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wireless, that's why i'm excited about the markets. >> we are all excited about the market. that does it for bulls and bears. evening edit starts right now. president trump: we have been giving so much money for so many different countries for so long. it's not fair and it's nod good. when we ask them to keep their people in their country they are unable to do it. you are going to mind ms-13, you will mind middle eastern. you will find everything. guess what? we are not allowing them in our country. what's happening on the border is caused by the democrats because they won't let anyone change immigration laws that are horrible. liz: the caravan is growing.
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some people in it say it's so crowd they can't even walk. the administration warns about drug dealers and gang members. chuck schumer and nancy pelosi and more are giving their marching orders to the democrat party faithful, do not talk about the caravan. krugman and woodward says they know trump's battle plan if the republicans win the house. the president is kicking off a rally in houston, texas, a county hillary clinton won in 2016. thank you so much for joining
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us. thank you for watching. money, politics. we have the debate behind tomorrow's headlines. i'm liz president macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. [♪] the illegal immigrant caravan heading toward the u.s. is growing in size. the president tweeted that honduras, guatemala and el salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the u.s. reporter: the caravan is growing with some reports 7,500. many people are from honduras but also guatemala and el
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salvador. they are fleeing violence in their homes and also look for economic opportunity. the president threatened to cut off funding because central american countries cannot keep their people in their own country. president trump: they are paid a lot of money of he year, we give them foreign aid, and they did nothing for us. so we give them tremendous amount of money. you know what it is. you cover it all the time. hundreds of millions of dollars. they like a lot of others do nothing for our country. reporter: a senior state department official says since 2015 the u.s. has given those countries 2.billion. we are talking about $249 million from guatemala, $175 million from honduras, and $115
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million from el salvador. many immigrants stopped on a bridge heading into mexico, but they got frustrated with how long it was take so they raftd and swam across the river between guatemala and mexico. president trump saying he has no problem calling up the military, not even the national guard, the military to close the border if they try to come into the united states illegally. liz: they are crossing bridges and rivers. riot police and helicopters monitoring their progress. homeland security warning drug cartels and gang members are exploiting the situation. let's bring in the border patrol
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union president. >> we have thousands of individuals from another country forcefully any coming into our country, waving flags of the country they are supposely fleeing. that is snoot caravan. that is plains and simple an invasion. liz: we are getting reports coming into the studio that's are not planning to apply for asylum. they are make it clear they will slip between the border patrol police officers and enter illegally. how can you claim asylum if you don't claim it in the first country you enter, which is mexico. >> if you think about it. these people are coming thousands of miles, right? and thousands of them. and they happen to do it during election season. that alone should raise some type of red flag that something weird is going on here. but once they step on u.s. soil
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they will claim asylum and those individuals because the judges are so swamped, these individuals get released because catch and release has not ended in the united states. liz: hundreds of thousands of cases already, the judges are swamped. mexican police are letting them come north and president trump will turn them away if they don't apply for asylum in mexico. here is president trump warning criminals may be using the caravan to get into the u.s. president trump: go into the middle of the caravan, take your cameras and search. you are going to find ms-13, you will mind middle eastern. you will find everything. liz: he's being questions on middle easterners and ms-13 in the mix. he's being questioned, there is no proof of that. >> these individuals are coming
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into the country illegally, and many of them i heard, they are not even carrying any identification themselves. you cannot check what crimes they committed in the country of origin they are coming from. what they will end up having is a clean slate to enter into the united states because we don't know their name, we don't know what criminal background they have there. i know the president gets criticized for the statements he sometimes makes. but we have a president that gets it. he gets it more than our own leaders that run our agency. we had a good opportunity when he first took over and the numbers went down and the agency failed to do that. something needs to be done with all these obama holdovers returning our own agency. liz: deportees are in the knicks and they are coming north. we are watching the media coverage. they are coming for jobs. they are not saying gang violence. er in saying for economic
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reasons. this is a complicated story. the question is, are the voters out there getting the picture of what's going on with the border? it's unacceptable that the people in these countries have the message it's okay to just come north and abandon their families to come north into the u.s. illegally. their plan is to break the law and slip past patrol officers and come in illegally. that's their plan. >> it's obvious they are willing to use any force necessary to enter this country. we had the same situation back in april in san diego, if you can recall that rare can coming through. it's been quite some time. now this is happening again. there is no plan. my agency has not put out a plan. the individuals that i represent with the national border patrol council are fed up. they are asking our own leaders within our own agency to do something because they failed to
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do so. half of them are too busy with banquets with retirements rather than take care of the issues we have today. liz: we are cutting away to the president in houston, texas for a make america great again rally. people started lining up to take a look at the rally 24 hours prior. we'll be monitoring that situation for you. thank you for your insights there. president trump ratcheting up the anger at democrats over the border. he says every time you see a caravan of people attempting to come into our country illegally, think and blame the democrats who are not giving us the votes to change our pathetic immigration laws. joining me from the daily signal. independent women's forum, robin
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biro. kelsey, how can the illegal border crossers claim asylum if they don't apply for tonight mexico. >> you are right. i don't think you need to be a trump supporter or supporter of trump's stance on immigration to see why our immigration laws are not work. we have thousands of people trying to flood our borders. we do not have the resources to deal with it. i think every democrat in congress who has a problem with trump's stance on immigration needs to be asked, what would they do differently to stop this caravan. >> in all honesty, what i would like to see is the dnc issue guidance to avoid the two i words. i would like to see democrats take a stronger stance on immigration and answer their own reforms. we have been talking about
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comprehensive immigration reform for years. now the candidates themselves are being told to stay away from the topic. i think that's a bad strategic mistake. liz: latino voters whose relatives came here legally do not like people breaking the law. here is rush limbaugh saying cnn is giving the caravan way too much coverage. >> they are not focusing on the rare van. -- the caravan. that tells me if the caravan were a democrat idea designed embarrass trump, they would be covering it and building it up. liz: i set that up correctly. rush limb bawf says not enough coverage is being goifn ways going not caravan. ways your reaction, kelsey? >> i think this is a national security crisis. trump has responded correctly in
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being strong and sending the message this is not okay. longer the caravans go on and the farther they travel, the more likely they will see a number of them. that speaks to the need to reform our entire immigration system which robin, i wish more democrats agreed with you and were willing to come to the table and work on a compromise. liz: are democrats saying they are uncomfortable with this and they would agree with you, robin? >> behind the scenes they are concerned. we know there always crisis. it's in tour face every day. as a veteran army ranger myself i am all about national security and securing our borders. that's why democrats put forth the secure dense act in 2006 and we had -- fence act in 2006 and
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we had tremendous support. liz: to robin's point, 26 democrats voted for that bored fence in 2006 including joe biden, obama and hillary clinton. three nba stars suspend. a major mist fight broke out between the three drawing refs and coaches to the court to break it you have. penalties leveled. now to this story. elon musk hates traffic so much he calls it soul destroying. musk is ready to debut on december 10 the first tunnel from his company, it's called the boring company. it will be located south of the downtown los angeles. it's really science fiction stuff. he wants people to be able to
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travel nirm within the world in an hour. 130 miles per hour, maybe 150. china set to unveil the world's long in thest bridge after nine years of construction and $20 billion. 22 miles of a three-lane highway. it's 15 times the length of the golden gate bridge. new video emerge. reports of a body double, reports of consulate saudi staff burning documents. we have the details stay there.
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liz: questions still growing after the saudis gave yet another explanation for the death of jamal khashoggi. they claim was murdered in a fistfight and the crown prince had no knowledge of it at all. this is a picture of a body double wearing jamal khashoggi's clothes and leaving the consulate after the fight.
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rich edson live at the state department. reporter: many of the details report the internationally in the united states are coming from turkish state media or turkish authorities. the latest on this is that there are photos of what turkish officials say are saudi officials burning documents a day after jamal khashoggi's disappearance at the saudi consulate in istanbul. there has been a steady flow of this information from the turkish government and media as it conducted the investigation. in washington the president says he and his administration are considering the evidence before deciding how and if to respond. president trump: we'll know very
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soon. we have tremendously talented people. reporter: treasury secretary steve mnuchin this saudi arabia. he's skipping an investment conference. but he met with bin salman to address terrorist financing, iran sanctions, economic news and the khashoggi investigation. the saudi foreign minister says that rogue actors are to blame. there is significant scepticism in washington of the saudi government claims. much of that is coming from a number of republicans in the senate, and many in congress are
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calling for sanctions and other penalties against the saudi government in response to this. liz: joining me now with his take, walid phares. what's your take? >> i think the saudis, the higher level, they didn't know exactly how this operation was going on and they were surprised and shocked. it took them some time to investigate among themselves what were the actual facts. most of experts would tell you in the middle east, it would be difficult to imagine the saudis would go to kill somebody in their own consulate while all of the intelligence services are surrounding the consulate. probably this was a rendition, extraction operation. they wanted to bring him back to saudi arabia and it turned out the operation failed. once it failed, then they had to
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do many things including burning documents and trying to delay the statements. liz: he's a 60-year-old journalist. he put up such a fight that he was killed in one of the saudis arrived with a bone saw. and where is this body? >> we don't know. he went in, he didn't go out. or he went out in different ways. we don't have any information about that. liz: the saudis say it's a rogue operation. turkey said 9 of the 15 were close to the saudi regime. i want the get your take on -- the u.s. goal should be to preserve the u.s.-saudi alliance while making clear the murder of a journalist is unacceptable.
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i want your reaction to what former obama administration officials are suggesting. ben rhodes is trying to blame president trump. >> we call him the enemy of the state. we are giving a green light not just to this saudi regime but any around the world who wants to sharp journalists. liz: he says the administration is setting the stage for journalists to be murdered. >> there is no evidence of that. it would be crazy to do it. the administration is frustrated with what happened and the mistakes and failure of this operation that was supposed to be rendition. look what we are using for the price of what happened. our sanctions on iran could be weakened with the crisis we are leading with the gulf states and
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saudi arabia. and relationship with the arab alliance that we want to launch this fall. and the arab israeli peace process. all of that is jeopardized for what? the failure of an operation we didn't know about? liz: crowd flocking to the rally in houston, texas with president trump. the race for governor in california is heating up. we have the republican candidate john cox next. don't miss it.
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of the 27 mid-term rallies the president held this year. more than 3/4 were in counties he won by 60% of the vote. tonight the president is shake things up. he'll be speak in a county that hillary clinton won. hillary vaughn has the latest. reporter: the economy is a central issue and the president is making the economy a slogan on the campaign trail leading voters in a chant, jobs, not mobs. to show the contrast between the republicans and democrats activist agenda. former president obama is taking credit for the economy. >> by the time i left office, wages were rising, the
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unemployment rate was falling. poverty was falling. that's what i handoff to the next guy. so when you hear about all this talk about economic miracles, remember who started it. remember who started it. reporter: heller says he welcomes obama into his home state because it reminds people of what it was like under obama. the president tonight hopes to fire up his base to vote for senator ted cruz. they traded barbs during the 2016 election. the president nicknames him lyin' ted, but today he gave him a new nickname.
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president trump: ted cruz and i had a tough campaign. once it ended and we got together, ultimately what happened, we out, the outcome was obvious. and we have worked together very closely. i like him a lot. reporter: today's dual is the first of many get out the vote around the country. the gop has a big cash advantage. republicans had over 50 million more in the bank. several key senate seats could be slipping away in nevada and tennessee with democrats falling behind the gop candidate. in north dakota, republicans could pick up a seat. the real clear politics average of polls showed heidi heitkamp
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10 points behind kevin cramer. liz: president obama doubled the debt to $20 trillion. democrats need to get a net gain of 23 seats to win the house nearly one-third of that target is in the state of california. congressional elections in the golden state are build as the battle of the bases. democrats are fighting hard and they may be pulling ahead. we welcome john cox. it's great to see you. how are you getting out the vote to beat gavin newsom. he's fleeghtd polls. >> the polls are all over the
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place. the people of this state have been beaten down. the state is almost unaffordable and unlivable. the gas tax, the cost of gasoline is outrageous. we are being told we are going to have water rationing in a few years because they failed to build storage and desalinization. our roads are almost impassable and congest meanwhile they are building a train to nowhere in the central valley. i don't know how gavin newsom stays up. he's not campaigning and he won't debate me. he preside over the descent of this beautiful golden state. i think we'll have a surprise like we did in 2016. i think the forgotten californians will rise up and
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say we want our golden state back liz: there are 40 million residents there. california could be its own country. more than a quarter of californians are foreign born it seems like you are aiming for the lower to middle class voters. is that your plan? >> we are aiming for independents and moderate, democrats who are part of that beaten down working californian. the forgotten californian. they are all over the state. people who spend an hour, hour and a half in a car because they move father away from their jobs in the city they love because they couldn't find a house or apartment they love. then the legislature hits them with a gas tax. then they have to send their children to a school that's 47th in the nation even though we increased education funding by 80%.
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most of of that money is going to administrators' pensions. liz: what's the word about fraudulent votes in your state? >> there is a real problem at the dmv that made national news. i highlighted the incompetence with issuing i.d.s. there is 4 to 6-hour waits. the dmv is responsible for motor voter. there are massive problems with that. it audit caltrans which is responsible for building our roads and spends twice what texas does. and i'm going to audit the dmv and find out where our money went, and the secretary of state needs to account for what happened with motor voter. liz: are you to contest the vote? >> who knows yet what's going to happen. but we are going to watch it
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closely. i'm a cpa. i think the mismanagement of this case, the waste, the corruption, we'll end up cutting the snengd this state and delivering better results. that's what the people in this state want. liz: thank you so much for coming on. we have reached out to john cox's democrat opponent, lieutenant governor gavin newsom and we have yet to hear back. protesters confronting nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell. more after the break. stay there.
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people. >> you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. >> when they go low, we kick them. liz: toxic politics on both sides just keeps getting worse. protesters in florida cursing house any north leader nancy pelosi. that's not right. some called her a communist. others hurled obscenities. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell also confront in a restaurant. one man verbally attacking him on his position on social security and immigration reform. mainstream americans don't like the, and the more the democrats shout mob tactics the more it highlights they don't have any policies to sell. >> their policy is tapping i to
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the general feeling of narcotic feeling of anger and viciousness. they are tapping into the same kind of feeling that the brown shirts under hitler and under the beginnings of the nazi party tapped into. they are tapping into some very, very evil feeling here. and i will add if any republicans are doing the same thing, they are doing very bad stuff, too. this is not how america is supposed to be run. liz: the psychologist of the mob mentality. i'm not sure the democrats understand the poison hal chalie there are drinking from. that kind of thinking does fuel violence. and that's pretty dangerous for this country. president trump has been criticized for calls of lock her up, people criticized that. but what's going none the
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streets right now is concerning, ben. >> very concerning. especially in portland, oregon that used to be one of the most of charming cities in america. now it's a hotbed of crowds stifling free speech. it's an amazing thing to think that america is losing free speech as rapidly as it has. >> hillary clinton is saying this about civility. >> if we are fortunate enough to win back the house and/or the senate, that's when civility can start again. liz: what happens if democrats don't win? what is hillary clinton threatening. if democrats sweep a future election. it's unlikely you will see republican incivility on the streets. that sounded like a threat from hillary clinton. >> it is a threat from hillary
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clinton and a threat to the whole democrat party. we are not going to play fair. we reached the bottom of the barrel horribleness during the kavanaugh hearings when people crowd in an elevator in the senate and started shouting and screaming at republican senators about kavanaugh. that was an outrage. people are not allowed to go out to dinner "their wives. it can't be allowed to go on that you can't walk down the street with a maga hat without being afraid of being assaulted. this is on the way to anarchy and mob rule. liz: the democrats are showing their lack of morality and leadership into the condemning what's going on. next up.
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a "new york times" columnist taking aim at president trump. paul krugman says he knows what trump will do if the republicans lose. the president will try to discredit any democrat mid-term victory. terror preacher anjem choudary said he'll never stop supporting isis. that's what he was convicted on. judge andrew napolitano takes that up next.
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liz: notorious hate preacher and terrorist isis supporter anjem choudary. he's convicted of inspiring 100 britons to join isis. he still says he'll never top supporting isis. that's we want to prison for. the u.n. has him on a fairer watch list. he's so filled with hate british imams say he's not welcome their
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mosques. let's bring in judge andrew napolitano. what a story this is. >> i'm not an expert on british law. as you say web was sentenced to five years for the use of words which had the effect of inspiring people to leave great britain and join isis. they let him out after 2 1/2 years. he signed an agreement saying if i do this again you can lock me up for another 25 years. as soon as he got out he said i'm going to do it again. he's restricted to where he can go. he's wearing a monitor. he cannot go into a mock without express permission of the imam. and he has to report to the police on a regular basis. if he stand on a soap box and says to young men, i want you to join isis, the police will be
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all over him. i don't blame them for want to go monitor him. the level of monitoring they have for him in great britain does not exist for american parolees. if this were america he wouldn't be paroled because of his threat to commit the same crime. the idea of parole is you are a better person. you served your time. liz: he wouldn't go to deradicalization programs while in prison. he's in a probation hostel next to a children's school. what's he doing next to a children's school. he's about indoctrinating. >> his target is late teenaged, 16, 17, 18-year-old muslim men. when they get in higgs spell he
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persuade them to leave great britain and go to the middle east. their terror problem is far more serious than ours and security measures would never pass muster under our constitution. the next time i'm on your show we'll be talk about him being rearrested. liz: you think be arrested again? >> if he follows through on his boast, yes. letting him out of jail and monitoring him is more expensive than incarcerating him. liz: it takes those good guys and women away from other things. pull krugman and carl bernstein claim they know what the president will do if they lose in the mid-terms.
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♪ liz: file this under things you can't make up the paul krugman addition tweeting impart the republicans also probably new power in many of their ways ways. will use claims of voter fraud to justify -- the constitution. in the very near future many government workers will probably face hard decisions about whether to defy an illegal order from their political superiors
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and remember this is the good scenario. here's what's going on. paul krugman the reason with journalist carl bernstein without any proof claiming president trump will try to delegitimize the midterms and question about if democrats win in republicans lose. let's get to the daily caller's deafening hamlin backs with us the daily signal kelsie harlan. what's your lead on this? >> liz i'm no doctor but it's clear they are suffering from an extreme case of trump arrangements is -- syndrome. it was predicted the whole u.s. economy would collapse if we ever had donald trump as president and this presidency we have seen he is completely wrong. in fact he is so dead wrong that barack obama's running around trying to take credit for trump's economy. he's also the same man who started to falsely push around this conspiracy theory i guess if you will about puerto rico and the colorado break that never actually happened.
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he lamed prison term for this so we have to take the prediction seriously wouldn't be a great idea. liz: as kurgman seven by the way krugman was a former enron consultant, he said there would be a local recession when trump one and that didn't happen. chelsea what is your read of this? >> this is pure speculation. he can't speculate what president trump is going to say in the next five minutes let alone in the midterms that we know what democrats would duvet to back the house. they would be working to repeal this tax reform which has been doing great things for the economy. maxine waters would chair the financial services committee. she would attempt to impeach trump and probably launch a witchhunt against mike kavanaugh. these things are not raised on speculation and they think what he is putting out there is really a bunch of fear-mongering. liz: stephanie to your point what i want to ask larry summers and paul krugman at all those guys and all the "msnbc" pundits
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and "cnn" who said global recession economic collapse did they sell their stocks? i don't think any of them sold their stocks. >> it's amazing i mean really and the audacity for a leftist to complain about anyone talking about delegitimizing elections or campaigns. the russia collusion narrative for two years now saying the trump campaign colluded with the election and there's not a shred of evidence. isn't that amazing? liz: and nothing about the border. the party leadership's telling democrats people are running don't talk about the border. your take quickly. >> that's a difficult message for them to say don't talk about the border when there's a caravan of over 7000 migrants attempting to storm our southern borders. liz: stephanie and kelsey at the -- chelsea to heck of a story.
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we are monitoring the president at his rally tonight. they are in counties that hillary clinton won. this is president trump taking it to the democrats backyard. thank you for having us in your home and thank you for watching. lou dobbs is here next on the fox business network. klugh good evening everybody. our top story the caravan of central american migrants continues to swell and numbers as it tracks northward towards mexico to the u.s. southern border. these are honduras el salvador wat a mullah governments demonstrated any inclination to hault the caravan and the mexican government appears to be aiding the growing caravan rather than slowing or stopping it as a pledge to do. president trump standing strong in the face of a whole
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