tv Trish Regan Primetime FOX Business October 31, 2018 8:00pm-9:01pm EDT
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citizen. lou: that's it for us tonight. we thank you for being with us. thanks for joining us. good night from new york. [♪] trish: breaking right now, a fourth caravan making its way to our border as americans promise to take up arms themselves and form their own militias to fight this threat. the president promising to send even more u.s. troops to the border. president trump: as far as the caravan is concerned, our military is out. we have 2,008. and we'll go up to 14,000. nobody is coming in. trish: but if thousands march toward the country, the president tonight is doubling down on his executive order to
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end birthright citizenship. gregg jarrett says the president is making the right move, and it's about time. it's long overdue. brand-new tonight, less than one week from mid-terms, a fresh fox news poll shows the president's approval rating rising in battleground states. the blue wave may be crashing. "trish regan primetime." civilians on our side of the border preparing to take matters into their own hand to stop what president trump calls the migrant invasion. the border patrol warning landowners along the texas-mexico border to prepare for an influx of armed
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sicilians. joining me is the head of custom enforcement. i guess this is way it's coming to. people feel very threatened. they feel this is an invasion. they see the pictures of thousands of migrants heading our way and they are saying we need to stop it. we need to do something. what do you think we are going to see when these people show up on our doorstep? >> i appreciate their intentions and they are trying to be patriots and protect our borders. but i'm troubled by the fact there is an armed militia on the border. i wish they would leave the apprehension. trish: to the pros. >> they may be dope smugglers or mule packers and may be heavily armed. i wish they would leave the apprehension up to the
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professionals, the border patrol. they should not, you know, approach them and try to apprehend them. i think that's a recipe for disaster. trish: the president is talking about potentially 15,000 troops going to the border. how many realistically do you think you need when you have got up to as many as 14,000? if you combine all these caravans together. if they are able to make it through this trek, what is it going to take to stop them? >> i have been an immigration officer for 34 years. too much is better than not enough. we need to send a strong message on this first caravan. i salute the president for sending a large military contingent down there to support the border patrol. the reason this caravan started was because the congressional delegation on the hill would not
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fix the loop holes we asked them to fix. the last caravan came through, they got released. many didn't snoip court and they are lost in society. they see this and pay attention to this. and the criminal organizations advertising this. this caravan will have a direct impact on all the other caravans being formed. trish: we have reports tonight of a fourth caravan. they keep assembling. the hope is at some point they break up. but it doesn't -- when you look at the situation on the ground in mexico, it doesn't look as though that's what's going to happen. tell me about the people in this group. the mainstream media would like you to believe it's a lot of women and children. look at those pictures. i don't see a lot of families. i see a lot of young men maybe coming here to look for farming
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work. and there is concern they are not all coming here for a chance for a better life. that there are criminals amongst them and this is something the administration is warning everyone about. >> this administration, the commissioner of the cdp and the 4-star general leading up the military response. they have access to the most of sophisticated intelligence in the world. they know who is in this group. based on my past experience. we did an ms-13 operation last year. 40 perp -- 40% entered this country as part of a family unit. fox news interviewed somebody wanted for homicide. there are bad people in this group. but even the ones who aren't
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bad. let's say the women and children are coming to get a better life. folks have to understand that does not qualify for asylum. trish: what about if they say they are in a violent situation. in guatemala or honduras and they need to seek asylum in the u.s. for those reasons. what do you say to that? >> they are two countries away from honduras. but they are now in mexico. mexico has offered them asylum and a job. if they are escaping fear and persecution. here is your safe haven. so this isn't about escaping fear and persecution. this is about get together united states to get a job and rejoin family members who are already here illegally. i am sure there are some in
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there actually escaping fear and persecution. but for the 80% to 90% who are playing the game and taking a advantage of the loopholes. they are back up the line for those who need our help. trish: we have seen the pictures and people stampeding that gate there and clearly the mexicans haven't been able to stop it. is this just lip service? >> i don't know if they couldn't stop it or wouldn't stop it. i find it hard to believe they couldn't do better. >> once people come here to the united states, it's a big source of income for mexico, honduras and guatemala. >> that's a great point. millions of dollars every year go to these countries, including mexico in remittances. illegal aliens here will send
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money home. that's a big part of their gdp. they don't mind a big all yellen population in the united states because they send money home to their home country. they can do a lot more and i hope they do. trish: tom, thank you so much for being here. another caravan is making its way towards the border. this is the fourth group of migrants now en route from the capital of el salvador. police officials estimate their ranks to be as large as 2,000. we have seen a lot of these caravans grow as they make their way to the u.s. the president talking about the caravan and saying we are prepared. watch him. >> we are toucher than anybody. we are tougher than any force. and we are probably going to have to be, unfortunately. i tell them, turn back, and they
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are not going to be released. it's called catch, but we take the word release out. we are not releasing anyone. >> the president vowing to send up to 15,000 troops to secure our border. joining us, nigel farage. this has turned into something. we have reports of people in the u.s. creating their own militias. they want to be armed so they can fight this assault as they call it. nigel, is this wait comes to when people really feel like they are that under threat? >> i think the president is responding to that by offering the number of troops at 15,000. the last thing trump will want to see are civilians getting into fights with illegal immigrants. that would be bad news. but these four caravans coming to north america. we saw this in europe in 2015.
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we saw a maritime caravan coming across the mediterranean. politics care lied not knowing -- fair lighte -- paralt knowing what to do with it, then said you can come in. politicians are scared to talk about this. people really care about this stuff, and i think trump absolutely is doing the right thing. i really do. trish: it didn't used to be this political. during the 90s there are plenty of examples of democratic lawmakers saying we need to strengthen our borders. he's been accused of many things including nazism for his desire to strengthen our borders. >> similar things were said
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about me even last week. the new globalist elites believe we are all citizens of the world. they want the free movement of people. the european union was their test site for it. they want to spread it to the rest of the world, but it's not work. middle england rejects this. middle america rejects this. why on earth should somebody illegally come in and have the same rights as me. the other aspects of this. of those 8 men who committed the' barbaric attacks new englandland, five of them got into england posing as refugees. if that's not a warning, i don't know what is. trish: the mainstream media ramping up their attacks on president trump.
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one saying it's like the fear-mongering tactics used by the nazis. this so wrong and so irresponsible. and this is an insult to history. my intel on it next. as the migrant caravans get closer to our border. the president double down on issuing an executive order to end birthright citizenship. but gregg jarrett says president trump is right. you're headed down the highway when the guy in front slams on his brakes out of nowhere. you do, too, but not in time.
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>> i'm sorry. i won't say specifically what regime this out of. but read your history books and look at some of the most of abhorrent regimes in the 20th century. it lines up historically exactly with what certain countries were talking about when they were talking about gypsies and jews. trish: he has been going down
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that path for weeks now. even going so far as to compare the president to adolph hitler. i can't tell you how angry this makes me. this is dumb, pathetic and historically wrong rhetoric. and it should not be used. have some respect for yourself. if not for yourself. have some respect and understanding and appreciation for history. to suggest that anything happening today is akin to what happened in nazi germany as alan dershowitz said on this network is to deny the holocaust ever existed. it does disgust me. i get that they are leftist networks and they are look for ratings. but this is too much. these comments show a complete
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lack of knowledge, a complete lack of historical facts, and that's kind of despicable. the more i talk about it, the angrier i get. i'm going to bring in my good friend, geraldo rivera. >> it's the first time brought me in to calm things down. around jewish american. >> i am. trish: as well as hispanic. how does that make you feel, knowing they are saying we are witnessing is akin to what we saw in world war ii. >> i think it's intellectual diarrhea. scarborough is so far off the mark. what he's saying is so anti-historic. you had an industrialized nation who used the techniques of 20th century industrialization
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to attempt top eradicate an entire race of people. nazi germany had as its core mission the eradication of all the jews. compare that to someone with whom you have a partisan disagreement and some to slanner them in that way does a disservice to his viewers and the nation. when you exacerbate it with this exaggeration, it's beyond the pale. he's a form congressman. he should know better. he knows what he's doing. and it's reckless and irresponsible. trish: why is he doing it? >> there is a laziness. i don't like donald trump, so when i don't like him, what's he like web's like other things i don't like. how about nazis. he's a nazi. it's something that when i
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defend the president even though i disagree with the president on many issues including the migrant caravan. and yet i look at him and i say never in our recent history have we had a president whose press has been more malignantly negative than donald trump gets. everything he does or says is construed in the most of evil way possible. when you take offed the gloves and when you can smear him with any kind of insult, why not go with the ultimate insult web's a nazi. this should not abide. >> they had a sort of suedio intellectual quality about them on that show which is really one giant shame. because they don't know. they need to go back and study a few history books. the president talking about the left one media in fort myers.
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i want you to listen to this. president trump: they are pushing people apart. it was fake and it was make believe what they said. i came home, looked forward to seeing it, and it was sad. when we talk about division. this is a big part of the division right there. trish: there he is point together mainstream media. the cameras in the back. do you think the media is part of this division? >> imagine if you are donald trump and you know 20 of the best reporters in "the washington post" want to kill you. the same with the "new york times" and cnn. i admire all these people, they are our colleagues. but when you watch cnn, it's difficult to look at that network and think of it as
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anything but partisan. and they didn't used to be, not so overtly. i think the media joined up that pittsburgh thing. the president goes to the slaughter of jews than was a counter-protest. it's so rude. it's a democratic governor and mayor in pittsburgh. to make of that most of solemn duty a president has. it's part of the process where you can gin up that kind of disrespect. i'm so glad the mid terms are almost here and almost over. maybe for a year we can cool things down. trish: i don't know. it's gotten bad. i am angry, you are angry. we will be angry together. they have to stop this.
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new tonight. more evidence of the left, hypocrisy. liberal folks slamming trump's immigration policy. but you know what? this isn't new. bill clinton and barack obama said we need to fix our broken immigration system. why is it when a republican calls for tougher immigration laws, it's somehow racist. but when a democrat proposes it, it's okay? tomorrow i'm speaking with vice president mike pence. the vice president joining me right here on "trish regan primetime" tomorrow.
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to our borders. he's vowing protect the sovereign tough our nation. the democrats say it's racist. if you go back in time, the democrats proposed the same thing and somehow that's okay. >> it's wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must do more to stop it. >> we simply cannot allow people to pour into the united states undocumented, unchecked. >> we don't want to do anything to encourage more illegal immigration into this country. >> the american people are fundamentally pro legal immigration and anti-illegal immigration. we are only pass come prehence tough reform when we recognize this fundamental concept. trish: i don't get it. why the change of heart?
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joining me now richard fowler and deneen borelli. you heard the sound. you had plenty of people on the left say we need stronger borders. we cannot allow illegals to manipulate the system and be here improperly. so why is it different now? >> i think it' a misconception. i think there is an argument being made in the media and other places that say democrats believe in open borders. that's fundamentally not true. president obama doubled the border patrol. but there other ways to deal with it. there is a lot of things week do. we can work on stabilizing the governments in guatemala, honduras and nicaragua. trish: you know what i heard
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including from a democratic strategist, that this is racist not to allow them in. this is the rhetoric. by the way, the people over there and msnbc are equating this to. talk about a total lack of responsibility. >> i hear you. i hear you and i understand the complaint. but what have you heard from the candidates running for office? trish: they think donald trump is the worst thing since hitler. we have a problem here with thousands of people marching to our border. i get it. i want to help everyone too, but the reality is you can't. we need to address this problem. we need immigration reform. nobody on the left except mr. fowler wants to hear that. how come? >> it's not surprising. i say keep those reels rolling,
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what we heard from former president clinton and obama over the years. now there is an about-face and president trump is racist. this is utter nonsense. it's about safety and security of americans. keeping our country safe. we can't just have people come into our country just because they want to. there is a process and they need to get in line like everyone else. we cannot take care of the world. this is basic economics. and if you are going to have an influx much people coming in, it will be a further strain on our system. we can't have that. >> we should keep. the president said we should change the idea of what it means to be a citizen.
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we were born in the united states of america. that's funding amountal to who we are as the united states of america. trish: i appreciate you saying that, and i'm not entirely unsympathetic about that. and we'll talk about it later with gregg jarrett. but i want to get back to this crazy sort of moment we are living. the democrats made this an issue. they try to point fingers and say it's donald trump and conservatives. but the democrats have taken hold of this issue and driving it home as the biggest news wedge issue. >> we want to have a conversation. if you look at the eat recollection. if you talk to arizona voters, they will tell you the top issue isn't immigration, it's preexisting conditions in healthcare. in nevada, they will tell you the top issue is healthcare. you talk to voters in new
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mexico. the only person talking about immigration in this threatening caravan coming toward the united states is president trump and vice president mike pence. >> you have the leaders nancy pelosi and chuck schumer telling democrat candidates to ignore the caravan, to ignore it like it's just going to go away. people who support -- i didn't interrupt you, richard. people who support president trump are concerned about the safety and security of americans. they are concerned about border security. he didn't pull this out of thin air it's a campaign promise he made. trish: we have a lot coming up as we continue watching this caravan right now. the fourth one approaching our border. house minority leader nancy pelosi says she knows when the
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political discourse will ease. let's just say i doubt she is right. her solution for cooling the heated rhetoric. you will hear that next. plus we continue to cover the thousands of people heading to our border. the president says he' he's seng 16,000 troops if need be. he's speaking live in fort myers, florida. we have more after this. i've always been amazed by what's next.
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trish: nancy pelosi saying when democrats win back congress, then the country will begin to heal. joining me with his thoughts now, fox news chief national correspondent ed henry. thanks for being on the show. what do you think of nancy pelosi saying this. there has been a lot of opportunity to bring people together and we haven't seen people embrace that. >> it seems like she has a secret plan to bring back civility. where has it been hiding? you had hillary clinton as you talked about on the program saying we don't want civility in the trump era. we can't when you have someone on the other side who is so much against everything you stand for. so james cameron the actor says if the republicans keep the
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house there will be quote-unquote blood on the streets. it's bizarre nancy pelosi is saying we are going to bring civility back but we have to win first. they don't let the president off the hook. democrats saying wait until after the election. if we win, we'll be really good. it sounds like when you are telling your mom you want a chocolate chip cookie. i'll be really, really good. trish: it's a little bit frightening, ed. that everything is reduced to what it is reduced to. there was a time when plenty of democrats wanted to see stronger borders. but now when donald trump asks for it it gets turned on its head and gets turned into racism? >> nancy pelosi says when the democrats ask win back the house
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we'll bring back regular order and solve the nation's problems in a way that is not divisive. what about the last time democrats had power. they jammed through obamacare. was that divisive? yes or no. i think it was pretty divisive it was in ror who said we need to pass the bill so we know what's in it. about she thinks we have forgotten what she did when she was speaker. voters are paying attention. she had steven colbert, an audience clapping when she said i think we are going to win the house. even colbert was sceptical and said it sounds to me like you are measuring the drapes. where are you going to celebrate, on that fireworks barge hillary clinton had? even stephen colbert is not buying it. that's a problem. the mid terms, just six days away. the fox news poll shows tightening races across the
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country. the senate races in arizona and missouri a dead heat. other races across the country also tightening, including the new jersey senate race. we also i will point out, we invited the incumbent democrat bob menendez. he declined. i'm glad you are here. how do you think things are feeling there in new jersey? >> we are so energized. over 500 campaign events. intensity is increasing. we are feeling change in new jersey. trish: you see nancy pelosin and this divisiveness. you have seen the comments we were playing from msnbc where they are comparing the president to the likes of hitler. really disturbing stuff.
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>> i think the kavanaugh hearings were the low point for our society. how can you not be embarrassed. the supreme court, one of the most of revered, respected organizations. people want people to start working together again. independent, let's put the people first instead of party and politics. people want that. that's resonating in our campaign. trish: what made you decide to get in there? >> it wasn't my plan. but my wife and i were offended that this man was going to be re-elected progress cally unopposed. his best friend convicted of 7 felonies for defrauding medicare. new jersey is 50 out of 50. we get the least back than any state. trish: is it tough in a state
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that is historically blue to be red? >> politicians should be tough. you need to prove to them that you are committed. you have got to work through this process and deliver the message i am going to work hard no matter what. we made it through this campaign, six days left. we are going to push through, getting out the vote. the polls have us up two points. the people of new jersey will get better. trish: you are up right now, you have got six days to go. do you think there are going to be some surprises elsewhere, not just new jersey. you expect to win in new jersey. >> i think there will be. senator schumer announced $2 million against me and $9 million or $10 million. heidi heitkamp has less, and bill nelson has less. we are going to win on our own.
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but we have taken $9 to $10 million. trish: i'm being directed by the control room, you are down a point or two. who can trust polls these days. >> november 6 is the only poll that really matters. the invitation still stand for mr. menendez. as thousands march toward our country, the president doubles down on his executive order to end birthright citizenship. our own gregg jarrett says the president is making the right move on this one and it's long overdue. the president addressing the 14th amendment moments ago at that rally in fort myers, florida. president trump: illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the united states. today...
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citizenship to children born to illegal aliens. these words, they believe give them cover because of the quote subject to the jurisdiction thereof issue. they say the children of illegal immigrants are not subject to our federal government's jurisdiction. not so fast. you see, everyone that steps into our country is kind of subject to our jurisdiction, right? except those who have diplomatic immunity. i argued it's because of this federal jurisdiction that the democratic mayors are totally wrong to harbor illegals in their so-called sanctuary cities. watch. >> i want to be clear. we are going to stay a sanctuary city. you are welcome in chicago as
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you pursue the american dream. >> if they are a law-abiding person or have don't minor things even people we know might have done, we can't see them deported and families torn apart. >> we'll continue to be a place of refuge and a place immigrants can come to and they can feel safe. trish: the federal government has jurisdiction over illegal immigrants in cities like l.a. and new york and chicago. or so we thought. this brings touts administration's interpretation of jurisdiction. fox news legal an this gregg jarrett joins me right now. you can't have it both ways. either we have the jurisdiction or we don't. you can't have your cake and eat it too. >> people here are southbound our laws but not subject to tour jurisdiction as the framers of
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the 14th amendment intended. you have to look at the authorship of this and the three main authors back in 1868. they made it clear this did not include foreigners and aliens. in fact the united states supreme court said this specifically excludes children of foreign citizens who were born here. and that was the law of the land, trish, for 100 years. the children of foreign citizens born here were not birthright citizens. but in the 1960s the execut executive" branch broadened the scope of it. so this president believes it was misapplied and misinterpreted. trish: wasn't there a case in the 1920s where there was a gentleman who sued because he had parents that were both from
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asia, and he wanted to be american so he then sued and it was determined that base was born here in the u.s. that he therefore was american. >> that was 1898. that was a case in which the children were of parents who were legal residents here. what the president is talking about is people who are here illegally. under article two of the constitution he's duty bound to faithfully execute the laws if he believes a law is being incorrectly applied, he's duty bound to correct it. trish: i'm discovering all this, and i appreciate your legal knowledge. but if this was designed as the 14th amendment to deal with people who had brought here against their will, slaves that had been brought here against their will and we were trying as a country to determine what
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would then happen to their children and their ancestors in the aftermath of the civil war, part of that determination was these people were brought here against their will. so the difference is people coming here illegally are coming because they want to come here, and they are doing so knowing that they are coming which is very different than bringing people into slavery here. that said, the kids. they are not willingly coming here. >> that's correct. think it this way. if a couple from france came to the united states to visit, and they had a child born here. why do we think that child tows allegiance to the united states government, probably owes allegiance to the french government. taken american baby in france. we don't expect that dlield have allegiance to the french.
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trish: what would she receiptically happen. you think about native reservations in the u.s. >> they were exclude. trish: is that what would happen to people who have children here, these children that are here from illegal parents? >> native americans were specifically excluded by the framers of the 14th amendment. they were offered citizenship years later by acts of congress. that's completely separate. thought it does underscore the framers inten intended to accept certain people. but in the elk case threat specifically said we are excluding children born of foreign citizens. for 100 years children of illegals were not allowed to be citizens underscores that was likely the intent of the
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framers. trish: this could be a pretty fascinating case to watch. legal scholars will be able to sink their teeth into this one. we have a lot more coming up. tomorrow i have got the vice president on this show. forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ : expedia introduces add on advantage,
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from capital one.nd i switched to the spark cash card i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. what's in your wallet? . trish: tomorrow night, we have a very special show for you. i am going to be talking exclusively with the vice president of the united states, mike pence. we're going to be talking about the caravan.
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we're going to be talking about the birthright issue. we're going to talk about this crazy media that's labeling him and the president all kinds of things. the midterms, the economy. lots to discuss. i'm looking forward to it. see you right here tomorrow night. >> this battle over birthright citizenship is exploding on the campaign trail. we're less than a week before the mid terms. the question, does it swing the vote to republicans or just divide the republican party when they can least afford to be divided? good evening to you i'm connell mcshane, filling in tonight for kennedy. president trump has suggested this week he could end birthright citizenship and do so with an executive order. legal scholars are skeptical in many cases, most seem to say the 14th amendment guarantees citizenship to anybody who's born here. there are some others who do
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