committee. he says there is no plan at this point to take a censored search engine to china. former i.c.e. director tim homan among our guests. trish: showdown in the oval office as president trump meets with top democratic lawmakers to get the border wall. they may just have enough votes to pass the $5 billion wall. the ceo of going until the hot seat amid concerns of anti-gop bias at his company. he insists he leads without political bias. don't forget it was his team caught on video totally

distraught when hillary clinton lost to donald trump. congressman matt gaetz is here in just a moment. brand-new exclusive tonight. roger stone associates and conservative journalist jerome corsi says the feds are watching his every move. hear what he just told me happened to his family just hours after his exclusive interview with me right here last night. trish regan "trish regan primetime" begins right now. breaking tonight. the border wall battle heating up with an oval office showdown. president trump and vice president pence inviting top democrats including speaker pelosi and leader schumer in an open-door debate over a potential showdown if wall funding isn't secured. the president repeatedly telling

a roomful of press that a southern border wall is non-negotiable. the democrats not so happy about the president putting it out in the open. the democrats don't seem to want any transparency when it comes to these things. i want you to see this. president trump: i would like not to see a government closing, shutdown. but the what else a very important thing to us. >> we should not have a shutdown. i don't think we should have a debate in front of the press. >> you want to shut down the government, i don't. >> we came here in good faith and we are entering into this kind of discussion in the public view. president trump: it's called transparency, nancy. trish: here with me fox news contributor deneen borelli and

scott goldman. why shouldn't there be this kind of transparency. >> it's not transparency on the issue. i think the democrats are trying to save the president from himself and they came in for a private meeting. this is what the democrats got out of him. he had no problem shoulding the government down in the middle of the holidays. and that he would own it. trish: has any presidency been willing to own that? it kind of rests on the heels of whoever is the executive in charge. deneen, i didn't have a problem with him saying that. did you? >> i'm glad this was televised so we can really see what happened today. but this was supposed to be a meeting about border security, and i'm not surprised that nancy and chuck found a way to make the meeting about nancy and chuck. clearly the democrats don't want

to support president trump in anything he does. if he is successful with his agenda for the border, this would be a win for the president. the democrats absolutely despise president trump. so they don't want to give him any victories, especially on this. trish: does she have a good point here? they don't want him to succeed as far as the wall goes? >> they don't want top waste $5 billion on a wall that won't work. the drugs are coming through ports. they are not coming through illegal immigrants. when you say they are spreading diseases, even his own state department says that's not the case. the state department said very few fifth the bill of terrorist. we have military, we have border patrol, we have fare gas. trish: and it's not working. they are still coming here.

you are working that hard to prevent them from coming here which thee receiptically we are, then we have a problem. scott, what is the democrat prescription for how we need to solve our immigration crisis? >> we are all for border security, we are just not for bordered wall. part of that's boishedder security they are willing to give the president and the republicans $1.3 to $1.5 billion for security that seems to be working right now. trish: it' not working right now. that's even on full display. we need a whole lot more than what currently is being allocated forward border security. if we have any intention of making this thing work. >> you are right. and president trump mention sod numbers today on how the walls that are in place currently are preventing people from crossing our borders. and you have got to look at the

facted the department of homeland security reported i think it was last week, december 5, that there were over 3,000 illegals caught trying to enter our country illegally. so clearly the president -- trish: it's clear to me they actually exposed themselves in a meaningful way. a lot more transparency. >> i think the president exposed himself, too. trish: joining me with reaction, matt gaetz. congressman, good to see you. so we are now getting word that the republicans, the house republicans are perhaps getting quite close to putting a $5 billion wall bill on the floor as a show support for the president. i'm assuming you would support that, fan so, how close are we to seeing it. >> house republican leadership

is always willing to support the president when it looks like we won't get it over the finish line. here we have a dmeajt senate. we should have fought for this earlier in the congress before we losted the majority. if we had been as strident about bordered security and wall funding, but right now we are hearing the death rattle of the republican control of the congress and we are right to focus on it, but it's something we should have been focused on in the last two years. trish: given you didn't focus on it and the house is tip together dems. will you be able to get anything done? >> maybe not on immigration, but issues like trade and can business reform. when it comes to immigration i don't think democrats want it too much. trish: i don't think can business reform is necessarily high on most of voters.

>> did you say cannabis reform and high? trish: no pun intented. thank you for twhabt representative gaetz. let me ask you have about mueller. i have been through the documents and read every single bit of these sentencing memorandums, and what i do not see is anything that points to collusion. i see you have got them on some technicalities and you said this when you apparently meant that. but i don't in timing. i don't see anything that indicates somehow donald trump and his campaign were working collectively together with the russians to steal the election from hillary clinton. >> adam schiff promised us evidence of collusion many months ago. it hasn't come to bear. if you even look at jim comey's testimony earlier this week, he confessed when he was fired, there was no evidence donald trump or anyone associated with

his campaign had broken any laws related to collaboration or collusion tore criminal activity with russia. that squares with what lisa page told us 10 months into the investigation there will be was no there there in was no indication of wrongdoing. now you have got people like manafort and potentially roger stone facing process crimes, and maybe not crimes they would have to account for if it weren't for this. trish: i'm going to share with you what he told me and it's frightening. by has spoken at lefnlts about the feds knocking on his door and the intimidation tactics. let me turn from russia to another big issue. the ceo of google was grilled by lawmakers including you if they have bias against conservatives

on its platform. >> do you believe google is bias. it's yes or no. >> no, not in our approach. >> there is a discussion of suppressing conservative speech. why isn't that something you would launch an internal investigation. >> checks and balances, we have a process and we'll do that. >> for you to come in here and say there is no political bias in google tells us you either are being dishonest, i don't want to say that, or you don't have a clue how politically biased google is. trish: you are all right. when you look at that tape, and we have shown the viewers. you see them basically crying after the election and the executives are very, very upset. it's clear that they have their bias and they don't want to admit it. or they are just flat out lying

to the american people and lying to their employees. are you satisfied with the answers you got from the ceo? >> tim not. google claims to have not found bias, but they also claim to not have looked for it. they have a chat room for their employees. one is called resist so members of the google team can talk about the ways in which they will use their job to undo election results they don't agree with. i don't want washington running my life and i sure don't want silicon valley running my life. if they are able to exclude voices. it could have an impact on a country divide 50-50 along political lines. framing the debate on the travel ban.

let's see some consequences. trish: i hear you. let me turn to another topic. that's huawei and this executive, the cfo that was arrested by the canadian authorities at our request. the president was going into his negotiation meetings with xi jinping, and he's there with his whole team, and we heard from peter navarro that somehow the president had no idea. no one going in he said to that meeting that night, not mnuchin, not navarro, not kudlow. he claims not even bolton though bolton said something different that he previously knew by the. why wouldn't the doj tell the president if he's walk into that dinner, by the way, as you sit down to eat and break bread, we are arresting this woman.

the president said he's willing to reconsider all this as part of the negotiations. so that kind of tells me once again he had no idea what was going on. >> president trump understands leverage. but to be able to utilize that leverage on behalf of the american economy and the american worker he has to be armed with all the information. you correctly highlighted how the administration didn't serve the president well. when he has all the tools he's able to reform nafta so it works more for the american people. he's able to get us out of bad deals like the paris accord. with a new attorney general we'll need to clear a lot of people out. i don't believe in co-ings denses in this town. but we have a new attorney general. let's clean house at the department of justice. let's get people who aren't inside the beltway to make

decisions. trish: sounds like a good deal to me. congressman gaetz, thank you for joining me tonight. jerome corsi hearing from the feds hours after his exclusive interview with me right here on set last night. i will tell you what he said happened to his family this morning and why he still says he's going to keep fighting this thing. critics seem to be looking for ways to slam the president. but there is one thing you can't find criticism in, that's his continuous effort to put forward transparency. why his unconventional way of running the country and giving the media and voters more access than any president before him is changing the landscape of the presidency, i would argue, for the better. the latest from mr. corsi next. i switched to liberty mutual

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fire from robert mueller's team. he says his family is not being harassed by our federal government. according to dr. corsi, the feds paid a visit to his stepson this morning. dr. corsi says and i quote, from my conversation with him, they are trying to intimidate me. they are trying to harass me. they have nothing and they are fishing. this visit to his stepson comes just hours after dr. corsi appeared right here on this program exclusively last night to discuss a $350 million complaint against robert mueller and the fed. dr. corsi said they have violated his rights as an american and he believes they may have been doing this for some time. watch. >> i am sure my phone records, my phone is being listened to tonight. my computer is being listened to tonight. this program is being rinsed to

tonight. the prosecutors are still out there. if i make a tiny mistake in memory or statement they intend to pounce on me viciously and put me in prison. trish: dr. corsi tells me the feds knocked on his stepson's door to ask if the stepson ever deleted his emails. dr. corsi says he turned over his emails and computer and anything else of interest. doug, you heard dr. corsi on the program last night. you were a federal prosecutor for nine years. is this how they roll? >> unfortunately i'm here to say some stuff that's a dark secret out of school. but this stuff goes on. that extra harassment. we whre jit matily went there

because we had a question about the emails so that's why we did it. trish: hours after he was on the show. >> he predicted it on the show. i have seen this type of harassment many, many times. trish: now his stepson, he says now they are going after my family. they are trying to make his life as miserable as possible. they want him to say i wed with wikileaks and julian assange to release those podesta emails. he says it's not true. one of the things he referenced on the program and on the phone was he had what was called a time machine which apple has. i'm not a tech guru. i'll fully admit, he said this is a product that apple makes that saves everything. so there is even if you deleted a bunch of stuff he says it would have been effectively

saved in this device. he says i turned that over to them. >> what happened is i have been in many, many, many meetings with the meetings where they become hostile and sarcastic because they are not hearing what helps them with whatever goal her looking for. multiply that times 10 in this case because they are so fixated. when they don't get what they are looking for they become angry and toxic. the good news for dr. corsi is they can get sarcastic all day long, do you think we'll believe that. but when the dust settles they may very well be unable to charge him with any crime. trish: he had to amended his testimony but they allow him to do it. >> in one case a law enforcement person twoarnt grand jury. i was surprised, he lied. his lawyer called me, doug, he wants to come back in and change

it which he did and said i wasn't truthful, here it is. that took away any claim of perjury. so to your point about amending it from a legal standpoint that will help him avoid being charged. trish: he feels like he was thrown into something. he said it's like a nightmare. >> it's like a hornets' nest. in the enron case they were whilely overaggressive. 85,000 jobs were destroyed. and the appeals court said no crime had been committed. andrew wiseman was on that enron case and he's on his case. corsi is bringing to bear some very interesting and important issues which is, hey, don't dismiss this guy like he did in

the media web's a conspiracy theorist. forget him. he's expressing some of the dark secrets of what goes on. trish: he says he never even had a parking ticket. he's telling us what happened each moment along the way. he has a book outgoing through all of tonight real-time. it's a warning for all of us. >> if nothing happens and he's not charged with anything, it's still bad. but as the co-guest said last night. he said this is insane, this is a disgrace. but this type of bullying. the defense is playing an important role. hthe point is --

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i remember about a year ago when he first invited cameras in to watch what was supposed to be a closed door meeting, and it was fascinating. it was so interesting. no president had done that before. president obama did it once, he allowed cameras in for a discussion on healthcare. but it wasn't quite the same baits was planned and the lawmakers knew it was going to happen ahead of time. i for one want to know what's going on behind closed doors. and it's refreshing that someone is willing to open those doors up. joining me right now with his thoughts, presidential historian doug wead. doug, i'm a journalist so i want to know. i want transparency. you are a historian and i assume you want the same. but a lot of people washington don't like it one bit.

>> they are not used to it. just think, we went through the vietnam war. love him or hate him, lbj lied to a whole generation of people and richard nixon. riots on the streets, tanks in the treats over a war that was a lie. here we have a president who is transparent. he opens up the files on the kennedy assassination. everything is on the table. i think it's very healthy. trish: let me share with you what nancy pelosi said about this as she walked out of the meeting. this is after the transparent openness of those discussions. here she is. >> i hear some of the reporters saying well, fox reporters saying why did we not want transparency in this discussion. we didn't want to contradict the

president when he was putting forth figures that had no basis in fact. if we are going to proceed in this we need evidence based factual truthful information about what works and what doesn't. i didn't want to in front of those people say you don't know what you are talking about. trish: come on. but she is happy to say it when she is not going to be challenged. you heard the dig at fox. somehow it's fox's faulty as far as nancy pelosi is concerned. but doug, if she has issues with some of these facts and figures, why not tell him to his face? she'll say it when he's not there in the room to the rest of the world as she just did. >> because she is not rehearsed. you saw him rattling off all those facts about the wall and the numbers, very impressive. i worked for two presidents.

we scripted everything. we rehearsed it completely. we never ad-libbed or took the chance. we recently had the funeral of president bush and some brought up the dan rather interview. we rehearsed him for three hours. i got to tell you something funny. one day one of the networks had a typical day at the white house and they went all over with our cameras and we prepared our staff. we said all of a sudden the lights will go out and they will lower the camera and they will act like they are no longer running, but they will still be running the tape and they will ask you a question. and when they do that, here is what you should say. so we were rehearsed and ready for what they had. trish: that's the world today. i used to work for that network that dan rather used to be

managing editor at. everything there was scripted. right up to the second. if you got a 10-second tag in a package you better not go 11 seconds. you had to time it down to the second. look at how i'm talking to you right now. the freedom of television news today. that's kind of responsive in this presidency where there is some reaction that is spontaneous. >> it's very healthy. during the campaign, hillary got criticism because she she went 270 days without a press conference. even the "new york times" was running a count. it's a high-wire act. he's taking quite a risk. i'm sure his attorneys would rather he not be so transparent.

trish: i think americans deep down, we all kind of like it. straight ahead, the white house has a plan to get the postal service out of debt. i don't think you are going to like it. it includes selling your address and access to your mailbox. and the department in one midwest college is calling for i.c.e. to be abolished. this department says even the police force should be gone. this is nuts. we have that story coming up. [ telephone rings ] [ client ] - hey maya.

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will be certainly the largest trade deal ever made which is a very important thing, what's good for national security i would intervene if i thought it was necessary. this is as very big deal, don't forget his doj department kind of threw him under the bus on this one. the president said he had no idea -- he hadn't said that, his team said that. peter navarro said the president had no idea, he said he had no idea. mnuchin had no idea, larry kudlow had no idea. john bolton told npr he had an idea, the president didn't. we don't know what to believe. but the president is not psyched about this. who wants to go into negotiations with xi jinping while simultaneously they are arresting one of his top people, the cfo of huawei.

joining me, andy puzdew. there were concerned about intellectual property theft. but i found it suspicious no one bothers to tell the president of the united states when he's having a negotiation with the chinese. by the way, we are arresting this woman. >> somebody should have informed the president going into this meeting that the cfo was going to be arrested in canada. trish: you don't believe it's a coincidence? they arrested her the same night, the same day as the dinner. >> what i do like .it is the way trump has turned this into an

arrow in his quiver in the negotiations with china. remember barack obama said you are going to do these great trade deals, how are you going to do that. what magic wand do you have? >> he is using tariffs. he'll use this negotiation, the charges against the cfo to get a better trade deal. he'll use everybody he has. trish: if that's the case, then good. >> maybe not intended to help him. trish: let me ask you about another story tonight. i think anybody who is concerned about privacy has concerns about. if you thought you were getting enough you junk mail. just wait. the u.s. postal service may soon start selling access to your address it's part of an effort to stem the billions of dollars

np of dhet oe tsstim n't agreed on something. >> they tell it some fedex and ups. fedex and purks s know my address. you haven't seen the boxes from the things my wife orders that show up on our front porch. trish: they can accept it to clients? >> they can use it. rather than leaving smaller boxes that people steal, i prefer they put them in the mailbox. but more importantly the post office lost $3.9 billion last year. this could make up for that. they could charge a fee for access. it's not that they are giving everybody access.

trish: you don't want every tom, dick and harry having your address. >> i can find out more about you online and i can from your mailbox. >> i get that technology put it there. but don't you kind of yearn for the days of anonymity and don't you ever worry your information is too out there in the marriott tonight. there is more layers and details coming out? we all have things to be concerned about. >> if you are going on facebook and twitter and joining one of these webs. if you don't want to give them your information, don't give it to them. all they are going to do is let ups use the mailbox to deliver -- they are already delivering to your address. ups has your address.

they are already delivering stuff to you. trish: you said this economy is going gangbusters and you credit the president of the united states and his policies for the success we are seeing. can it continue? >> it can continue. yesterday they came out with the new job openings report. for the last two months of the obama administration we added 1,000 a month. in the trump administration, we are adding 78,000 jobs a month. this is slashing regulation, encouraging domestic oil production. businesses are optimistic. they are hiring people. we have had 3.1 percentage point gains in wages two months in a row. people are making more, they are taking home more of what they

make. there are more job openings that need to be filled. people will be spending more money. trish: all the naysayers out there saying there could be a recession on the horizon. you say what? >> there will not and recession next year. none of the numbers indicate that. the last six quarters we averaged 3% gdp growth it's just not going to happen. >> i tend to run scared on these things. i see the recession like way before it actually happens and i don't see anything. but i don't see anything that's going to put us in a bad spot right now anyway. >> when we do have it it won't be like 2008. trish: good to see you. one illinois state university, a

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trish: the department at one illinois college is advocating for the abolishment of i.c.e. and the police. i.c.e. and the police. apparently they don't want any kind of authority. they appreciate anarchy. this is the university of illinois champagne which shared its 9-point platform where it calls for the abolishment of i.c.e., borders, and the judicial system. emma, are they just look for attention or do they actually believe that? >> well, this is something that would be crazy if it were coming

from a random person on the street. you hear someone mention it walking by on the sidewalk. this is even crazier because it's coming from a public university taxed by taxpayers to educate college students it's insane and absurd and it's falling into this pattern on college campuses with students being taught resisting the executive branch and resisting the rule of law and calling for the aboicialment of the jew -- the abolishment of the judicial system as a whole. >> it's one of those things i'm trying to understand, i can tell you as a democrat, if you look at the constitution we have a whole article. when it comes to the police force and ice, we examine and

try to understand where we are coming from. >> that seems beyond the scope of normal'. >> they get paid lots of money and they get tenure to spout nonsense. and somehow they graduate. if they are lucky enough to get a job as a barista at starbucks and coming out with ideas that make no sense at all. >> right, this college, urbanna-champagne. we just reported this semester, they were offering in their school of journalism a class called trumpaganda. the point of the class was to

paint our president as a liar who spreads untruths. this has become a pattern on the college campus and higher education in general. >> i know you are not a fan of donald trump's. but do you versailles it's going too far, the media is out of control, the college campuses are out of control? >> a lot of men fought for people to have new ideas. college ideas are good. trish: a university should have room for all thoughts. coming up next. we have thoughts on how you can help the president find a new chief of staff. ♪

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and tell us who you think might actually be in the running. don't forget friday night. have a wonderful evening, everyone. always good to spend time with you. kennedy begins right now. kennedy: thank you, trish. the battle over the border wall gets heated at the white house. top democrats have claiming victory of course, but will president trump get the last laugh? earlier today senate minority leader schumer and house minority leader pelosi visited the president in the oval office. they were trying to hammer out a deal to fund the border wall and avoid a government shutdown next friday. and with cameras rolling, surprised cameras, president trump and chuck schumer, went toe-to-toe. watch. >> the one thing i think we can agree on is we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute. and you want to shut it down. >> no, no, no. the last time, chuck, you shut it down. >> no, no.