is shipping everything because of online shopping. come on. david: they lost $68 billion the past 10 years. that's "bulls and bears." thanks for joining us. president trump: we need border security. we all agree we need border security. >> we have a disagreement about the wall. president trump: the wall is part of border security. >> we are coming in good faith to keep the government open. >> experts say you can do border security without a wall. president trump: i'm proud to shut down the government for border security. the people of this country don't want people with lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. liz: the dow turned south after a knock down-brag out with chuck

schumer and nancy pelosi. the president says he's willing to shut down the government if he doesn't get funding for the border wall. new data. illegal immigration across the southern border hitting the highest level in a decade. gallup estimating 158 million people from around the world want to come to the united states. that's equal to the entire population of russia. and in some central american countries, nearly half the population want to leave with u.s. the goal. and to the media meltdown over the mueller probe. it has fox news alert's chris matthews going off the rails trying to compare president trump to hitler. we have new data coming in.

it's no wonder so many people including privately many democrats say they are glad here here in the u.s. living the american dream. we'll have a brexit update and more. money, politics. we are going to bring you the debate behind tomorrow's headlines. "the evening edit" starts right now. let's get the white house are president trump had the knock down fight with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. edward lawrence is in d.c. with the latest. reporter: i'm at the u.s. capitol and they are still talking about what happened at the white house. the president shocked everyone* shocked house minority leaders

nancy pelosi and chuck schumer when he asked the cameras to stay in for part of the negotiations. he lectured the two of them on the border wall saying he would shut down the government if he doesn't get the money to fund that wall. >> we have a proposal democrats and republicans will support to do a c.r. that will not shut down the government and we urge you to take it. president trump: if it's not good border security i won't take it. reporter: nancy pelosi and chuck schumer asked him to take that meeting private and he would not. nancy pelosi released a statement saying they left him in a god place after the meeting. the white house saying they are very far apart in disagreement over the border security. the looming deadline is december 21 and that is not going to move. some other stories we are

following. the cfo from huawei has been granted bail. $7 million cash and $10 million in equity. this is canadian dollars. she was granted bail going forward in an extradition hearing back to the united states. that's the next step in the process. she'll be allowed to stay in vancouver at her house. the trump administration is asking the supreme court for an injunction to overturn the ban that the 9th circuit court put on his new rules saying anybody coming into this country illegally will not qualify for asylum. liz: we have a heavy news hour. thank you so much. we have news crossing that china is offering to cut tariffs on u.s. automobiles to 15% down from 40%.

the dow is ricocheting around on all of that news. the dow did end in the red. let's get to pennsylvania congressman keith rothman. a pretty heated meeting at the white house. schumer said to president trump elections have consequences. the president fired back, that's why the country is doing so well. you saw what happened, right? >> i did. liz: who won that fight? >> the old saying goes it's simple until you make it complicated. you saw schumer and nancy pelosi making it complicated. we need to secure our borderer full stop. we have a heroin fentanyl crisis coming across the border. the cartels are out of control in mexico. it's good to see the president making a stand for border security. the administrations of both parties and congress has not

done what it should to secure the border. we have to know who is coming into the country. the cartels have wreaked hah vook on the border. liz: the point the president is trying to make, pelosi apparently cannot afford to have a government shutdown over this because she does not have the votes to be house speaker. what was your take on chuck schumer saying trump is bragging about you a successful the wall is. when other people who watched it said they seem to be downplaying the problems at the border when the bordered patrol is saying we captured 3,000 illegals in one day last week. >> we need to increase the

resources on the border. you are not going to have a 2,000-mile wall. there are parts that are open where we need a barrier. and we have to increase the capacity at our ports of entry to inspect every single vehicle that's come in. that's where they are hiding the drugs. the cartels actually smuggle people into this country and they get a fee for that. this is an issue both countries have to be attacking address ideally. the president of mexico has started to make moves to go after the cartels. but again these cartels have gone on for too long with impunity. liz: we are watching the headlines crossing that schumer and pelosi looked weak. they were saying we don't want to have a debate in front of the camera, but they ran outside to talk to the cameras. >> it's a debate that should be

in front of the cameras and in every living room in the country. countries are different with different laws and different mores. you can know that there are going to be differences between the two countries. this country stands for freedom and fundamental rights that other countries don't have. you have 158 million people want to come to this country. we have a wonderful place here. liz: we also have poverty and homelessness inside our borders as well which we need to fix. >> which is why you have to control immigration. you need to know who is coming in. liz: canada and australia controls it and israel has a border wall that works. 12 years ago cluck schumer and other democrats including barack

obama and hillary clinton wanted it. the defense department says it's not ready to build the wall. chuck schumer said one can do border security without. >> wall, a wall does not solve the problem. that's chuck schumer. >> well, again. you need parts of that border secured with a barrier. there was a law back in 2006, the secure fence act. never fully completed. this issue has been out there for over a decade. the failure stop secure the border has wreaked happen rock. the. the president is right to want stop secure the border. liz: 158 million people gallup estimates from around the world wants to come to america.

one in seven around the world want to leave their countries to get a better job. the u.s. is the top goal there. ment in central american countries half the population wants to leave and come here. great to see you guys. what's your reaction to what happened with trump and schumer and pelosi. it was called the schumer sthuptdown next year. now schumer is saying it will be your shutdown, trump. >> i think it events over the thanksgiving' weekend where hundreds of migrants bum returned the border proved the bored is not secure. thanks to the secure fence act of 2006 we have a system of walls. this is an unchecked crisis that leaves millions of americans less than secure. so why not fund the wall. worn talking about 600th of 1%

of the budget. >> donald trump continues to throw a temper tantrum like's a toddler. liz: wendy, i well couple on the show and i want the hear your insights. but what ford is trying to bring up is the severe problems at the border. are there issues at border the president is trying to fix. >> no. you can fix the same issue' and have border security. you don't need a wall. those are the facts. the facts are you do not need $5 billion to build a wall when you can use 1.6 billion to build border security that includes fencing. the president is not trying to fix anything. instead he's trying to throw red meat to his base.

>> walls do work. there are 77 border walls around the world. many of them popped up after 9/11. illegal immigration costs this country $700 billion annually. we have seen it in yuma and el paso. the democrats don't want a physical barrier on the border. liz: the numbers coming out with the border patrol and people down there think we need. the democrats think it's much less than that. that we don't need that amount of money. do you believe that we do need a border wall? do you believe the border security guys who say the wall disaster back us up when we can't be there physically. >> you can secure the border by increasing fencing. these images you guys are trying to purport to the american

people -- that's what ford said. that's not happening every single day. but you can secure fencing. everybody wants americans to be safe. there is nobody on this earth who wants america to have violent crime. liz: ford, when you talk to victims' families, they say repeatedly democrats treat our losses like a rounding error. if one person is killed by an illegal it's wrong. if fentanyl comes across the border and kills an american it's wrong. the polls show people think the democrats are downplaying the anguish they are feeling from having a problematic border. >> we also had a 90% increase in illegal border crossing in the last two months and 370% increase in family units. the reason they are coming here

is because the border is open and they know they can get jobs and take advantage of our welfare system. liz: in france, a gunman has shot four near a christmas market. he's known to authorities. let's get to the dow closing lower after swinging 500 points on the down side. the gas prices are at the lowest pump price of the year. google, the ceo getting hammered today on tap hill. congressmen not believing his answers over user privacy problems. anti-conservative bias. and the search engine google is

building for china so it can spy on its citizens. let's take to you london where the e.u. is in full no-deal mode on theresa may and brexit. it looks like theresa may's deal is dead on arrival. the england is set to leave the e.u. next fall. we are going to bring you the updates next.

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liz: the brexit crisis getting worse. the e.u. rejecting fell theresa may's deal. france, president emmanuel macron promising worker tax breaks only after riots broke out. he's demanding companies pay out bonuses. let's get to ashley in london with the latest on brexit and

the deal with the e.u., ashley. reporter: theresa may has been doing a frantic round of diplomacy meeting with european leaders hoping to get some sort of concession for her brexit deal. but so far the word we received is the e.u. refuses to budge. reports suggest that a conservative party committee has received enough letters of no confidence from other members of the party to trigger a no confidence vote. if mrs. may loses that vote, she'll have to resign. meaning a new party leader will have to be agreed upon and the fate of brexit remains have much up in the air. liz: thousands of french students protesting. let's bring in an expert from

the heritage foundation. great to see you. the economy is doing great in the u.s. what's your take on what's going on in france. it's sinking below the u.k., ireland and switzerland. >> there is gloom in the u.k. but that story will end well. france will not end well. what people are advocating for is more of a government that doesn't work. what they need is veal economic freedom and sometime laterring the economy from real growth and jobs. that's not what macron will give them. liz: there is hyper regulation. france and germany set the tone for the e.u. but now what sparked this, james, the higher gas taxes, we have canada talking about a carbon tax. do gas taxes or carbon taxes

stop global warming? >> there is no evidence for that. the problem is what the people of france are arguing, everybody wants lower taxes, but they want the french system that propped them up for years which gives them something for nothing and it hamstrings productivity. the great savior of europe will probably be donald trump. we are not abandoning europe from a security perspective. we are keeping the transatlantic communities together. but trump will beat these guys and force them to become economically competitive. they will have to deregulate like the united states. the person they hate the most of is the one who offers them the best promise going forward. saying i'll cut your taxes and give you a bonus, that's not

going to give you jobs. liz: the way they run their economy is a failed socialist model. but james don't we have a danger here? our bureaucratic state is growing. congress is not doing its job. it's letting the agencies do it. the bureaucrats are making the rules and we don't know what they are doing. >> i work in a non-partisan think tank. but if you look at what this administration and this president has done. they tried to cut through all the problems you just mentioned in two ways. this government is forcing deregulation. we used to do a report at heritage called red tape rising. we don't write that report anymore because each we are we are not getting more leg laces,

we are getting less -- more regulations, we are getting less. america is going to be safe from the kind of problems you just mentioned. europe will look back across the atlantic and say we want what they want. they are not going to want to move here like the people from guatemala. they will want europe to be more like america. liz: 158 people from around the world want to come here, james. >> that's because we have been doing all the right things our economy. they are talking about slowing growth next year. we might drop to 2.9%. five years ago if you said america would grow at 2.9%, people would laugh you out of the room. we are going to drag the europeans into the future because the people will demand

that of their government. liz: james, you have been terrific. thank you so much, sir. five missing marines now dequlaired dead less than a week a u.s. military aircraft crashed off the coast of japan. we are sending our prayers to their familiar police these difficult times. delta airlines out with a new policy on emotional support animals brought on board its planes. starting december 18, they will not be allowed to bring their emotional support animals on flights for more than 8 hours. you cannot bring on animals less than 4 months old. delta reported a near doubling of problems the last two years with emotional support animals including things like biting other passengers. queen's mega hit song, bohemian

rams difficult is the mos -- bon rhapsody is the most of streamed song in history. the push is on to get trump impeached. but going to the extreme. chris matthews trying to compare trump to hitler. this after matthews compared trump and mitch mcconnell to saddam hussein. sundar pichai under fire for a laundry list of offenses on the hot seat today on capitol hill. we have one of the judiciary committee members who was inside the hearing room. he'll give you a look inside that room sat what happened. that's next. stay here.

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>> does google through this phone know i have moved here and moved over to the left? it's either yes or no. as a pro own end of internet openness will google commit to non-discrimination against its rivals and other products. >> why did google pair for rides to the polls for latinos in key states. liz: house leadership not happy with ceo of google sundar pichai. let's bring in a person who was inside the room, republican representative doug collins. what did you think of sundar

pichai? >> he puts on a good fronts for his company. but the problem is, perception is reality. the problem is, nobody accepts the fact there is not some sort of bias or algorithm that puts out different results that nobody can seem to point to how it got to where it is. the other issue that came out today in the sense of the perceived bias and the issues of what happens on the search. it's the privacy information, how much they actually collect. one person took their google footprint it was 5 gigabytes of what they store. and they keep that forever. it added to the questions on how do they self-regulate. how do they police. how they operate. i think these are questions that

now we need to proceed further on. liz: google is tracking your location via your device. separate from that let's turn to anti-conservative bias tore anti-administration bias. google workers talked about altering the search' functional gore rhythm. they didn't like it, the google workers. so it can happen. >> with as many employees in the input section, i think they have a problem keeping a handle on all the stories coming out. they are an american success story. the question though now is for someone who controls over 90% of the searches generated on the internet, on the first page of the search, 95% never get to the second page of the search.

when you look at they control the ad software, they will look at the people who pay for ad and they put them first in search. i don't think anybody who think they don't have a bias if they have a ranging. they say they don't own the content. these are honest questions we have to asked a we need to look forward into. >> did you believe sundar pichai? >> i believe he's telling the story as it currently exists. i talked to him in office mading before and we had this discussion. any time you have an algorithm, and i don't care how much you put in to say we are going to balance. an algorithm at a certain point

reflects those who make the algorithm. one of my colleagues on the democraticside, there was a search for the worried yot and it came up with the president's picture. you can't tell me there are not some inputs. liz: you search the worried yot on google, the implication is when you click on that word and click on the images function only pictures of donald trump come up. >> it comes back with how many hits. that's not a satisfactory answer. most of people get their content from the internet social media. there has to be a check and balance system. liz: the check and balance could be lawsuits. we have to change that. congressman doug collins, come back soon.

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liz: the media going full throttle on president trump. msnbc hosting a guest who said trump committed the crime of a century, and chris matthews with a long history of low-blow attacks on president trump and anybody on the right went after

trump big time. president trump claimed the sentencing reports of paul manafort and michael cohen cleared him. >> donald trump never took winston churchill's advice to study history. the man in the white house is behaving like a character on that old tell special show "co-lumbo." it's like the germans believe we never can quote or never mention said poland invaded germany. that's why world war ii started. remember that? liz: he was talking about hitler there. chris matthews has compared trump to saddam hussein and

mitch mcconnell to saddam hussein. is that how you make a point? >> you can make any assumptions you want and come to a conclusion. but drawing an analogy between donald trump and hitler is not necessary at this time at all. liz: ford, let's get to the allegations that trump facilitated campaign violations. that he directed an illegal payment. all done to help the campaign avoid losing voters. it smells fishy. but there are lots of holes to the democrats. whether you believe trump or not, it's about reasonable doubt. trump can say i used my own money. i was worried about my marriage. >> if after 18 months and tens

of millions of dollars special counsel mueller and his cronies can only device campaign contributions. after the access hollywood tape do you think these possible hush payments influenced voters? voters knew donald trump had skeletons in his closet and they didn't care because he was running against hillary clinton. liz: even campaign finance laws say yes a candidate can contribute to his own campaign. campaigns don't have to report a candidates' purely private expenses. would voters have voted differently if they knew about the hush money payments. >> just knowing all the facts layered before you before you cast your vote. that's important for democrats

and republicans. we want to know everything that comes with them because this is a test in character. you are the president of the united states of america. and we want to know the type of character you bring to the office. when ford trie tries to brush tt off and say we heard the access hollywood tape, he still cheated on his wife and it's still a problem. >> do you think this rises to the stature of high crimes and - and misdemeanors. bill clinton taught me that and he cheated on his wife. liz: james comey is saying impeachment is not a good idea. roll the tape. >> i hope donald trump is not removed from office by impeachment because it will let the country off the hook and it would drive into the fabric of our nation a third of the people

believing there was a coups. we need a moment of inflection where we get off the couch and say that's not who we are, and in landslide rid ourselves of this attack on our values, and through a legitimate process. i worry we would be letting ourselves off the look than we wouldn't have the moment of clarity we need in this country. liz: that's james comey. ford, remember when democrat representative jackie speer said congress paid out money to silence sexual assault victims. where is the outrage over that? >> there is no outrage because it didn't involve donald trump. we tried a case like this with

john edward and it went up in flames. the democrats have nothing. the media is convinced trump is guilty and they don't care what he did. liz: you didn't mean to call the southern district of new york toties. >> they seem to be doing mueller's bidding. liz: that's not the view of fox. we'll be right there. ♪ voice-command navigation with waze wifi wireless charging 104 cubic feet of cargo room and seating for 8. now that's a sleigh. ford expedition. built for the holidays. and for a limited time, get zero percent financing

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liz: my next guest is going to make the case that trump's border wall does make economic sense. let's bring in the former governor of new york state, getsy maci could. -- betsy mccaughey. >> allowing so many migrants flood into the united states means american taxpayers who have so many people to take care of already will have to provide the clothing, the food, the medical care and housing for all these needy people. we already have a high poverty rate in the united states.

one out of 8 americans are living in poverty. look at the people homeless on the street. they need our help. liz: we are a humanitarian country. off course we are, but charity begins at home. liz: we have a higher poverty rate than canada. >> an illegal immigrant is eligible for totally free obamacare. egg paid for including co-pays and deductibles. who is paying for that? american taxpayers who can't even afford insurance, they are going without it themselves because the premiums are so high. i talked to a young couple who said we have understand for our baby but we can't afford it for ourselves. liz: 673% of household headed by a newcomer up grant received

medicaid, housing assistance, food stamps, and in some cases all three of those. liz: you quoted milton freedman about this. >> he warned us 20 years ago. you can have open borders or you can have generous welfare. but you can't have both. europe learned this, too. who is building a wall? britain is building a war on the coast of france to prevent people from coming in through the tunnel into great britain. hungary and spain are building walls. they realized walls aren't immoral, they are vital. we are one of the most of humanitarian and one of the most of generous. i hear americans say every day. let's take care of the people who are here first. >> that loophole that the

bordered control continues to say illegal immigrants are using to game a very weak system and get into the united states by circumventing the law. we'll be right back on that. stay there.

>> he said he would intervene in the case if it was serving as a security and trade talks with china. president trump said the release of the wildlife cfo could be part of the broader trade deal with china. he will stay on that story. florida has been watching for this time that illegal immigrants on a massive loophole to get into that united states and works like this. they pay smugglers thousands of dollars to bring them to the border and the smugglers coach them on what to say to be given asylum. then once they get into the process they disappear into the shadows while awaiting a hearing before a judge. it can take months to take place. estimates show one out of five migrants or asylum-seekers qualify and only one out of ten show up. vice president of the national border patrol council joins us now. great to see you, sir. is this true? is this is what is happening? >> one 100% true.

been happening for quite some time but old catch and release and i will tell you what it comes down to. we need more attorneys and lawyers down there at the border and start enforcing our laws and frankly we need government congress to do their job. >> is it happening this way? migrant will come in and say i'm suffering from political persecution and they go to the border patrol whoever they make the case to and that person will say the case is weak but take it to a judge. the migrant knows they will not get a hearing until months down the road and then they are released into the united states. is that what is happening? >> best way to describe it. however they go to the asylum officer and asylum officer appoints them to a judge and that's when they never show up. that's been going on for quite some time. >> how long does it take to see a judge. >> i cannot tell you at this point. everything is backed up and it could take months, sometimes close to a year and the reality

is there's other immigration cases that are looking at and even those are being put in the back burner because of the funneling of some of these false asylum claims. i say falls asylum claims because of you not bothering to show up to your court case you pretty much know your case is weak in addition, we are seeing individuals enter the country legally. it keeps adding and adding. >> have you ever heard nancy pelosi or chuck schumer or any democrat talk about this massive loophole? >> no. i heard the word they say earlier today and they were attacking the president and the wall. nancy pelosi and schumer can come down here and help us patrol the border and i'll show them how difficult and dangerous it is. >> border control council vice president, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. we love to have you back soon.

>> thank you for having me. >> and thank you for having us in your homes and thank you for watching. lou dobbs is next right here on the foxbusiness network. have a good evening. then you for watching. lou: our top story president trump meets with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. it took no time for the leaders of the radical dems to insult the president in the oval office and again make clear they have no intention of securing the border, no matter the welfare of the nation. >> you have the white house and you have the summit and you have the house of representatives. you have - you should pass it. >> we do not have the vote, nancy. >> but no, in the house. president trump: excuse me, but ian