about this and more tomorrow on "bulls & bears". keep into the foxbusiness night we got full coverage and analysis of the president's first oval office address. coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern with myself and trish regan followed by neil cavuto and kennedy. that does it for both embarrassment we will see you next time. >> today the speaker of the house is trying to argue a physical barrier is immoral. >> a wall is and immorality. it's not who we are as a nation. >> maybe they are dead set but this particular president. >> we are not doing a lot. >> they are not immoral. elizabeth: three hours away from the president's primetime address in the oval office as a set down showdown is now at fever pitch. it is the story of the unstoppable force of president trump meeting the immovable object of nancy pelosi. both sides seeking major political rest, tonight who will be blamed for the shutdown and

who will be blamed for the danger at the border? in the and charles schumer delivering the democratic response to the president's address. the president's address is sure to be quote, full of malice and misinformation. give special coverage of it all. happening right now, vice president pens is meeting with republic and leadership on the shutdown and what about negotiations with the democrats. we will take alive to the press conference. it's happening minutes from now and this just in. president trump advised president pens will attend the senate gop policy lunch tomorrow but what is really happening, we bring you the hardbacks and the debate over whether president trump could find law to clear a state of emergency and no indication you will do that. what if you can use military funds to pay for the affordable? that debate on the potential legal backlash and the fallout right there could welcome to the show. thank you for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald and the

evening and it starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. let's take you to capital with vice president pence meeting with republican leadership at this hour. chad is on capitol hill with the latest. reporter: this is the advanced team vice president pence acting chief of staff nick mulvaney and the homeland security directors to nielsen making their case for a border wall in the situation at the border to house republicans. what is going on simultaneously here on capitol hill house rules committee is meeting. that is the committee that is the gateway to the house for. starting tomorrow house democrats will start to move a series of individual appropriations to reopen the government and start with the financial services bill which runs a treasury department and irs. the advance to bills last week which moved with bipartisan support to reopen the government and a lot of people think there

could be even more republicans vote for these bills in the coming days. it's an effort by democrats to put pressure on republicans to vote yes and reopened the government. in addition to president trump and vice president pence coming to the capital to meet with senate will begin tomorrow with house republicans we been told what we call here on capitol hill the big eight, top two leaders from both sides of the capital, both parties to a total of eight house speaker nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy and so on they will know to the white house tomorrow afternoon at 3:0. first meeting is that rather extraordinary session on december 11 that was in public that you remember they met in the situation room last week but we don't know how this meeting will go. anytime you start to have people talk that's a good sign and people said the other day when they have these meetings with aids with vice president pence during the meeting on saturday and sunday they really were deputized to get anything done.

it's different when you have the leaders there front and center. elizabeth: thank you chad for your reporting. we'll go back to capitol hill moments from epic movie leadership will be taking to the cameras. let's get to the government shutdown causing chaos. hundreds of screeners working without pay the border working without pay and iris workers being called back in from furlough in order to process tax refunds. 39,000 federally backed mortgage applications may have been delayed and 40 million people expected to run out of food stamps by the end of the month. let's get to edward lawrence, at the white house with president trump set to address the nation tonight. reporter: in three hours the president will make his case on why that is important and the things you just laid out and why this could rise to the level of a national security with everyone in his imagination is talking about this. listen to secretary of state mike pompeo in jordan.

>> [inaudible] [inaudible]. reporter: senator chuck schumer and house speaker nancy pelosi will talk about why we need to fund the entire government before we talk about border security. democrats across the board questioning the president's motives. >> the president's address should also come with a warning to viewers and that warning is the comments you are about to hear are not based on fact and are likely to include this information, blatant lies and fear mongering. that should be the warning that runs across the screen when this address takes place. reporter: over and over the house speaker says she will not give any more money for border wall. vice president mike pence is saying democrats are refusing to

negotiate. elizabeth: let's take a check of your money. stocks across the board in rally mode again and hopes for a china trade deal aching up steam with jerry willis has a story. reporter: >> consolidate markets with the dow ending up 256 points after going really negative today. the dow led by apple tim cook ceo saying he's optimistic about trade talks then that was a theme all day today. boeing ending higher as well on the trade talks. optimism and news, united healthcare those two stocks leading the way on the dow that because healthcare sector has been strong. last year all year long merger after propelling no stock today. larry ellison reviewing his stake in tesla on the board now and he's invested a billion dollars in that company. as we await the president's speech tonight we see deal stocks on fire. comedies like ak steel holdings,

steel dynamics all of them hire as the president said he'll build his wall out of steel not out of the concrete. no one wanted to be short those steel names today. liz, back to you. liz: let's take on the democrats case. they are saying is open the 25% of the government to shut down and talk about the later. president trump they know. to the wall first then open the government. senator lindsey graham warning president trump that the wall has become a metaphor for border security and talk about that instead of just the wall. president talking about both. look at these republican senators. the starting to peel away from president trump. facing difficult reelections in 2020 and they say reopen the government, we are talking cory gardner, susan collins and tom tillis in morbid for his take a spring in steve forbes. it sounds that trump and pelosi have boxed himself into a corner with uncommon reminding positions.

the democrats will say the threats are greatly exaggerated but chuck schumer in january of last year said yes to 25 billion in portable funny so i don't get the disconnect there. reporter: the disconnect is donald trump and the intimacy and hatred of the democratic party which is the far left against him. it's gotten harder and if that is hard to believe it worth today it was a year ago. he knows and schumer knows if he is seen as compromising towards donald trump he will be in trouble with his caucus. the thing with nancy pelosi. she not been elected beaker when she had that meeting with president trump in december. she was worried she might not the speakership so she backed herself into a corner and did not want the extreme part of her party to come after her. liz: let's talk the corner that they have boxed themselves into. the endgame is not being revealed. basically they want to put to the might of the border that the border wall is un-american and

immoral. thus is the fact that the entire trump agenda is immoral. >> let's talk about a stretch. we have miles of border wall already in southern california. people went around it but the wall block the people. this is part of a program to make sure we know comes into the country. the procedures and rules should be followed. it's true the number of trying to get across the border is going down precisely because they know we will enforce the laws. they're not going to have an automatic easy and when they come in and say they show up into court and they don't. liz: media say the reason that there is not a problem in the border - >> the president has taken actions so people know they're not going to have an easy time at the border. democrats they don't need the border patrol anymore. that's like saying were almost no one. liz: hill magazine said the democrats worst nightmare is

they don't want to see a tv ad campaign from president trump in october 2020 with him sitting by a steel barrier at the laredo texas border saying i satisfied and got my number one campaign promise, i delivered but that's what their fear is. you agree to speak know. their fear is behind closed doors is the economy will be booming in 2020. that is more important in terms of voters minds than the wall itself. liz: let's look at the democrats case they continue to talk about things were cities and abolish i.c.e. the number of illegals is down from the peak nearly two decades ago and the caravans have diminished and this is about a campaign promise not an emergency that certainly has risen and that bottom line that the law covered construction during the wall and that's a bullet point i was going to talk to you about. basically the law is suggesting the president could use military funds and certainly with counter narcotics in the defense

spending. that would meet a court challenge. >> know sooner what he say it or sign an executive order on that then you know it would be in the courts. given the nature of the course today you know some court judge would say we will put this on hold so it will take months and years. that's why i think ultimately you will see after both sides go through especially the democratic side they go through their dance thing we fought and fought and then they'll say we will save 1,700,000 dreamers from potential deportation and they will cut a deal. liz: yeah. >> and the american people will say let him have his blood he will for crying out loud. liz: move on. steve forbes, thank you coming up, we bring you the president's case for border security and the wall house of public leaders are set to head to our cameras after wrapping up a briefing with vice president pence but this is a jampacked hour, stay with us.

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meeting and the present case is about to make tonight but we welcome the public and strategist and democrat strategist great to see you bo both. first you president trump here is his case illegals crossing, criminal illegals crossing drugs, gang members and yes terrorist. stay on this one because there are more than 2500 terrorists who in fiscal 2017 who are on the terror watch list we did try to get into this country via land, air or sea and all that quibbling in the media has to be set aside. that is what elements gertie is a 40 more than 2500 cut them. your take on that? >> we have a national security problem goes well beyond just the southern border. the border in and of itself is a

national security and community in crisis. the facts backup president trump and even the washington post agrees. generally we want to reduce illegal immigration at the southern border you erect physical barriers but erected six or 700 miles so far as reduced but traffic up to 90% in san diego, yuma and what i don't get is that work so why are democrats against it? is all only asking for more fencing. liz: we are monitoring the republican leadership about to head to the cameras with vice president pence met with them. nearly 400,000 illegal apprehensions at the border and last fiscal year it is down from 1.6 million in fiscal 2,000 and i don't want to go too much overboard with the numbers here but here is what is striking. estimates show 820,000 criminal illegals inside this country of estimated 11 million across the border. by air, literacy but hundreds of thousands of convicted felons and robin, you know this. nearly 200,000 texas prisons along were talking homicide, assault, burglary. robin, your take.

is the media quibbling about the differences in the numbers when the facts are this is an issue? >> the media is not being completely honest and that is all media they are all guilty. the facts tell the truth and credit to our border control for apprehending the suspected terrorist. they say they did us a huge favor and i need for both sides of the party here and both sides of the aisle to understand and try to work together on this issue because we do need comprehensive reform. if you listen to democratic party leadership the minority whip in the senate says he doesn't have a problem with the wall but it's a one layer of security but he wants to see other reforms like more cars of the border and doing something about the fentanyl crisis. liz: robin makes a point that the wall is part of a broader picture, right? let's show the drug seized at the border.

look at the thousands of pounds of methamphetamines and cocaine and fentanyl that robin was just talking about. i'm telling you it's an issue. illegal declared asylum has rocketed higher and inundated our courts. 800,000 cases in the courts. how could this not be a crisis right now? >> it absolutely is. the wall is just one part of the crisis but you take away the incentives that create this crisis and illegal immigration. that's not just open 2,000-mile border but asylum rules but were talking sanctuary cities. they are basically refuge for fugitives but were also talking about governors in california and a mayor in new york city who want to give away free health care to the entire world. you have to take away the incentives that create this crisis and essentially beyond the wall or couple of changes the democrats have no interest whatsoever in getting rid of the root cause of the problem. liz: democrats did sign off on generate last year, 25 billion

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production will be out of china and we are not yet shared where were will be productions to. reporter: yeah, i pushed him liz. i wanted to know if he was going to south asia or vietnam and south mexico is a hot place where people are moving production to or maybe the united states. go pro's brand-new camera the hero seven comes in white, black and silver. those are different levels of a built ability. his award-winning and right now it's become the most successful camera. it's company who has gone through trouble with the momentum names but go pro was here when the most popular but they, too, like everyone else is feeling malleable with the china situation. liz: great reporting. good to see you, liz. let's get back to the same story.

more than a few in the mainstream left media along with democrats say the border funding crisis is all cooked of chaos. there is no national emergency at the border and its an emergency of president trump of making but here is what the media is saying. watch. >> this whole idea of declaring a national emergency is ludicrous because there isn't one. >> and the president tries to reach out and extend his executive power and try to get our military to build the border wall declaring this national security emergency i think he will face a significant and likely successful challenging quarter. >> the president has created an entire horse around the wall. >> left me as clear as he possibly can be there is no national security crisis at the border. liz: newly sworn in california democrat governor avenue something he will do close sanctuary and give it sanctuary

to all who seek it. that was in his inaugural address. go back to the panel. what do you think? is the state cooked up prices to trumbull make it? no, it's not. he uses it for political purses like any , like i said. we got to get her boots on the ground and get real with us. >> to robin's point it's not a crisis so why do the democrats sign off on $25 billion in border wall security funding last january 2018.

>> it's been a crisis since 2015. the media was screaming at president obama about this crisis and basically president trump has picked up the baton where obama left off to use it as a campaign. what is happening out is their hatred for donald trump is clouding the issue. if they would take a step back it's not only a united states crisis but crisis around the world. essentially migrants are moving to wherever the jobs are in wherever the government benefits are the best. essentially you're saying that n on the trinadon't wonder why misery but along with drugs, crime and human trafficking. it's beyond me. the media is more concerned trump and the understanding of what is going on. liz: a third of the 2,000-mile border between the us and mexico is covered by various types of fencing and the democrats approve that. 90 democrats have approved that

fencing. robin, $5 billion that the president possess for i would imagine $40 a taxpayer which does not seem a big amount from the dollar prices in order to get border security. >> exactly. that is why i got an issue. 2006 it received bipartisan support in senator hillary clinton and barack obama and chuck schumer all supported this. we had 654 miles so the president would do wisely to pitch this as an extension of that and compromise on the fencing idea instead of fortified concrete wall. >> robin hit the nail on the head but the president should pitch this as a democrat agreed to this in 2006 problem has gone progress the worst and all i want to do is extend something we all do agree works. liz: ford, will be criticized for exaggerating and being deceiving and for making stuff up on the fly so what is your

concern about that? >> if presidents were all held to a truth leader no one would get on tv we saw what barack obama you can keep your plan to. if the situation were president trump has realized you not talking people who are not truly engaged in politics but will be tuning in tonight. he needs to make the case and want to build upon as rightly pointed out something that works and everyone has bipartisan agreement. liz: robin, will you look on? will the people say get it over with and move on in their other issues to deal with. >> yes. definitely. people want to see our government reopened especially tsa in our present security. i'm concerned about that. americans do want a solution here. a vast number support the wall ensure the president stretches

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>> they put that partisan tantrum over keeping a quarter of the government open. i hope that our government credit colleagues don't pile on even more. for the sake of the humanitarian

crisis on the border i urge our democratic colleagues to get past these horrible political games and get serious about negotiating with the president. liz: that is senator mitch mcconnell talking about getting on with it. talking the top floors of president trump meeting the unmovable objects of nancy pelosi. both boston about taking serious political risks as a government shutdown looks like it may be the longest in history if it moves past saturday. both are sticking 2020 on it. let's bring in texas republican representative. congressman, you just came out of a meeting with vice president pence, is that correct? >> that's right. the kateri nielsen, department of homeland security and the vice president gave us a briefing on what is going on in negotiations have taken place. the president, my impression is he has been negotiating in good faith. secretary nielsen presented the leadership the democratic party

with the facts and figures and they refused to listen and i can tell you there is and i was on the border two days ago down there in three different counties on the southern border in my home state of texas and it is indeed a national crisis. this is something that has to be addressed, people are literally dying. 50 people a day are going to medical emergencies, 60,000 illegals are hitting the border every single day. they are arresting terrorists and would be terrorists and criminals in the activities there. it's not a status quo situation in status quo funding is not going to get it. we got to have border security and that is what everybody in my district i talk to and even those folks on the border, border patrol agents .

liz: congressman, stay right there. we do have a problem. we hear you but we cut right now to the republican press conference that you just attended of the meeting with the talk about the meeting with vice president pence. let's listen and. >> is a security crisis. we got to ensure we provide the resources necessary president has been and continues to negotiate in good faith he's getting an address this evening, first time he's given an address from the oval office that shows you the importance of the issue. at the same time, we are in a situation where even though we provided the information democrats asked for in terms of detailing what the resources are necessary to use for they have not responded they are not come back and refuse to negotiate. we are absolutely dedicated to major we secure the border and stop the political games and partisan games and vice president was received very warmly and was able to get everybody a very clear idea of what the president stands in his commitment on this issue. with that i turn it over to the whip.

>> we have a clear crisis at the southern border. i appreciate the fact president trump has a strong result to solve this crisis while working to reopen the government but what we have seen from pelosi and schumer are a refusal to negotiate. this goes back to weeks ago we passed a bill out of the house to fully fund the remaining agencies. while solving the crisis at the southern border. that bill went to the senate and the president immediately started to offer the negotiation with chuck schumer. they started talking numbers through the vice president and yet not one day did you see a counter offer. vice president pence did a great job of addressing our conference to explain seriousness of the crisis and to talk the numbers. they are astounding and alarming. i'm sure president trump will go into some of that night but just last year over 70,000 people with prior criminal convictions

tried to cross the southern border and we are taught those are the ones we caught by the way. how many more got through because we don't have a secure border. that's what this is all about what we want to get the entire government reopened while securing the border. you can't have one without the other. you can't say you are for border security and then refuse to support the very things it will take to secure the border. these are numbers from the president but from the experts tasked with keeping our country safe. want to keep our country safe but don't have the tools they need. we will see tonight how serious this crisis is at the border but what we've got to get this problem solved and reopen the government while securing the border. >> we had our update from our conference and it was a positive conference. vice president to secretary of home and talked about [inaudible] more importantly, this president from the day of the shutdown was to begin they

tried to negotiate the agreement but to keep government open the more poorly solve our border problem. when we met last week we cannot get to a point because we do not have our leadership. you watch how closely some of these leadership were and that made a difference but we waited to come back on friday and made improvement and in that agreement we stayed over the week and this is the time to solve this problem before we get to the point of federal employees. the president is committed to that to try to solve the problem about keeping border security. in the meetings of the white house every single person says there for border security. then that is the definition of border security. that is the fundamental. and watch the floor it seems like it's more games because those bills are going nowhere in the senate. mcconnell is already said he agreed to it. now is the time for both sides

to come together, come to an agreement especially all sides say they support border security. and find common ground to make sure the rest of government open back up we continue to move forward and end the crisis on our border. mr. president will speak tonight and i look forward to hearing what he has to say. i hope they speak at the same time and we may listen and find that this president was to solve this problem. >> did they give indication of what the president would order a national emergency - >> they do not touch that topic. you will hear what the president will say tonight. >> is concerned that they were because under president obama your side was concern always saying we need to exercise our article one and will you give the okay at the president went around. >> i watch this president and the number of meetings i've been in with him with the democrats on the other side i watched the speaker of the house first

interrupt the secretary would not let her give her own presentation and then as we continue these meetings at a later the secretary finally had the ability to give backs out she said i disagree with the facts. they are not the secretary's back. there are the facts that are happening along the border. we have individuals who say they don't want to talk about anything even though he believes in border security. this is the time to put people before politics, stop playing political games and the president has worked day in and day out he stayed here through the process of trying to make sure people came together, find common ground that this is something that the president ran on and the public understands. the crisis on her border and solve that problem and make sure government open back up. >> i apologize. >> mr. leader, is it possible to secure the border without the walking back. >> the president has docked before. when he secure the border it is

not just the wall but a wall matters. liz: kevin mccarthy, steve cleese saying the present space meeting with the vice president and homeland security we have the senator brian babbitt, representative ryan babbitt in the room. congressman, you are still with us. >> yes, i am. liz: that was force. 17,000 criminal illegals apprehended at the border and we know that more than 2500 on the terror watch list apprehended by homeland security in fiscal 20 2017. talk to us, are you frustrated when you see the democrats and the media quibbling over what is going on at the border? >> i said something a while ago that there were 60,000 illegals hitting our border per day and i

meant to say every month. let me correct that. i'm very frustrated. we are all frustrated. we voted to keep this government open and voted to give 5.7 billion for border security and it is a national crisis and worsening every single day. i was getting ready to say a few minutes ago before the press conference that i've been on the southern border of texas this past weekend and i was down there for three days. it is absolutely a national crisis and there are criminals being arrested at the border and criminals being arrested by the hundreds of thousands interiorly who are alien criminals. this is got to be solved and the democrats absolutely made to fund this border security. liz: ryan babin thank you for joining us. we will be right back. we got a whole lot of show still coming up.

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liz: welcome back. we are little over two hours away from present from live address from the oval office. just heard kevin mccarthy the vice president pence did not tell authority leaders this president trump will declare a national emergency. but could he use military funds to build the wall without congress.

messy court fight but congress does hold a constitutional pursestrings. we need [inaudible] we will bring in constitutional attorney. what's your take, can he do it? >> absolutely. congress has the ability to legislate under the constituti constitution, it's very clear in article one for what they've done is delegate authority to the president for instances in advance of national emergency he can close the border and use construction funds the secretary of defense to build the wall. in 1983 the support held by seven-two as a decision that congress cannot grant authority to the president and then block that action simply when they disagree with policy. liz: the president, to your point, could point to a number of laws starting in the 80s that were enacted in 22016 that say yes, he can build the wall without congress basically you can do with the army the financial civil engineer and

defense spending done with international drug trafficking which is by law the defense department can build fences and barriers. what he be hit with court challenges here? >> i think he will be hit with court challenges and the question is never can someone sue but will they prevail? we don't have an activist liberal court and if we have an originalist, conservative umpires on the court which we do now have a conservative majority if they are applying the rules to the president and allowing him to stay within the margins of the constitutional authority granted the congressional 30 granted then they will say we don't care whether or not we disagree with this policy but look at whether he's acting within the martian of the scope of authority and clearly he is. it's not only a border security and national security crisis in the interim and

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liz: just over two hours from now president trump will address the nation from the oval office. let's bring in fox news west.butoonel you have served in the military, you served in the house. your take on the democrat and the media saying quote, this whole thing about the president and the border crisis, the border crisis is greatly exaggerated if not fabricated. what's your take on all of this. >> it's not a fabrication or exaggeration. i think the president should brief the american people of the department of homeland security slides that were used to brief the members of the republican house and also have been talked

about open you've gotten statistics from that. you need to use a visual aid toe show the american people what is happening on the border and say the democrats are with the american people or islamic jihadists and criminal gangs. liz: the media is going full on this whole thing about the terrorists, downplaying it. here is what homeland security is saying, fiscal 2016 it encountered 2554 people on the terror watch list trying to get in the u.s. via air, land and sea. isn't this cause for concern. >> that is cause for great concern. and once again that puts the democrats in a position to say either you're with the american people or you're with the islamic terrorists. you talk about shutting down the opioid crisis and the drug crisis. let's talk about all of the pounds, fentanyl especially that was caught trying to illegally come across the border. this is the critical thing that the president has do to show why you need to have this barrier,

this part of an overall border security system. liz: if it's not a crisis according to the democrats, why did the democrats sign off on $25 billion for border wall and security funding last year, including chuck schumer shining off on that? >> well, you're absolutely right. the hypocrisy is laughable and they're trying to turn this into a political issue. they don't want the president to be able to do something and say he's taking care of the american people. this is about doing what's right by the american people. if they're going to cave on this, their base is going to be apoplectic against them. the democrats don't va a high ground when it comes to the safety and security of the american people. let's take about how many people have been killed by criminal and illegal immigrants, kate steinle and ronald singh. liz: colonel, we just ran out of

time. we appreciate you for coming in. thank you for watching. thank you for having us in your homes. "lou dobbs" is next right here on the fox business network. have a good night. david: good evening, i'm david asman. lou has the night off. in less than two hours the president is going to address the nation in the oval office to address the national security crisis along the southern border. the president will make his case fur the border wall, a demand he's continually called for during the shutdown. >> the united states needs a physical barrier, a wall to stop illegal immigration and the deadly inflow of drugs and crime. without a wall you cannot have border security. it will not work. having drones and other forms are all fine but they're not