we can stand firm. the president is standing firm. lou: good to be with you. good night from new york. trish: breaking tonight. president trump and congressional leaders failing to reach a deal to end the partial government shutdown. the democrats accusing the president of throwing a temper tantrum over the wall. president trump: they won't above $5.6 billion for a wall that will pay for it self almost on a monthly basis. it's just politics. purely politics. susan: will we see a compromise

anytime soon? tense situations at our southern border as border agents are forced to use tear gas on a group of violent migrants trying rush our southern border. some migrants hurling rocks at our very own agents. one veteran is taking matters into his own hands. he raised over $18 million on his gofundme page. '. socialist venezuela on the brink of collapse. mike pompeo says we must raise pressure on president maduro and the socialist regime. how exactly do we do that? we'll ask ambassador bolton just that. "trish regan primetime" starts right now.

i'm susan li in for trish regan. president trump staking by his demand for $5 billion in border wall funding. the partial government shutdown in its 12th day will continue for as long as it takes to get money from congress. but democrats aren't budging either. edward lawrence is standing by in washington and has the latest from us. reporter: from what we are hearing out of the meeting that happened at the white house. both sides are talking at each other, not with each other. democrats decide they could not start negotiations until nancy pelosi won the gavel tomorrow. once the meeting began the department of homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen started the conversation. chuck schumer leaned over to nancy pelosi and suggested she interrupt. kevin mccarthy says he's disappointed with democrats.

>> i didn't find the democrats were wanting to negotiate today. the minute the secretary started to do their report, they would not have it. reporter: senator chuck schumer says they used the meeting as an opportunity top pitch the president on their plan. the department homeland security would be funded but november 8. >> we hope they will not use the american people, the millions hop depend on these departments and the workers who are not working or not getting paid as hostages to have a temper tantrum and pound the table and say it's our way or we hurt all these people. reporter: the president tweeting that he stands ready and willing to work with democrats to pass a

bill that secures our borders. >> $1.3 billion is not enough to keep the country safe. if chuck schumer and nancy pelosi aren't going to come off that number, they have to explain to the american people why they aren't supporting what it takes to keep the country safe. reporter: the democrats expect to pass their funding bill minus extra border wall funding. susan: we have a congressman who supports the president's efforts to fund a wall. great to have you with us, congressman. i would argue americans believe safety and security are vital to the country. why are we still so far apart upon wall funding. >> the democrats do not want border security. as kevin mccarthy said earlier, it's up to them to put

something on the table they will agree too. tomorrow i expect a batch of bills with no funding to the wall. all that says to the american people is they don't want any type of security for the wall. it's not a matter of semantics, whether it's a black wall, fencing, metal posts, whatever. they just want security. they could end this thing tomorrow. if they could put sock on the table that would allow secure borders. anything he wants they fight. and so you know, we'll sit here as long as it takes. we showed when nancy pelosi said we didn't have the votes, put something to the senate, we did. 215-185. zero democrats voted for it. unless they change their tact we'll sit here forking long it takes. i hate it for the people who

aren't getting checks. but it isn't about politics it transcends that. the president is doing the right thing. susan: the democrats agreed with the wall in 2006 with the secure fence act of 2006, human were, clinton and others. 26 democrats agreed to this. but it's not the case and they disagree with it when it's a republican in the white house. >> that's right. look at after 9/11. they were all for it. what changed? they i think are look -- lacking at this as -- looking at this as a way to get back at this president. unless the democrats want to come to their senses, put something on the table that secures this border, it's up to them to put something forward and they haven't done it. susan: how long can we wait this

out. a poll says 47% say the many the republicans' fault. how much longer do you think president trump can stand up to the democratic leadership? >> for as long as it takes. it's not about blame. susan: it's optics. president trump is the best at optics. dose want to take the blame? >> he wants a wall. he wants border security. how long are we going to keep kicking this can down the road. do you think when nebraska nancy pelosi takes overs speaker -- takes over as speaker, it won't get any better. it's up to us to hold firm. $5 billion? it's not about the money, it's not about the fact of what type

wall. it's just we want security. the president was in the white house all weekend when miss pelosi was in hawaii. he was ready to negotiate. it's up to the democrats to put something on the table. susan: it's nice to see them back from their christmas vacation. congressman, let me ask you one more question. how much long doer you think the standoff will take? >> it depend on i think if public opinion shifts where these democrats who are holding on. not one of them voted for the goodlatte bill or house bill. if they start calling them and say this is a matter of national security, and it puts pressure on them,en i think they will have to relent. that's the only way it will have a break. the president won't relent on this nor should he.

susan: border crossing have increased the last few months. take a look at the violent pictures from the southern border. tear gassing mobs and migrants lobbing rocks. >> it's an invasion. you can't have that as a sovereign nation. now is a time, if we don't do it now, then when will we do it? i don't think we will if it's not done now. we have shown the fortitude to put something forward. it's such a small amount of money. if security is not an issue, tell democrats to take the locks off the aisles. do away with security as you go through the airports. it's so important. susan: president trump says if you don't have borders you don't have a country.

president trump pinning the blame on the democrats, the partial government shutdown. here is what he had to say from the white house today. president trump: we are in the shutdown because of the fact that the democrats are looking to 2020. they view this as an election point for them. i actually think it's bad politics. but i'm not thinking about the politics. i'm thinking about what's right and what's wrong. and we need a physical barrier. susan: remember when democrats were once for border security. take a listen. >>it is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must do more to stop it. >> we simply cannot allow people to pour into the united states undetected, undocumented, unchecked. >> we do not want to do anything to encourage more illegal

immigration into this country. >> the american people are fundamentally pro legal immigration and anti-illegal immigration. we'll only pass comprehensive reform when we recognize this fundamental concept. susan: what has changed? let's ask deneen borelli, and andrew feldman. what has changed over those years? it's probably a republican in the white house. would you agree? >> no, i wouldn't agree. what changed is the idea of comprehensive immigration reform. what democrats supported in 2006 and 2013 was comprehensive immigration reform. that's what democrats need, that's what the american people need. we want comprehensive immigration reform. that's not what we are getting. we are getting a political stunt from the president to get a wall

that wouldn't secure the border i are. susan: that's what you could say about democrats, aren't they campaigning. >> absolutely not. >> thank goodness for the videotape you are playing right now. they should be played all day long. democrats are playing politics over the safety and security of americans. and what they don't want to do is give president trump a win on anything. including safety and security for americans. that was one of his campaign promises. he wants to deliver on. this is for all americans. not just a certain political party. look what happened just recently in california. a hard-working police officer murder senselessly. could have been prevented. that was an absolute travesty for this young man, father of one. the suspect has arrest record on file. duis on record, and he's a

street gang member. that could have been prevented. democrats don't care about security, they only care about politics and they only care about votes. >> it couldn't be farther from the truth. first of all we are not afraid to give president trump a win. he just had a win on criminal justice reform. what we want is real border security that uses technology and uses drones, and something that's 21st century that will actually work. i even think this is about the wall anymore. fit was about the wall, president trump would have agreed to the $25 million for the wall he turned down in the daca deal. i think this is about president trump not wanting to let people into this country who don't look like him. >> democrats support sanctuary cities. sanctuary cities are against law abiding american citizens.

democrats care more about people here illegally and criminal illegals than they do about the safety and security of their constituents of americans. i find it outrageous that democrats will not do what they need to do to secure our borders by whatever means necessary. the democrats need to get on board. this is about hard-working americans' safety and security. and i think it's a travesty that we are witnessing this today. it's unacceptable. >> when you say that president trump doesn't want to let people who look like him into this country. look at deneen and look at me, we are here. >> that's a ridiculous statement. we -- can you tell me why president trump will not accept the $25 million he wants for the wall instead of a daca deal. he said no to that.

now we are not even talking about real border security. we know the wall will not actually secure the problems at the border. there is fencing along our border right now. susan: president trump said he wants a daca deal. >> he turned $25 billion for his wall down. this is about president trump kicking the can down the road. >> if democrats wanted to do something in regards to daca, former president obama, they had a super majority when he was in office. why was nothing done at that time. this is all about politics. and because president trump is in office and democrat politicians despise the man. >> i don't think this business politics. i think this is about president trump he stood in the oval office and said he would be proud to shut down the government. he's holding the government hostage and he's doing it to try

to fulfill his politics, his campaign promise instead of letting the 800,000 plus federal employees get back to work and compromise on border security. >> the parents of kate steinle and jamile shaw. tell that to the parents of americans who have been murdered at the hands of those who should not be in this country. >> the wall is not going to stop them from getting in. you haven't addressed that. you have not addressed that the wall actually is not going to keep border security. >> we have stats that shows the wall does work. susan: we are going to get a break. coming up. border agents forced to use tear

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many of them were from the caravan awaiting processing in tijuana. they tried to force their way across the u.s.-mexico border. the border patrol agents said the use of tear gas was aimed at rock throwers from the mexican side. my next guest says this is why we need to build the president's border wall. and he started a gofundme page and now has raised $18 million in donations. brian, you raised $18 million. that's up $6 million the past two weeks. clearly there are a lot of americans that want this wall built. >> that is correct. that number is just going to keep blowing up. we form late an exact plan to get this wall built and that's

what we are going to do. that $18 million will turn into a number people won't be able to fathom. we are just waiting for gofundme to knock out a few legal issues. susan: i understand treasury can't accept gofundme fund but there might be legislation introduced to make that possible in the future. >> we have our plan, it's nailed down. and we are making sure it' airtight. -- sure it's airtight. this will stop the attacks on our border patrol. the democrats have been enabling and encouraging illegals to come across the borders. it's dangerous for the kid and families. i have young children and a beautiful wife. i can't imagine the heartache they would have to go through if they were in this situation.

the wall is not just to stop the bad guys. it's to insure we know who is coming across the border. susan: what do you think about the democratic standing still. they are not giving any money to build the wall. >> they are not giving president trump a penny for the wall. we are not talking about a little fence. it will be significant. this will be a concrete wall. and it will happen. these guys need to follow what we are doing and we'll be rolling out that plan soon. susan: some of the donations on your gofundme page. one was $50,000. the second biggest was $13,000. so this is basically mom and pop. families across america that value safety and security at the border. >> it shows you it's not big

donors. it's the common american person who wants to be heard. they are screaming at politicians. they are screaming at the tv. they have been wanting to protect the american people and protect our country. we thank you trump for actually standing up at the last second. we want president trump to hold his ground. we are going to get this wall done one way or another. susan: you agree with the government shutdown. 800,000 government employ creadt are out of a paycheck right now? >> you have to put what's important. being short on money important other sovereignty and the security our people in the future. do you want your children and grandchildren to have the same freedom we enjoy today? i will sacrifice my paycheck for that. this is a very important issue

people take for granted. people haven't been to iraq and afghanistan and see what happens when you get stripped your freedom. susan: our audience should know how much you sacrificed for our country. triple amputee. given how much you have raids on the gofundme page, have you spoken to the president? >> i have not spoken to the president directly. i do want to point out, this is not about a political issue for us. we are going to get this wall built. it's going to be a wall. and there is a lot of people coming out to support us. x just can't go public with it right now. we'll release our full plan and it will make sense when we get it all done. it's something that's never been done in our country. it will give the american people a chance to rally and get it

done. it hasn't been done since world war ii. susan: great to have you on tonight. thank you so much for your time. let's switch gears and talk about business at this point. we had a grim outlook from apple coe, particular cook, slashing its forecast for the first quarter. the company blaming fewer iphone sales in china. the stock getting hammered in the after-hours. we expect it to be a main drag on u.s. markets given how big of a heavyweight apple is. how much has been bought in 401ks. okay, stay with us on fox business for the latest on apple and all your business news you need.

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susan: president trump doubling down on leaving syria and demanding in no uncertain terms for the rest of the world to do their share against isis. president trump: we went to syria for some spot hits. and that was five years ago. and we never left. i don't want to be in syria. i go to walter reed hospital and i see soldiers who are so badly injured and hurt. i don't want that. i don't want it. i want to rye build our country. i want to spend money on our military without depleting it.

susan: joining me is general jack keane. general, it's great to have you on tonight. it looks like we are maybe not quickly withdrawing from syria. that's probably the smart move. >> i totally agree with that. the president made some adjustments here. clearly what he's look for are for some conditions to be set before we leave. one is certainly that isis is truly finished. as we all know, they are not. they have taken the caliphate and the territory away from them. they we destroyed many of their fighters and detained them. but there are a few thousand out there, we are going to finish that. the second condition is he wants to be assured the syrian kurds are not going to be attacked by turkey when we do depart. and the third thing, he doesn't want iran to establish a land bridge inside syria.

on the jordanian border twhribs also a refugee camp. the concern is they would even controversy on israel. i'm sure prime minister netanyahu expressed his concern to president trump about a premature withdrawal. those adjustments have been made and they make a lot of sense. susan: can they counter against russia in the region? >> iran is the driver in syria. they motivated the russians to come in. the russians are using syria as a platform to replace the united states as the most of influential country in the region that's outside of the are region. that's something we held since world war ii. and now the russians are trying to creep up on that objective. susan: what do you anticipate?

120 days? >> i don't know. it's probably in excess of 120 days to set those conditions. but i think it president is desiring to let the conditions drive it. by obviously has this decision on a leash. at some point he may run out of patience. i think getting those conditions in place will be critical, and eventually we'll come out of syria. that's for sure. susan: let's move on too north korea. so far we haven't seen any missile tests and he's talking about shrinking their nuclear arsenal. that's encouraging. >> i'm not all that encouraged. there have been no miss isles flying over japan. we have nod made a single piece -- we have not made a

single piece of progress on denuclearization. they have not provided us with the inventory of their nuclear and ballistic miss islands and chemical and biological weapons that we requested at our first meeting prior to the president's meeting with kim jong-un at the summit. i don't think we should go to a second summit until such time they've begin to ante up to put in place the conditions for eventual denuclearization. kim jong-un wants two things from us before he moves along in terms of denuclearization. he wants the united states to take all of our nuclear weapons out of the region. that's submarines and bombers. not going to happen. we are not there because of north korea. we are there because of other countries. second thing, he wants us, if he's going to move in this direction he wants to us remove the sanctions. that's something we are able to

achieve with previous presidents? that's where we are. i think we are at a stalemate. susan: let, move on to venezuela. this is a story trish regan is following closely. their socialist government is on the brink of collapse. mike pompeo was in venezuela telling his counterpart from peru to keep up the bring sure. peru is right next door. what does the pressure on venezuela * mean for the u.s.? >> we imposed sanctions and there is probably some other work we can do there. but most of of this is in the hands of the countries in the region. we have a leadership role to play, and we have a change of government in venezuela. we know the people are

suffering. there is a huge my graiption exodus taking place in venezuela because of that suffering. we work through the nations in the region to help the venezuelans move in the right direction which is a fundamental change in government. we stay out of that in terms of u.s. government trying to impose our will on that. but at the same time support what's going on in the region. susan: brazil inaugurated a new president. the first conservative right-wing hard line tore take over since the 1990s. >> the people are fed up with government. we saw that in our own election here, different degrees, different issues to be sure. and we have seen some of it in europe. in brazil they are fed up with

crime. they have the highest murder rate in the world. they are fed up with government corruption which is staggering. we have never seen anything like it in the united states. and they are fed up with economic stagnation that's been going on for years. we have a man who has come in to go after corruption and crime and impose law and order. he wants to stimulate the economy. he's going to sell off all the government-owned enterprises and privatize them which will give him a huge revenue. the only thing that concerns me web was very supportive of the military dictatorship that existed in brazil from '64 to '85. hopefully his 7 terms as a congressman dissuade him of that.

he's proposing democratic reforms and not a dictatorship. but let's applaud what's taken flames by the brazilian people. sue san he wants to move closer to the u.s. as well. general jack keane, good talk to you tonight. liberal massachusetts senator elizabeth warren drinking beer to become more relatable? jeff flake out, mitt romney in. president trump firing back after newly elected senator mitt romney publishes an anti-trump op-ed. that's why i switched to liberty mutual. they customized my insurance, so i only pay for what i need. i insured my car, and my bike.

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mitt romney saying president trump's character falls short of oval office. president trump: i wish mitt could be more of a team player. i'm surprised he did it this quickly. if he fought really hard against president obama the way he does against me, he would have won the election. susan: joining me, ned ryun and scott bolton. i would call his relationship with romney as frenemies. >> mitt romney was asking for trump's endorsement in the senate race and can't wait to get sworn in before he attacks trump. i don't know what mitt romney is. he calls himself severely

conservative then moderate. i know for shire's an opportunist. he's looking to be the new jeff flake in washington never missing a chance to moralize about trump's character. the thing that struck me look at that op-ed. what is more immoral, to sell people out and not fix the immigration system and get them into bad trade deals and get them into foreign wars in which we can't even make an argument why we are there, afghanistan for 17 years. or leadership saying i will promote and prioritize the interests of the american people. i find the mitt romneys and many of the establishment republicans to be deeply immoral people because i think they have been lying to the american people for decades. >> at the risk of agreeing my friend ned ryun, i find romney

to be hypocritical but for other reasons. this is the boss stonian deal every republican has to deal with. if you look at donald trump's record, he has a strong record on the conservative republican agenda. policy deregulation and tax cuts, foreign policy he gets outside of that tradition. susan: van paul characterizes it pretty well. >> this virtue of signaling. when romney wants to tear down the president's character, he's sort of puffing himself you have. if there were an election between president trump and romney in a primary, i think romney would be buyed out. >> -- would be wiped out. >> there are republicans who have issues with trump's character but they don't have an issue with his tax cuts and his

policies. i think romney is signaling he'll call him out on his character issues. susan: being called the second jeff flake is not a god mantel. >> is he going to oppose legislation because of character issues. susan: he didn't have a problem with the president's character when he was look for support in 2012 or when he was look for the position as secretary of state. >> you can be both. most of republicans are in that space. susan: ned, go ahead. >> we knew we weren't electing a saint when we voted for donald trump. we knew what we were getting and we didn't want another elegant loser like mitt romney. we wanted a bare knuckle brawler

like donald trump who said i will give you tax cuts and cut the regulatory state, i will give you conservative judges, i will keep my promises the best i can when i get into office. we knew what we were voting for and i am voting for him again in 2020 and i'm not disappointed one bit. susan: this goes back to authenticity. elizabeth warren becomes the first democrat to take a major step towards a presidential run in a few years time trying to connect with her voters. take a listen. >> i am glad for everybody who is streaming this video. it's great to hear from you. hold on a second. i'm going to get me a beer. my husband bruce is here. want a beer? >> i will pass on the beer for now. >> this is my sweety.

>> hello. he, the best. susan: ned, i will go to you first. we'll go to ned. was this successful in your view? >> no. susan: she is trying show she is just like and me. >> she should have made the announcement sat wounded knee or little big horn. i thought it was extremely inauthentic. i think elizabeth warren will be yesterday's flavor in the 2020 primary. but i think whoever wins the democratic nomination in 2020 will have to square to the ideology. >> i think it will be a happy

medium. what matters is the democratic voters say the. does it connect with them? susan: no. no. >> she is kissing her husband. she is trying to look like the every woman. i don't think it was very effective. but it's the voters who ultimately count. susan: thank you for joining us. cnn getting hammered for airing what critics are calling a death threat from a liberal hollywood actress. many say her new year, resolution went way too far. right after this. each day justin chooses to walk. at work... and after work. he does it all with dr. scholl's. only dr. scholl's has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort.

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>> my new years resolution is to make sure that the republican party dies. susan: that was actress and "saturday night live" alumnist jane curtin saying her new year's resolution was to end the republican party it was a little strange. you have colbert saying he wants a 60s pack. that was a little odd. wouldn't you say, larry? >> i think it's a little odd. the irony for me is i'm sure jane curtin sees herself as a tolerant, inclusive person. but you must agree with her or she'll be intolerant of your ideas. she excluded half the country because they don't agree with

her politics. that doesn't seem very inclusive to me. susan: are we all supposed to want to lose weight in 2019? i don't get that. what do you think, katie? >> i think she is of course known for her dead and, and that delivery seems on par with her version of comedy. but i think you are totally right. it's divisiveness. you are ringing in a brand-new year and all you can think about is how you dislike half of this country and you hope the party who represents them disappears? i would hope she would have happier things to talk about than that. it came across as sad. susan: we have a former "new york times" executive editor admitting the newspaper's news coverage is unmistakably anti-trump.

jill i gram o -- jill abramson e news pages were unmistakably anti-trump. she said some headlines contained raw opinion and stories that were labeled as news analysis. we kind of know this, right? >> i don't believe anybody is surprised by any of this. when you become recognized as only being against something or someone, it's fair that you be labeled as biased. she is an insider, she kind of knows. she is a former editor. to say it out loud, i applaud her for it. susan: doesn't this hurt the credibility of the "new york times." some people saying they are part of the opposition inside the white house? >> absolutely. you have places like the "new

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susan: here is someone we missed. kanye west kicking off the new year with praise for president trump wrapper waiting back into politics after he self initiated break tweeting quote - appears the feeling is mutual. here's how the president responded from the white house. >> even kanye west came out today and said great things about tom. he's a good guy. he's a said great things about us because he sees what you're doing. susan: that is what you call a

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