confidence continues to really move higher and really strong territory. [closing bell rings] liz: okay. >> you look at gdp numbers. liz: all right. we have to run. tim thank you so much. tim courtney. that will do it for us. apple closes slightly down on a big day. david: a big day when optimism reins on wall street. optimism surging that the u.s. is proposing a new round of trade talks with china but it did come down towards the end of the day. it is up about 27 points. it is off session highs. s&p 500 fighting for green. weakness in tech is pushing nasdaq deep into the red. i'm david asman. melissa: i'm melissa francis. this is "after the bell." we have more on the big market movers but here is what else we're covering in this very busy hour ahead. bracing for impact. a monster hurricane taking aim at the eastern seaboard. nearly two million people have been told to head to safer ground. states of emergencies have been

declared across four states. we are live on the ground along the carolina coast and in the weather center with the latest. meantime apple is unveiling the brand new slate of iphones, including the company's largest phone ever. it is gigantic. the big takeaways from cupertino coming up. a major trade headline moving markets today. "the wall street journal" reporting that the u.s. is proposing a new round of trade talks with china. we're going to ask white house economic advisor larry kudlow about this and new positive data on jobs and growing middle class income. that is coming up right away. david: let's get back to the markets quickly. the dow closing in positive territory for the second day in a row but it did come down from triple digits. nicole petallides on floor of the new york stock exchange. nicole, kind of a seesaw day. >> we had a seesaw day. we had optimism about possible negotiations for the u.s. and china. we finished up 28 points.

had been up 174. had been down about 40. we did finish green as did the s&p 500. though nasdaq dropped 18 points. when you look at the dow jones industrial average. looking at 3m in particular came under pressure, down 2.3%. the cfo actually made some, over at morgan stanley's conference saying that he sees industrial organic growth in the bottom half of the guidance. that is not good news. that pressured the stock overall. tech and media taking a look at this. you have tech companies that will appear september 26th talking to the senate to really examine safeguards for consumer privacy, also to meet new regulations requirements of eu in california. how they will do that. most of them finished in the red. twitter, facebook, google. twitter down 3.7%. snap, new low of 8.90. it was still down 7%.

another analyst cut there. taking a look at tesla which gained today up, almost 4% right there. mixed bag. first of all, short time ago we had another resignation. vice president of worldwide finance and operations says it is parting ways. this comes after last week you remember the chief accounting officer leaving, though tried to leave with some positive comments. you have a big investor, institutional investor saying they are working with elon musk and that he is getting there on the idea of maybe having some help to lead this company. back to you. david: he made need help in other areas as well. nicole, thank you. melissa: coming back to the table. the u.s. and china are gearing up for another round of trade talks as tariff concerns remain high. according to a "wall street journal" report. joining us from the white house is larry kudlow, national economic council director. sir, thank you so much for joining us. how would you characterize these talks? >> well, it is just an

invitation as far as i know. there is some discussions and information that we received that the chinese government, the top of the chinese government wished to pursue talks. melissa: okay. >> and so we, secretary mnuchin who is the team leader with china, has apparently issued an invitation. i can't give you many details because there aren't many details but, you know, melissa, i always believe in most cases talking is better than not talking so i regard this as a plus. melissa: how do you regard the rest of the trade talks going on right now? how would you characterize what is going on with mexico and canada? we get these reports in bits and pieces, as you well know the market is hanging on every word. >> mexico, we basically have an agreement in principle i think will last. that came together what, a week or so ago, 10 days or so, give

bob lighthizer and jack christian a lot of credit. canadian thing is still a little slow. we're trying to get some breakthroughs. you heard me say, one of the big problems, i'm not negotiating that directly, one of the big problems with canada is a four-letter word, m-i-l-k. if they would give in. they have tariffs, supply management system, subsidies, price controls, oh, my gosh they will have to give n there are other issues, i will not have to go through that. i will however, say we have a very productiontive meeting with my countter part and others with germany. this is a economic dialogue. we spent several hours together talking about a range of issues. including trade and the need to liberalize trade and break down barriers and the united states and germany joined together hopefully to send a good message to china and others who continue

to persist with unfair trading practices. so the net-net of the net is, i would say things look rather better, melissa on the world trade front. david: well, larry, every day we get better news on the economy. seems today, job openings exceed unemployed americans once again in july. that is something that up until now never happened in my lifetime, but we had another month of that. this isn't a goldilocks economy. this is a daddy bear economy. so far beyond goldilocks. and of all things, we have a former president taking credit for it all. what do you make of president obama's taking credit for this daddy bear economy? >> well it's a free country. i assume they play his stuff on twitter, do they? they don't let everyone on twitter. >> oh, oh. >> oh, i'm opening up another wound. let me say a couple things. david: sure. >> i don't want to politicize

this. i will make one remark with respect to the timing. it is not a coincidence that literally on the day after the election in november 2016 we saw the beginning of a remarkable string of steady record increases, in all manner of consumer confidence and small business confidence and by the by, we just got another number, the nfib small business confidence is making another record high. those trends began just about the day after the election. and i think president trump has said during the campaign and right afterwards the war against business is over. the war against energy is over. the war against success is over and we're going to move towards tax cuts and deregulation rather than tax hikes and more

state-run economy. i will leave that there. david: yeah. >> to your other question which i just love, something called the quit rate is rising. that means people are confident enough that they're willing to quit one job in order to get another. david: yeah. >> which is a testament not only of jobs coming in but the wages are rising, and that brings me to another point. not only are paychecks getting fatter but blue-collar paychecks, blue-collar employment is leading the charge in this expansion. david: but larry -- >> hang on david. david: quickly. >> we've not seen this kind of blue-collar run since 1984 when i was hanging around here last under ronald reagan. david: all these figures go back to decades. leave "new york times" to find a cloud with all the silver lining stuff going on. they come out and knock the

unemployment figures and jobs numbers, americans want to believe jobs are the solution to poverty. they're not. so according to "the new york times" these jobs numbers don't really mean anything to the average american. what do you think of that? >> i think i would rather have one than not. melissa: [laughter] >> yeah i think i would rather have a job giving me a fatter paycheck after tax, after inflation. i love "the new york times." they're certainly entitled to their point of view. the best part of the story if we do media stuff, "the washington post" ran the story on the blue-collar jobs explosion. that was "the washington post." as you know, david, a well-known supply side media organ. melissa: no, no. >> sorry, missy, i was really happy to see that. the serious point here, the serious point here is, rolling back taxes, helping business, helping energy, rolling back regulations, that stuff is working. it is taking hold.

and we are now entering into a capital goods business spending boom. productivity, more capital per worker, better training, people coming out, out out out of the k to get a job. they see how good the jobs are. anybody that think this is is one-off, anybody thinks this is just 4% second quarter. think again. melissa: i'll tell you, larry, the thing they're worried about though what is going on with all the different trade agreements. even if we're heading right direction we're all trying to get fairer, freer trade it will take time to get there. this is what behind swipes your and mine, jamie dimon, who went out and made the swipe against the president, saying that he could beat him. he is just as tough but, you know, and there have been a lot of hay made about that i know that jamie has inloved the president and his policies when

he saw the economic expansion. he was in huge favor, i wonder has the trade problem gotten under his skin. why do you think he made remarks, how do you take them? >> i'm a big fan of jamie dimon and a friend down through the years. he has been very kind to me, including my transition to this position. i will leave that to jamie. regarding trade, what i would say is this. tariff barriers, zero subsidies, lower the barriers, let's play by the rules. this is particularly aimed at china which is the worst offender stealing technology and so forth and so on. the president is determined. he inherited a broken trading system, okay? that is important. the world trade organization needs to be reformed. china need a complete overhaul. other countries, including our allies, we can all do better f we lower trade barriers, and

give the united states a chance to export, we will do great because we're the most competitive economy in the world right now. we are killing it on the economy. melissa: larry i know how you feel about free trade. i don't want -- >> this is the precursor to free trade. you are going to have, president trump inherited a broken system and as i have said a million times, blaming trump is not right. he is trying to fix something that nobody wanted to touch the last 20 years. melissa: larry, though, you swear that that is what he is after? because there are people out there who still don't believe that. he believe he is protectionist from way back. that he wants to build walls everywhere including on trade. i know you believe in no trade barriers like you said, and no subsidies. you really believe in your heart that is what the president wants and believes? >> i believe it in my heart. i believe it in my head. i talked to him a million times. look, he is a trade reformer. that is a real hard thing to do. i acknowledge that, melissa.

melissa: yeah. >> and i acknowledge that a lot of people are critical, they prefer the status quo. i think the president trump is absolutely right. i think he is doing the lord's work. doesn't judge this, basically his campaign on trade reform, i will say it is about five or six months old. we did the tax cuts last year. give it a chance. break throughs in mexico, good movement in europe, maybe canada, i don't know. more talks in china. more talks in japan. these things are hard to do. give him a chance. i do not believe there is a case to be made that the president's trade reform efforts are damaging the american economy. quite the contrary, quite the contrary. he is acting in the best interests of the u.s. workforce and so forth. but look, the story, this year

in 2018 is not about fiction alizeed versions of the white house. the story is about a economic boom that virtually everybody said was impossible, but in fact it is happening, and it is picking up steam. melissa: larry we know you well. we know you wouldn't work if that were the case. if he weren't for the right things, you would not be there. we and david known you for a long time. >> that is correct. with respect i hear my critics, president's critics, i understand different points of view. i understand therer. give it a chance. he is a very good negotiator. he is heartfelt, hands on. you know what? i still believe the tide will turn in that direction, when it does, believe me, the u.s. economy, the u.s. workforce, main street, everywhere will benefit and the other countries who participate in ha free trade system will also benefit. this would be good for the rest of the world. melissa: yeah. >> so give it a chance. right now --

david: are we going to have zero tariffs? larry, are we going to have zero tariffs? >> well that is my goal and the president's goal. that is a good goal to have. that is the high ground as a trade reforrer. nobody has done this, david in 20 years. they made noises about china but never followed through. why not give president trump credit for doing the right thing. look at the performance of our economy. what am i going to say? blue collars and fatter paychecks, how is that for a close? melissa: we love it, larry. thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. david: appreciate it. now another major story we're following, hurricane florence it is now a category 3 storm heading towards the coast of the carolinas, fox news meteorologist adam klotz is live in the weather center with the very latest on the storm's path. adam. >> hey, david. the storm weakened just a little bit this afternoon but don't think that it will be any less impactful.

climbed from a cat-3 where it weakened back up to a cat-4. off the coast of carolina, friday morning. you see a slow move. that is saturday morning. it is just sitting there, bringing with it a whole lot of rain. i talked about the actual storm itself. eyewall getting friday morning. when do we see effects? everything you're looking in yellowish orange color. those are tropical force winds. those are pushing on by lunchtime tomorrow, as you head into overnight hours, early into friday morning. winds only intensifies and spins and spins and spins, slowly working its way down the coast. women's are in wilmington, perhaps 60 hours. with that you're getting rain and with that storm surge. storm surge will be an issue. nine to 13 feet in some areas. this could be pushed well inland because we're spending so much time. everything in white or pink colors, those are the spots where the storm surge could be greatest amount depending where

this storm eventually works its way to shore. the other thing, when a storm sits still this long, when you start to see numbers climb up. it will depend where specifically it makes landfall. we'll see some spots getting up to 20, 30 inches of rain. david, this is going to be a wind event. looking more and more with the storm surge and rain and flooding, water event people dealing with throughout the entire weekend. david: we'll be on it. thank you very much, adam. melissa: more on what is being called the storm after lifetime. a look how the carolina coast is preparing for hurricane florence. david: a new twist in the battle over judge kavanaugh's confirmation. liberal activists pressuring senator susan collins with what she is denouncing as a million dollar bribe. melissa: apple unveiling largest iphone ever, more details and more from apple's main event in california. that's next. ♪

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david: the most expensive iphone ever. ample apple's big reveal in the steve jobs theater, drumming up hype for the new flagship iphones including the iphone x xs max is biggest, most expensive iphone ever. hillary vaughn outside the apple headquarters in cupertino, california with the latest. hi, hillary. reporter: david, this is the second year in a row apple beat their own record-setting price for the iphone, unveiling the iphone x xs max. this is the iphone xs max. the reason why super user-friendly. display is bigger but size of a

plus. real cool phone editing features. this wasn't available without additional software. you can bring the background from out of focus to super into focus while keeping the person in the photo clear. you can store up to 200,000 photos on your device. it takes the highest quality video of any smartphone ever. app speed is 30% faster. it also has esync technology which means you can have two phone numbers and sim cards on the device. this is little brother to the iphone x. tim cook closing out event the way to get iphone to more customers hands. delivering iphone x experience and edge to edge display like the iphone x but comes in wild colors we haven't seen on iphone before, including coral, yellow and red. probably the coolest perk, iphone xs is waterproof and beer

proof up to 30 meters for ten minutes. >> in water, saltwater, orange juice, tea, wine, even beer. this is some of the most fun, intense testing we get to do at apple. reporter: we also got some major updates for the apple watch series 4 with a major health makeover. the device for the first time ever for any wearable device is fda approved. it can take an electrocardiogram. you can send the date too to your doctor. it is approved by the american heart association. this is game changer for wearable device but also for the apple watch which hasn't seen this update. the series 4 can detect if someone falls. they contact emergency services and send gps location and identify the emergency person on your watch that they can sent an emergency response. david: beer-proof, i like the sound of that. melissa. melissa: we have michael nunez,

national deputy tech editor alexandria bass, tech editor for the economist. thank you for joining us. i had a friend threw his iphone x into a pool to prove it is waterproof and it survived. in terms of the things you've heard about these devices, and how much they cost is this enough after step forward for apple in your mind? >> i think it is. for most peep, if you have the iphone x you probably don't need to upgrade to the 10 s. the rule of thumb for apple products if there is an s at the end of the name it is probably upgrade from previous iteration. if you have a 10 you will not need the new phones. these however are the best of class smartphones. camera is ridiculously nice. the screen itself is ridiculously nice. the thing will people pay more than $1000 for the iphone, for the iphone xs max.

melissa: alexandria, when you see the budget model is $476 as if this that is cheap. only 26% of the u.s. phone market is held by apple, which makes it seem like there is a lot of room to grow. what is your take? >> well, apple has always had the strategy of going high-end. they have never been the budget model. they are pushing people to a higher price. of the average price of a iphone is $755. to put that into context, that is about a quarter more than it was five years ago. all these new features come at a price. apple users are extremely loyal, and so when people are ready to upgrade which a lot of people are, they will look to apple. a lot of, 60% of apple users have had their iphone more than two years. so they will be looking at this cycle and i think be willing to

pay. melissa: michael, the 10 s max, 6.5-inch screen. that is huge device. do you have to be visually impaired or playing games? >> it's a lot bigger than previous iphones. funny when you go back to the old steve jobs keynotes, the ideal phone would fit in the palm of your hand, reach across the screen with your thumb. original iphones were ideal size and everyone could hold them and reach across the screen with one hand. that is simply not the case for these phones. they are noticely better than a lot of phones on the market. for me its about the camera. a lot of young people look to intragram, facebook, snapchat. a lot of social media applications rely on taking good photos and good video. the iphone xs has the best camera. melissa: thank you. david: you can't put it in your pocket. that is the bottom line. you can't put something that big

in your pocket. >> so what? david: well a lot of people for convenience sake want something they can slip in their pocket. melissa: i don't know, i love it. david: that is the not huge one. melissa: i think i will get even bigger one. and i need a new purse. perfect. david: while you're at it, new shoes. talk about expensive, chicago has a very expensive plan on the table. what the democratic mayor has up his sleeve, that could end up damaging the city, it is so expensive. residents in the path of the storm are boarding up their windows and leaving grocery store shelves completely empty. what can we expect from the monster storm? we have a live update from the ground in north carolina right after the break. different box. and the bandits, well, they got rocks. we protected your money then and we're dedicated to helping protect it today. like alerting you to certain card activity

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>> i understand that the rain may last for days and not hours. this may be a marathon, not a sprint. this storm threatens life. melissa: hurricane florence

taking aim at the carolina coast, expected to make landfall in the next 48 hours. fox news's rick leventhal live in wrightsville beach in north carolina. rick, what are you seeing there? reporter: a lot of businesses boarded up especially these along the intracoastal. governor says this is good day to evacuate. people are heeding warnings and tied up their boats. we see a lot of nice boats on wrightsville beach. we don't know how they will fare. we'll find out next couple days. this bridge is the only beach connecting wrightsville beach to wilmington. police will close the beach at 8:00 tonight. no one will be able to get on the beach at 8:00 tonight. anyone on the beach can get out but they will need to get out soon. as of tomorrow, conditions are suppose toed deteriorate considerably.

we could have a storm surge 13 feet high. a lot of structures here will be in or under water. that is a big concern not just here but along the coast as heavy rains pound this state over the next two or three days. melissa: wow. rick, stays safe. it looks beautiful there now. always way it is. david: very deceptive. calm before the storm. joining us is former fema deputy director mark mishak. thank you for coming in. how deadly could this storm get? >> it could be very deadly. obviously states, local, fema, everybody is putting out the right warnings. appreciate the job you're doing here at fox giving enough information about inland flooding. a storm like this pose as significant danger inland where people typically feel safer and may not want to evacuate because they feel they're far enough from the coast. but with the rainfall, high potentials of flash flooding, all warnings in relation to driving through high water and all the other warnings you here are very applicable. david: there is warning which

leads to preparation which we're seeing on the right of the screen. it also counts on individual, on existing infrastructure, whether that infrastructure is strong enough to with stand the heat of the storm. as we found out in puerto rico, the infrastructure, if you have bad infrastructure, you simply have a lot more deaths, right? >> that is absolutely correct. so hopefully with the type of evacuation, everything is being done possible to reduce the loss of life. you know, focus as the storm comes ashore will be life-saving and life-sustaining followed very quickly by a period of them doing disaster assessment in regards to where the damages are and then focusing recovery resources. david: you know after president trump was touting some of the successes that they had in puerto rico despite all the deaths, there was a lot of criticism of him. there was one interview with fema director brock long today where the fema director pushed back on some of that argument. take a look. i want your reaction. >> sure. >> but the fact is, just as

after katrina where there was terrible infrastructure in parts of new orleans, that is a federal responsibility. these are american citizens. >> no, you're actually wrong on that. it is not a federal responsibility to up keep the infrastructure. actually most of the infrastructure in this country is owned by the private sector. fema doesn't control the maintenance of infrastructure. if you remember, when i went back for the third supplemental -- david: is he right? does fema just have to sit back and wait to see if the infrastructure can hold up before they can go in and do any fixing? >> i don't think fema's job is to sit back and wait to do fixing. fema's job is to educate and coordinate in that regard. there's a point to what he was saying about land use choices which are typically made whenever you do zoning and restrictions and building codes. so you know, there are obviously is a longer lens that administrator long is looking at and a message he is trying to get across. we should thought fully think

about how we expand or build or rebuild communities along the coast. david: gotcha. mark, thank you very much for being here. please stay close to us. we appreciate it. >> will do. thank you, david. melissa: progressive activists trying to use cash to force the hand of a key republican senator to vote against judge kavanaugh. how she is fighting back. that's next. ♪

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melissa: bribery and extortion.

that is what susan collins is calling a crowd funding campaign threatening the maine senator with one million dollars to her future opponent if she votes for supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. here to discuss is annika green, former george w. bush speechwriter and "real clear politics" columnist. what is your reaction to this? to a lot of people it sounds really ugly, this idea that the people who donate their credit cards are only charged, money only flows into the account that would be dedicated to this opponent, like at the moment that she votes yes, then they would go ahead and fund this other person. is that what politics has always been like and we're just hearing about it, or is this particularly ugly? >> this is particularly ugly. it sounds like blackmail, doesn't it? democrats are basically furious because they're powerless to do anything about judge kavanaugh's nomination because of rules changes brought to bear by harry

reid. it is kind of ironic. melissa: seems like it might have the opposite impact it was intended. now she is standing up saying i won't be blackmailed. >> right. melissa: she is a senator who feels secure in her seat. you know, does this happen all the time, or even in this election cycle that other people, we don't hear about it, they sort of bow to the pressure? >> i don't think it happens to this level in terms of we will give this money the minute she cast as vote on a particular issue. i think we're seeing new ways of exerting political pressure through fund-raising. that is always a mechanism people have used but, with, you know modern tools, digital technology, fund-raisers like this, we now have the ability to bring that into effect, to the minute someone votes on something. but susan collins is used to living on a knife's edge. she is a moderate republican. she is not a consistent vote on republican issues and both sides know that. yes, you're right, this will have the opposite effect on her, because she wants to vote her

conscience. she is confident based on her long track record she knows how to represent her constituents. she is being told something else. she will not be pushed around this way. melissa: this is the statement she made. her spokes pen, extortion will not work on senator collins. anybody who thinks these tactics will work on senator collins obviously don't know her. she went on to say what you said, she will make up her mind based on the nomination. threats and other attempts to bully her will not play a factor in her decision making whatsoever. does this give us insight where we're headed in 2018? she is not up until 2020 but obviously this is the temperature right now? >> politics is very highenned right now. everything is very hot. because of that we're seeing a lot of comity i expected in past has disappeared. brett kavanaugh is not extremist by any means. i worked with the man. he will be a very supreme occur

justice. he is the type of nominee in the past people on both sides of aisle could have voted on right now. now they see d or r. that is the way they have to go. people don't look at the merits of the individual person. melissa: amazing. appreciate your time. >> thank you. david: guaranteed income, we heard it before. now the windy city is a step closer to giving away money with zero conditions but are taxpayers okay with this? ♪ (guard) i've seen things i shouldn't have.

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david: a hail mary pass for a broken city. chicago mayor rahm emanuel setting up task force to see if the city should issue universal basic income. carol roth, future file legacy creator and former investment banker. carol, are taxpayers okay with this? >> well, the financial

considerations aside, we don't have money to pay for anything this is a ridiculous plan doesn't make sense. the people struggling in chicago don't need another hand out. they need a hand up, david. they need access to better education, to more jobs, to jobs training, to investments in these underserved communities and we somebody to tackle rampant gang violence so all of this matters. david: that is the thing. this is a city, this is a city is at war with the deadly violence that is happening. every week it seems to get worse. are there resources to pay for this? because it will be quite expensive? the primary concern would be safety and this war on violence? >> yes, and certainly there is a economic consideration here but the challenge is, giving somebody money doesn't make them a producer, it makes them a consumer. we need to transition these people from being the consumers to producers and there are great non-profits in chicago doing

this. groups like the north mondale employment network that basically is in an area of the city, north lawndale, that has 23% unemployment. they reentrain people who have been in prison, reenter the workforce, give them financial literacy. that works. if we make investments those are the kind of invests with need to be made. david: carol, you have in this country, 6.9 million job openings, much more than the number of job applicants. i would assume chicago is part or beneficiary of this, or is chicago some black hole all this prosperity is not touching? >> and that is the amazing part. so if you look at north lawndale, 23% unemployment. the rest of the city is 3 to 4% unemployment. because those people don't have the skills. when they look around in their community, they don't understand that there are things that could be going on. so the investment that needs to be made is the good old adage you need to teach somebody to

fish. you can't give them a fish to transition them from a consumer to a producer. david: it is a failure of public education among other things. a shameless failure of public education. carol, great to see you. thank you very much. we appreciate it. good luck. >> thank you. melissa: fourry of florence. time running out for millions of americans that need to get to safety next. next we'll speak to the mayor of mount pleasant, south carolina, for prep ises underway currently in his town and for residents in the path of this monster hurricane. when my hot water heater failed it rocked our world. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do.

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melissa: mike tyson punch to the carolina coast. fema issuing this warning due to severe rainfall and flooding as hurricane florence threatens millions. the national hurricane center reporting that waves as high as

83 feet could occur. south carolina officials urging residents to evacuate and seek shelter as the storm approaches. joining me on the phone. south pleasant south carolina mayor harold haney joins us. >> thank you for having me. melissa: how prepared are you? what are you doing? what is your town like right now? >> we are as prepared as we can be on this level at the government. we don't wait for the changes in the updates for the projected path. once we knew this was coming, starting last weekend, we started full storm preparations and that has continued through today. we're now on 24 hour schedules. we have our emergency operations center up and running. and, and we're on 24 hour operations as it stands. i want to stress, melissa, we have done all we can do as a town and continue to do things like preposition equipment.

we have three operations centers in the geographic towns to set up and respond as quickly as we can. it us up to the citizens to take care of themselves. it is up to citizens to make the smart move, leave now while they can leave. that window to evacuate is rapidly closing. so we just want to ask our citizens to go ahead and evacuate as the governor ordered yesterday. melissa: do you have any sense how many people are taking this seriously? because i hear from people, everyone knows you sort of sit there, you watch the track, people say, well, you know, looks like it is moving in this direction or that, and they try to you know, sort of wait it out and sigh. i know that is the opposite of what you're saying, but do you, how much of a sense do you have that people are really listening? >> well, yesterday, it did not seem like a whole lot of people were listening. we did see businesses change,

businesses close down. we are the fourth largest city in the city of south carolina. we're right next door to charleston. we have 86,000 residents, the big stores, the two wal-marts, some of the drugstores closed down. the starbucks closed down. a lot of chain stores did that so their employees, citizens of ours could evacuate and do what the governor asked us to do. today when people got up and saw this storm may come right down the coast, i saw a lot more people and heard a lot more people taking heed to evacuate. that of course was always the smart thing to do. melissa: do you ask local businesses to do that, to close so that people can, their employees can leave? and also you know it's a signal to residents, when you come out, see things, see the starbucks close, time to get out of dodge? >> that's true, and you know the anecdote al wisdom in this part of the country, when you see waffle house close you better run for your life because that

is usually the last thing to close. we ask people to heed the evacuation order. as nice as it is for locally-owned stores to stay open, sell hardware, sell storm preparation supplies, that is very nice but our very first mission, our very first mission is protection of life. as i have said in press conferences all day today. if you go ahead and make the disto get out of the path of this storm, it cannot hurt you. the property is second and recovery is third. but that is why we say, when we get an evacuation order, it is time to evacuate. melissa: yeah. those are wise words. mayor, we are thinking of all of you. we're watching. we're raying for you all -- praying for you all, best of luck. we appreciate it. david: staying home, surviving the storm of a lifetime, we have practical advice how to protect your valuables to ride out the storm with stuff already in your home. you don't want to miss this next.

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melissa: if you are one of millions of americans hunkerring down for florence. david: you could use your washing machine as a cooler. fill it with ice to keep drinks and perishables cold, freeze zip lock bags with water, that the turn to ice, keep your freezer cool if you lose power. also whether ice melts have you more drinking water. if you lose power take flash flights to water bottle or milk jug ir illuminate the room. put water in the tab for flushing toilets. melissa: i didn't know a bunch of those, i didn't think about washing machine. that is a great idea, i damage t think about freezing water.

david: the best thing to do, if you are order to leave, do so. there is not much time left. melissa: all right we'll keep an eye on the storm, the "evening edit" starts right now. >> we're all uncertain. but we're preparing and trying to helpings businesses get prepared. >> this has all of the numbers and recipes for a storm that could do damage. >> i want to hammer that importance this is not going to be a glancing blow, not a tropical storm, not one of those storms that hit and move to sea, this is a mike tyson punch to carolina coast, then heavy rains. >> american people are with you. we will be with you every step of the way through the storm. >> everyone keep your fingers crossed as next 4 or 5 days come about. liz: hundreds of flights have