ventura as that nation teeters on brink of collapses. see you tomorrow. kennedy: news alert, senate poised to vote on a bill that would tertemporarily avoid a got shut down, but government proposal does not have money in it to fund the border wall. so would the president even sign it. deadline to pass a bill is friday, midnight. about 800 thousands federal employees would face furloughs or forced to work without pay. senate leader mitch mcconnell flames democrats ifs for screwing things up. >> let's review why this step was necessary. even in face of a great --

following good faith efforts, by president's team our democratic colleagues rejected an extremely reasonable offer yesterday. kennedy: senate minority leader chuck schumer sees things differently with his tiny glasses. >> i'm glad leader thinks that government should not not shut n over president's demand for a wall, and democrats will support this cr . president and house should follow that lead, because shutting down the government over christmas is a terrible idea, one of the worst to come down the pike in a very long time. kennedy: oh, shut the chuck up. what happens if sense at -- senate passes a bill it moves to house, if he signs it crisis averted. the president is in a tough spot, the wall was his biggest

campaign promise, if he does not deliver, he risks alienating his most ardent supporters. and so will we avoid a shut down. and how much political damage could it cause this white house. kennedy: we talk with panel off the bat. right off the bat, lawrence jones. senior fellow at national tax mayor union mattie and star of fox, work women and money. deirdre bolton. welcome. >> thank you. >> thank you. kennedy: let's talk about the dollars and cents, president has really made a more modest ask of congress, in terms of the wall. >> this is a different tone for him, first time i have seen an attempt at compromise. he said 800 thousand workers at

risk of being furloughed that 25% of agencies that could be shut down if cr does not go into effect, nobody realliments to do that. even mitch mcconnell said there no education in the second kick of a mule. kennedy: what does that mean? >> i think it will means, based on my mule experience. that you learn from the first kick. but that second quick. >> of that first kick. >> >> i'm assuming we had two shut downs. >> nobody wins a shut down, whoever is making the most demand on shut down. they lose, we saw that with schumer earlier. kennedy: democrats making an emotional pitch, saying you can't shut government, and with hole pay checks even if they get money back. >> this is bad press.

kennedy: what is counter argument for republicans. >> keeping government open is literally your only job. when you are septembe 7 to cong% of government spending we appropriate every year is what is on chopping block, congress should be able to make ends meet, and bills pass to law, this ridiculous congress can say we will shut government. >> department of homeland security workers would be affected that would be bad headlines. kennedy: then millions over. >> i actually in support of shutting down the government. kennedy: i have no problem with it. >> at end of the day we have to ge spending under kreal, not co. they need to learn how to pay bills right way, cut spending. a lot promise balance budget amendment, if president fails to get the wall in in batch, he

will be in big poo-poo, with his voters. kennedy: the wording about wall has changed, they of now calls it fencing. that is his hill, that -- >> it will be a wall no matter what. from a wall to border wall system. kennedy: did he cave? >> of course. anyone that says he did not is intellectual dishonest. >> interesting, he is listening. >> this is his red line. >> we look at fall fiscal landscape, 25 percent of spending we do every year. it has nothing to do with our de is problem. kennedy: i'm talking about that

later. i want to talk about the wall funding. these other scenarios that president is talking about getting money. a billion dollar slush fund, how realistic. >> i think that president needs to if he is fixing funding demand congressional republican do short-term cr . kennedy: what does that do. >> me evenly getting 5 billion dollars. kennedy: continues resolution annoying. >> they have to roll up their sleeves and figure out what they need and don't need, continually passing cr's, the president said this his last cr the last time. kennedy: he was frustrated. >> cr can be a tool of leverage if republicans use them right way. in 2010 we did this erase

obama-pelosi -- increase,. kennedy: last word. >> he has to compromise on this, i am sorry it looks bad what people don't get paid for christmas. kennedy: i did think there was going to be a shut down, a compromise is he is not getting his wall funding. >> that not compromising that losing. kennedy: i don't think that republican figure out a way to change optics so they win in shut own. only thing they are good at, democrats are good at this stuff, not this stuff, they are overly emotionalized everyish they can. >> first up, get ready for a logistical nightmare on immigration, federal judge ordering all asylum seekers who sued trump administration, must

return to u.s. for their day in court. so who finds them? and who pays for them to get here? administration claims too many people were gaming the system, today judge emmitt sullivan said that policy went too far. he is same judge for michael flynn case. he is two hea two for two this n giving president's headache. joining me now. attorney, spokeswoman, grail gae trotter is back. what was judge saying today with his order? >> he is contradicting an opinion that attorney general jeff sessions issued the summer, talking about asylum laws, one

of most unfortunate things about our immigration law, they are not enforced as written. you see many special interest groups who are advocates of open borders and unlimited immigration, trying to do attempt through court to get their policies enacted through court, but american people don't agree with them, they can't get the laws past the way they -- passed the way they want this particular case, this is asylum law, this is supposed to be a narrow category. where the people who are applying for asylum, have to prove they are under a threat of persecution in their native country because of race, nationality, political opinions, religion or they are a member of a particular group, that last category that is at issue in this case. and it has been a back and forth about this, but the idea is that you are not supposed to be able to apply and be granted asylum

just because you come from a country that has a lot of violence or there is gang activity. you have to show, that it meets one of these. kennedy: i know but narrowing that leads more chaos, that chaos that both sides have exploited for political gain, and nowhere near a solution allege latest fix -- allege alle it is not makes it way through the court system, that is not how we craft immigration policy in this country. and it does not make the situation any better, so, what do we do now? >> an inner play between federal power of court system, judiciary and executive branches, you say we don't on do law this way, we are doing law this way, and we have been.

issue going ford i forward is te of judicial opinion going to stand. kennedy: what do you think? >> i think it will be continued to be tha challenged and precise result on rule of law issued that law should be followed and enforced as written. kennedy: i understand, that but problem with the laws they are confusing and vague. and it is difficult to bring in people to this country who want to work and who are good and who' to participate. >> that is a separate issue, this is asee lam asylum law. kennedy: we're talking about that, if you hadco he'sive immigration laws you would not have people abusing asylum laws, there is a direct correlation there. >> they are not allowed to lie and say they are entitled to asylum if they are not. kennedy: i understand, but i don't think that people feel

like they are lying. i think they feel like, they are leaving somewhere horrible going somewhere better. >> yes, but under the law is the narrow category. >> broaden the other category, when you narrow the immigration category, you create a black market for labor,. >> note a narrow -- not narrowing immigration law it is just recognizing our congress, acting through our representatives decided that asee lime was aaasylum was a nas legal immigration. kennedy: you have people within administration who are hardliners who want to narrow legal immigration about sn. >> yes, that is a separate iss

issue. you have people with information on about what kind of impact it has on the economy. kennedy: congress is dragging its heels. all we can hope somehow mixed parties in congress will bring a resolution. this is critical, it makes situation worse, and there are vulnerable people caught in middle of a broken system, i appreciate what you say about rule of law. we need to follow that, we need lawmakers to do their jobs that laws that make sense. >> great to be with you. kennedy: huge surprise in fight against isis, white house this morning, announcing all u.s. troops will pull out of syria. a swift about-face. president said, it was long overdue. >> we have been fighting for a long time in syria, i hav been

president for almost two years week have stepped it up, and won against isis, it is time to come back, your young women, our men they are all coming back, we won, that is the way we want it. that is the way they want it. kennedy: well now president facing an avalanche of criticism from current generals, former generals and members of both parties that fear it will create a vacuum that will be filled by the likes of russia and iran. some call this his mission acome blue chiaccomplished moment. in a nod to president bush. lindsey graham spoke out against it. >> i talked to administration not long about, about our present there, i was under

impression we would stay there until safe to come home. if we are withdrawing our forces from syria, 2200, a small footprint, i think that isis is more likely to come back, i don't agree with president they are defeated in syria. and iraq. >> president did gain support from kentucky senator rand paul. who is antiwar as they come as well as california democrats ted lieu and barbaraly who are antismart as they come. joining me now. dr. going t going to gorka is bf why we fight. some critics say, just look at sunk in iraq, they claim is working. and then whether president obama pulled back on the surge, that is when the situation really compounded and put american

forces and our allies at risk? >> right. but not everything in history repeats itself, this is a different geopolitical reality. the president was very serious when he said america first. and about bringing our troops home, and no more dumb wars, point is we have to separate two of about things, president when he came in we have phrase in white house, called physical caliphate of isis, objective of our military unit to destroy the physical caliphate. that has happened. that was destroyed within months, president does not wish to maintain a footprint of conventtional forces in theater, i do not wish to be on same side assed to lou, but we have -- set lou, we have to preventing ron and others and russia from arc m

profiting from this. >> within department of defense, you don't have agreement on how many isis fighters there are. one estimate is 2000, other is 30,000, we don't really know what we're dealing with. i am not a fan of military incursions, i don't think that u.s. should be embroiled in any of these conflicts in middle east. we have not be there if nurse ps place, you -- first place, you take a cleaver cut off any engagement. you risk himmage hemorrhaging or allies like kurds. who is delighted about this not only communists like ted lou but russia. >> we have to be accurate in the mission.

point is to maintain a capacity to hit isis if necessary. president can do that with title 50% toes under intel -- forces, we had not about regime change, and as long as russia, klei chid iran support assad you are not going to change that regime. kennedy: what about john bolton who said we're not getting out of syria until iran is out, they are there. >> they are, but we must not contemplate withdraw of 2000 conventional forces from our capacity to use and deploy special asset, there are on seitetitle 50 or by the black operations of fort bragg, that not what president was talking about today, he was talking about bringing home the conventional forces, he is a

practicinpragmatist, you cannota vacuum to be created there either the jihadis will come back or putin. kennedy: my concern, that there is a proliferation of isis or another group. remember we thought we beat al qaeda then isis sprung up. we should think if we extricate ourselves, we should not have been there in first place. but if we have to go back there, and sacrifice the lives of thousands of americans, because of some bad strategy, i think that will be immoral and unforgive inable. i hope to god it does not happen. >> we can do what needs to be done without presence of vulnerable conventional forces in theater. but that does not mean we will not be involved in syria with

other assets. >> dr. gorka thank you. >> merry christmas. >> than thank you, you too. kennedy: loretta 1 lynch. answers questions on hillary clinton e-mail probe. and the infamous tarmac meeting. tonight we talk with an econ who said -- ex-con who said a second chant saved his life that is ahead. coaching means making tough choices.

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and former obama attorney general rally had a closed-door sit down on capitol hill, answering questions about her handling of hillary clinton e-mail probe and infamous tarmac meeting with former president clinton. that stunk to high hell. nothing to see. totally fine, great grand kids. the panel is back. did we learn anything new? loretta lynch today. >> how to meditate. >> no, no. from my understanding they allowed her to talk, her attorneys did not try to interrupt. this was in a misstep by the members of congress. they should have used loretta lynch as an ally, her and comey there is beef between them, i believe that loretta lynch will

turn on comey. she will expose things he did while she was there, that would be a way to get comey. on other hand, comey seems to have some type of dirt on loretta lynch. kennedy: he said that. >> play them against one another, they do it against american citizens. kennedy: they did that with peter strzok and lisa page. and people on both sides are happier with her testimony. so, you know this is final countdown of the investigation. democrats are not going to take this up. like a last kiss before a sailor shipped off. >> what did republicans hope to accomplish by dragging her in to a closed-door session, we can't get that dirt. we don't know what was said. we know are reports from congressmen they fell asleep during the hearing.

>> i like it was bipartisan. kennedy: this time of year, you are up late on amazon. >> that is it, end of the year, they will have ability to bring in members of administration. i think that republicans need to be smart in way they play, without ability to re-- reciprocate. kennedy: we had a beautiful medium rare i fill -- filet. you have james comey. tell my grand kids one day, they dragged me in here. meanwhile. >> keeping it going this is hard

tax dollars at work? i am with you. i wish there could have been divide, let's wrap it up. get on. >> let's expose that system is corrupt. this is what they do to average day americans in criminal proceedings, but these people in power, they want to be nice, i know where bodies are buried, they protect each other, members of congress don't want them going after them, i guarantee they know dirt about them. >> democrats are not going to return that favor. they will put it on camera, grill them. kennedy: all right, coming up, senate republicans patting themselves on back after win on criminal justice reform. so when are they going to tackle entitlement reform, my monologue is next.

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pressing issues, we can't talk about economy health and success without tackling washington spending problem, we can't do that until we widdle down two thirds of spending, federal budget topped yo out identify on this year. i love older people, our vulnerable golden americans deserve a comfortable my pillow to rest their hard working heads into retirement. but we have to rejigger the ponzi scheme that will about teats up in 2024 with its cousin medicare. expiring 8 years earlier. they are like a bachelor party with a batch the hundreds at a

jiggle joint, they have pulled themselves so long. idrying up, and tax cut revenue has not bubbled up yet. what now? we're heading to an era where a mature entitlement discussion is possible, split government is better for wrestling this porcupine, lawmakers need to buckle down, and criminal justice reform as a template to keep country from imploding, that is the memo. >> mitch mcconnell said, this year only possible to tackle entitlement reform when you have a divided government, that we're go t about to get, is there hope they will fix the mess?

the panel is back, maddi, you touched on this we condition have economic health -- we can't have economic while unless we tackle this spending, am i being too optimistic in thinking criminal justice reform passed, is same one thigh ca the same o. >> difficulty with entitlement reform, it needs to politically palatable, that is not coming, president had criticism, at him other week reported he said he didn't care about debt it will be a problem by time he is gone, he is just saying what every single politician thinks, not their problem, it will come to rise whether they are not in office. >> keep kicking it. >> question is, how do you make political pressure -- that politicians today have to solve a problem to fix that is 20

years. not even 20 years in some cases, there are a couple years until they run try. dry. >> 2023, you have to raise taxes or borrow more. now rates i higher, it is a problem. >> i think problem comparison of criminal justice reform, people evolved on that issue and felt we needed from common sense perspective. kennedy: how come they can't do it on entitlement 1234. >> i don't believe they believe that way. from right they campaign on balance budget amendment but with actual cutting, president said -- >> two biggest di demographics

senior citizens and millennial. seniors, i think -- >> i think millennial feel same about entitlement they do about privacy, it will not exist. >> they just accept it is gone. >> if you are a pole ti a polito address both, you are talking to them, what do you say, older people who depend on these, and have you millennials who think they are a fantasy. >> you have to make changes so, millennials actually have something. and that means you can't touch the stuff that retiring seniors are getting right now, they will throw your keister right out of offers. >> left agenda relies on people thinking there is unless money for people to spend, we know

that is not true, we need to start cutting things, that you don't have both tim spending and that you can pay for. >> we talked about george h.w. bush his recent passing, that whole thing, he got hosed on neuheisel -- the no new taxes. >> ann said, panel thank you so much. great to see you. >> the reform bill will ease up heavy handed september 11s -- sentences and help people who are in prison get on their feet 1 they get out. a former inmate. who completed project jump-start, wrote, they do not absolve offenders, my past still haunts me. but today, i am living proof

those at their lowest, can make a decision to reverse course, find reha rehabilitation, joinie now, author. a licensed journeyman electriction with great success, tyrone welcome. >> thank you. >> you have a story. you know if you go by numbers you were arrested 14 times, suffered drug addiction 16 years, youon a home, putting one child to college, two of other children going through same program, and are on the same path to success. as you. so, you have found a way but many others in the country are not so fortunate, what would you like to see today, about the passage of? >> i would like t commend you fr

bringing spotlight to this. despite drama taking place, i would like to impress on you, i am not unique, you get a ex ophoneddeoo -- with a path, they take it. frustration increasings. kennedy: you said every time you got out you swore to your you would not go back, but you fell into cycle of drug addiction, only way to make money of th wak the law, how do you break that cycle. >> with this bill. this is first step, it is apply

named. if you like i said, you design a path way for inmate to become a productive member of society, your government does not allow convicted felons to be employed by the state. so many opportunities are lost to us, because we're convicted felons, there no time of of co contraint it follows you forev forever. for most part, i am able to participate and enjoy the opportunities. kennedy: congratulation to you on your success. this story is incredible, so man can learn from, so man min manyd themselves in a hole, often

times when you don't have a rope, you sink deeper. we're a country that believes in hard work, and second chants, people want to help themselves we're focusing on wrong thing we should focus on treating adiaddiction. >> i agree with you. and if i can leave you with one fact from me, we're spending this money to keep prisoners incarcerated you can put a inmate through a program like i went through, they become a productive part of society, they pay taxes crime rate goes down, we break cycle of single parent homes. and this is impactful. kennedy: tyrone thank you so

much. >> i am excited about it. kennedy: well said, beautifully written, and thank you for coming on, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> been my pleasure. kennedy: president trump's critic like too claim he acts like a king, and guilty of abusing his presidential power. i talk with an actor who said every president is guilty of the same thing, next.

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it rests on a simple horrible truth. that there is a colossus roaming your country. i am referring to the presiden presidency. >> i like that. kennedy: so is it fair to blame president trump for pushing boundaries of executive power, with me director of that documentary, rob, welcome back. >> thank you. kennedy: so, you point out, framers had a different intention for the executive branch and president, he did fdr wreck i it. >> a come nation of a couple things, document we people can check out on we the internet tv, they can see it go to real fee y

show president.com, for first 50 years president was a modestt office. under fdr, with combination world war ii, great depression, and fdr's grand ambitions and charm and inhaven'ttio inventioo technology. kennedy: a good word is savior. >> it is having a direct emotion emotional, connection with american public in a way there was never a connection like that before, he provided them with comfort. kennedy: laying foundation for

modern presidency, not just president trump, but also reagan, and clinton, and kennedy, they were charismatic figures, you could argue that president trump is in the same mold. executive power has grown and grown with s . so what do we do now to fix it?. what happened since fdr through course of trump, we add more and more and more grotesque expectations to what this office is supposed to be, a savior of our souls who with a weird critchcrypto religious, and firn scene, those assumptions have

enabled a steady expansion of executive authority. kennedy: will president trump be reelectioned in. >> i don't know. i don't think that there is staunching that thirst for that person, i think that trump is particularly good at serving as a master entertainer over course of clinton presidency turns out that american people have a hunger for scandalous tidbits of presidential gossip or news, president trump, like -- it is taken for granted average american citizen condition condn 6 hours without thinking about the president. kennedy: everyone needs to watch your documentary, we need to pullback on this overreach of executive power, it is not just this president but every modern president, thank you so much.

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nobody needs that kind of trouble on their doorstep in florida, police believe it was the probably looking for bath salt. >> topic two. >> let's head to new york. a fetching young man graduated college, a kick ass service dog, he helped his owner at clarkson of in theuniversity, the schoolm an ho honoree degree. >>ly i leahy is not up to his -e is not up to his eyeballs in debt. all he wants iser t foregivenesr

chewing on the couch. he did it. because he can. well done. >> topic 3. california homeowner devoted his christmas lie light display to mariah carey. that may explain why he keeps having meltdowns, the display attracts thousands of people a day, and nonstop mariah carey music gives workers pstd. some people have wondered where electric bill runs. it is cheap, hoo to honon honorh carey have you too use dim

bulbs. >> on maryland, flat scene tvs are a steal, this homeowner lost his tv, but, main character is the one who does not have a special set of skills. can pairly get it in the car. police have not caught him yet, there are a lot of people driving in maryland with their trunk open and tv flapping out. that night, the homeowner got a visit from christmas carolers. >> bear, go away. kennedy: topic 5. >> we salute an iowa gym teacher, arrested after coming to school drunk, the kids plays a spirits game of duck, duck,

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