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is this man high energy or is he high energy. joining us tomorrow. louie gohmert and joe digenova join us. trish: braking right now. the -- breaking right now, the administration warning of violence along our border as mexican officials report some caravan members are carrying guns and molotov cocktails. four star general jack keane just spoke with the head our border operations. he's going to share exclusive details from that conversation. the president is considering an discussive order to end birthright citizenship. if he gets his way, just being born in the u.s. won't make a
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u.s. citizen anymore. the left is calling it cad rall. but didn't harry reid propose the exact same thing back in the 90s? watch. >> if making it ease yesterday to be an illegal alien is enough. how about offering reward for being an illegal immigrant. no sane country would do that. right? guess again. trish: hogan gidley is here on that. just when you thought the rhetoric from the left couldn't get worse. >> the biggest terror threat in this country is right men radicalized up to the right. trish: really, don? how is that not add together hate and division. how is that doing anyone any good at all. "trish regan primetime" begins right now.
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tonight u.s. and mexican authorities are warning of potential violence and aggression from the migrant caravans. the minister insists some of them will carrying guns and molotov cocktails. general jack keane, i know you had an informative conversation with the person who runs our bored operations. what did you learn? >> i spoked to the four star general who is the commander of the northern command. their primary responsibility is to defend the united states of america. he's in charge of all the military forces in charge of this southern border. they call it operation patriot.
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he said despite the fact that there are diminishing numbers here and mor morale is growing r with the first group. but the first one out of honduras, the second one just moved in out of honduras into mexico. better organized than what we have seen before. and they are more prone to violence. trish: when you say they are better organized. how exactly. we are told this is a ground swell of people marching towards the bored. you are talking about organization. >> there is a leftist political organization in honduras that opposes the regime that put this together and made a clarion call to joint caravan under the incentive we'll get you to america all be able to live there the rest of your life and
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you will have the economic opportunity you all want. those leaders of the movement are with the caravan. i didn't ccp the general this. but we possibly with mexican oimplet s. agents with this caravan to track it and identify the leaders. mexican authorities are warning this. the administration is telling us they are concerned about violence. what did you hear? >> the first caravan pushed their way through the mexican police when we watched them cross the river. that was largely due to mexican police were not there in the numbers and prepared for. the second crown came through and the mexican police were prepared for it and they started throwing rocks and bottles,
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fireworks and firebombs. and a couple guys have guns. is a level of concern that we have not had before. trish: do you think it dissipates before it gets to our border? the idea is to secure our border somehow, some way. does this caravan stop? >> i think they will probably get to the border. what the military is going to do is reinforce the port of entries. that's where you come through customs they will have more people than cars this time. so they have engineers putting up barriers. and in the gaps air. second thing they are doing is tracking the caravan. and we are using satellite imagery. we are treating it like we would any other threat. we are going to use -- when they get closer we'll use helicopters day and night and drones day and
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night. we want to know where they are going to make their entry. then, we have deployed air force cargo aircraft to pick up the customs and border patrol and move them to the point where they are going to enter. that kind of flexibility the united states military has answer they can repond quickly. those airplanes, the c-130s can land on and dirt strip or a road. trish: you don't want to mess wonderful s. military, that's for sure. it sounds like we are prepared and willing to do what we need to do to protect our country from this threat. appreciate it. a lot at stake in the mid-term elections. just one week away. how is this migrant crisis going to impact voters? here to discuss, brit mchenry
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and ethan hogan. i have had so many democrats on this show telling me the caravans are not a story. you heard the violence many are worried about, mexican authorities, and our own military. these pictures are very real. these people are very real. so why do so many democrats, so many members of your party tell me this is not real. this a how not reality? >> well, first off, great to see you, trish. thanks for having me on the show. i have a tremendous respect for general keane. we have a couple of different issues. these are still human beings. the overwhelming majority even according to general keane's report where he just met with the northern command wct overwhelming majority are not
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violent, are not carrying weapons. these are human beings looking for relief from violence their own country, or their own regime is against them. there is violence and good insecurity in central america. trish: i don't think anyone here, anyone would doubt that for one second. other than the bad guise. but ethan, you are right, i hear you. people want to come here for a better opportunity. that said, what are we supposed to do? >> well, we signed on to the u.n. refugee convention in the 50s and 60s where we have a process where we have to process them for asylum. we know from an audit the mexican detention facility is
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subject to violence, sexual and verbal abuse. we are the safest nice try to process them. trish: my heart goes out to anyone that is going through what they are going through. i think you would agree with me on that. that said, there is only so much we can do as a country. in terms of our own communities here, how do we handle the onslaught of 14,000 migrants heading to our border? >> we feel that compassion, trish. there are violent concerns here. six police officers at one of the stops, the third group breaking through the guatemala-mexican border it was reported six police officers were seriously injured and didn't have the equipment to combat them. we know that won't be the case
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with the military under james mattis. this creates more criminal activity in mexico where the central americans are paying up to $10,000 to network to get them across the border. we can't have a domino effect here just because we have compassion. according to voters. a new rasmussen poll shows 54% support the president. trish: historically democrats have been for tighter borders as well. what happened to the party? your party? >> i'm not against knowing who is coming in to our -- into our country so we can weed out criminals and cartels. ellis island. we were processing nearly 2,000 people a day through ellis island. so when my ancestors came over.
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trish: by the way, we weren't that nice back then. people's last names got mutilated because they changed them to make them more anglo. there were problems with people with health concerns getting stuck on ellis island. this a naive version of history where we think we have always been incredibly welcoming. we haven't been as welcoming as some would like us to believe. and that's because of a reality that everybody has had to gram with. >> we are all proud to be americans ande allave stiesf getng her t t ecomy ioing so well, this is pivoting to a huge talking point. it's getting more political than it should with the mid terms next week it's been a 40-year low for migrants going across
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the border. it has been tough enforcement. trish: these people. yes, right. i have got proof that they care a whole lot more about politics than they do these immigrants. and new tonight, president trump is considering an end to a long-time american tradition of birthright citizenship. >> it was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. number one, you don't need that. you can definitely do it with an act of congress. but now they are saying i can do it just with an executive order trish rrp hogan gidley spells
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that left 11 people dead. not there today, the top four congressional leaders. they were invited by the president, but they didn't show up. tonight i asked white house deputy press secretary hogan gidley how come. let me ask you about this report we are getting that a number of lawmakers including nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, they were all invited to go to the ceremony today to mourn the loss of those 11 individuals in pittsburgh and our understanding is they declined. do you know why? >> i don't. but that's their own decision. the president did not want to make this political. he wanted to offer a bipartisan trip up to pennsylvania to have this day of grief and mourning and prayer to help heal a community. that's why he wanted to go today
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and he went. if they don't want to go, they had -- they expressed they had commitments. the president wanted to make the invitation and it was up to them to accept it. trish: it was the right thing to do to invite them. the caravan of migrants inching their way closer and closer to our border. we are getting reports from mexican authorities that some of these people have the potential to be violent. they are carrying poll top of -v cocktails. >> there is confrontation between members of the caravan and the mexican authorities. we need to know who is coming
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into this country. there are reports of hundreds of people in the caravan are criminals. we have people on video saying when we get there we are not going through a port of entry. we are going to break the law and come into this country. the president ran on it and two octobers ago he put together a 70-point immigration plan and the democrats wouldn't come to the table. he drew it down to four pillars. the democrats were so opposed they shut down the government. they stood tall and strong to millions of people here illegally. trish: it wasn't always like this. there was a time when at least chuck schumer, hillary clinton,
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barack obama, were in favor of strengthening our protection along the border. there was a time, and i'll play the clip later in the show where harry reid said we should be reexamining the birth right citizenship because you have too many immigrants coming here and having babies and being able to recruit other family members. the president is have much under fire for his talk of potentially putting together an executive order to end birth right citizenship. >> one of the thing that changed is the fact they changed the political calculus. it looks as though they need these votes. so that changes things. and the situation has gotten much, much worse. it's way more dire than it has been in our nation's history.
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and donald trump is president. they don't like the so they will do everything they can to oppose this president even if it means playing politics with people's lives. the president called them out from day one. trish: this is not a story. >> there are criminals coming in this group. this is something when they get here -- even if they are claiming asylum, you can't asylum shop. once you leave the country of which you are trying to flee and say they are oppressive and my life is in danger. by international law you have to claim asylum in the first country that giv y that option. the president is looking at every option on the table to protect the american people. when they get here, most of
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asylum seekers we capture, we can't send them back to the country of origin. we have to release them into american communities. trish: birthright sit seasonship has been guaranteed in the 14th amendment. it reads, all persons born or naturalized in the u.s. and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the united states. can the president undo the 14th amendment to deal with this onslawft what he calls our? not as radical an idea as some on the left would have you believe. the senate majority leader harry reid introduced to bill to end birthright citizenship.
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>> if you break our laws to enter this country to give birth to a child, we reward that child with citizenship and guarantee public and social services this society provides. that's a lot of services. is it any wonder 2/3 of the babies born at taxpayer expenses in los angeles are born to illegal alien mothers? trish: that was a democrat asking for this. we have the legal and historical perspective. joining me, tom dupre and doug wead. we'll get to the evenings. but first from an historical perspective. walk me back to the origins of this and explain the continues between 1868 and where we are now in terms of people being
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able to come here quite ask deliberately to have a child and gain citizenship. >> the 14th amendment came out of the dread scott decision. it was written to protect the babies of african slaves so they couldn't be sent back to africa. it was never envisioned some day people would get on jets and fly to america to have babies. trish: we have seen wealthy asian women come together u.s. and giving birth. that's one aspect of it. then you have people that are fleeing to this country and coming in illegally and giving birth to a child that establishes citizenship for the families. finish your thoughts. >> donald trump is trying to protect america from the fate of european nations that have seen their economies strained and
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societies and cultures destroyed and pc laws passed almost eliminating freedom of speech. my wife is french, and she can tell you stories. he's trying to think what can we do? do we just give up and wipe out the middle class? orson welles once said if it becomes normal to accept law breaking. you destroy your country. trish: we have a 14th amendment. for those who would fly in because they had the means, and deep pockets to do so to gain their child citizenship. it's still the 14th amendment. how does he get around that?
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>> you make a good point. times have changed and history has changed but the text of the 14th amendment has remained constant. i think that the president would have an uphill battle to say the least if he were to issue this executive order and attempt to defend it in the court. most of legal scholars would say the amendment means what it says. if you are born on united states soil you are a citizen. trish: some people say maybe they are not subject to the jurisdiction. but i would think the minute you step into this country no matter where you are from, you are subject to our jurisdiction because you are in the u.s. >> i don't think we would want to take the position a child an illegal immigrant isn't subject to u.s. laws. i think it's a difficult argument. but the president's approach,
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he's injecting this topic into the public debate. i suspect his strategy is stop me if you will. i am going to do what i think is the right thing to do and i'm willing to fight this up to the supreme court and let the courts decide. trish: the left blasting president trump and his border policies. they will tell you we need to welcome these migrants into our country because it's who we are. but you know what? don't kid yourself. the left doesn't care about these people in the caravan. but i'll tell you what they really care about. they care about the folks they represent. i have the proof unfortunately and i will show you next. what if numbers tell only half the story? at t. rowe price, hundreds of our experts go beyond the numbers to examine investment opportunities firsthand.
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trish: tonight as thousands march towards our border, a massive migrant community actually poses for our country, for our economy and society, the left sees votes. pretty simple. votes and their power. all these call s from the left to welcome everyone into the country. they are not motivated entirely by altruism. just the opposite. they are motivated by selfish political opportunity. by selfish political people. i had one such opportunist on the program that night. i asked him what illegal voting would represent. he's an advocate for illegal voting in elections because he wants them to quote have a voice. i don't disagree entirely with
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that. but i do have some empathy for them and i understand it. he's a member of the san francisco school board and in san francisco illegals can vote for the school board. when i asked him if this is all really about representation as wants us all to believe and actually would be a good thing for him anyway, this is way got back. >> what if all these people said i like donald trump and i like conservatives. and i actually want to vote for conservatives. would you still be just as enthusiastic? be honest. >> our president is a tyrant so our undocumented immigrants are not going to support somebody who shouldn't be in the white house and has been focused on attack and separating families. that's a question we'll never see happen. trish: humor me. >> if i humor you, they won't be
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voting for donald trump. trish: and so it went. he's happy to have the vote so long as they don't vote for republicans. how is that authentic? i get it, mr. walton. you want votes. you want everybody on your side. but i would only point out that it would be a lot better for your argument if you actually believed in what you were saying. here to debate the left power grab is trump 2020 campaign advisor katrina pierson and scott bolton. >> if they were from scandinavian countries, would we be sending the military to the border to stop them from coming in? what if they were wealthy?
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no, they are black and brown and poor people and you won't let them in. that's the biggest difference. >> it doesn't matter what race anyone coming into this country illegally is. the president has been consistent since the 2016 campaign. if you are not in this country illegally, you should not be here. that's why donald trump won. you have this i will logical philosophy on the left that somehow every one rrp but americans should be put first. with your guest last night, he was literally advocating support for a sovereign community to give up their right to self governance to a group of people who disregarded that governance to have a say in how they are children are being governed. it's i will logical. >> i raised my question to you
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because i listened to the president where he talked about a-hole countries and can we get some scandinavians in here? that's the mindset of the president. why are we so afraid of letting black and brown people into this country. i don't want open borders. and i don't want anybody that's ms-13. but the more people we get into america and the more diverse they are we should be celebrating that diversity. trish: i agree 1,000 percent. and i am for diversity of opinion. but we need people coming to this country legally. >> we have people coming in illegally and expecting to have rights as citizens. [all talk at once] >> there are 730,000 people backlogged in the legal immigration process.
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are we going to say anyone who wants to come in come in? >> i didn't say that. trish: i know our saying and you said it over and over again. you said somehow this is a racist kind of argument that somehow once again this is big bag donald trump, the big bad republicans being rate racist because they won't let 14,000 migrants not holding our flag, not suggesting they want to come here for a better op, but holding the guatemalan and honduran flag. this is getting tiresome. >> these people coming to the southern border are black and brown and your ancestors weren't. what are white people so afraid of. >> my ancestors are different from yours, trish, but the
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were a betting man that she is back in there. >> if i were a betting man i would think we are in powerball territory. i think it odds of her are pretty small. but she watches fox like i do. you guys treat her like she is running. sometimes you think she might as well run. she is obviously not happy with what she is seeing and i think that's what she has been commenting on. trish: she is thinking maybe maybe maybe, but maybe not. let me ask you about an article she wrote recently. i want to get your thoughts on this. she had an op-ed in the atlantic. she said you won't be surprised to hear i passionately believe it's time to abolish the electoral college, you know that little thing we have had for hundreds and hundreds of years. but it helped us with our transition of power and helped
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us elect presidents. those founding fathers were pretty smart folks. so why would we be willing to get rid of it now? >> i think it's important to note when she first said it, she said it in 2000, not in response to her loss two years ago. the electoral college had a purpose early on that it's not fulfilling now. trish: you agree with her? >> i do agree with her. abolishment is not the answer. there are some alternatives that make sense. the reason they put the electoral college in is the founding fathers didn't trust anybody. it was also partly to placate southern slavery. but once there were two part why is it has taken off a different way. i have to admit i have never gotten into the weeds on this until i knew i was coming on. the argument that people -- you learn something new every day --
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the argument that people running for president wouldn't go to small states is not valid. if you look at 2016, 53% of the stops the two tickets made were to four states, florida, ohio, north carolina and pennsylvania. 27 states were never visited by any of the candidates. trish: i grew up in new hampshire a very small place. it is part of our state constitution. we have got to go first. >> main has the split system where you could go different ways. trish: those two electoral votes, they mean something. i think we got a lot more attention not because it's first in the nation but because we did have those electoral votes. i worry fit all went to
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california or new york, those people elsewhere in the country would not have as big a say. but you mention she had this idea back in 2000. >> 2001 when she went to the senate after gore won the popular vote and lost the election. >> the concern, why bring this up now. wasn't she the one who said she promised she would respect the outcome and she was nervous about donald trump not respecting it? let me play this for the viewers and you react. >> a you willing to accept the outcome as the will of the voters? >> i support our democracy. sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. but i certainly will support the outcome of this election. >> she did. trish: she doesn't seem -- she is talking about getting rid of
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the system that stood by us for over 200 years. >> i was one foot away from her when she called donald trump at 1:00 in the morning and congratulated him. you are asking me about hillary and whether she accepted it. she is not trying to change the electoral college because she wants 2016 undone and for her to be restored as the rightful president. trish: i'm not suggesting that. i'm suggesting she might have something in mind for 2020. >> no. do you realize it's impossible to do that. it would take a constitutional amendment. 3880s would have to do it. i am more likely to be president than the electoral college. trish: you are more likely to vote for donald trump in 2020.
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cnn criticizing president trump for divisive rhetoric. but one of cnn's own is claiming the biggest terror threat in our country happens to be white men. florida congressman matt gaetz will respond to that sound after this. >> biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of of them radicalized up to the right. when i was shopping for car insurance, the choice was easy. i switched to geico and saved hundreds. excuse me... winner! that's a win. but it's not the only reason i switched. hi! geico has licensed agents who i can reach 24/7. great savings and round the clock service? now that's a win-win. winner. winner. yay me! oh, hi! good luck. switch to geico®. it's a win-win.
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>> we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of of them radicalized up to the right. we have to start doing something about them. noise travel ban on them. they have the muslim ban. there is no white guy ban. what do we do about that? trish: the biggest threat, the biggest terror in the united states happens to be white men? i guess i'm glad i'm not a white man. congressman matt gaetz is. >> i just got done with my round
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of golf and core dancing. i think we all recognize what don lemon's business model is. every night he goes on television and callshe ce ynd hpos ere abo a million people who tune in. there are ises willing to -- there are advertisers who pay to reach that model. we realize there is a lot we have to get done. jobs, energy, security, it will require everybody working together. we don't need this identity politics. trish: i asked the president about this recently. he said the way beyond identity licsmi grth ifeanif aid. erydyan iroay yo he ite lsinr
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