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melissa: we understand that go into the vestibule area. the synagogue is still a crime area and they will light candles for each of the 11 victims later they will come out and go through the traditional ceremony which includes the laying of stones and white roses. melissa: . connell: saw that on the camera. coverage continues. thank you for joining us. "bulls and bears" starting right now. david: from wall street to walt washington were talking about the topics that matter most to you and your money. this is "bulls and bears". hello, i'm david and joining me on the panel today our very own susan lee, kevin kelly, managing partner, president of company management and ceo of the lakefield report.
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gary and john are both box leaders. shares of facebook are now up more than 1% after hours the social media kicking it out of the park with profits but disappointed on revenue and again their user growth show signs of slowing down and we have tech expert lance here with us as well. lance, what you make of this? after hours the stock came way down but now it up. white? >> it wasn't an official facebook weren't that revenue would be down because spending more money on stories and satisfying the need of the european government for privacy so they were doing stuff that telegraph this was going to happen but it wasn't as big a dip as they expected. you got 2.6 billion users and people are using the stuff every saturday and they shifted all of their revenue to mobile and i can remember the days where it struggled to do that. david: but you still have rising costs, more relations, not only here but in europe and you have the slow growth of users.
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that's three strikes and you're out, right? >> not on the scale when people continue to use it and make money off of facebook products and certainly, there is cause for concern and if you look at europe's user numbers and they have dipped, us user numbers are david: forgive me for interrupting but we have president trump in pittsburgh and he is at the tree of life synagogue were that horrible shooting took place at deadly shooting. let's listen in. he may say something here. david: okay. that was the president and first lady. they were at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh and it
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was where 11 people were shot and killed during services on saturday. there you see the president's daughter along with the treasury secretary nguyen and it is obviously very somber occasion there and i don't believe the president is going to be saying anything any fears he may - we will continue showing scenes from that occasion in pittsburgh and have more on that in just a minute. let's get back to facebook and lance, i cut you off but i just want to mention facebook has lost 35% and the stock has lost 35% since july. huge losses and it all started with that july figure when we saw that user growth was coming down. does it have any chance of getting back from the ground? >> probably not in the us and maybe not even in europe. there's a whole wide world to go after and that is something that mark zuckerberg talked about in
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the past is connecting the world. those are the markets that will push hard on it's been a tough year and tough 18 months for facebook when you see how many people have had the day - 45% growth year-over-year - [inaudible conversations] >> 33,000 is what they employ, headcount at least. i covered the earnings and pretty much it's in line with what we seen from alphabet and amazon so stop blindness, might be but that's encouraging because it goes to show even with the higher cost for facebook having to hire more people and employ artificial intelligence they made more money than expected. >> biggest problem facebook has is there a victim of their own success. they grew 50, 60% and they sandbag these earnings to be down year-over-year in order to meet and so you add another deceleration on both and that is where you have in the markdown and stock and bottom line is,
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you have a bear market for growth stocks right now and that's not helping either. then add in the other think the german said. user growth is headed down. millennial's are walking away from facebook and that is a very important sector of the economy. >> is user growth really had a lower? >> we know that engagement is coming down talking about the number of users that are using it here in the united states they gained 1 million and in north america but they are not addressed the biggest problem that is overhanging the stock. we may see it open up negative depending on what they talk about. that is the platform can be urbanized for political purposes. we seen it happen in miramar and here in the united states. vice just came out earlier today and they said they posed 100 centimeters and took out at the facebook and facebook to approve them. it is like the still not taking hold and there's a big regulatory concern that could be happening to the stock. >> those ads did not place them
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but got approval for them but they do not go forward. i agree. it shows a big hole in their control system and if they just - >> it was very clear that it had paid for by such and such are to me that doesn't seem so nefarious. >> yes, but if you are - if they lied about vice created fake people that they were going to - >> work, i focus in on the stock price and movement. up the present after hours and they're not losing users and we saw 2.26 billion people visiting facebook. [inaudible conversations] >> go ahead, lance. >> facebook needs to build trust and we came off another security breach of facebook and pretty damaging one, 30 million users affected and it's been one thing after another with facebook like every couple months or every couple of weeks and so they been
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buffeted by that. facebook needs six-12 months of pure trust growth. david: john, i'll give you the first shot because we have to move on it lance will be back with us later in the hour. a stellar bounce back by the market today. the dow making a big jump up this morning and keeping the rally right into the close. closing up more than 431 points, still a major averages are on track for the worst month in nearly one decade president trump responding to the recent selloff tweeting this - . david: john, isn't that part of the reason were waiting for the elections?
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>> no, the market is getting ahead of itself in geopolitical concerns. legitimate concern with what is going on in saudi arabia and things that could be going on and legitimate concerns with the tariff trade war that could be escalating and legitimate concerns with interest rates rising. i think the market - president trump deserves credit in this economy to lower taxes and regulatory cutting and reform has a lot to do with extending this bull market. into the one that came after the bull market ended and then he saw a renewal of the 2004 and 2005 and we saw at the time before the bull market ended but however the president is posturing for the midterm and trying to get his guys elected which is understandable. most of the program policies are in place and that will not change even if the house turned democrat which is probably going to happen however you do have certain things that will come off the table like this tariff and trade war. it will be mitigated some say negative things that could be coming off if the house changes. as far as the market, it doesn't make much difference.
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>> one of the biggest impediments is the dollar is up almost 10% since we hit the low of the years in february anything company after company talk about how those currency moves are headwinds and conference call after conference call talk about tariffs but more important talk about the strength of the dollar because they can't sell through into the emerging markets. david: but just think of what will happen with a number of investigations - if democrats take over the house they can open up all kinds of cans of worms investigations into multiple companies and there could be dozens and dozens of major companies that are brought into be invested in in ways that could really start their growth. >> history has proved that if you have a democrat lighthouse and a republican-led senate it's all about gridlock. markets are not performed well over a four year cycle under that scenario. however, year after midterms no matter who wins on a seven year basis or 20 year basis the market usually rallies because
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you have an opening that's been removed. david: although sometimes, gary, the stats show that if there is gridlock the market to say they can't do more harm. >> sometimes. but, those will be cans of worms but types of worms as far as investigation go. they've already telegraphed that and this lefty leadership is more for higher taxes, more rules and relations, finding mandates and the good news is something called the veto pen that will come out if they try to pull that shtick. as far as market itself, they talked out at never came back and half of the market topped out at the beginning of october and it is a big issue as they move forward at the end of the year. the best thing is it is way oversold and seasonality coming up but i do worry about what the market flushing out and guidance has been heading down with a lot of companies and got the tariff thing and i think economies
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around the globe are in the - i'm not so sure it's the democrats. david: imagine what would happen if the republicans have done to the house? i am thinking this downward pop, no? >> yeah, i think it would only because it would be a surprise but the pop would be and i do believe the market is speaking loud and clear. the big institutions are selling and i don't think it lets up after one month. i hope i'm wrong. david: coming up next, we were more on a president trump new warning to china if president xi doesn't make a move on a radio. and if you want to sprinkle a politics on your i.c.e. cream, white ben & jerry's new flavor might not be what you have in mind. white republicans could be asking for no scoops from that business. ♪ we started making wine in 1948... [sfx: bottle sounds on conveyor] one bottle at a time. today, we produce nearly
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david: as he mentioned at the top of the our president trump in the first lady are now in pittsburgh paying respect to the families of the victims of the synagogue massacre on saturday. fox news garrett tenney is there with the very latest. hello, garrett. reporter: good evening to you. president and his motorcade just pulled away a few minutes ago. this was the first stop on his trip to the pittsburgh area after the massacre. they were here at the tree of life synagogue where this horrific attack played out every
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morning. president along with the first lady and ivanka and jerry trump went into the synagogue along with the rabbi and president of the tree of life reverie jeffrey myers and while they were in their we were told that they prayed, they obviously did not go in to the main worship area there where the shootings took place that's very much an active crime scene but they went into the vestibule and there they lit a candle with the rabbi as well as ambassador for the 11 victims and after that they came outside and had white roses in small white stones that they brought from the white house, traditional custom in judaism and they laid those at each of the stars of david that are here in this vigil that has been growing over the last few days with flowers and cards and the president as he was getting back into his motorcade we asked him
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if he had any reaction to be here and what he said was very sad. a very sad i hope the people learn a lot and the president joining him on the trip is also the treasury secretary, stever mnuchin and he along with ivanka and jared are members of the jewish committee so this is especially impactful and they wanted to be here to be a part of that from here the president will be visiting a hospital we don't know which one but were told it will be to visit some of those that were injured in the attack and recovering including several police officers which are still being treated for their gunshot wounds which they received. after that, the president will meet somewhere with local jewish leaders to express to them on behalf of the entire nation condolences as well as the message of support in unity. back to you we want garrett,
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thank you. we want to switch gears. president trump telling laura ingram of fox news that more china tariffs are on deck if the chinese don't budge. take a listen. >> how confident are you? president trump: i can make a deal right now. they are just not ready. >> $250 . president trump: $250,000,000.270 waiting to go with can make a deal. david: what is more likely here? more tariffs or deal? >> i think there will be more tariffs. one of the reasons why is robert white house are laid out what this a meditation wants from deals and one is fairness, to his intellectual property and three is the own enterprises and not going into the market. china is unwilling to budge on any of those and we know if you want to do business there you have to give up 50% of your company in technology and it just does not jive with what the ccp want. >> i think markets are treating it like a deal is still not on the table and i would agree
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talking tough heading to locations the ammo for the is president and have to say it has worked with other countries like canada and mexico and the like but the chinese are a different animal print they don't have election and that the leader or life and i think the way out to see how the midterms work out to next week and come back and de deal. david: china, meanwhile they have been devaluing their currency which does increase their profits but however it also increases the prices they pay for foreign goods so it hurts their debt and makes it more difficult for them to pay off the debt and kills the savings of the chinese people. chinese people have big savings and it lowers the value of their savings and hurts us so it's like a triple whammy. >> the problem is china is the big enchilada. i know we have a deal done with canada and mexico but that was more of nafta and between the two countries we are talking $32 trillion of economies here and the longer this last the worst it gets and all i can tell you is all evidence in is china
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is telling us to take a flying leap right now. i like root canal better than i like tariffs but if trump can get this done because of the taxes i'll give him a standing ovation but it just ain't happening yet. david: i agree with you completely, gary. what is and point out about canada and mexico at 20% of their gdp and 90% of canada's exports gdp is to the united states and we can push him around and force her way but china is 4% and you talk about china feeling the effects they are not feeling the effects of this yet - >> wait, gary, no - on the one using that's insignificant for a country - >> cutting you off doesn't make you write but rude. let me finish. that is fair but that's how competition works. july, august and september gdp was up in china and they made
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their frontload in the tariffs and the gdp was up. exports have been up 11-12% and up july, august and september but numbers tell a defense or number say china is not feeling the effects of these tariffs. damaging next year when you add the extra 250 plus billion and may change next year when you had 25% compared to 10% but china feel like they're in a good position because of not feeling the effects - [inaudible conversations] >> stock market begs to differ. the chinese markets are down significantly since it started in one of the things you seem to cold is now they are trying to align themselves with a lot of the allies in the region and because they've lost out on american trade and so we got to align ourselves with other regional players. david: i got to give you time to finish her statement. >> your argument is being challenged and i thank you have a response ability to respond and chivalry is a great thing. >> that's it, nothing on china?
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>> i'm sure it is. >> even if there's a deal will china still play by the rules? susan, any idea? >> even with a deal i think china is trying to move right now towards a less of a dv - again it's hard - these are structural changes that could take years not months. david: gary, we are out of time and i'll give you a chance to tighten. coming up, ben & jerry's new flavor could have republicans switching to breyers or häagen-dazs. will tell you more when we return. ♪ what if numbers tell only half the story? at t. rowe price, hundreds of our experts go beyond the numbers to examine investment opportunities firsthand. like a biotech firm that engineers a patient's own cells to fight cancer. this is strategic investing.
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political move, not a profit. >> corporate visibility is what they're trying to garner here and were talking about it so they get a bit of a pr bump don't they from this political move. >> had they been involved in fire mental clauses, left causes forever and this is i have to tell you it's not even surprising and i'm sure they will come out with several other things. stephen colbert, they did one for him and i'd like to see them come out for someone on the right but doubt that will happen anytime soon. [laughter] david: coming up next, we live from apple's new product real event. first of its kind on the east coast in 16 years. plus, what to expect from apple earnings, today's way, all that is coming next.
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deidra bolton is there with the latest for us. reporter: that is right, david. you already know the products but apple adding a lot more bells and whistles so i've had pro and this one has the most applause, if you like, from when we were in the room. a macbook air and a mac mini. a lot of analysts were saying that these products have new features and that some of them needed to be upgraded and i will just go down the list for you. the ipad pro from the outside and inside the latest vision happened in 2,015. not too dramatic but the macbook air the last time you had a complete inside and out was 2010. the snarky are in the analyst were saying it's about time apple and as far as a mac mini left one is on 2014. really room for upgrade there. the purpose of this event today
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seems to be remind consumers and analysts and investors that apple is capable of making just iphones and apple watches. we had those new products released a month ago but as we head into the holiday season there are products that people can spend their dollars on and worth remembering as well. apple is not competing hard in this tablet area. microsoft has a service and google has [inaudible] - worth noting that it is more of a crowded field. david: deidra, stay with. let's bring tech expert lance back and any of these products strike as game changers that might really improve the profit of apple? >> the new ipad pro is very impressive and i think it's going to excite the creative types and that should fit well. it will be the macbook air that
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is going to partly spark the most or biggest revenue jump because people love that product and they have just been sitting around waiting. the macbook which is a mueller product, less powerful has not been enough of people even though it's super portable. this is the product waiting for so the fact that they finally fully upgraded it, redesign it to a certain extent while keeping that athens is going to make it a very big hit during the holiday season but especially during back-to-school. >> and raising prices. the new macbook air is more expensive by 20% the ipad pro by 25% also marks president there taking a playbook from introducing these higher-priced handsets that if you raise the prices you may sell less models but bump up revenue as well which looks pretty good. >> every time i get a bill on my american express i have eight different charges from apple and 999 and i don't even know where the heck it is coming from. >> it's the cloud cost. >> services aside it'll be working well for them and for me
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the big story, a company with a trillion dollar market cap, just about, they will grow their earnings for the last quarter in the 30s and revenue in the 20s. this is a miracle as far as a corporation. i cannot believe it is still owing on. i remember 2003 when it came out the ipod it would be a walkman's i've been wrong all the way. i just think it continue to stay with it and it's been a port in the storm in the market for growth right now. >> the most important thing to take away is apples trying to reinforce their core competency of computers and hardware. using them fall to the wayside when it comes to the amazon echo. everyone is using alexa not theory. this is apple trying to signal to the market come back to us on the computing side. they had not done well when it comes to the virtual assistant side so i don't know how you can
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look at apple and talk about a lot of innovation. they are focused on the financials because we not seen innovation when it comes to the tv and no innovation or movement with the car and we've heard rumors about cars so this is them going back. >> i would disagree about the information. i watched apple for a long time and they innovate both in small ways in a big race and there was innovation in the new products. if nothing else, look at the inside of these products like the bionic chip which has the most powerful mobile chip on the market and no one aims to be able to - keep in mind - >> look at the watch. that is second behind garman and some of the other. they're following the lead. samsung innovates and commoditized market on the phone and - >> i'm pretty sure apple has the best-selling market on the watch. they are definitely ahead of dormant but there are obviously a lot of good options out there.
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what i see is apple not only innovating but doing something known as can do which is raising prices and still getting people to buy their products. everyone spent a year saying the apple iphone x is a disaster and they will kill it and cut it but it was the most best-selling i found quarter after quarter so i always tell people never bet against apple and anyone who tells you it they are not innovating is wrong. >> let me ask you. why do well product launch today before earnings? is that you build momentum or buildup some visibility for the numbers? will be as good? there are doubts out there they will have their target given the track record that we see from amazon and on facebook today where they missed the top line apple will hit its target. it'll be interesting to see because when you get the% of how they done iphone 10s and 10s mac sales ten art doesn't factor and because accumulate 20 set a date
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for an event there are so many different factors that play and it has to do with they feel everything is ready. apple will hold an event like this earlier in the month and usually about 50 days earlier so a little surprised it was this late in the year but sometimes development and things slow down. for example, what happened to the apple airpower? the thing that you charge all your stuff at once - no one knows what's happening with it because they run into an issue with that technology. >> because they're innovating so well. [laughter] , one. >> that is how apple works. when it is ready, it will go. i think that is really what the timing is about. >> it is fair to say that they are not innovating new product segments but taking products that they currently have in making it slightly better. the biggest thing for apple they took black off the innovation problem is a recurring revenue. 1.3 billion active users around
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apple and around the world and just like facebook at 2.6 billion this is the largest to audiences in customer base and history of this world. you don't have to innovate extra products to get these people that already have apple products find more things. it's a matter of time before apple buys the nfl rights epo rights and ardea facebook trying to buy ipo rights in indian cricket league which rupert murdoch outfitted on. >> with the trillion dollar market cap they can do that. david: gang, thank you. and other big news president trump is gearing up for a possible constitutional showdown as he announces plans to end citizenship for babies born in the us to noncitizens. christina joins us now from the white house with more on the story. >> what we're seeing right now is legal experts are saying you will change the constitution to apply for 150 years. already we have the latest payment coming from paul ryan, house speaker and he said
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"-right-double-quote - and this is within a radio interview today said you cannot and birthright citizenship with an executive order. president trump spoke to ask the us and this is how this whole story came out. he said that this policy is only in the artist but it happens in over 30 countries and they do allow citizenship to those born on their land even if the parents are noncitizens like canada, mexico, venezuela to name a few. the president said the executive order is in the process and there's no tentative date just yet but they are working on it. the big contentious issue is the 14th amendment and the 14th amendment in the constitution talks about all persons being born or naturalized in the united states and they are citizens of the us and state they live in. that's the point of contention. the other executive order is does it apply to those babies that are born to noncitizens or only to those that are not born to immigrants that come into the
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country who are illegal. the vice president, mike pence, spoke and said it's not an election play but when you think about your midterms a week and talk about the migrant caravan moving forward and this could be a way to re-energize the gop. let the debate could be grounds for debate but can you change the constitution? difficult to do so and if they do go ahead with this could face a lot of court battle going board. david: no question but the moment he announces that it will go to court. christina, great to see a big thank you. come enough, democrat think obamacare is still a winner. they are featuring bad and a huge expansion of medicaid in their midterm campaign. more on obamacare's lingering impact in today's election next on "bulls and bears" ♪ ♪ ebrand new car and totals it. and as if that wasn't bad enough, now your insurance won't replace it outright because of depreciation. if your insurance won't replace your car, what good is it?
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>> if you want to throw red meat to race this is how you do it. look out polarizing obamacare was in 208 and back in 1990s when president clinton was the president this is something that's been thrown at the base and the reason is obamacare to not fix anything and there's no reason to go to a doctor and once a service cost you 5,000 in one place and 50,000 at another the problems with our healthcare system but adding people to the entrance road is not going to fix that and that is why obamacare did. these people need help and need coverage for what they are doing right here, to me, is that reminiscent of obamacare adding people to the world and this is redmeat to the public and base. david: >> me i throw some straps? in 1925 billion on medicaid, 80, 29, 1997, 72 billion 210,400 - [inaudible] that simply means taxes are going up, eligibility
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easier and the scam continues and the blob that will continue to grow and till our debt explodes. sorry for the pessimism. >> no, no, the cbo would be considered pessimistic do because they talked and a lot of their reports about how obamacare to build small businesses because they could not afford to hire new workers to care for them so the biggest issue i think that is being played out right now is that it is plain to the base. we do have an aging population and that is why we not seen labor participation rate take off because people are retiring and so what you want in your retirement? healthcare taking care of for you. >> how do you pay for it when you already have debt - $2,120 and by the way, that's depressing. that's like an interest rate hike on the market, as well. david: have people forgotten that rates and deductibles went way up and if they forgotten
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that people lost their doctors and lost their healthcare plans - that is what created the tea party. >> this is the whole point of this. to get medicare for all. we've seen bernie sanders and socialism cost 32 trillion but were already 22 trillion in debt so i don't know how they expect that to get through because you have even seen moderate democrats come out against states. this is a pretty interesting proposal. >> look, this country - >> go ahead, john. >> susan, you're right. were not paying for anything. this is something a six grade kid who says i'll get free pizza to everybody. who will pay for? i don't know. maybe the rich kids. if we give everything to everyone we need to fix our healthcare system but this is not the way to do it. >> we are going to send the government federally, local and state over $6 trillion this year and it's still not enough. we will send 3.3 federally and it's still not enough. why? they continue to grow all these
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businesses that government run - it's like watching jabba the hutt continue to eat more and more which means taxes will go higher and here is the thing. all we hear from the republic party is we got to do something about this. and nothing ever gets done. when will it get done? when it all goes pouf and then each will blame each other and guess what? we are sitting here as spectators. david: plan to repeal and replace but never got to the incident. coming up, colorado voters are deciding on a statewide anti- fracking measure that could be the most extreme and costly one in the country. day with us. details coming next. ♪
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david: after many years of bitter fights over oil and gas development, voters are take on an anti-fracking initiative. alicia acuna is in denver with the latest. reporter: fracking extracts oil trapped in shale. in colorado, a battle is under
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way between backers of proposition 112 who want to change the law requiring tall wells to be at least 1,200 feet from schools and water sources. reporter: colorado rising says folks who live near fracking wells are aware of the dangers. >> we feel it's our responsibility as responsible coloradoans. >> in the first year alone we'll see 42,000 jobs lost. reporter: a majority of the jobs not from oil and gas.
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>> we have strict environmental and health regulations and our come snris to abide by them. reporter: governor john his looper, john he'llway, and the denver post editorial board which writes the way the initiative is written it would effectively ban oil and gas operations in a state with rich reserves. >> fracking has thread america energy under. it has been a big boom for texas. you will see a mass exodus out of colorado if this goes through. >> hurt a state with the most of important industry that pays $117,000 a person which means
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jobs will head to texas and north dakota which means they will have to sell their homes and housing prices will go down. then what will people say, complete and utter mistake and as usual they go too far one way. you know, it's just not a smart move. >> i grew up around the fracking going away. i have seen what fracking can do to an economy. but i have trepidation. if the people of colorado are right, if they want to vote not have oil and gas, i think it's the will of the people. what they just did in mexico with a $13 billion airport, i
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think it was a mistake, but it was the will of the people. david: we are all for the environment but this is a terrible measure. >> go from fracking into the weed business. that's a big colorado thing. it's a-backwards if you ask me. >> as john said, this is state's rights. we don't want the federal government infringing on it. if they don't want to do it, good for them. they will let the ballot box speak for itself. david: the feds came down on fracking during the obama administration. >> lower oil and gas prices benefits everybody. >> if you were to track in
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california, it could take away the california debt. i think it's a bad decision. but it's their right to make a bad decision. david: it is their right if they want to do it. thanks for joining us. "evening edit" starts right now. president trump: i'm sending up the military. when you look at thousands of people, that's call an invasion of our country. we have to have strong borders. if we don't have strong borders, we don't have a country. we have millions of people coming in legally. >> they are spreading a racist lie. it's an election ploy. it's a pathetic one because now donald trump is playing the lives of the men and women of the u.s.

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