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>> i think it will the be a positive increase. david: thanks for the preview of what we might see this week'. that does it for "bulls and bears." thank you for joining us. here comes elizabeth macdonald with "evening edit." >> we are reeling from the murderous rampage in pittsburgh that took 11 lives worshiping in their own synagogue. this was not just an attack on the jewish faith. it was an attack on all people of faith and america's values, protecting those of faith. it cannot and will not be tolerated. liz: synagogue shooting suspect robert bowers making his first
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court appearance. he faces 29 federal charges, possibly the death penalty. rob buy adam mintz. just a week to go until mid-term election day. jason chaffetz on the vote that could change control of the house and whether the democrats' mention of government-run healthcare and staying mum on the caravan heading to the border. new caravans possibly popping up as the secretary of homeland security warns, you are not getting in. brandon judd is with us. what it means to the border towns fast turning into
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demilitarized zones. money, politics, we have the debate behind the headlines. "the evening edit" starts right now. more caravans of illegals possibly popping up beside the two we know about. president trump calling the situation quote an invasion of our country, reportedly considering executive action to do things like deny entry to migrants seek asylum. william lajeunesse is in mexico with the latest. reporter: the rules of the game are change. most of of the migrants in the caravan know president trump
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does not want them in the united states. but they believe public opinion and the law are on their side. most of people remain uninformed. most of are sleeping today after walking 45 miles last night. these people are pretty much in survival mode. 110 are considering mexico's offer of a job, medical care and school for their children. after president trump's remarks tomorrow, it could be more. one man is a dreamer. a guy who got legal status from president obama. he got bad advice. he went to honduras to see his mother and now can't get back in. >> this paper, this is my residence and social security. that's why i go now.
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reporter: the president is not worried about this caravan but also three other caravans i think you mentioned. a man died when mexican police tried to clear a bridge. he got hit with a rubber bullet on the guatemala-mexico border. 200 more are leaving el salvador. assisted by police to the border. the president threatening to cut off aid to honduras. the president said migrating is a right so migrants' rights have to be protected. you will find people here crossing through the port of entry or go between the ports, tush themselves into the border patrol or cross illegally. but as it standing right now, most of feel the united states is still their goal and remain remarkably unaware of what's
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happening in the united states and how it may effect them when they reach tijuana. liz: brandon judd is the president of the national border patrol. the migrants believe they have the law on their side. >> they are partially right and partially incorrect. when they say they have law on their side. once they cross the bored illegally, all they have to do is claim asylum. we have the right to hold them in custody. but because they are flooding us with sheer numbers, we don't have the space to hold them so we ultimately end up releasing them within the united states. what the public needs to understand, when we release them into the us -- into the united , they are supposed to show up for their court appearances and they
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just don't do it. right now 0% are showing up for their court appearances, and 80% are not. liz: we possibly have new caravans popping up. why don't they just stay in mexico? why don't they apply legally from their home countries, right? >> that shows you they don't have a legitimate claim to asylum. if they were truly fleeing for fear for their lives or bodily harm, they would stop in the nearest country that would offer them asylum. but they want to come to the united states because they want the economic advantages the united states provide. that's not a legal reason to come to the country. they are exploiting our loopholes, the lax immigration laws, and they are making it a mess for pot particulars and the citizens of this country.
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liz: do we know for a fact that criminal elements are in fact among the caravans, ms-13 among them? what's your take? >> we do know that. in this particular caravan i can't say for a fact in this one. but what we do have is history on our side to show he single caravan we have dealt with to this point always had a criminal element inside of it. because this one is three times bigger than the one in april you have to assume there will be criminal elements inside this caravan. liz: there has bench made of potential terrorists coming inside the caravan. what are the facts there? >> that we don't know. people that are coming here for terrorist purposes. they are not going to come and
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give themselves up. they are going to put themselves in the hand of the cartels. they are artificially create gaps by crossing these people between the ports of entry and try to create gaps by demeeting will our resources. that's why the military is so important on the border. >> the neighborhood and towns on the border are seeing their home areas turn into militarized zones, highly regulated government areas. that and the fact the caravan keeps coming, it's proof that the militarization of the border is just wrong. chuck schumer along with 51 other democrats along with senator elizabeth warren 10 years ago wanted a border fence and an end to chain migration
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and stop the visa lotteries and the like. the conscious has the authority to stop it. >>it is proof. when you look at it, this is one of the reasons why we have to have physical barriers on the border. the on thing that will stop these people from setting foot into the united states will be physical barriers. all they have to do is walk into our hand. we must have physical barriers on the border. liz: as william lajeunesse reported a few minutes ago. a honduran man apparently died after police shot him with a rubber bullet. it happened when several hundred in the caravan rushed the guatemalan border into mexico. kelsey, first to you. we know the democrats were tough on the border five years ago.
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they wanted to do a border fence and chain migration. the visa lottery would go away. this trip is very dangerous. sickness, threat of abduction. isn't it better to go the right way and apply from their own country? >> the democrats are doing nothing but encouraging it. that's encouraging what we are seeing. a humanitarian crisis and national security crisis. i think democrats know the base of their party is pushing for no borders at all, and many of them know they would be hypocrites if they promoted that policy because five years ago they were saying the opposite. the main real media is letting them get away with it without asking them to take a stand.
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liz: kirstjen nielsen issued this warning. >> this caravan is not getting in. there is a legal way to enter this country. those who choose to enter illegally will be stopped. there is a right way to immigrate to the united states and this is not it. >> there are a lot of problems with the gop. the democrats don't want open borders. five years ago the democrats wanted a lot of the same things donald trump has on the table but they didn't want to spend $25 billion on a wall. this honduran caravan, you all want to under electric fuelize their ability to go to their country and immigrate appropriately. liz: it's the law. >> let me make my point.
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>> you are intellectualizing it because these people are poor and diseven pran chiesed. liz: understood. and we have people who want to come in to get a job. that's not under the asylum laws. we want to help the women and children and the poor for sure. we are talking about illegals trying to cross by sneaking past the border patrol. kelsey, your reaction to that. that we have a lot of young men wanting a job. that's not the way to get in. >> many of the members of this caravan crisis are making a mockery of our asylum system. i think we need to prioritize people who need that status, not people who want that status. liz: in 2006, then senator barack obama, nor joe biden and
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senator clinton said yes to a border fence stretching 700 miles. key we have kirstjen nielsen unveiling a 4-mile border fence. why the change of heart? >> that's not true. they authorized money for improvement in the sense larger fences, more effective fences. what donald trump and the gop want are new fences along the bored that may or may not keep more people out. the fact of the matter is the caravan will come, the refugees if they want asylum, they will be processed. the fact they can't get in just because they are coming from honduras. liz: it's that they are not coming in the right way. we have to end it here. later in the show, republican congressional candidate janice arnold jones is running against
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a democrat who wants to abolish i.c.e. it was a slippery day on wall street. gerri: volatility was the watch word of the day. the tech stocks tumbled to fresh lows. stocks started the taylor but fell as tech stocks slid. take a look at the s & p 500, down more than half a percent. the nasdaq down 6%. ibm agreed to buy the software company. ibm shares fell on the news.
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liz, back to you. liz: we have in other headline news. far right candidate wins brazil's election. many are blaming the liberal workers party that governed brazil for over a decade. angela merkel announcing she'll not speak reelection when her term expires. a tragic event this morning. a lion air passenger plane carrying 189 people crashed into the sea 3 minutes after takeoff from you indonesia's capital. they are working around the
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what are the benefits and go through the courts. but that makes it more expensive for both parties and a much longer process. the problem though is that employers don't want this process because it costs a lot more money. if you goat arbitration route, it's cheaper and a shorter process. but if there is contentious issues like sexual assault cases, all of that is settled behind closed doors and the public never hears about it. these are several cases going on this week. three the justices will decide whether employees can make class action lawsuits if they are forced into arbitration. and in case you are wondering which way the court may sway. in may the supreme court rules employers can block class action lawsuits regarding wages and
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work-related incidents. it could become a lot harder to sue your employer. liz: with her reaction. we welcome fox news legal analyst mercedes colwin is here. who would do that? >> so many people do. one of the reasons why a lot of employees don't want arbitration clause. they want the threat of a jury. he can negotiate a better settlement saying i can't wait to get my story in front of this jury. you will have reputational risks and it will be made public. so there are so many buttons the employees can push. liz: to fight high drug prices we have a utah insurer. they will pay for workers to
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fill prescriptions in mexico. is that legal? >> they made arrangements with the specific pharmacy in mexico. so they will fly you there, they will get the safe transport to the pharmacy. all of this seems to be legal. i did a lot of research. and i never even heard of this. there are fda drugs you can get to the united states. >> generally the u.s. will say you can't rei am pores individually and it's for personal use because it's not fbi approved. so it's hard to square this with what the law is saying. >> you are transporting your employees to foreign countries and putting your employees at risk. at some point it can increase your risk. liz: who would they sue?
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the employer for allowing it? >> especially if they are injured. in some of the foreign countries they are talking about, they are countries where there is high crime. you are sending your employees to countries that are high crime. so what happens during that transfer back and forth. liz: president trump has been talking about reimporting drugs from overseas. he's campaigning on lowering drug prices. is this a trend you think will take off? >> sure. >> i'm an employer. i have 2,000 employees. it's crazy. it takes 30% to 40% of our bottom line is to provide insurance. a lot of employers are saying we have to look for ways to cut that cost. liz: honoring the 11 victims of the pittsburgh shooting.
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expressed, according to the fbi, to kill all jews. he moved through the synagogue using an ar-15 rifle and three handguns. >> i barricaded myself into the bathroom and 911 talk made delight, saying just stay there. we'll come and get you at some point. >> there has been an incredible outpouring of love and support. you can see that is in addition to the thousands who have come to the tree of life synagogue with cards and flowers. tomorrow the first funeral will be held for a pair of brothers. they lived with developmental disabilities. they were inseparable and never missed a saturday worship. their is one of the many stories
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of faith that will be told over the coming days. liz: joining me rabbi adam mintz. anti-semitic attacks have doubled in the last few years. what's going on? >> we don't know if it an increase in hate and violence in general or if it's anti-semitism. you look at the people who lost their lives and how terrible it was. liz: these were the guardians of the faith for their community. that's what's so striking. how good these people are. they are the examples of integrity and decency we should emulate. >> they came to synagogue early. the gunman entered the synagogue at the beginning of services.
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as unimaginable as it is, it's even more unimaginable for him to come an hour later and there would have been even more people in services. >> on his social media account. an unfiltered social media account, gab. he says jews were transporting people in the migrant caravans. he claimed they were logic because they are they were attempting to leave countries with high levels of violence. >> it's that evil rhetoric that can lead to these kinds much things. we need to limit the hatred and that kind of evil rhetoric to prevent the kind of terrible massacres from happening. >> the u.s., we are not xenophobic, the people who built
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this country are immigrants. linkage between the caravan and this attack. what do you make of that? >> it's anti-semitism. the jews came to america. they were welcomed by the americans. we are part of the very fabric of what it makes america great. and it's terrible and horrible and tragic that someone can use that kind of rhetoric and it can lead to the murder. liz: the best way to fight offensive bad speech is with more good speech. the problem on social media is this. when you are in the town square the police can come in and say that's hate speech, stop. when you are on social media the policing isn't there. isn't that an issue there? >> it is an issue. but unfortunately the hatred goes in all directions. we need somehow to get ahold of
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some of this hatred to be able to control it and make sure that it just doesn't lead to the violence. i think everybody needs to take a step back and think how can we control this hatred and rhetoric. how at least in this moment can we come together to fight these negative issues that lead to such a tragedy. >> the president has been saying the media is the enemy of the people. you would say the poisonous rhetoric is the enemy of the people, right? >> that's right. the poisonous rhetoric has come from so many different camps. we need to tone it down across the board. liz: are you worried? >> extremely worried. how do we know when something like this can happen again. i am the rabbi at a synagogue on the upper westside of manhattan.
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preexisting conditions, republicans going to get on the stick and cover it? what's going on here? >> they should. they have had a little bit of a muddled message. they promised voters to repeal and replace obamacare. they fell one vote short or i think they would have had dramatic improvement. it does affect every american and goes right to your pocketbook. liz: bernie sanders is selling medicare for all. even though it gets rid of medicare for everybody. everybody is insuring union plans. it puts everyone on a government-run plan it's based on people knowing nothing about medicare for all. it's single payer. so if you like your health plan you can't keep it under bernie care.
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he's misleading voters on bernie care. he wants to change a fifth of the u.s. economy. >> he really does try to promise the world. of course, there will be no expenses. there is no way we can pay for this. it will dramatically affect who you can see as your doctor. who makes the decisions about who gets what care and when. it's the utopia's selling that is not realistic. it's basically socialism. liz: more than half of the democrats in one poll think you can keep your insurance under medicare for all, jason. you can't. >> no, you can't. it basically goes away. the number of democrats that signed up for this is stunning. i think better said is what
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donald trump is trying to do to drive down the cost of prescription drugs. i think the republicans have done a good job of trying to make sure they can expand the services. they have to get were in the their services saying yes, yes yes we are going to take care of preexisting conditions. that would have helped my mother who has yet passed away. she'she fought cancer. you couple that with all the things going on in the election, i think it republicans will have a pretty good day. liz: if you look at the way the bernie-care law is written. democrats want it, and many of them want to go run for president. the way the law is written, it outlaws any come fission against the u.s. government under bernie-care. no other options would exist. it would wipe it out. >> somebody once said if you
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think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free. there is a lot of truth to that. if you think they will just give this all away and there won't be costs in social ramifications, it's stunning, the number of democrats who signed on, put their names on that bill saying we want to make that law. the democrats have been running far to the left. this is what socialist countries want to do like venezuela and others and it does not work. liz: to your point, jason. james free man at the "wall street journal" pound it out. if you want bernie-care you what have to cut every agency's budget by more than half to avoid raising taxes. when democrats are asked about single payer and asked about your taxes are going up, $32
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trillion in tax increases. they say we don't like it. what do you think of that? >> that's what california is moving to do. if you look at what the gubernatorial candidate is doing in california. that's the direction he wants to go. it will drive them to bankruptcy. i don't -- i don't think the democrats have a problem raising taxes. if they get the gavel. if they put maxine waters in charge of function services and nancy pelosi speaker again, i think that's what they want. they want higher taxes and more government. it's exactly what their platform calls for. liz: we have a special programming note for you. tomorrow night, look who is coming in. ronna mcdaniel at 6:00 p.m. eastern time on "the evening edit." hillary clinton says she wants to be president, on the other
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♪ liz: new mexico democrat debra howlett is running for a house seat against a democrat who wants to abolish i.c.e. janice arnold jones, great to see you. >> greetings from the land of enchantment. liz: what does getting rid of i.c.e. solve? is that a solution? >> it hurts us. i.c.e. has a specific role, not the least of which is to enforce tariffs, track down money laundering. but it's our biggest defense
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against child traffickers and sex traffickers. i think the 9th circuit court said you may not keep children in an adult facility for more than 20 days. we have a housing problem. we have such an onslaught of people seek asylum, especially children who are unaccompanied, and we didn't have the housing. what is very interesting and i'm sure you are following this. in san diego, there are parents saying we'll not take our child back because it's too dangerous where we live. liz: it's time for unity on the border, don't you think? democrats have had legislation, tough on the bored, get rid of chain migration, get rid of the visa lottery, these are
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democrats, chuck schumer and elizabeth warren. but you said putting a wall across the border doesn't make sense. >> that's not quite what i said. we have to secure our borders. there are places in new mexico where a wall may not make any sense it's a long expensive territory over some rough terrain and there are other ways to secure it. but you must secure it. i don't know that there is any other way. when you look at el paso, a fence works, san diego a fence works. but we deserve to be sovereign and have a secure border. liz: if elected what issues do you want to tackle first? >> put me in coach, i would like to tackle the rewrite of our
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immigration laws. there are problems with the law. or border control agents complain the law isn't work as it should. we have problems with the court system. we need to beef that up. people we want to come to our country waiting 10-15 years to become u.s. citizens if they are eligible. we have student at new mexico tech having problems renewing their visas. there are people who visit our country and the visas go unchecked and they just stay here. i'm a technical legislature. that's my gift, to watch the word to get it right. liz: great to see you. good luck with your race in new mexico. we reached out to janice's opponent. and her office said she is
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liz: welcome back, turns out hillary clinton may be floating a trial balloon about whether she will run for president, saying friday she would like to be president, but did not necessarily want to run again
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but did not 100% rule it out, hillary clinton made these comments as she and bill clinton are setting off on a speaking tour. scott, what do you think? is hillary a candidate? >> if i am listening to tape, as i have before, she is not, she said immediately, she did not want to run for president, i want to be president one day but i'm not run anything time soon, i think it just, i mean, the g.o.p. discussion is interesting she said she wanted to be part of american dialogue. she is very popular, and her and clinton are big draws on fundraising market for the democrats. liz: kelsey, hillary testing water of, what do you think? game on. >> i think she was testing water ofs, she said she was not interested in campaigning but
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she did want to be president. but i think fact that she made these comments so close to midterm election shows she is a bit desperate to stay relevant and tone deaf to her own base of democrat party, which is looking forward new faces like cortez is lead them to next chapter, she is trying to bring focus on herself, i think is harmful. liz: you say this about clintons, they are fighters, scott. they do keep fighting back. the thing, we have talked about this here, you know there are term limits in congress, on republican side. the republicans have a set term limit, democrats don't, the rank-and-file can't move higher, they don't get new candidates coming out, who is the democrat
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front-runner do you think? >> i think way too early, there are a lot of names on list, but not hillary clinton, i hate so see donald trump attack her again and go after her against that say problem for democrats. i will tell you, candidate that on no body's los angele list ish a independent virginia government ship record, keep an eye on him, it is a long way off. we have a long time before we pick a democratic nominee. liz: and seth a as well and tim ryan. >> a lot of names, i think one man thinks he has it, michael av
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av. >> you have gone great, we want you back, you have been terrific thank you so much. thank you for watching, lou dobbs is next right here on the fox business network. lou: good evening our top stories, man charged in shooting death of 11 people, at a hittic pittsburgh synagogue appears in court facing 29 counts including murder, federal prosecutors are seeking approval from justice department to seek death penalty in the case. president trump and first lady will visit pittsburgh tomorrow to comfort the victims. while the dimms, rinos, and national left wing media try to blame

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