett, one of his chief economists was at the press

briefing. let's listen to a little what he said. >> i think that if anyone were to assert that the capital spending boom we're seeing right now right now the trend president trump inherited, they wouldn't get a high grade in graduate school for that assertion. david: you could do a lot with charts and so forth. but the fact is, as christie correctly said the recovery began almost as soon as president obama came into office. the bottom of the recession was march 2009. he came in january 2009. so the economy essentially had nowhere to go but up, but it didn't really pop in investment until president trump came in the office. >> david, that is exactly right. let's be clear, president obama oversaw the slowest economic recovery since world war ii. those are the facts. $17,000 is what the average worker lost because of how slow that recovery was. when president trump came in, there was a sea change in the economic winds and kevin hassett today showed eight charts that

are undeniable, those are facts that business investment was going down, then it went up. capital orders and shipment was going down, then it went up. small business optimism was going down, went up when president trump came into office. the facts are undeniable. i understand my colleagues on the left taking credit for the economy. it's a pretty good one. david: it is a great economy. i don't think many people would disagree. bottom line, when president obama came into office, even though we were in recession he raised taxes and increased regulations enormously. that had never been done in my lifetime coming into a recession. the president usually makes it easier to do business, not more difficult. when trump came into office he lowered regulations dramatically. he got taxes to come down. can't you see that policy significance is different with regard to growth? >> hard to argue with the result they go though. to go back- david: the result we're now over 4%. with obama we never got over 3%. >> that is actually not true. it is true.

>> we were over 4% with reagan and other presidents. this will shock you, but that, again donald trump likes to take credit even for things that weren't all of his doing. so if you look at numbers, it actually tell as very different tale. the last couple years of barack obama's presidency creating 200,000 jobs. david: policies matter. that is my point, christie, policies matter. >> i'm not sure they do. that is my point actually. david: wow, okay. i hate to quote you on that. >> i'm not sure there is any policy donald trump implemented is what i'm saying that made a marked difference. david: lowering regulations dramatically, making it easier to do business. it is not rocket science. very simple. >> one more analogy. david: thank you. melissa: taking a hard-line. u.s. putting out a strong warning head of reports that syria is planning a new chemical attack on their own people. something north korea didn't

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the trump administration. take lacen. >> the trump administration will not keep the office open when the palestinians refuse to take steps to start direct and meaningful negotiations with israel. the united states supports a direct and robust peace process and we will not allow the icc or any other organization to constrain israel's right to self-defense. melissa: joining me now to discuss all of this is michael o'hanlon, brookings institute foreign policy senior fellow. that is one of the sound bites from that press conference but another one that really struck our attention was he was talking about the response around the world to what will happen if assad or if syria unleashes chemical weapons on its own people again, saying that the world will not stand by and watch. the response needs to be at least as strong as last time, if not stronger. what are your thoughts on that? what should the response be? >> i support what mr. bolton said but it is not that strong

of a statement because we know we can dot standoff attacks with relative impunity to our own forces frankly with only modest effect on president assad's forces. if you are trying to sound tougher, you are worried about the looming offensive in the province of idlib in northwestern syria you might state, we will not allow barrel bombing. we will not allow helicopters to fly above apt buildings to drop barrels full of nails. even if it is just traditional tnt and shrapnel. these indiscriminate attacks against civilians are what we should be targeting. to assad we'll retaliate a manner our choosing any such indiscriminate action whether chemical weapons or any kind of ordnance. melissa: okay. >> as far as what was said today was fine. it just doesn't go as far. melissa: north korea holding a

military parade in honor of country's 70th anniversary. with one glaring omission. they left out the long ballistic missiles which usually are in the event. this steps toward reunification with south korea, something president trump thanked chairman kim for on twitter. we also got word today apparently a letter was delivered to the president from chairman kim asking for another meeting. what's your take on that? >> generally speaking i'm supportive of this process but a lot of people are not supportive because they don't see any proof that it is producing any real results. you're right, the north korean icbm, a long-range rocket that theoretically could reach the united states was not in the military parade. kim is pretty good at the charm offensive stuff but he hasn't given up much capability so far. i want to give him credit for not testing long-range missiles

and shutting down some installations temporarily. he hasn't stopped making bombs. he hasn't dismantled conventional military. he is interested in giving a little and getting a lot in the form of sanctions relief. we need to keep the pressure up. i support president trump's decision to cancel the trip scheduled by secretary pompeo for next round of negotiations. we need a little bit of tough love as we try to maintain a positive atmosphere. melissa: there is cancellation. snap back bense that, then kim sending a letter and wanting another meeting. there this is progress from where we were but we need to see something solid is what you're saying? >> exactly right. the u.n. general assembly meetings are coming up in new york in two weeks. in theory kim could come to that as foreign heads of state often do. there could be a small meeting with south korean and japanese leaders. you could imagine that. i would not have a big summit unless there is something to

push along in the way of concrete progress in the negotiations. melissa: michael o'hanlon. thank you for your insight today. good stuff. david: we got a few americans back. melissa: that was something. that's true. david: millions stand in the path of the storm. we have a live update from our weather center. also the president's response after the break. ♪ .

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storm. >> hi, david. this morning, early this morning from category two to category 4. you see a defined eyewall. winds spinning. this is south of bermuda. this is the track it is going to be taking. as you see it move closer and closer to the coast, keeps up that intensity. still a category 4 storm until all the way off the coast. this is early thursday morning 8:00 a.m., winds 140, 1 miles an hour off the coast. strong winds liking make landfall thursday, early friday morning. this is could speed up or slow down. we'll get a better idea on the timing next couple days but it is going to be strong. winds somewhere between 130 and 156 miles an hour. it will make landfall as category 4 storm, what is the models are suggesting. we have a big high pressure

system isn't letting that happen. here is all the tropical models, pretty widespread here. you're looking from myrtle beach, south carolina to the outer banks. all areas where this eventually could be making landfall. the question will be what happens once we get there? several models take it inland. others have it slow down and hover along the coast. david that will make a huge difference for rain. this will be a huge wind maker, and storm surge will be a big issue. david: looks bad, take precautions. thanks adam. melissa: possible coup in venezuela. secret meetings between the rebel government and military officials. the latest on the growing crisis there next.

david: venezuela denouncing u.s. interference after a report that trump the administration officials were discussing coup

plans with venezuelan military officers tired of the maduro regime. vanessa neumann, president and ceo of asymmetric car, author of blood profits, how american consumers unwittingly fund terrorists. vanessa, good to see you. these reports came in "the new york times." so i have to ask you, do you believe them? >> yeah, of course i believe them. it is absolutely an open secret there are many people within the military, many people within the political parties that want maduro out. in fact there are opposition leaders, political opposition leaders who used to say oh, no, please, no u.s. interference. they are today at the u.n. security council meeting for international coalition for military intervention because the problem is so big. 30 million people are starving and a serious exodus. david: there was an attack, president, his wife, other dignitaries were there. as he was speaking, appeared to

be a drone attack, explosion on a drone. could military leaders, reb bet talking to the u.s. have been responsible for this? >> i don't know. from what i understand. it was internal. i frankly think if the americans were involved it would be better organized. we had been hearing, those of us who have friends down there, i'm originally from venezuela had been hearing something might happen. there have been many attempts. they have imprisoned 82 of their own military commanders for coup attempts. i want to make one comment about the morning times article though. david: sure. >> we found it really irresponsible. the blaring headline, because in the end the americans did not support it. the blaring headline was concerned with anti-trump, it looked like it was written by the regime itself. david: there is a problem though, "the times" had a lot of good information. one was that, some of the people

that they're talking to some of these military people have very checkedder past. working with chavez instead of maduro is not different in the dictatorial instincts. some are working with drug dealers as well. these are bad dudes the president would say. >> correct. here is the thing, we, many people in the diaspora, majority of venezuelans are pleading for people to come in and do something. what you would have to do, excise a whole group. how do you do it? , who takes their place. they have found corrupt. they can't stop infighting. the other people you make a deal are horrible. david: hard to choose. i want to switch further south of the bored tour argentina because they're going through a crisis, not as bad as venezuela thank goodness. they need emergency loan from the imf.

the imf said they will only give it to them if they raise taxes. i asked larry kudlow about that, they would rather deal with the u.s. treasury than the world bank or the imf. here is how he responded. >> the treasury is deeply involved in this discussion, deeply involved, which is a great thing. and, as you and i learn and others, only way out of the argentine dilemma, set up currency board, the peso links to the dollar but you can't create a single new peso. david: 20 seconds, is it better for argentina to work with the u.s. treasury than the imf? >> many sides to this. if you're from latin america you have a strong distaste for the imf, right? especially countries that had leftist governments like they had, and blame chavez all of those guys rose on the back of imf loans. for them to make a loan it is like a bad headache.

it's a bad memory for most argentines. working with the u.s. is a little better. david: we have to leave it at that, vanessa. i'm so sorry. we have run out of time. i appreciate it. a lot to chew on there. see you next time. >> thank you. >> the u.s. open may be over but the talk surrounding it is just heating up. why serena williams is upset by more than just her loss.

melissa: serving up controversy, serena williams leaves u.s. open with a loss and a $17,000 find for three code violations during the final against osaka. david: fined for her coach attempting to instruct her, smashing her racket on the court, and calling the umb umpia thief. melissa: we were there, it played differently, it did feel

like serena was getting robbed. one of my son had a radio in his ear, he thought osaka was in the right. david: she was forced to tears because of serena. melissa: sad all the way, there you go, here is the "evening edit." >> hous white house has been in contact with offices and local in georgia, south carolina, north carolina, virginia, west virginia, maryland, delaware, pennsylvania, new jersey, and new york just since saturday morning, lines of communication remain open and federal government stands ready to assist. tropical storms and hurricane are very dangerous, we encourage anyone in past to heed warnings of state and local officials to proceed best on ground information. >> now a million people are being evacuated from the carolinas, white house and east coast brace could for a