states. >> always good to talk to you. and good night from new york. w, and see you monday. trish: breaking right now, the fbi warns there maybe more package bombs still to be discovered. this as the suspect is being grilled while in federal custody. from the beginning of this ordeal the media has been quick to blame our president for this person's heinous crimes. instead of helping us come together, the media is further exaggerating the division. something the president agrees with. president trump: the media's constant, unfair coverage, deep hostility, and negative attacks, you know that. only serve to drive people apart

and to undermine healthy debate. for example, we have seen an effort by the media in recent hours to use the sinister actions of one individual to store political points against me on the republican party. trish: the finger pointing comes as thousands of migrants inch closer to our border. president trump taking new action as our troops deploy to the border to seal it shut. we have all the details. michael avenatti is in the hot seat again tonight. senate judiciary chairman chuck grassley calling on the justice department to investigate whether he and his client julie swetnick conspired to provide the senate committee with false

information. "trish regan primetime" coming right up. authorities searching for more package bombs that may have been mailed to critics of president trump. the fbi right now interrogating the 56-year-old suspect in florida. earlier tonight he was arrested and charged with five federal crimes in what could be the end of the nearly three decade-long criminal history. all of this as the fbi tells us these bombs are not hoax devices. >> we are still analyzing the devices in our laboratory. these are not hoax devices. trish: the former assistant director of the fbi, my question is, if none of these detonated and weren't capable of actually detonating, were they in fact not hoax devices? explain that to me if you would. >> we are grateful they didn't

detonate and there were no injuries. and second great piece of work by the fbi and the task force. let me try to explain what i think director wray is saying. he's saying it's not a hoax device, it's not a fake device with no lethality. i talked to a lot of people and examined the photographs. i think there is a good chance these device didn't have functioning detonators or they weren't put together well. i think what chris is saying there was some kind of explosive material in these pvc pipes, and that qualifies technically as a pipe bomb or weapon of mass destruction. and under certain conditions those things could have detonated with certain temperatures, certain type of pressure or jostling, for example.

but they weren't really functioning bombs in the sense of having a detonator. trish: interesting, but then it leads you to the suspect that he was not smart enough or experienced enough with these bombs and explosive devices to fire them off, or waits that he was just trying to scare people? ways your sense of that? >> this surely is speculation. i don't have inside information. i think he was trying to cause the reaction that he did in fact get, a media frenzy and a lot of publicity for himself and whatever his cause is. obviously he's demented. you won't hear the investigators say he's crazy because they don't want to late ground work for earn insanity defense. but by definition this person is disturbed. trish: i spoke to a source who

attend two years of high school with this suspect, and what he told me it was the feeling among all the kids in high school that this guy was someone who was pretty demented. he had a lot of problems and was a quote-unquote crazy. that you could foresee. i guess that's what's discouraging. after the fact they say that person was really crazy. but between being crazy and actually doing something destructive, there is a big, big path. why don't we do more to apprehend these people before it gets to something like this. >> that's walk that line between being big brother and the omnibus profiling and having a specific threat. he had a criminal record. he was known. he was a walking billboard, look at me. i obviously have my beliefs pinned on my van and everywhere

else on twitter. i don't think the public should draw any conclusions about this particular person's politics in the sense that that --ing this receipt rick is the cause of that. there are crazy people on both side of the political spectrum. and the rhetoric -- you can't blame rhetoric. you blame the people. trish: i agree a thousand percent with you. it bothers me what we are hearing from the media right now. chris, good to see you tonight. thank you so much. that's the media's blame game. their true colors are coming through as this disturbing story unfold. the media has been quick to rush to judgment without knowing any facts. in their mind there is only one person responsible for these heinous acts. you know who. >> he spend most of of his time at his rallies throwing verbal bombs at all the people that

received these bombs in the mail. >> all of the targets of this suspect, of these pipe bombs are democrats or poll in the critics of the president. >> this was an attempt to assassinate almost a dozen democrats. >> one of them was a news network. >> he allows the chant and stokes cnn successed -- cnn sucs rallies. trish: they know exactly who to blame before a suspect was ever arrested. remember when the republicans were targets in june 2017 when congressman steve scalise was shot by a crazed bernie sanders supporter. the media even then said

president trump was to blame. >> i think in terms of political leadership right now, that both president trump and the congressional leadership on the republican side are can really divisive, and that they are really benefiting from a kind of rage machine that operates in this country. >> you obviously had this horrible attempted assassination of numerous members of congress. >> when the president says punch them in the face, you know, carry them out on a stretcher, he creates a culture of incivility with sort of lets anybody who is loosely hinged to reality just sort of go off the rail. >> whether it's an attack on the united states congress was foreseeable, predictable and to some degrees self-inflicted.

trish: oh, my goodness. it seems republicans i guess are to be blamed no matter who is being targeted. that's just the way the media rolls. here to debate. madison and jehmu greene. why do they constantly say it's his fault? >> who is they? trish: the media. they just. you heard the sound. he single one is saying he's the one who inspired that. how do you defend that? >> i hate to start with agreeing with spiderman. but there is a really good lesson that we learned from uncle ben which is with great power comes great responsibility. it's also in the bible for unto

whosoever is given,' will be asked of him. this is the president of the united states. the way we are as a country, get rights to more community and disenfranchised people. we have been constantly improving because the leader of our country have stepped in to bring us together. donald trump is the first president who decided not to do that. trish: here is my problem with that. if you are a republican, the mainstream media is going to hit you. whether you are mitt romney or from the bush family. it doesn't matter. this is their m.o. and they go after the republicans. now you have a republican who

says i'm going after you back. that's not okay. when i spoke to the president i addressed that with him. he agrees that he has to bring us together. and he talked about the importance of economic prosperity. but that aside, what is the victim mentality that the media has. why is it on one person's fault. why can't it my fault and your fault and jehmu's fault. we don't need to blame one person. we ought to all have responsibility here for bringing us together. >> i know the president and his goal from day one has been to bring us together and he wants to do that through his policies. but i don't think they believe what they are saying. but they are not all stupid people. they know in the back of their minds that president trump is not responsible for what happened this week.

>> there is a lot of evidence leading people to believe that. you are right. there is a lot of blame to go around on both side. our political discourse and political news is being driven by the fringes of society. so we are all responsible. anyone with a media platform should make sure that does not continue. and i think we have to call into account all of the conservatives and even the president himself who says perhaps this was some sort of false flag and blamed it on a hypothetical democrat out there trying to hurt him. i think anyone who allowed that to be said on their platform who gave voice to that should apologize. trish: we did question with geraldo whether there were other factors that could be involved. we get concern about the russians and the chinese as we get closer to mid terms.

those are things authority need to be look at. but i agree everyone need to have responsibility in this. there is an important part of reporting. you don't speculate. the problem i have with what the left is doing. they are speculating. this all happening because of president trump. >> it's not happening because of the president. it happened well before president trump was in office. we need to put faith in law enforcement. there has been a lot of instances. these people could have been stopped, like parkland. >> i'm all for everybody being more proactive in terms of being nicer to each other, and that includes hillary clinton. that includes maxine waters. no more talk of heckling people. we owe it to ourselves as

americans to show some decency. i said this to him and he agreed. you look at what he has been saying the last couple days and he stressed the importance much coming together. we all get it. thank you so much. coming up, a lot more ahead tonight. president trump sending troops to seal the border shut as the administration looks for options to prevent migrants from seeking asylum. loud mouth and brash attorney michael avenatti could find himself in the cross-hairs of the justice department. chuck grassley recommending the doj investigate the attorney for conspiring to provide false statement to congress. that story straight ahead. ...for that, and

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acarolina -- he's considering an executive order to prevent this 14,000-strong and still growing care vab from reaching the united states. reporter: the executive order is in the planning stages. senior administration officials say they are considering a wide range of options including shutting the border. we know for sure the white house, out of the white house, 800 to 1,000 active duty military will be deployed. support personnel. they will be added to the 2,100 national guardmen on the border. the president moving to close

the border if he need to. at a rally in charlotte, the president blaming democrats for the caravan. president trump: the democrats want to invite caravan after caravan of illegal aliens into our country, and they want to sign them up for free healthcare, free welfare, free education, and for the right to vote. >> the vice president at his rally says we must remember this caravan is not a humanitarian mission coming north. >> people who organized this caravan are leftist organizations, human traffickers with no regard for human life. they are literally exploiting people, many elderly and children with no regard. reporter: the president is sending a strong message. turn back or stay in mexico.

trish: a big concern if all these people keep coming here and the left gets their way. what do you know, they would be voting. that's what you have people in san francisco calling for. that's what you have people in georgia calling for. the woman running for democratic governor of georgia. maybe that's the end game. i want to go to southern mexico for a report from fox news' william lajeunesse who is traveling with the caravan. reporter: you can see the caravan members are sleeping over here. we are right next to a rail yard for a train called the beast. it goes right through here. people in town say it's not until' later. it's not regular service, it's a freight train. some of the men tonight say they will get on that train when it comes through here. other say they will take a boat

because gangs, members of the cartel are on that train, they are subject to extortion, theft and kidnapping. some will take it, some not. late tonight president nieto offered members of the caravan medical care and a job and school for their kids if they apply. that will siphon off some of the numbers. but most of of them want to go to the united states and tijuana. trish: you saw the people behind william in that report. predominantly male. i haven't seen a lot of women and children and the families they have been telling us about. the other thing that troubles me is how few of them seem to be showing any desire to be in america in that they are still holding the honduran, guatemalan

and mexican flags. if you want to come here, don't you want to be one of us? clearly it suggests they don't. if they love their own country that much, why aren't they staying there. nick adams, founder and ceo of the foundation for liberty for american greatness. he joins me right now. nick, good to see you. >> congratulations on your time slot. trish: thank you. it's good to be here with all of you. nick, i know you went through a lot in terms of your own immigration process. a lot of people go through a lot to immigrate to the united states, to get a green card, to get citizenship. why should these people marching toward our country right now be treated any differently than you were? >> well, they shouldn't, trish. that's the great tragedy in all of this. what we are seeing unfolding is outrageous.

it's disgusting and particularly upsetting to somebody like me that crashed he t, dotted he i, had to go through medical check and police checks and any other check you could possibly conceive of. i did the right thing. it took me a very long time. it cost me lots and lots of money. but for a country i wanted to be a part of for the place i wanted to call home, i was willing to do it. these people don't show any kind of love for you the united states. trish: i'll point out something quite obvious. you are in a different position in terms of your background and your ability to spend money to be part of this country and go through the red tape you had to go through. i for one would love to see it easier for people who want to come here and contribute to have a pathway to come here. you should haven't to spend that much money and go through that much red tape if you are the

kind of person we want here. i don't understand why we can't be rather systematic about this. you proposed this. a merit-based system saying we need people that can work on the farm. we'll take the people who want to come from mexico. we need nurses. we need teachers, we need doctors, and we go through the list and say waste is we need, we'll seek as opposed to sure, come on in, legally or not, applying for asylum or getting through the border. it seems a common sense thing to me, nick. but other countries do it, why don't we? >> you are right, trish. we want people to come to the united states who are going to come to make, not take, to give, not receive. to join the place, not complain by the or change the. we want people to contribute to this nation and embrace our

values. unfortunately the left wants to have a european union of the western hemisphere, a super nation, if you like stretching from canada all the way to argentina without borders. trish: it's not just that. because they what take in he syrian refugee as well. we went through that a short while ago. for some reason there is a sense we should open our arms up and take in the whole world. but that has serious financial consequences nobody seems to want to talk about. >> the left are trying to mimic in the united states what is going on in europe even though it's crumbling before our eyes. they want an open borders regime that would embrace terrorists and immigrants alike from war zones like syria. that would mean we would lose our cultural identity, we would lose our common values, and that's what the left wants. trish: i could talk to you all

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