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entire bush family but we don't honor him by denigrating someone else no need to compare and contrast on this day. just remember -- our 41st president. >> absolutely thank you for your service. that will do that will do it for us right over to you varney. >> good morning to you and good morning everyone. market is closed in honor of a great american. the state funeral for george h.w. bush will be held today. it is a pause for investors after a shocking and tumultuous sellout dropped 729 points better than 3% closed right at 25,000. and even bigger percentage loss for the tech heavy nasdaq it was a dramatic selloff. so what happened? fears of recession, when interest rates dropped sharply but no sign of eminent recession fears of a china trades war after presidential tweet where
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donald trump declared himself a man and he was negotiating and this morning the president is tweet about china again. we will show you that in just a moment. here's in my opinion the the real problem. algorithms, the computers read the words recession, and tariff man, and with a wave of selling that kept going. personally, about editorially, i think humans on wall street should get a grip. all right. the oil market is open today. crude little change, we're at 53 dollars per barrel. the questions here for this market are: will opec will able to cut production as it says it will and russians and saudis agree to cut on friday oil little change in advance that have. price of gas, that's down. for the 56th day in a row, only down half cent, though. 2.44 is your average but missouri still the the cheeps by far with an average price of just $2.02 a gallon. >> wow. well holidays yes they are upon us.
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call this package delivery prime time and in comes trump task force on postal service with three weeks to christmas it recommends higher charges for delivering packages for amazon and others. the president doesn't like the money losing postal service making sweet heart deals with trump hate per jeff bezos. how about that? stand by, this will be a special program we will say farewell to a good man, a truly great american. and look ahead to what happens to your money tomorrow morning. ♪ ♪ >> long line, formed in capitol rotunda tuesday americans file through to pay their respect to president bush some waiting as long as three hours.
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a poignant moment when former senator bob steaded himself out of the wheelchair with help of an aid stood and saluted his friend, one time rival both bush and dull served in world war ii that is a poignant moment. bush family also paying their rpghts last night a clearly emotional jeb bush stood by his father's casket. watch it. a touching moment as president bush 43 and laura approached the casket former first lady. you can see the former first lady holding back tears as she rubs her husband's arm to console him. w will eulogize his father at the funeral later this morning. who's who of athletes their rpghts led by cbs broadcast jim also in attendance, golfer phil mickelson tennis star and former nfl quarterback peyton manning and hall of fame basketball manager russa and president
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trump tweeting about today events moments ago. here it is looking forward to being with the bush family. this is not a funeral. this is a day of celebration for a great man who has led a long and distinguished life. he will be missed. what a day is a natural -- national day of mourning and ash i think you have the it also. >> we know that new york stocks exchange is closed today as is nasdaq all federal offices are closed today most federal work twoers are excused from work except those that are considered vital. the supreme court we understand will delay arguments by a day. at the house canceled all schedule votes for week as the senate, we should point out u.s. postal service closed all post offices around the country and have suspended regular mail delivery some banks we should pingt out and around country some will and won't be many are closeed today. >> okay national day of mourning m >> indeed. i want to switch gears get to your money. first of all look at futures. this is an active market even
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though the stock market is closed today. up about 100 points for dow industrials. by the way, that future's market will active they'll close down at 9:30 this morning. that's the -- when market would have opened it will not open future stock trading right there. president trump trying to rei reassure people about trade truce with china first thing today strong signals sent by china once returned gnome from long trip including stops from argentina not so sound naive or anything but i think president xi meant every word with at a long and historic meeting all subjects discussed. joining us market watchers michelle and jim as we know the dow has come off at 00 point rout yesterday, futures pointing a little higher but michelle, what happened exactly 24 hours from now? thursday morning, what do with say on market? >> i think market is up because i agree with you stuart yesterday was one off, probably
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some fear of an inverted yield curve but overall fundamentals, continue to looked good. and i would be a buyer. >> bounce tomorrow morning you would be a buyer. jim tomorrow morning. agreed. agreed it is very hard to call the market short-term. but it should be a very good christmas holiday season fund mentally. business should be good sales should be good. profits should be good. and that is what ultimately drives strong prices because other worries are valid for 2019 but it is seasonably a good period and ping yeah i agree that yesterday was a one -- >> one of the reasons that market went down yesterday was the interest rate have fallen sharp isly that signaled a recession. do you see a recession anywhere on the horizon? >> no. i don't see recession you are going see a slowdown, but it doesn't get better than it has been. you are going to see slow down with signs of it and bond market is telling you that doesn't mean a recession does not mean negative profits and negative gdp. >> recession on horizon,
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michelle. >> in the next probably five years but people need to cool it with inverted yield curve it was a two year and five year it wasn't two year and tenure and that's more important and even if stuart let's say the inverted yield curve does happen we could have a 20% most of higher before a recession so people need to calm down. >> okay my point was that algorithms these program trades, with i think they kicked in on the words recession and tariff man, and i think they hurt the market. >> they kick in when s&p 500 hits that 200 cay day moving average that is -- those expressions i think the computers read are those expressions. yield curve was definitely something. okay that's the world we live in stew. was it a big factor? >> if you're a long-term investor it wasn't really matter. they -- they grow no different than portfolio insurance was in '87 you remember '87 if you bought you did well and you can
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actually take advantage of this volatility if you're with willing to overcome your emotion and prealz it is computers not fund mental driving stock. >> humans get a grip on wall street about i don't know how you do that but i think get a grip come on. come on. come on. more trump tweets this morning, by the way, on his meeting with china's xi jinping. start with this one. one of the very exciting things to come out of my meeting with president xi of china, is his promise to me to criminalize the sale of deadly fentanyl this could be game changer on what is considered to be the worst with and most dangerous addictive and deadly substance of them all. last year over 77,000 people died from fentanyl if china cracks down on this horrid drug using the death penalty for distributors and pushers, the results will be -- incredible. that from the president this morning. later, bush 43 will eulogize his father bush 41, at today's
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funeral joining us on phone now, karl rove former staff to bush 43. karl qk to the program. this is historic a former president yule eulogizing his father perhaps you know more about it than i do i think it will be a celebration of bush 41's life what say you? >> i suspect so. i talked to president on saturday, and he wrote it personally he deliberately didn't want to get speech riders involved but he wanted to express thoughts of his heart, and it is as you say historic moment. we've only had two presidents who were related father and son. and john quincy adams was president when his father tied. but time and distance being what they were at that time, he did not learn of his father's death until after his father was buried so this is a -- a unique moment in american history. >> james baker very close to the the bush family said that he
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thought that bush 41 was probably the best single term president in american history. what do you say to that? >> well, i agree. of course i'm biased i readily admit but think about it first from foreign policy perspective we have -- remove from power. we have the first gulf war removal of saw hussein and it could have gone badly with gorbachev overthrown and soviet communism and president bush managed that and reunification of germany as a you remember, the british and french were very concerned about the reunification of east and west germany and could have made that more difficult, and again he managed that situation. and then at home, you know, the appointment of a conservative judge to the supreme court and chairns thomas americans with
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disability act market oriented environmental solution that literally almost within matter of months killed the problem of -- of acid rain in northeast, and a whole series of other accomplishments on the domestic front that get overlooked but his reputation as a -- as extremely abled leader for our country, and who served only one term is -- is probably very secure. >> karl i know you're on way to funeral as we speak we thank you very much for taking too many out today to be with us this morning. karl rove thank you. >> you bet. thank you. >> i want to turn to something completely and totally different. new developments in the sexual misconduct case against form cbs chief les moonves finds he misled investigators destroyed evidence, now, moonves 120 million severance package could be in jeopardy. big development for über new
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>> there's a new report that les moonves destroyed evidence and misled investigators looking into his alleged sexual misconduct. all rise judge napolitano is here. why is his 120 million dollar severance package in jeopardy? >> because part of the contract that -- that requires cbs to pay had him 120 million require ares that he cooperate truthfully with any investigation of his behavior. so by saying he was not truth powerful to investigators who
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were outside law firm, the same team that investigated tom brady the new england patriots quarterback for deflate and deflated a ball to travel at a different speed same exact lawyers did that. and by demonstrating to cbs ford that not only did he engage in sexual misconduct but he destroyed evidence and lied to us and violated his contract therefore you don't owe him 120 million he's probably going to sue which will be part of the litigation was he truthful or wasn't he and then decide whether or not they're going to setting it. but this is a substantial cash savings, to cbs, 120 million. >> but if sue then everything comes out in court. all that he's alleged to have done and not done. j which be a substantial deterro his suing you are quite correct all of this would come out lawyers would be witnesses in terms what have he said to them and how he part of it is he lied
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part of it he misled us and sent us on wild goose chase and look for things he knew weren't there. things which if he had done to fbi, outlaw general flynn he would have invaded. >> is it and simple black and white he lied said this and it was not true that was true. ifnlings doubt it is that plain and simple. i know just from buzzing in the legal community he is shopping around for high powered lawyers. he has nothing to lose. anything he gets north of zero, he'll be zero and 120 million he'll pay him to go away. >> oh, that's deal okay but cbs want this litigation does cbs want a former employee of cbs sitting on witness stand in federal court in new york city talking about the hostile environment that formerly great les moonves fosters no of course but that will affect other aspects of cbs.
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so they will want to pay him some money to go away. >> so they'll be a fight -- but before there's a verdict before everything comes out, there will be a settlement you think. >> i do. i think you do as well. and businesspeople would be telling cbs to make that judgment. lawyers qowld say you're right. let this case go away. whafnlg a story. judge thank you very much indeed. >> telling us exactly what's going on. we appreciate it. thank you. president trump defending his decision to full out of the paris climate agreement, he says, american taxpayers should not be paying to clean up other country pollution. we are definitely on that one. burger kig selling whopper for a fenny oh, yes there is a catch. if you want the deal, you'll have to place your order from literally from a mcdonald's. [laughter] love it. >> you like that one? okay. stick around son because we have more on that after this. [laughter] place, the xfinity xfi gateway.
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polluters in the world i want clean air and clean water, and it will be making great strides in improving america environment but american taxpayers and american workers should not be paying the cleanup of a country's pollution. herman cain is with us. herman welcome to the program. look, thanks stuart. >> i think greens in environmentalists have a real problem because they cannot sell their solutions to climate change. they can't handle politics it have because all they're going to do is raise are price of energy and we don't like it if what do you say? >> i agree with you 100%. and liberals they hate it when president trump is right and he has been correct a lot lately. here's complication of what's happening in france. to the united states -- sanctuary cities, what those riots demonstrate is that citizens will eventually reach a breaking point and riot. look what happened in iran are.
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look what happened at the border crisis. even the citizens of tijuana said we are not going to continue to support this intrusion on our space as well as trying to cross the border illegally. so the president was right sanctuary cities take note because your voters and citizens are going to do the same thing when they have had enough of the violence. >>i think president is winning n this one flat out he's winning. >> he is. he's winning on this one. and it should be a warning to sanctuary cities. what part of increase violence don't they get? this is the skier scary part take the caravan are crisis president warned don't come. the border patrol well it's the department of home lapgd security said we're not going to relax our laws. you'll get arrested. or you're going to be pushed back. they would not listen because
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of -- the people behind them they were encouraging them so president is winning on climate change issue, and he's going to win on sanctuary cities issue as well. >> since you used to run god father pizza i'm going to change this subject entirely and talk about this one. burger king, they're selling whoppers for one penny. but you've got to be very close on or in a mcdonald's and order your burger king app or order on your burger king app app will check your location using gps to make sure you're really at a mcdonald's. okay you used to run god father pizza what do you make this have kind of ?oir [laughter] >> i used to be executive with burger king. if the whopper is a whopper of a price proposition, but it is not a whopper of an idea or the consumer, here's why. i believe that a few people will find the one cent whopper intriguing. they may even try a couple of times. but here's the two reasons why i am skeptical that it's going to
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work long-term number one why go to one place in order to make a second stop to get a sandwich. secondly consumers are going to say, i may as well buy me a big mac i don't care about the 99 cent difference okay so you have two it shall telling -- two propositions okay. >> i have to go sorry about this. thanks very much herman in a moment we're going to answer the question what happens on market tomorrow morning. 24 hours from now. we'll be back.
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final look at futures, this is currently active market but it is out 30 9:30 so in conjunction with close today for national day of mourning but those futures poipghted towards 100 point open up -- whenever market reopens as it will tomorrow morning. now let me get backtrack to yesterday, and show you some of the damage first of all the big techs will you look at that? facebook down 2% amazon dropped over 100 dollars a share. apple was town 8. alphabet google down 53 microsoflt came down 3%. and significant loss all across that board. look at chip makers pretty much the same story. their technology companieses and boy did they come down? advance microdevices down 10
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micron 7% and down 7% -- well you're talking percentages you know you're in trouble here's the financials that will be the banks and insurers, they came way down yesterday again, again percentages. morgan morgan stanley goldman city group wells fargo 4, 3, 5% on downside? trade sensitive songs that's the beauings and caterpillars of this world all of them way down. four, six, three, 2% boeing caterpillar and united tech that was a big day. joining us now as of this morning, david james liz mcdonald and ashley webster down 800 point yesterday ep future pointing up 100. what do we do tomorrow morning 24 hours from now. >> you tell me what president will tweet today and i can give you more informed answer. by the way we were down 179 don't need to exaggerate what was a painful day.
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listen, i think that in 24 hour period a lot can happen but in next 24 hour no update on where we are with china trade negotiations will won't be update for chairman powell with what federal reserve is ding and sentiment driven right now, and ting that over the next 24 hours investors kind of find where they want to put their position. i suspect market will probably open about where it shows in futures now. but there's a lot of unserpt and that uncertainty between 24,000 dow and 26,000 dow, that time going anywhere that's to me the arrange we're in. >> at the top of the pral the all gore riffles which in my opinion created a egged on the roller coaster market yesterday. jim i say that fairs a large share of responsible for this sharp drop? what do you say. >> on a short-term and tactical basis it does but you can't
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credit a bare market or bull market what you can do is make stocks go up or down more than they normally would. based on algorithm so in other words if the market is going up, the algorithms push it up further. if it is going down so again as i said in last segment if you can override your emotion, and look at the fund mental it is present ares opportunity. both on buy and sell side so to your question about tomorrow i would suggest that friday is more important than tomorrow because what's been troubling in market is worry about a slowdown and that employment report and the wage report i think will -- will add some clarity at least to the current and recent conditions. maybe not next yore but friday more important than tomorrow. >> friday's job report will raise the issue of a recession. is it on the way? s plus, with we've got price of oil still meandering around 53 a barrel this morning that's a depressed price indeed what do you make this have idea that maybe we will get a recession in the future?
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which took market or helped it come down yesterday. >> listen there's no maybe as to whether or not we get a recession in future we're going to get recession in the future haven't gotten rid of business cycle. not in immediate horizon. and jdp growth is very healthy. jobs report is not irrelevant metric to the eminence of a potential recession the far more important thing to me and i've been saying that on show forever where are we with business investment? q three numbers for fixed investment call it business spending we're so down. it was shocking. they were huge 2-2 were huge highest numbers we've seen since 2008, and all of a sudden it collapsed. i absolutely believe that it is related to trade war here. i think president trump's tweet yesterday was unforgivably stupid but do i think that business investment and industrial production manufacturing all of those good metrics are still full steam ahead but i do i think market needs confirms of that and what we know job number will be good we know unemployment is low. we knowen wages are growing.
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ironically we can start here months ago and people said a good jobs number would be bad for market to make the fed overly tighten and so forth. >> correct. that whole to be good but not too good i'm so tired of it. we have a good economy but markets have to price in what they see in the future. >> it is holiday selling shopping season that's for sure. and got a post office task force organized i believe by truch which is recommending higher charges for delivering packages for amazon by the postal service. but -- they're not going to raise the charge before christmas. >> likely not. this task force is led by steven mnuchin treasury secretary. the president has said amazon has the bargain of the century. he's called amazon saying that amazon uses the postal service like a delivery boy. it's about that last mile into the 150 million homes and businesses that amazon does get a good deal. the post office say it is does make money.
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however, wall street and analysts show it is that basically amazon pays half of what ups or fedex charges per box a package. >> so special deal for amazon a good deal and citi group saying a buck or more per package. that may happen in next year but not happen -- >> 62 billion deficit. >> that's right making money. still with with amazon exactly five years ago, founder jeff bezos told 60 minutes that amazon would have drones capable of delivering packages to customers within four or five years well, the five years is up. what happened? >> well it became very frustrating for amazon to get approval from the government basically through the faa to do the testing they require that got so bad that bezos and amazon went to the u.k. and said look we need some areas to test this out and he said sure come on in they've trying to figure this out in cambridge 60 miles north of london practicing with it. there are problems, public
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safety, data privacy, battery limitations, that bold prediction five years ago didn't factor how difficult it is in reality to have final last mile all important last mile they believe by now qowld see this disguise for drones hasn't been reality there's a reason for it. there are had public safety issue and faa is very, very protective of the air space above us. so it could be a lot longer still before this -- if it ever does, and -- >> all over it when that first one impose in the air. >> you see it first in rule areas with not as much as risk in city it is harder. >> here's a story i want to get to a very important story. even the washington post is coming down hard on google because they propose a censored search engine for china. the headline in today's paper does, don't the evil still apply? google -- question mark. what do you say, david? >> look, i think that the issue
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here is that hypocrisy of the google organization -- the need for u.s. businesses to do business with china presents all sorts of economic and, of course, moral challenge and complexity i'm not critical of google for what they have to do in china. i'm critical of their unbelievably attitude to commerce in the u.s. when they can put it on the side as it pertains to members of china. not business with pentagon so -- you know, here's the google it it shall had been running a censored search engine in 2006. for some time in china, and stopped it why? because chienl was censoring the web searching also watch this. hacking into gmail accounts of local citizens. so it's also china tracking and doing surveillance of its local chinese citizens to link to search records that's a problem that's evil. >> a company that tells us
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always they take the moral high ground. is suddenly behind something that is so, so to what they believe and preach. i can't understand why they're still putting their money in efforts behind this. project dragonfly. they claim that they're actually have nowhere near to launch it i'm not so sure. >>dignitaries arriving at the national cathedral for funeral service of bush 41, which will begin around 11:00 this morning. arriving you will see all of this happening it is that time regrettably i have to say good-bye to our guests here. jim hayward everyone else and david and we appreciate you being with us on a very important day. thank you. >> pleasure. >> our next guest, was close with george h.w. bush bush 41 joining us brad blake man assistant to bush 43 you visited with president bush, and
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mrs. bush last night. tell me about it, please. >> well he invited us to blair house those of us on the federal committee and basically thanked us and told us that 41 would want this to be a day of celebration. he's lived a life that uh-uh few have ever had the opportunity of service. and we should be celebrating a life well lived. he was all about duty, honor, service country, and family and he wanted everybody to be upbelt and remember a life well lived that's what we're going to do. i'm at the capitol now about to receive family and president george h.w. bush will be leaving capitol going to national cathedral going down pennsylvania avenue the same road he went down for his inaugural so this is going to be qoot a movement from the capitol to the national cathedral. >> brad would you tell us please -- a favorite story of bush 41
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because i know you have a very long association with the the bush family. >> yeah, let me give you one that is epitome of who president bush george h.w. bush was. election night, 19 88 he just won president-elect and first thing he does is invite even back to his home, and no matter who you were. and the the staff, and i was a very young staffer at that point, and he tended bar. and he was waiting on even. at his home getting people drink orders making sure he was fed and he just became president and first order of business was to -- be hospitality to people who helped him and that is george h.w. bush. >> just with such extraordinary life a 73-year marriage. a man who signs up for the -- for the navy flyer. on his 18th birthday, shot down in the pacific. rescued on american submarine, he goes on to extraordinary life
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of public service. head of the c are ia, our first diplomat in china, during the time of -- [inaudible conversations] then became president presides over the fall of the wall reunification of germany end of a cold war essentially and first iraq war which he prosecuted successfully. that what's stands out to me brad is man's life. forget the politics for a moment. forget what he did as president. it is the man's life which stands out to me. i think that's what we're going to be celebrating today. >> there's no doubt about it. he lived his life the way he was brought up it all stems from a -- his education, and instilling by his family the need to serve. and george h.w. bush told us many times a life is incomplete without service you can run for office. you can have volunteer at a hosl everybody can do something but everybody is an obligation to give back, and nobody is giving
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back more to this country than president george h.w. bush. >> thank you very much for being with us today and we do appreciate it. >> thank you. yes, sir. >> liz what do you got? >> prince charles will be attending presenting her majesty queen saying president bush was a great friend and ally of the united kingdom he was also a patriot serving country with honor and distinction in office and during second world war, in fact, her majesty the queen visited bushes in 1981 first british monoargues to visit texas. >> there you see karl rove on the phone just a few minute ago. he called us on the phone while he was in his car going to the national cathedral there. we thank him very much for taking time out to be with us. now, the bush family making it or very clear they don't want today to be about bashing president trump come in charles hurt. charles is this a moment when we
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could really bring this country together? there's that opportunity for that today isn't there? >> there certainly is, and you know, there are few things that we as a country do better than moments like this where we celebrate these people that have served the country. you know this morning about 5:00 in the morning. i was coming by the capitol, and it was amazing even at that hour the number of people i saw streaming out of the capitol all walks of life all different kinds of people. they all come to celebrate the life of this -- of this terrific -- of this terrific servant, and i love what the bush family has said not only they said this is not about politics this is not about, you know, bashing trump or anything like that. but it is also a moment of celebration. president bush lived a long fruitful giving life, and you saw just with that wonderful pooting a right there with karl rove kind of -- playing around with the couple of people walking into this
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service. it is a jovial time people are remembering the president for how he lived, not just mourning the fact that he's gone. >> i would have to say, though, charles that media is having none of that. i watched the media over the course of this, and they they ce h.w. bush 41 what kind of man he was, and the current president. president trump and they don't make a favorable comparison. they use this, this is my opinion now. i just think that they are using this, the passing of a great man as a way to beat up on a president they don't like. and i don't like that. >> it is incredible stuart i cannot agree with you more. it is one of the most disappointing things that i've seen over the last couple of days. is that willingness and we see it in other things as well willingness for so many in the media especially people who are
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really bengt out of shape about the current administration about -- president trump, they're willingness to politicize absolutely anything, and we have seen that here. we have seen a lot of demonstrations and the accolades about the rightful accolades about george h.w. bush turned to beat up the current president and my goodness as if they need another vehicle to beat up president trump they beat him up about absolutely everything why it is that they can't just shut up right now, and celebrate this terrific life, celebrate you know sort of stuart to remember some of the wonderful accomplishments of this country in celebrating the life of george h.w. bush why they have top turn it around and turn it into a political thing it just -- it is -- i don't like it. you don't like it. but it is also very bad for the country it is a very corrosive element in the country and --
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it does us no good it does not bring us together. >> charles, as we -- as you're speaking we're watching dignitaries arrive at the national cathedral as you said we saw karl rove moments ago, then we saw former governor of new york state george pataki looking at joe biden talking with other acquaintances and dignitaries before the national cathedral but charles, i know that you worked with bush 41 i believe you know that family rather well. do you have a story for us about bush 41? >> well, you know to me the important you know everyone personal stories i loved hearing them and they are really terrific but i have to say that, the story that to me that was the -- is the most compelling story you can tell is the story of -- of what we saw yesterday where bob dole who was once a long time adversary of george h.w. bush they have heated
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confrontations over the years. but watching him with aid of someone else, stand up, make his body stand up so that he could salute george h.w. bush that right there that story tells so much about bob dole but it tells so much about hw bush as well and that entire generation that so -- willingly sacrifice offer to sacrifice their lives, their comfort, for the protection of this country. and you know, there's no -- there's no personal story that anyone can remember that is more important more sterling than that, and one that we should all be celebrating today because that is what -- that is what unifies this country and that is what -- sort of that's the life blood of this country. and as long as we with remember that, we have more generations to go. >> well said charles, liz. >> bob dole 95-year-old did stand up from wheelchair to
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salute his 94-year-old friend and to charles's point this is why they are called greatest generation. both of them were shot at by enemies and world war ii bob dole took heavy german machine gun wounding his arm and upper back. president george h.w. bush shot out over pacific by the japings japanese two war heros saluting each other. >> al gore arriving right there it is be a parade of dignitaries. >> i'm sure many of you will recognize them as they walk across our screens. everyone and anyone will be there. of important and national life. >> angela merkel of yerm is expected king abdul jordan president prime minister john major as we always and former polish president -- >> i did know know that prince charles was going to be there but you're telling me he is. suspected not going to digress too much but i wongd where protocol is for seating err to british thrown in a -- in a good republican of the
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united states -- i don't mean to digress but come on in please doug weed is former special assistant at george h.w. bush president bush 41 as we call him today if i may ask you this, i perceive a difference in values between the world war ii generation, bush 41, and my generation. the baby boomer generation. i think there's a different attitude on the part of those two generations to honor dignity, and service. what do you say? >> i've been enjoying your conversation stuart and also hearing how media now -- is putting all of this in -- in line with their attack on donald trump. it is different area a different day george h.w. bush was a diplomat donald trump is a businessman. you can like donald trump the fact that he's saving the american middle class and restoring our economy and educational backgrounding hold that international globalist and
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monopolies have held over us and still appreciate gush george h.w. bush for ending you can celebrate and appreciate both but politics is a moving target and it -- it has been bemoaned through history washington thought republican was over because of the part of rise of partisanship we'll get over it. we'll get over it. >> do you have a favorite personal story of bush 41? >> i have so many but i'll tell you one that is kind of funny that struck me this morning. we have wed this beautiful actress come in with her entourage she was in west wing and meeting set up and notes out and she grabbed me she said this is what i'm going to say to the president and she held her notes and hands trembled i was trying to reassure her it is okay so we
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go into oval office and she trips over her high heels and she fall right into the arms of george h.w. bush -- [laughter] and he grabses her and he looks over at me and he -- raise ares his eyebrows groucho she was humiliated he must think i'm an idiot what does he think of me. i was trying to reassure he's a man unlike any other man he was happy to grab you in his arms. [laughter] >> i have to fell you i'm not sure i can think of another american who has lived the kind of life that george h.w. bush lived. what a full life -- 73 years of marriage to his wife. i just find that extraordinary i don't think there's any comparison, any other american alive today or in the past century who can match up to the kind of life that bush 41 lived
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am i going too far here? >> no, and he was a nice man in a brutal business. but make no mistake, he just because he was nice he was very tough. it was a first real negative campaign 1988. it wasn't dog whistles it was willy horton in your face. and he himself told that story to me and we on staff had to say it was better to let other people tell that story not you. but he was nice, i remember margaret thatcher they were a little upset with their american ambassador to america. they thought he was a hot dog getting too much attention. so they started cutting him out. and bush senior himself had been cut out by krising jeer and others when he want representative in china so he felt that so one day ambassador reception he pulled british ambassador aside i was there a fly on wul and this little room the two of them talking, and he piecemeal gave to this
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ambassador some words to empower him to allow him to go back to the british embassy write it up with flowery memos and reestablish his authority in chain of command i thought boy here's somebody who understands pettiness of bureaucracy meanness of superior and inferior he was looking out for this guy and reaching out to help him and impressive to me. >> doug you're a presidential historian. there have been ten one term presidents in american history. which -- i tend to think that bush 4 1 was the best. what do you say? >> i totally agree with you james was great and you know lincoln -- he was reelected but he only seived one term. i think history will say lincoln saved the union. ronald reagan and george h.w. bush saved humanity from nuclear annihilation it was very real. it was very close. teachers in holland were telling their students that it doesn't
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matter what university you go to, because the world won't exist in another ten years. and those nuclear weapons were loose, they could have gone in the wrong hands he was brilliant in how he carefully wound down cold war and didn't let that thing get out of control. >> dock stay there for a moment please charles still with us. charles hurt. i'm looking at this. and i don't feel the sadness but a celebratory mood of a full life well lived. what do you say? >> i think that's exactly right and bush family, bush 43, and laura bush and others in bush family who have been in washington for the past couple of days made that very clear to people that they want this to be a celebration of his life and don't want it to be -- just mourning the fact that he's gone. obviously, everyone does more on
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that. but the fact that he's back with his lifelong love barbara bush and you know, that's a very sweet -- sweet thing to think about right now. and you know, you were talking about earlier, watching seeing walking into the cathedral when you go around you know it is for us to focus on other part of george h.w. bush's life. but when you look at his role and president reagan's role o.c. in fall of the berlin wall, and the transformation that occurring in eastern block countries, in europe, you go around there, there are squares and streets named for george h.w. bush that you know it is kind of hard for us to imagine just how much president bush is revered and remembered over there. for the heroic stance that he and, of course, president reagan
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took in freeing those -- those people and those countries from the evil clutches of the iron curtain. >> doug weed it occurs to me that -- what we're looking at and what we're hearing is an introduction to history for some of the younger members of our audience. charles hurt just mentioned how many youngsters today have any understanding about the man essentially who freed poland from commune pism rawrnl soviet communism with the great help of george h.w. bush. . stuart: it is a history lesson watching this, doug, isn't it? >> it totally is. that was my introduction to herbert walker was lech walesa. i was running people in and out of poland. risking their lives. could have decide. they brought in a speech from lech walesa, from 1984, when
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george h.w. bush was vice president. brought it to a dinner where george h.w. bush was presiding. the speech was red back from lech walesa, back to radio free europe. that was a speech our team smuggled out for george h.w. bush. he was involved from the beginning. i introduced him to a liaison, pope john paul ii, coming in and out of countries in eastern europe, risking life, risking death. people forget that gorbachev had a gulag in perm, was operating. sending people to psychiatric hospitals if they opposed them. it was against the law to play bach music in soviet union because he was a christian. or own a christmas tree. they still supported pol pot who was in retirement. both the chinese and soviet governments supported pol pot.
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hw kept a survivor of the killing fields on his senior staff in the white house to remind him what was going on. it was still very dangerous, stuart. but the cold war ended on that reagan gush watch. stuart: extraordinary watch. how many people under 40 have the history of pol pot. ashley: khmer rouge. stuart: we remember it now, because the man who was president, for those four years was right in the middle of it. by the way, as you're watching people arrive there at the national cathedral. we've seen woody johnson, owner of the jets, also ambassador to the uk. he is there. vice president mike pence is of course is there. so is al gore, you will see him present there. you will see dignitaries whose faces and names you will know
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through the morning, because they're assembling at the national cathedral. alex acosta, labor secretary right behind him. the secretary for homeland security, miss nielsen. they're all going to be there. you will see a parade of them all the time. well america is about to say farewell to an honorable man a truly great american, george h.w. bush, affectionately known as bush 41. what an extraordinary life he led and what great things he accomplished in his presidency. today a state funeral at the national cathedral, complete with all the pomp and circumstance. more than that, his son, bush 43 will deliver the eulogy, perhaps the most poignant farewell we will ever see. you will see it too. any minute you see the departure ceremony at the capitol. the casket will carry down the steps, bush family will follow, the motorcade to the funeral.
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which have with us, liz macdonald, ashley webster, liz peak, presidential historian, doug wead we'll go through the whole process. where do we start, liz? liz: americans kit complaint to honor the american spirit. doris kearns goodwin said it right this is about the shared heritage. americans feel like they belong today, about possibilities lay ahead, lie ahead. her point is well-taken, these moments allow you to feel the history of the country and belonging. stuart: well-said. ashley? ashley: looking forward to the eulogies. bush 43, george h.w. bush's son, will present obviously heart-felt eulogy. we'll hear from jon meachum, the presidential historian biographer who knew bush 41 very well. brian poll -- mulrooney,
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canadian prime minister, very good friends. he spoke at reagan's funeral in 2004. we'll hear from former republican senator from wyoming, alan simpson, who has known the bushes going back to the 60's, very, very tight friend of bush 41. they would go hunting and fishing together. he will have unique perspective. stuart: former senator alan simpson, when he was writing the eulogy, he will deliver today, he cried writing the eulogy so he would not cry in the national cathedral today. liz: we will see if that works. stuart: i met al lan simpson a few times. i'm sure that will work. foxnews.com columnist liz peek is with us. your thoughts at this moment, please. >> i share a tremendous no, nostalgia for a way of life no longer extent. we have a man here of extreme
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modesty. that doesn't play well today. humility a man of class. has nothing to do with money. it has to do with the way he deported himself. there was a time when republicanism was all admired in this country. not showy, not showboating but people, i think the most impressive thing about george herbert walker bush is that he really was committed to serving his country. he didn't do it, i think to to aggrandize himself or build his brand or put anybody else at a disadvantage. i think i felt it was part of his heritage. i thought -- i met him a couple of times and his wife barbara. i just felt like they were just incredibly real, decent people. stuart: forgive me for breaking in like this, but i see a military man there in what we used to call a a buzbee in
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england. make he is canadian. i don't know. i thought that was interesting. motorcade is approaching. this will bring family members, certainly moving people around the capitol as the casket is going to be moved shortly from the rotunda, it will be taken down the steps into a waiting hearst, moving to the national cathedral. you will see this all. liz: you know what you have to look forward to is the music. we will have the u.s. marine orchestra. u.s. coast guard band. they are going to sing songs as follows including, "o god our help in ages past." "lay me low." "nearer my god to thee." the music was wonderful, where people wanted to buy the dvds to hear it again.
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stuart: doug wead is this a different presidential funeral because bush 41 served in the military? >> yes. these funerals are evolving somewhat too. they keep many traditions. stuart, listening to some of the commentary you don't have to bash donald trump. george h.w. bush in his funeral is not bashing donald trump. he has invited him. he healed that breach with clinton. that was not easy to do. i had many conversations with both w and hw about clinton. they were not happy with what had happened to the presidency. all through history, stuart, you will see the media will react to changes in politics. william henry harrison was vulgar because he used music. they didn't like that. they didn't like presidential candidates when they left the front porch to campaign. and herbert walker actually introduced the first campaign in 1988 that went negative from the very beginning. they never had seen that before.
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that was lee atwater's approach. to say twitter, using tweet, counterpunching is somehow different or bad. no, presidential politics is evolving, george h.w. bush to be elected in this day would probably have to do whatever brutal things are necessary to get power in this day, just as they did back in 1988. my opinion. stuart: charles hurt, we said a lot this morning about this being a celebration. i believe it is. but i have to tell you, charles, i have a lump in my throat. i think he was such a great man. this is such a remarkable occasion, and it is a great privilege to be here commentating on it, watching it unfold. you same as me, charles. >> yes indeed, it really is. alan simpson may have wept while writing his remarks. i guarranty you when he gets up there and speaks, whatever he
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has to say it will be uproarly hilarious, knowing alan simpson and george h.w. bush. the historical perspective of president h.w. bush, and i think it's a probably the most important thing to remember about the guy is, and his entire family, they respected the office and they respected voters and they respected the will of people. we can have all kinds of political discussions, debates about different things, but at the end of the day they respected this treasure that our founders bequeathed to us and they trusted it to be the best way to govern people and for that we should be eternally grateful to president bush. stuart: our viewers are seeing on the left-hand side of the screen the honor guard forming at the steps of the capitol, waiting for the casket to be taken out of the rotunda, down the steps, into the waiting
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hearst. that is the honor guard, left-hand side of your screen. right-hand side, you see dig -- dignitaries arriving in a long, long motorcade. you've been seeing this a long time. the service begins at 11:00. they have to get everybody in there in good time. that is what you're going to be seeing. there are crowds lining the street. when the casket was moved, i think it was yesterday or late the night before, i distinct -- as it moved down the street you heard cheers. you don't expect to hear cheers -- >> a lot of people showed up. they turned out to see him which i thought, we haven't really seen a lot of this president in recent years. he did a lot of charitable fund-raising but it raises another issue i think we don't talk enough about. he was a really likeable man. not only likeable the way he dealt with his family and his wife. they had a wonderful relationship but imagine jumping out of an airplane when you turn
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90. everyone in the country was like, wow, that is so cool. stuart: he did that several times. >> when he was 80, and 75. that is a pretty remarkable thing. he had indomitable spirit, love of life, all that kind of thing. people really developed such an affection for i am as you're talking about, stuart. stuart: doug wead, was he funny, crack a joke, make you laugh? >> he was so funny. sometimes flying back to washington, d.c., on the plane he would invite me up to have dinner with he and barbara and he was relaxed, finally going home for the night and he would tell stories and he wanted to hear stories about the staff, he would laugh so hard, stuart, tears would literally come down his cheeks he would be crying so hard from laughter. he was very funny. i remember once we worked very hard to get the endorsement of this big shot prima donna.
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we flew in and met him, sent notes and letters, finally this big shot blasted george h.w. bush in the newspapers, and turned against him. i got this little handwritten note from george h.w. bush, i guess we'll put i am in the undecided column. [laughter]. so, he was so unpretentious. i remember one meal in the roosevelt room, formal, 10 people there, all dressed up to the nines, they're bringing in the food and when they bring in the soup bowl, the president took his soup bowl without a spoon, lifted it to his lips, drank it out of soup bowl. people in television and public life, they're looking at each other, my god, one by one they picked up their soup bowls. so i said, mom, wherever you are, forgive me. i did the same thing. stuart: doug, i am told that president bush 41 had length to
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do that, drink his soup directly from the bowl, during his years in china. he was first diplomat to go back into china. when mao tse-tung was still leading the country, he was the first back and learned to drink his soup from the bowl. we're looking now at all the dignitaries -- ashley: paul ryan. stuart: much of the cabinet, much of senate leadership, senator schumer right there. nancy pelosi right there. we just saw mitch mcconnell. ashley: paul ryan. stuart: all the way down the line. speaker ryan at the head of that column as well. elaine chao, who is the wife of mitch mcconnell by the way. liz: we talked earlier about prince charles representing her majesty the queen. the queen sent a note saying prince philip and i remember the days in texas visiting the bushes in 1991 with fondness. my thoughts and prayers are with the family. signed it, elisabeth r.
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speaking of george h.w. bush's bushes sense of humor, president bush comply minted the queen on her long walks saying she has left the secret service out of breath and panting. the queen laughed at that one. stuart: good stuff. good stuff. doug, we enjoyed the two humorous items that you related for us. ashley: yes. stuart: give me another one. [laughter]. >> well, i'll tell you what is a surprise to me, when he would always call me on the phone, he would say, wait a second, doug, don't say anymore. let me get to a secure phone. this happened all the time, whether he was calling from air force one. air force one isn't secure? but he was always saying that. he was former director of the cia. so i thought it was kind funny when hillary clinton elected president, she made a big deal out of fact that she felt the former director of the cia and previous president had bugged the residence.
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so they brought in the fbi to do a sweep. brought them back a second time, when she said she was sure they missed. they brought in the cia. finally set up her own white house security personnel department, hired two campaign staffers and they swept looking for bugs. all of that came back to mind when donald trump was elected president and he said, i think somebody's list, has bugged me or on my campaign. and everybody said, oh, you're paranoid, you're nuts. well, i don't know. hw was worried about it. so was hillary. maybe donald trump has cause to be alarmed. stuart: there will be some humor and you have heard some humor this morning and i think that's because we are celebrating a great life. he was a good man. he was funny. he was humorous and i really enjoy hearing these great
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stories. ashley: it is tremendous. he was very self-efacing. one great qualities of all, humility. i think that is very endearing. >> agree. i love the story they came to tell him i won the election, first presidential election first thing he did was help clear the dinner dishes. that is a real guy, right? that is story every wife in america thinks wow, i want to be married to that man. pretty amazing. stuart: on the left-hand side of your screen, you see the honor guard there, on steps from the capitol building. moments from now the casket is taken out of the rotunda building, down the steps into the waiting hearst on the left-hand side there. what you're see something cavalcade of cars and small buses which bring guests to the national cathedral. which will escort people from the rotunda into the national cathedral. the funeral service begins at
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11:00. so there is very limited tile there to get everyone into the cathedral in their right places. we've already seen prince charles. we did see him momentarily there. he is inside of the cathedral now. former president carter, he is inside. he is there too. al gore, vice president pence, woody johnson, america's ambassador to great britain. the owner of the jets, well, he is there. ivanka, jared kushner, they are there. everybody, everybody is there for this funeral celebration. ashley: and from around the world. queen of jordan. the list goes on. polish president. stuart: charles, your thoughts, please? >> talking about those wonderful stories about h.w. bush's sense of humor and his humility i'm reminded of everyone remembers what a, what an avid fisherman the president was. he loved to fish, any kind of fishing that he could do. there was one story told by an
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outdoor writer who had agreed to take the president, when he was president, to take him out fishing on the potomac river i think. anyway, showed up at the white house, 4:30 in the morning to go collect his important client, to take him fishing and one way or another, wound up getting into the private quarters of the white house and wound up in the bedroom with president and mrs. bush. in all of his fishing gear. the hilarity charm, with which the president handled it, put everybody at ease. it was certainly for that, for that fishing guide it was, that was a fishing trip not to forget. stuart: the motorcycles which you just saw on your screen are leading the convoy which is family members going to the national cathedral.
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and shortly we're going to see the departure of president trump and first lady melania trump from the white house. they too will make their way to the national cathedral. you're seeing a parade of dignitaries and family members pulling up to from the capitol building to the national cathedral. that is what you're seeing. now on the left-hand side of your screen, that is the honor guard. the casket will be taken down those steps. i think they're running a little behind schedule. these things go moment to moment. ashley: they do. >> rigorously timed. i think they're running just a little late. it is 10:17 eastern time. at 10:15 they were supposed to have had the bush family concluding their participation in the ceremony and proceeding to their vehicles. i think we're a little behind schedule. not entirely sure of that. but these things are going to proceed. it is both a solemn and joyous
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celebration of a man's life and a man's passing, the 43rd president of -- 41st president. sorry. ashley: the last presidential funeral, stu, was gerald ford at the national cathedral in 2007. ronald reagan before that in 2004. you have to go back to 1969 with dwight eisenhower. stuart: all the way back there? ashley: yes. stuart: hillary vaughn i think is standing outside the national cathedral. what are you seeing right now, hillary? who is on the way? reporter: stuart, behind me is the cathedral, what i'm looking at right now the street in front of the cathedral, there are people lined up to ready the welcome the motorcade. we seen a bus of house members make their way inside. president -- vice president pence is inside. 3,000 people are supposed to taken the ceremony lasting hour 1/2. prince charles, queen and king
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of jordan arrive as well. many other people inside, senator jeff flake. so things are filling up inside but what's interesting is outside you have a lot of people wanting to just see the motorcade as it arrives here and pay their respects really from afar, stuart. stuart: the family, by the way, has arrived. they're waiting to be escorted to their seats inside of the national cathedral. we saw jeb bush a moment ago. right now we're looking inside the cathedral. there is former president carter. ashley: with angela merkel. stuart: talking to angela merkel right. there they're assembling. greeting each other. these are all friend. these are political people, leaders, who go back a quarter century, a half century, renewing acquaintances. liz: covering it last night live on camera when the bushes arrived, it was wonderful to see the elegant presence of first lady laura bush, holding her
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husband's arms, both in tears. george h.w. bush has profound loaf for the first lady, for president bush. stuart: former first lady, neil bush and other members of the family, waiting at the bottom of the steps on capitol hill, waiting for the casket to be moved from the rotunda where it is lying in state. lest we forget, the casket lay in state all day yesterday. tens of thousands of people, i don't have a count, i don't have a formal count but must have been -- ashley: wait at one point was three hours. stuart: right. the wait was three hours. ashley: give you an idea. stuart: the line stretched, all snaked around outside, block after block, people waiting to pay their respects. i saw some interviews with some of the people who are waiting. one man had come in from hawaii. >> wow. stuart: i wanted to pay his respects to his former commander-in-chief. i saw people from california who had served in desert storm.
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they wanted to come and pay their respects to their former commander-in-chief. the casket is now coming out of the rotunda building. and it will be taken down the steps. this is going to be a formal ceremony. we're about to see the casket emerge from the rotunda building. then it makes its way to the hearst. very ceremonial occasion here. i hesitate to use the expression, pom and circumstance -- ashley: but it is. >> celebration, a very formal and very moving ceremony. i thought the whole thing with the cortege yesterday was moving but as we talked about who's there and so forth, talked about him a kind man, a modest man, a war president too and very effective one. stuart: we'll step back as the casket emerges to be taken down the steps. we'll step back and let everyone see and hear what is going on in
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stuart: the hearse bearing bush 41 on its way to the national cathedral. members of the bush family are in their motorcade following it to the national cathedral. one thing that struck me, liz peek, as the casket was coming down the steps, the look, the expression on bush 43's face. it looked like he was trying to restrain his emotions. >> and laura, his wife, for sure. i think it is worth remembering -- stuart: let me listen in to this
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[background noises] stuart: the motorcade is on its way to the national cathedral. you're looking at the sights, hearing the sounds of a presidential funeral, 2018, united states of america. bush 41. we were talking moments ago about the emotion on bush 43's face. liz, he was trying to restrain the emotion from flooding out there. >> yeah, i thought the whole family looked stricken. by the way, laura bush, also george bush's wife, also looked very emotional.
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but i think it is worth remembering it was only in april that barbara bush died. this is a family that was very close and, everyone in the family has always said that barbara and george, sr., were so unbelievably linked to the family. everyone was close to them. they were the heart, the beating heart of this, quite large family and so i think this is sort of twice in, twice in six, seven months they have had to go through this, pretty tough. ashley: there was interesting image, i don't know if you saw there, as they head to the national cathedral, bush smiling and waving to the people lined the route. getting back to the theme this is celebration. >> acknowledging popularity of his father. what could be nicer to that. stuart: i want to go to hillary vaughn outside of the national cathedral. hillary, i a believe president trump is arriving shortly? reporter: he already arrived at the cathedral, stuart, president
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up interest, first lady melania, making their way inside as we await the motorcade caring are former president bush's family. what i can see from my vantage point, people lining the block waiting to pay their respects afar. when the motorcade makes its way here, we'll see the extended family, family staff make their way directly to their seats. president bush's children and their spouses will be escorted by major general michael howard to their seats. as that happens, the pallbearers get lined up in the west front entrance. that is what you're seeing right behind me. that is when the casket is going to make its way inside. first we will hear "hail to the chief" played again, something really marked every movement as president h.w. bush has made his way from place to place. as it makes its way inside they will also play the hymn, "for all the saints."
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that is the same hymn plays when we see casket carried out of this cathedral at end of the service here today. so expecting the motorcade to arrive here, we greet them, people, probably hundreds, what i can see here lining the streets, hoping to pay their respects as it arrives here, stuart. stuart: hillary, right outside of the cathedral here. ash? ashley: as we look at pictures of dignitaries there is gentleman, mike lovejoy, the bush's handyman, helped them keep their home in kennebunkport, maine. he tells great stories he went shopping for a television because the president didn't know what wong to get. liz: i love that. stuart: doug wead, still with us, please. looking at choreography, all the people moving around to
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washington, d.c., perfect order. how do they coordinate all of this? how do they do it? >> i don't know. i remember in the white house they would have choreographed with the stepping stones. they can't have that for everybody. when you watch on tv, heads of state greet each other, they come out and look down. they're moving on to the steps that have been laid by the rest of us who plan where they should step. they don't know where to stand. they have to look down. it is mysteriously operating now. would i say this, stu, i was with george h.w. bush once when he wept. he could get miss at this-eyed and -- misty eyed and emotional. i was with him in the oval office when he got word his mother was turning seriously ill. he broke like a little child, heaving sobs. felt the deep emotion. he loved his mother who was very
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religious. she was evangelical episcopalian. she read c.s. lewis. i came into the bush family, wanting to know about the various groups and denominations how to reach out to them politically. i would write memos. he would write back notes. what they believed, what they say about this i soon became apparent he was on a spiritual journey. it wasn't just politics. he was seeking to find out, does goodness mean something beyond itself? is there a purpose for goodness and for life? that has been an ongoing search. now he knows the answer to that. stuart: yes, he does. hillary vaughn, come in please. if you can hear me, i believe you can see the honor guard arriving at the cathedral? reporter: yeah, stuart, the honor guard arriving behind my shouldering getting ready to get in place to receive the motorcade.
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they will play "hail to the chief" and several "ruffles and flourishes" as they get ready to bring the casket out of the hearse, bring it inside of the cathedral. remarkable and stunning picture to see they're making their way here. there is at least probably 25 or 30 of them lining up, getting ready to receive former president bush. stuart: charles hurt, we've been watching the funeral procession move from the rotunda, from the capitol building to the national cathedral. charles, i see loads of people, several deep, lining the, the road there. >> yeah it's a, that is the route, the beginning of the route that a newly inaugurated president would take after the inaugural ceremony at the capitol to go down to the white house, down pennsylvania avenue.
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stuart: let's listen in now. >> order, march. center face. ready, front.
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stuart: what you're going to see is a great deal of ceremony, pomp and circumstance. you're going to see america's military on full and wonderful display. the casket will arrive outside the national cathedral. it will be taken inside. the family members will be taken to, escorted to their seats in the cathedral and at 11:00, about, 13, 14 minutes from now, the ceremony, the service, will begin. we're going to wait and watch the arrival of the hearse and the casket and we will see the ceremony as they arrive.
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it's a solemn moment, but as we've been saying all morning this is the celebration of the life of a great man a truly great american and that's what we've been dressing -- stressing all morning. doug wead, i think america does this pomp and circumstance really very well indeed. >> it's beautiful and we're one of the few countries in the world, stu, england being another one, that celebrates our leaders. it is so odd to visit russia and statues are still up of stalin and lenin in different places though most of the stalin ones are removed. so many countries don't have heroes. we immortalize our presidents. we want heroes. we put them in marble. we forget their mistakes, polish over it very quickly. abraham lincoln whose quaint little stories were openly ridiculed when he was alive became just fables, soon as he
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died. he was immortalized as at his deathbed they said, he is with the ages now and that's what we do and that tells more about americans maybe than it does the president. stuart: indeed it does. the president, mr. trump, first lady, melania, walking down the central aisle of the national cathedral, about to take their places as the service will begin about, 10, 15 minutes from now. a great deal solve solemnity as our president walks down that aisle to take his place. ♪
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>> with baked in jesus christ, we received the body of our brother, george, for burial. let us pray with confidence to god, the giver of life that he will raise them on turn into perfection in the company of saints. deliver your servant, george, sovereign christ firm all evil and set him free from every bond that he may rest with all your sane in the eternal habitations, wherewith the father and the holy spirit, you live and reign one god for ever and ever, amen. >> let us pray also for all who mourn, that they may cast their care on god and no the consolation of his love. almighty god, look with pity
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upon the sarah for your servants with whom we pray appeared remember them, gracious god, and mercy. nourish them with patients. convert them with a sense of your goodness with your countenance upon them and give them peace through jesus christ our lord. amen. [background noise]
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faith shall not die forever. as for me, i know that my redeemer lives and he will stand upon the earth. after my awakening, he will raise me up and did my body i shall see god. i myself shall see and my eyes behold him. who is my friend and not a stranger none of us live a two of themselves do not become his own master when he dies. for if we have life, we are alive in the lord. and if we die, we die in the lord. so then whether we live or die, we are the lord's possession. happy from now on are those who die in the lord. so says the spirit for they rest
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in the fellowship of your sane, through jesus christ our lord who lives and reigns with you and the holy spirit, one god now and forever. amen. >> are reading from the prophet
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isaiah. arise, shine for your light has come and the glory of the lord has risen upon you. for darkness shall cover the earth in the thick darkness the people. the lord will arise upon you and his glory will appear over you. nations shall come to your light in kings to the brightness of your dawn. lift up your eyes and look around. they all gathered together. they can't see you. your son shall come from faraway and daughters shall be carried on their nurse's arms. then you shall see and be radiant. your heart shall thrill and rejoice because the abundance of the seed shall be brought to you in the wealth of the nations shall come see you.
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violence shall no more be heard in your land. devastation our distraction within your borders. you shall call your salvation in your case prey. the son shall no longer be your light by day, nor shall the moon gives light to you by night. but the lord will be your everlasting light and your god will be your glory. your son shall no more go down for your moon withdraw itself for the lord will be your everlasting light in your days of mourning shall be ended. the word of the lord. >> thanks be to god.
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begun. shortly after dawn on saturday, september 2nd, 1944, lieutenant junior grade herbert walker bush joined by two crewmates took off from the uss sam percentile to attack the radio tower and chichi jamia. as they approached the target, the air was heavy with black. the plane was hit, smoke filled the cockpit, flames raced across the wings. my god, lieutenant bush thought, this thing is in the go down. yet he kept the plane and its 3035-degree die, dropped its bombs and then roared off out to see, telling his crewmates to hit the silk. following protocol, lieutenant bush turned the plane so they could bail out. only then did bush parachute from the it.
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the win propelled them back word and a gash to his head on the tail of the plane essay flew through the sky. he plunged deep into the ocean, bob to the surface and flopped onto a tiny raft. his head bleeding, his eyes burning, his mouth and throat raw from salt water. the future 41st president of the united states was alone. sensing that his men had not made it, he was overcome. he felt the weight of responsibility at the merely physical burden and he wept. then at four minutes shy of new, a submarine emerge to rescue the downed pilot. george herbert walker bush was
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safe. the story, his story and ours would go on by god's grace. through the ensuing decades, president bush would frequently ask nearly daily, and he would ask himself, why me? why was i spared? and in a sense, the rest of his life was a perennial after to prove himself worthy of his salvation on that distant morning. to him, his life was no longer his own. there were always more missions to undertake, more lights detach and more love to give. and what a headlong race he made
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of it all. he never slowed down. on the primary campaign trail in new hampshire once, he grabbed the hand of a department store mannequin asking for votes. when he realized his mistake, he said never know, got asked. you can hear the voice, can't you? as dana carvey said, the key to a bush 41 impersonation is mr. rogers trying to be john wayne. [laughter] george herbert walker bush was americanized last great soldier statesman, a 20th century founding father. he governed with virtues that most closely resemble those of washington and of atoms, of tr
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and fdr, truman and eisenhower, a man who believed in causes larger than themselves. 6'2", dominate, a master of what franklin roosevelt called the science of human relationships, he believed that through much is given, much is expected and because life gave him so much, he gave back again and again and again. he stood in the breach in the cold war against totalitarianism. he stood in the breach in washington against unthinking partisanship. he stood in the breach against tierney and discrimination and on his watch, a wall fell in
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berlin.ors across america open o those with disabilities. and in his personal life, he stood in the breach against heartbreak and heard, always offering an outstretched hand, and a warm word, a sympathetic tear. if you are down, he would rush to lift you up. and if you were soaring, and he would rush to savor your success. strong and gracious, comforting and charming, loving and loyal, he was our shield endangers our.
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and of course there was ambition, too. loads of that. to serve, he had to succeed. to preside, he had to prevail. politics he once admitted isn't a pure undertaking. not if you want to win, it is not. an imperfect man he left us a more perfect union. it must be said that for a keenly intelligent statesman of stirring almost unparalleled private eloquence, public speaking was not exactly his strong suit. fluency in english president bush once remarked is something that i'm often not accuse stuff. [laughter] looking ahead to the 88 election, he observed inarguably
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it's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or the other. [laughter] and late in his presidency, he allowed that we're enjoying sluggish times, but were not enjoying them very much. [laughter] his talk may have run a backup moment, but his heart was steadfast. his last code as he said was tell the truth. don't blame people. be strong. do your best. try hard. forgive, stay the course. and that was and is the most american of creed. abraham lincoln's better angels of our nature and george h.w. bush's thousand points of life
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our companion verse is in america's national him on trends hymn. for lincoln and bush both called on us to choose the right over the convenient. to hope rather than to fear and to heed not our worst impulses, but our best instincts. in this work, he had the most wonderful of allies in barbara pearce bush, his wife is 73 years. he called her barb, the silver fox and when the situation warrants it, the enforcer. he was the only boy she ever kissed. her children, mrs. bush likes to say, always wanted to throw up when they heard that. in a letter to barbara during the war, and young george h.w. bush had written i love you precious with all my heart and
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to know that you love me means my life. how lucky our children will be to have a mother like you. and as they will tell you, they surely were. as vice president bush once visited a children's leukemia ward in kraków. 35 years before, he and barber had lost a daughter, robin, to the disease. a small boy wanted to greet the american vice president learning that the child was sick with the cancer that it's taken robin, which began to cry. to his diary later that day, the vice president said this. my eyes flooded with tears and behind me was a bank of television cameras and i
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thought, i can't turn around. i can't dissolve because of personal tragedies in the face of the nurses to give of themselves every day. so i stood there looking at this little guy, tears running down my cheek, hoping he wouldn't see, but if he did, hoping he would feel that i loved him. that was the real george h.w. bush. a loving man with a big, vibrant, all enveloping heart. and so we ask as we commend his soul to god and as he did, why him? why was he spared? the workings of providence are mysterious, but this much is
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clear. the george herbert walker bush who survived the fiery fall into the waters of the pacific three quarters of a century ago made our lives and the lives of nations freer, and that her, warmer and nobler. that was his mission. that was his heartbeat. and if we listen closely enough, we can hear that part be even now for it is the heart beat of a lie in, a lion that not only let us, but who loved us. that is why him. that is why he was spared.
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>> are reading from revelation of st. john. then i thought a new have been and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. in the sea was no more. and i saw the holy city, the new jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. and i heard a loud voice from the throne saying ca, the home of god is among mortals. he will dwell with them. they will be his people. and god himself will be with them. he will wipe every tear from
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their eyes. death will be no more. mourning and crying in pain will be no more. for the first pain had passed away. and then he said to me, it is done. i am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. to the thirsty, i will give water, as a gift from the spring from the water of life. those who conquer one hair of these things then i will be their god and they will be my children. in the city have no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of god is its light and the lamp is the lamb. the nations will walk by it light and the kings of the earth
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will bring their glory into it. if gates will never be shut by day and there will never be no night there. the word of the lord. [background noise]
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>> do you remember where you were this summer you left your teenagers behind in turn 20? well, i was working as a laborer in my hometown in northern québec, trying to make enough money to get back into law school. it was a tough job, but i was safe and secure it had the added and if it was my mother's home cooking every night. on september 2nd, 1944 as we have just heard so eloquently from john, 20-year-old lieutenant george bush was preparing to attack japanese war installations in the pacific. he was part of a courageous generation of young americans who led the charge against overwhelming in the historic a bloody battle for the in the
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pacific against the colossal military might in japan. that's what george bush did this summer he turned 20. many different talents and skills have served and many more will do so as the decades unfold, bringing new strength and glory to these united states of america in 50 or 100 years from now as historians review the context of all who have served as president, i believe it will be said that in the life of this country, the united states, which is in my judgment, the greatest democratic republic that god has ever placed on the face of this earth. i believe it will be sad that no occupant of the oval office was more courageous, more principled
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and more honorable than george herbert walker bush. george bush was a man of high accomplishment. he also had a delightful sense of humor and was a lot of fun. at his first nato meeting in brussels as the new american president, he sat opposite of me actually bad day. george is taking copious notes as the heads of government folk. we were all limited in time. but you know, it is very flattering to have the president of the united states take notes as you speak. even someone as modest as me. [laughter] throw in a few more adjectives here and there to extend the pleasure of the experience. after president pizza hut, prime
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minister thatcher had spoken, it was the turn of the prime minister, who as president bush continued to write, went on and on and on and on. and only when the secretary-general of nato had a coffee break, george put down his pen, walked over to me and said brian, i just learned the fundamental principle of international affairs. i said what is that, george? he said the smaller the country, the longer the speech. [laughter] in the second year of the bush presidency, responding to implacable prussians from the reagan and bush administrations, the soviet union imported.
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this was in my judgment the most epochal event, political event of the 20th century. an ominous situation that could have become extremely menacing to world security, was instead deftly challenged by the leadership of president bush against the broad and powerful currents of freedom, providing the russian people with the opportunity to build an embryonic democracy in a country that had been ruled by vars and tyrants for over a thousand years. and then, in as the berlin wall collapsed soon thereafter and calls for freedom cascaded across central and eastern europe, leaving dictators and dogma in the trashcan of history, no challenge, no challenges him greater importance for western solidarity than the unification of germany within minutes were the nato.
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put all fears in western europe and unrelenting hostility by the military establishment in the soviet union and the warsaw pact rendered this initiative among the most complex and sensitive ever undertaken. one serious misstep in this entire process could have been compromised perhaps irretrievably. there's obviously no more knowledgeable are confident judge that really have been at this most vital juncture of the 20th century than chancellor kohl of germany. in the parliamentary commission, the chancellor said categorically that this historic initiative of german reunification could never, ever has proceeded without the
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leadership of president bush. much has been written, simply put the coalition of 29 disparate nations assembled under the age is at the united nations, including for the first time, many influential arab countries and led by the united states the most spectacular and successful international initiatives ever undertaken in modern has three, designed to punish an aggressor, and defend the cause of freedom and in short order in a region that has seen too much of the opposite for far too long. this was president bush's initiative from beginning to end. president bush was also responsible for the north american free trade agreement, recently modernized and improved by new administrations, which created the largest and richest free trade area in the history
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of the world while also signing into law the americans with disabilities act, which transformed the lives of millions and millions of americans forever. president bush's decision to go forward with strong environmental legislation, including the clean air act, that resulted in the acid rain accord with canada is a splendid gift to future generations of americans and canadians to savor in the air they breathe and the water they drink in the forest today enjoy and the lakes, rivers and streams they cherish. there is a word for this. it is called leadership. leadership. and let me tell you, that when george bush was president of the united states of america, every single head of government in the
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world knew that they were dealing with a gentleman, a genuine leader, one who was distinguished, resolute and brave. i don't keep a diary, but occasionally i write private notes after important personal or professional event. one occurred at walker's point in fort main on september 2nd, 2001. neil and i had been spending our traditional labor day weekend with george and barbara. towards the end, he and i had a long private conversation. my notes captured the moment. i told george how i thought his mood had shifted over the last eight years from a series of frustrations, moments of despondency in 1993, to the high
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enthusiasm i felt at the houston launch of the presidential library. george w.'s election as governor in november of that year, to the light following jeb's election in 1998, followed by their great pride and pleasure with george w. bush into the perhaps most importantly to the serenity we found today in both barbara and george. they are truly at peace with themselves. joyous in what they and the children have achieved. gratified by the goodness of that god has bestowed upon them all. and again -- genuinely content with the thrill and promise of each passing day. and at that, george, who has tears in his eyes aspoke said,
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you know, brian, you got us pegged just right. and roller coaster of emotions we've experienced since 1992. come with me. he led me down the porch at walker's point to the side of the house that fronts the ocean, and pointed to a small simple plaque had been unobtrusively installed some days earlier. it read, "cavu." george said, brian, this stands for ceiling and visibility unlimited. when i was a terrified 18 to 19-year-old pilot in the pacific those, those were the words we hoped to hear before takeoff. it meant perfect flying. and that's the way i feel about our life today, cavu, everything
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is perfect. barbara and i could not have asked for better lives. we are truly happy. and truly at peace. as i looked over the waters of walker's point on that golden september afternoon in may i was reminded of the line simple and true that speak to the real nature of george bush and his love of his wonderful family and precious surroundings, there are wooden chips, there are sailing ships, and there are ships that sail the sea but the best ships are friendships and may they always be.

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