appreciate it and enjoy it. >> how do you find the dark cloud around the silver lineing. >> always somebody to do exactly that. i'm discounting all of them. i like the good news stories. >> we love it, too. thank you for joining us here. that does it for us this evening. >> "the evening edit" starts right now. >> i have made up my mind i'm voting against judge kavanaugh. i also believe dr. ford. >> i think it's really important in this time and day that we ready when women speak out, we should presume they are innocent. >> he has a chance to be one of the greatest justices ever in the united states supreme court. what a shame. and what a shame it is to so many other people whose world that isn't. it's not his world, not their world. these are legitimate people, they're not in the world of con, and the world of obstruct and the world of resistance. liz: is the woman who accused

supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh of sexual assault going to back out of testifying on thursday? her legal team now throwing up roadblocks as republican senators hired a woman lawyer to question her. we're bringing in former federal prosecutor andrew mccarthy, he is fired up about this story. and president trump speaking at the u.n. today, blasting iran, anti-iran protesters outside the president touting the progress he's made with things like north korea and the dictator he once just a year ago called little rocket man. and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein's job now on the line after reports he discussed secretly recording president trump and trying to have him removed from office. president confronting rosenstein face-to-face on thursday. we'll break that down. thank you for joining us, thank you for watching, money, politics, we've got the debate behind tomorrow's headlines. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now.

first the money, dow down 66 points, wiping out earlier gains, tough trade talk at the trump white house. thursday now shaping up to see a big day for trump's presidency. the fate of supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, much more, may be decided. start with thursday's hearing featuring kavanaugh accuser dr. christine ford. is that now in doubt? ford's legal team acting like they want out ripping into republicans on the senate judiciary for hiring a female lawyer to ask their client ford questions. meantime, republicans like senator lindsey graham pointing out lack of any evidence in these three basically three dozen-year-old allegations,

stretch back 36 years ago. such as for example no eyewitnesses. ford not even sure what house this all took place in. unsure about the year. 1982. ford initially said it happened when she was in her, quote, late teens but that would have made her 15 years old at that time in 1982. now watch senator lindsey graham talking about the complaints from democrats and ford's legal team. >> for them to complain about the process is like an arsonist complaining about a fire. the allegations against judge kavanaugh are collapsing. this is the worst low point in the senate for me and that's saying a lot. when it comes to donald trump, there are no boundaries. there are no rules. whatever you need to do to destroy him or his agenda is okay. liz: and president trump blasting democrats for playing games about kavanaugh. watch. >> i can tell you that false

accusations and false accusations of all types are made against a lot of people. this is a high-quality person, and i certainly hope, i certainly hope -- it would be a horrible insult to our country if it doesn't happen, and it will be a horrible, horrible thing for future political people, judges, anything you want, it would be a horrible thing. it cannot be allowed to happen. and the democrats are playing a congame, c-o-n, they know it's a congame. the second accuser knows nothing, she thinks maybe it could have been him, maybe not, she admits she was drunk. she admits time lapses. he's startled, he can't believe this is happening. his wife is devastated. his children are devastated. i don't mean like they're gee, i'm a little unhappy.

they're devastated. and it's because these democrats. liz: okay, here's how to watch this going forward. there are 51 republicans and 49 democrats in the senate. republicans cannot afford to lose one vote from their side of the aisle, but 10 senate republicans remain undecided. kavanaugh's fate especially rests with jeff flake, lisa murkowski and bob corker and the one to watch, senator susan collins, who will give cover, who could give cover to other republicans for how they may vote. others could follow susan collins' lead. susan collins is considered a moderate voice. she's voted no in the past on education secretary betsy devos. the epa scott pruitt and for overturning obamacare. let me clarify one thing. 49 individuals on the senate side who vote with the democrats. those include independents as well. bring in former federal prosecutor and fox news

contributor andrew mccarthy, great to see you, thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. liz: what's your take? >> i think we're so far away from what the purpose of this hearing is. i happen to be one of these people who's never been convinced that this thursday thing is going to happen. i never thought that dr. ford wanted to testify. i think at most what they were trying to do is generate video of a bunch of old white guys asking a woman difficult questions so they could run a bunch of ads before the midterm elections. but i actually don't think she's ever wanted to toifshgs and i think these demands that they're making, the latest one is she wants a couple of trauma experts and her polygrapher to testify, are kind of like setting up a climbdown where she can kind of bow out of this while saving face. we're very, very far from the point of this hearing, which is

not to have a trial. an fbi background check is not a full-blown criminal investigation. the only point of this is to get enough information that the senators can make a discriminating appraisal of the candidate whether he has the legal knowledge and character to sit on the supreme court. liz: the burden of proof should be on the accuser, not the accused. this controversy stripped out the emotion. should be about the facts. believed the women movement approach. let me tell you, we understand here that women have been through a lot with a lot of the cases, but to believe the women approach, you know this, led to famous rape cases like the duke lacrosse case where the prosecutor who believed the woman in question wound up losing his law license and the university of virginia rolling stone case where they wound up facing millions in damages. now, it's about denounced until proven guilty. i mean, the believe the women

approach is politically opportunistic, just ask juanita broaddrick and the other clinton accusers, right? >> two things about that, liz. first of all, the believe the woman or presumption of believability of the woman, that's a great talking point on television, it doesn't work in a courtroom. in a courtroom a jury is told to use common sense with respect to every witness and compare what they say to the available body of knowledge that you have to try to mang your mind about how credible they are. but the second thing is to talk about this in terms of criminal trials and the analog of that. these allegations would not be allowed at this point to be the subject of a criminal trial because under the constitution, the reason that we have statutes of limitations and the reason that we have, you know, speedy trial act for example is because once a period of time has lapsed as a practical

matter a person can't make the kind of a defense that the constitution requires you to be allowed to make because when time goes by, witnesses either disappear or memories lapse, you lose evidence and the like. so you wouldn't even -- these things would not be the subject of a criminal trial. so to have them raised in the context of what's supposed to be just a background check of a candidate is kind of absurd. liz: good point, you wonder if the women who are making these claims, you got ask them, are you going to seriously pursue your claims outside of these senate hearings? the answer might be no. we're going to be watching that. >> it can't. liz: that's a good point. here's the thing too, we know that kavanaugh's accuser have come nowhere near the standard required for criminal prosecution, and we know that the democrats like chuck schumer have said they would do what it took to stop kavanaugh. hearings went from judicial philosophy to cory booker's i

am spartacus moments to allegations. the thing we're dealing with is michael avenatti. let's get to the next segment for andrew mccarthy, want you to take on what michael avenatti is saying, approves federal judges and now allowing uncorroborated allegation, we have this, michael avenatti, the lawyer for adult entertainer stormy daniels claiming a third accuser will emerge soon. he's not backing off that saying his client may not come forward. watch avenatti initially trumpet this claim. watch. >> within the next 48 hours week will release additional details relating to the allegations relating to brett kavanaugh. she is 100% credible, and when the american people hear from her, they will determine, as i have, that she is to be believed. liz: now even cnn's jeffrey toobin is shredding michael avenatti.

watch. >> michael avenatti's behavior so far has been irresponsible. for michael avenatti to throw out there unnamed people who are going to make these allegations, that is really not how the process should work. it is not fair to brett kavanaugh. it is not fair to anyone involved. it is publicity seeking of the worst kind, and unless he can come up -- if he has a person to attach to that, that's one thing. but simply to throw this garbage out with no name is awful. liz: and i think phil mud agreed with toobin. what's your take on that? >> well, i think avenatti is a clown show. i thought that before this ever arose, but i think that his allegations here are in a way of a piece with the other two allegations we've heard. what i mean by that, liz, we are at this point because the process has been abused. what should have happened here is these allegation should have

been raised in due order in regular order in connection with the way the hearing worked out so they could have been vetted six weeks ago or more, and what would have happened is kavanaugh would have been asked about them in his 31 hours of testimony, and they would have made up their mind about does he sound credible or not sound credible in refuting them, and then we'd be onto a vote at this point. the only reason we're in this posture where this is teed up as if it were a criminal trial is they abused the hearing process and didn't raise it until after the guy testified to what comes out to about a day and a half in realtime. liz: and we should point out michael avenatti's twitter account was locked up for private use. don't understand that. we're going to take on rod rosenstein now. in you're fired up, andrew.

set to meet president trump to talk about his future at the justice department. mr. rosenstein oversees the special counsel investigation into alleged russian interference in the election. "new york times" reporting friday and early last year, rosenstein talked about secretly recording the president and recruiting cabinet members in an attempt to remove him from office. rosenstein denied those reports. andrew, what are the problems with rosenstein's denials on the "new york times" story? >> well, you know, first of all, the story is credible because my own view of it for what it's worth is that rosenstein miscalculated what the reaction to his memorandum supporting the firing of fbi director james comey was going to be. i think he expected to be applauded for that. he was bitterly attacked over it, and i think he spent a lot of times in the days that followed that trying to get back into the good graces of the people who were attacking

him to. my mind, the most interesting thing, liz, is the timeline, because at the same time that he evidently talking about potentially wiretapping the president and the 25th amendment, which was ridiculous. at that very time, he also appoint mueller special counsel in the absence of factual grounding for a criminal investigation, which is what the regulations require. liz: interesting. final point, the whole idea that mr. rosenstein was, quote, joking about it and being sarcastic. that's a complicated joke. he's talking about 259th amendment invoking that to remove the president about, recording the president and recruiting cabinet members to join him. doesn't sound like late night joke material, andrew, right? >> no, it doesn't. but i would say this. i think he can credibly say that he wasn't serious about this, and i think he may be right about that in the sense of there was absolutely no

basis for the 25th amendment, for example, which has to do with a medical disability. there's nothing about that that's relevant to the situation, but i do think that rosenstein was signaling to people that had good connections with democrats, as he always has, that he was on their side with respect to trump. liz: great to see you, mr. mccarthy, come back soon. >> thank you. liz: get to your business headlines. president trump reportedly snubbing canadian prime minister trudeau at u.n. citing a compressed schedule. news of a trade deal may be moving ahead without canada and only mexico according to the u.s. trade representative. and we're watching this story closely, bear market stocks, stocks in bear territory are in the s&p 500's record run, stocks down more than 20% from 52-week highs. we're talking ford motor,

applied materials and lam research, blaming the china trade fight. we have record $2.5 trillion in the first half of 2018, talking serious buying. pandora, michael kors buying versace. deirdre bolton live on the new york stock exchange for the latest. deirdre? reporter: stocks finished mixed on today's session, renewed fears of trade weighed on testament. president trump's toughline speech reminded investors of the two largest economies, u.s. and china, are still at a trade standoff. evidence that home prices are slowing weighed on sentiment. prices accelerated for most of the past two years, interest rates are moving higher, so are mortgage rates, that is going to affect and slow rapid price acceleration. nike beat earnings on the top and the bottom line but fell after reporting it was the company's first full quarterly report after the ceo apologized

for missing a sexual harassment scandal earlier this year. one that cleared out several top executives. facebook closing lower, after instagram's co founders left the company. facebook purchased instagram in 2012 for about a billion dollars. it is now worth 100 billion. analysts say it's bad for facebook's brand that the instagram co-founders want to leave. liz: thank you so much, deirdre. now to this story, republican senator ted cruz the latest conservative to be ambushed by angry liberals in public. we've got that story for you. >> we believe survivors! >> tonight a guest who has experience with problems like this. he is turning point usa founder charlie kirk. he's fired up. he's ready to talk about what he says is a growing trend.

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let's bring in former u.s. army special forces and he is the center for security policy executive vice president, jim hanson. great to see you, jim. your take on the protests from iranian americans against iran outside the u.n. today. >> a sign the iranian people have had enough of the mullahs and the regime. after eight years of obama's delusional fantasy that iran was a partner for peace. trump sees them as the enemy they are and bringing the pain by crushing their oil exports. they will be much more amenable to meetings. he got in trouble for the tweet. said i'm not going to meet with rouhani but heard he's an absolutely lovely man. you got to take that the way trump talks about people. he was mocking him and hurting the regime. liz: we split-screened and showed the anti-iranian protests. those are iranian americans

protesting against iran. we showed it on the screen there. turn to north korea, jim, remember last year president trump when he spoke before the u.n. called the north korean leader kim jong-un rocket man. watch. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. the united states is ready, willing and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary. liz: today a year later president trump talking about how much progress he's made in the u.s. relationship with north korea. watch. >> in june, i traveled to singapore to meet face-to-face with north korea's leader, chairman, kim jong-un. we agreed it was in both countries' interest to pursuit denuclearization of the korean peninsula. the missiles and rockets are no longer flying in every direction, nuclear testing has

stopped, some military facilities are already being dismantled. our hostages have been released and as promised, the remains of our fallen heroes are being returned home to lay at rest in american soil. i would like to thank chairman kim for his courage and for the steps he has taken. though much work remains to be done. liz: you know, the backdrop of all this is north korea is in a state of economic collapse. your take what the president says. >> the president is showing that tough talk backed by a credible threat of violence brings results as you can see in just one year. he's also talking to the rest of the potential bad actors sitting there in the general assembly. there was a big talk about how they laughed when he said he was doing a great job. you got to remember every two-bit dictator in the world gets an invite to the u.n. general assembly and to quote

noted philosopher obi-wan kenobi, in a wretchet scum of vilani, you will never survive. liz: after a 15-year period of good will after the end of the cold war, the security council has been in a state of paralysis ever since, right? >> amen. they're not doing anything. you can't get anything passed the chinese or russian veto, the u.n. is a place for something who can't get something done to bloviate. liz: jim hanson, thank you very much. there are calls for rod rosenstein to testify before the comments the "new york times" reported about wiring him and record the president. sidney powell joins me next. (vo) when bandits stole the lockbox from the wells fargo stagecoach, agent beekman was one step ahead of them.

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. liz: welcome back, watching the fox business network. president trump spoke with deputy attorney general rod rosenstein over the phone yesterday about the "new york times" report that rosenstein discussed secretly recording the president also invoking the 25th amendment to remove the president from office. republican congressman mark meadows wants to impeach rod rosenstein. watch. >> if indeed rod rosenstein said these things which many believe that he did. many believe that he said it in a nonjoking manner, he needs to explain that not only to the president of the united states but the american people, so we're pushing very hard to make sure he comes in under oath to congress, and let the american people judge for themselves. liz: let's bring in the author of the book licensed to lie, exposing corruption in the department of justice. we welcome sidney powell. great to see you, sidney. >> you, too, liz, thanks for

having me on. liz: what do you think? should he testify? >> i think he should testify. he's got a lot of explaining to do. even if we accept the premise and i'm willing to accept he was popping off, what do you want me to do? tape the president? wear a wire in the necessary precursor to the sentence is this president is out of control. there's something we've got to do, we've got to get rid of him. that's the only logical precursor to that response. i want to know who else is in the room and what the full conversation was. liz: jason chaffetz is saying that, too. a source in the room when rod rosenstein reportedly made those comments told fox news the comment was sarcastic. we were just talking sidney, is that plausible? it's a complicated sarcastic joke. i was saying it before, not exactly late night joke material. he was really being sarcastic about recording the president, about invoking the 25th and

about recruiting cabinet members to join him does. all of this sound plause they believe it was, quote, sarcastic? >> i think that remark itself in isolation could have been sarcastic, but the bottom line is that's what they were talking about or that remark wouldn't have been made. so the rest of the conversation was clearly not sarcastic, and remember, this is the man who signed the last phony fisa application. so he did essentially wire the president for all practical purposes because the renewal of the application against carter page allowed interception of virtually everything carter page had anything to do with, and then that information was given to bob mueller, and he's also the one who picked bob mueller. i want to see rosenstein, mueller, comey and andrew wiseman's communications for three or four months after the president was inaugurated. liz: why do you want to know who else was in the room with rod rosenstein?

why do you want to know that? >> because they would be implicated in the conversation, the full conversation where they clearly were talking about trying to get rid of donald trump as president. liz: sidney powell, great to see you, come back soon. >> thanks, liz, to you, too. >> republican senator ted cruz the latest conservative to be ambushed by angry protesters in public. my next guest has been through it. he's charlie kirk. remember this video? look at that.. >> way hotter than you do. >> we believe survivors! we believe survivors! people tell me all the time i have the craziest job, the riskiest job. the consequences underwater can escalate quickly. the next thing i know, she swam off with the camera.

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believe survivors. senator cruz saying god bless you. asked them to let his wife heidi through. my next guest has also been accosted by the left. turning point usa founder charlie kirk. great to see. >> you great to see. >> you have we jumped shark, too far? >> too far. let's recount the targeting of conservatives, steve scalise shot and nearly died. rand paul, political attack. candace owens and i was driven out of a restaurant eating breakfast, minding our own business in philadelphia. not to mention donald trump, jr.'s entire family faced anthrax, a death threat. i've heard total silence from the leftist leadership. you see maxine waters inciting this. you see her encouraging it. her exact quote was when you see members of this administration or allies at a gas station or at department store, find them and make their

life miserable. liz: you pointed out steve scalise, he wrote an op-ed today pointing out how social media including google media, twitter ramps up these attacks. he's worried about violence. are you worried about violence? >> without a doubt. what a sad state of affairs where allegiance or loyalty to the president of the united states can make your life more dangerous. think about that. this is the left, the straight set they're living in where they say anyone close to the president of the united states, they consider us to be a danger to society and they are going to exhibit this violence. senator said he's going to vote for judge kavanaugh. they have to disrupt his meal and make his life difficult? liz: senate republicans hiring an attorney, a woman to question accuser christine blasey ford about supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh, declining to name her, many democrats not waiting for thursday's hearing to say they believe the accuser.

>> i believe her. to be prepared to testify in the united states senate against someone who's being nominated to one of the most powerful positions of the united states government, that takes an extraordinary amount of courage. >> not only do women like dr. ford who bravely comes forward need to be heard, but they need to be believed. >> i just want to say to the men of this country, just shut up and step up. do the right thing. >> i believe dr. ford. i believe the survivor here. >> i believe her, i stand with her. >> i believe professor ford. i think she's credible. liz: let me clarify, i think the issue is not wanting to name who the attorney will be to question dr. ford. you know, why are democrats calling for an investigation if they already believe any accuser that comes forward? >> they just want to delay, delay, delay, and the sad state of affairs where someone such as judge kavanaugh who lived a sterling life for 35 years is guilty until proven innocent. he has to prove a negative

which makes our justice system work is you have the presumption of innocence and you are able to face your accuser. isn't that what the court system is about? the great irony, he's trying to get on our highest court and treated in a kangaroo court fashion. >> the senate judiciary committee screens federal judges and allowing in uncorroborated allegations. >> precisely. he is going to be one of the nine of the top of our justice system, he's going to embody this process, yet they're doing anything but that process to prevent him from getting in. liz: this just in, president trump and north korean leader kim jong-un could possibly meet for a second summit before the end of this year. that's according to south korean president moon jae-in. we're going to stay on that for you. yale law students opposing the nomination of brett kavanaugh saying they believe the accuser. a congressman says one of our

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they start undermining our institutions of democracy. just so it can entrench their power further. it's radical what they're doing. they've got a vision that says that all they want to do is protect their power even if it hurt the country. that kind of fearmongering doesn't work. >> i am sick of all the chaos and the nastiness of our politics. >> it's exhausting. liz: that was former president barack obama and first lady michelle obama. my next guest is going to argue that the obamas like to warn about fearmongering and chaos while they also have been fearmongering and creating chaos. he is judiciary committee member andy biggs. make your case, good to see you, congressman. >> good to be with you, liz. let's get this straight. when the obamas and the democrats are talking about fearmongering. they have no policies to talk

about. all they have is emotion, visceral incitement and fearmongering, that is in my mind, the left views politics as a war. republicans view it as an election. so they're saying everything, doing everything they possibly can to insight fear. so when president obama says they're going to take away democracy or fire everyone, hillary clinton said we have nobel prize economist saying the stock market is going to collapse, they're not talking about policies. they're trying to insight and mobilize people for fear. that's what president obama said, a community activist, this has spread throughout the entire left. liz: it's gotten to the point where hillary clinton says get rid of the electoral college. you know what else is going on, representative biggs, we've got a new "gallup poll," the republican favorability is the

highest it's been in seven years. here's the lay of the land, let me back up. democrats are defending 26 senate seats. republicans 9 seats. thought that the democrats take the house and talks it could take the senate, but congressman, the senate races are in some of the most pro-trump parts of the country, north dakota and montana. to win a majority, democrats have to run the table in every close race. the math is too high for the democrats in the senate, right? >> i agree with you. and that's why they're ramping up the rhetoric. i think a lot of what we see is this kind of desperation. like i say, there's no policy prescriptions that they're talking about. they're solely talking about, unless it's the radical stuff like bernie sanders, that's just absolutely marxism, everything else is fear, fear. and yet, the countries and this remarkable economic time, and so the republicans are in

ascendency. the only problem we have is can we get out base, get out the people who voted for trump in the 2016 election. if we get them out. they're going to vote with the republicans because they like the direction the country is going. liz: let's get to the story. yale law school students protesting, opposing the nomination of brett kavanaugh to the u.s. supreme court saying they believe his accuser. more than 100 students taking part in the protest. more than 30 professors canceling classes because of it. congressman, this is one of america's top law schools. are the students taught anything about due process here? do they understand that? >> i don't know if they understand due process, but if they're going to believe an accuser who's not been put to the test. there is no evidence here. i'm really concerned at the product coming out of yale law school but i don't think yale is alone. i'm concerned about the product everywhere because that

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. liz: the national football league kicking off week three, photos of empty football stadiums making their way across the internet, showing the nfl is struggling to sell tickets. nfl posting a week three ratings gain of 2.6%. results do not include "monday night football." now today's nfl ratings are flat, up less than 1 percentage point, according to nielsen.

joining me former trump campaign senior adviser michael caputo. does the nfl have a problem on its hands? >> i think so, i'm probably a good example what the problem is. i grew up in the shadow of the buffalo bills shadium, and jack kemp was my quarterback, and he actually brought me into politics. i was a writer for jack kemp when he ran for president in 1986. i listened to jack kemp as he spoke in glowing terms about race relations and many of his friends were the african-american players and he played alongside them and even though jack is gone today i think he would be emptettic about their plight and trying to talk about it, but the problem is, i'm a 25th infantry veteran. when they take a knee inside these stadiums, maybe they don't intend to offend veterans, but they do. and now they know they do, and some still take a knee, and over the off-season, the owners

seemed to have come into an agreement with the players and letting this happen wherever it will, and i haven't been to a game this year. on sunday, i took my little girls out into the music festival here in western new york instead of staying home and watching the game. i was happy to hear the buffalo bills kicked the backsides of the minnesota vikings but for some reason i didn't really miss it that much. liz: that's interesting. you have your finger on the pulse of middle america and the heartland, what are they saying now as the nfl season is under way? >> well, it's interesting, what i usually do with these games, i go to my friend's house, chuckie's parking. we all used to park cars on the front lawn because we're in the shadow of the stadium. i'll go and hang out with friends raised out, there blue collar neighborhood. it was rough-and-tumble when i grew up and people will hang around chuckie's parking and

drink a beer in the garage with us, but they don't go to the game, and there are a growing number of people that are disgusted with it, and liz, now that this has come to an agreement between the players and the owners where this can happen if a player wants to do it, i think they're losing people one by one. liz: wait a second, stay on that because -- >> i would never, ever do it but i'm missing all these things. >> i went to school in buffalo, a big thing were the tailgate parties, you look forward to the tailgate parties to see the game because of the tailgate parties, is this now hitting the tailgate parties? . >> a lot of people are tailgating because that's a part of the buffalo experience but not going inside. we miss you here in buffalo by the way. a lot of the parties are private -- liz: we got to go. michael caputo. great to see you. sorry, we got to leave it there. we're going to be right back.

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