>> probably. most states will limit the ability to take a percentage. it's not like a personal injury case is usually based on -- >> he is available at they want him, thank you, brad! >> he asked speaker policy would you agree to my wall? and she said no. he got up and said there's nothing to discuss and walked out. >> we not only facing a partial shutdown but humanitarian and security crisis. >> what the president is claiming in the border is not solved by a wall. >> we want to come to an agreement. we believe in border security, we have different views. we have already offered the president ourproposal.

the president may clear he will stand firm to achieve his priorities. to build a wall . >> president trump walked out of the white house meeting today with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi saying it is a total waste of time. they both rejected the board while saying again and again today, this is a made up manufactured crisis. that was today. listen to chuck schumer make a passionate case against illegal immigration and for a border barrier in 2009. watch. >> is that illegal immigration is wrong. plain and simple. people who enter the united states without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the u.s. legally. any immigration solution must recognize that we must do as much as we can, to gain control of our borders as soon as possible. 650 miles of border fence. that created a significant barrier for illegal immigration on the southern land border. >> everyone is fact checking the president.

tonight, we fact check democrats side of the debate. the bottom line is this, there are only three choices to end the chapter.the president gives in, democrats like nancy pelosi gives in order president trump declares a national emergency and uses military money to build the wall. the final choice is sounding increasingly likely. an increasinglyfrustrated president . fred barnes was into my pc and and chris cuomo getting slammed by the liberal media. for saying, listen to border patrol officials. they say, we need to tighten and toughen our barriers at the border. it is effective. we're bringing on an individual who represents a group largely ignored. an angel mom. she and -- her son was killed by an illegal immigrant with a record. and the president fighting with california democrat lawmakers. hitting back hard. the president ordered fema to

stop aid for forest fires. the democrats in the state saying president trump is hurting the victims first. we have that debate. welcome to the show, thank you for joining us. i am elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. let's get right to the white house with the latest update on the shutdown showdown. edward? reporter: liz, with two different version of the same meeting. the president tweeting right after saying this was basically a complete waste of time. a meeting that he called, saying that he just walked out. a meeting he called to get democrats engaged in this process. just listen to how it's being described. >> unfortunately, the president just got up and walked out. he asked speaker pelosi, would

you agree to my wall? she said no. and he just got up and said then we have nothing to discuss and he just walked out. again, we saw a temper tantrum. >> the president literally called the question. he said, if i open up the government quickly, when you agree to border security and a wall? the speaker of the house and said, no.at that point i think the president thought there was no longer any reason to be talking at this meeting. >> it seems that we are heading for a tie of the longest government shut down in history. 21 days, that would be tomorrow. the president went to capitol hill today to meet with republicans, senators for lunch. to make sure the base was solid. he said republicans remain unified. the president says any part of border security must include a wall. >> without the wall it doesn't matter. a drone is not stopping 1000 people from running through. >> some 800,000 federal workers

will not receive a paycheck tomorrow. the stalemate has no end in sight. the president leaving open fact that he could call in national emergency.he could declare a national emergency and possibly use military money to build a wall. liz: the president is going to texas tomorrow but not for the meeting with, the annual meeting with -- >> he is going there. it will bea roundtable discussion there. he's also going with senator john cornyn , he will go with him to the meeting to the wall to see exactly what's happening down there. liz: he may not go, it is still in the fence, right? >> have not heard that but at this point, still planning on going to davos. at this point mcallen texas is the next step.

liz: thank you so much from the battle at capitol hill to the battle on the ground up the border. jonathan hunt is in california for us. jonathan? reporter: good evening. thousands of migrants from the caravan remained just across the border behind me here. in two shelters in tijuana. last night, many of those migrants who still hope to get this side of the border watch the president oval office address despite him referring to it as a humanitarian as well as a security -- that migrants were not happy with much of what they heard. >> we aren't criminals. the three or four examples that might exist don't mean much. and for latin americans, it would be drugs they consuming the u.s. that would make them criminals. >> how to explain in our country is in others, there are deserving and undeserving people good and bad. we left our country and are looking for a better life.

reporter: on this of the border, residents in cities like san diego face the realities of immigration, legal and illegal every day. there are several thousand migrants in the san diego area right now. waiting for the asylum process is to be complete. in the meantime they need food, water and shelter. their situation was discussed at an emotional meeting at the san diego county board of supervisors last night. listen again. >> we are usa we need to help our people first. i think they need to be helped but to ask the county for money if they want to do it, these people that come to their homes. >> there putting in effort to provide compassion and humanity to those here seeking refuge. it is refreshing. reporter: and that in a nutshell, is the immigration debate nationally. america first or compassion for those less fortunate than us.

liz: let's get to your money. stocks closing higher. after the president walked out of the meeting, we have more from the new york stock exchange. the nasdaq is higher but almost a rally not to be in the last hour of trading p republicans coming to talk about a meeting with democratic leadership and the president in which the president walked out in anger. why? because of a lack of ability to come to a conclusion on the wall. and the budget. remember, the budget and the fact the government is not being funded right now, the exchange commission is close which means no ipos here which is a big deal. stocks higher on the dow going higher. the big trade earlier in the day, apple higher.

-- a partnership with sirius xm and home depot raising a price target on the stock. a good day for stocks. we will keep an eye on it. liz: thank you. officials this week nine of them talking about interest rates. that is affecting the market big time. not really the government shut down. last night nancy pelosi and chuck schumer said they support border security but what do they really mean? here's what they talked about last night. we can build infrastructure, we can install new technology. cars and trucks, higher personnel, we can have more personal at the border. are these things already in operation at the border? problems still exist. we bring in our guests.

amber, their virtual drones, virtual walls, and mortgage agents and nothing is stopping the influx of illegals, human traffickers and drug smugglers. your take? >> exactly. democrats saying they support border security but supporting drones and other technological measures that already existed the board is just a way to try to appeal to the american people to act like they are trying to solve the problem. border patrol agents have directly requested a wall and specifically, the steel slabs the president has been talking about recently. they want that for a multitude of reasons. whether funneling illegal immigrants to reports of entries so that they can be more easily detained or whether it is preventing people like the ones in the migrant caravan who tried to rush the border all at once and make their way past border agents. it is for the safety of border agents and to reduce illegal

immigration. liz: the border patrol guys keep saying at the border wall, and needs fixing, it needs repair, it needs updating. we have bill and hillary clinton saying a will this effect appear to have barack obama saying a barrier or wall is effective. we had chuck schumer saying that. why are they saying it is ineffective now? >> there saying they are rejecting donald trumps proposal to buy a wall across 2000 miles. about one third of that 700 miles -- liz: i don't think -- [multiple speakers] >> he talked about spitting -- liz: he is not talking about that now. here's the thing. back in i think 2013, there were democrats for 8 billion for the wall, chuck schumer and january of last year, democrats say yes to 25 billion. now, there saying just 1.6 billion. the president literally walked out of a meeting today and in

frustration. here is the president responded to a reporter. talking about what's going on at the border. let's listen to the sound bite. >> why not sign the other bills? the workers -- >> do you think i should do that? do you think i should do that, john? better watch your one-sided reporting. if you were in my position you would do that? >> i am not your position i'm asking you -- >> i'm asking would you do that my position? if you would do that you should never be in this position. because you would never get anything done. liz: we are going to see chris, saying maybe it is time to listen to the border patrol guys. they know what they need at the border. >> returns like the president was right in that exchange because he said later that the reason he ended up walking out of the meeting because he asked democrat straight up if i reopen these portions of the government like you have requested, will you support a border wall? and they said no. so it makes no logical or political sense for the

president to do that because he loses any leverage he has in order to get democrats to support real border security, not the kind that they are saying they support which is -- >> from acting homeland security secretary saying border fences -- crimes significantly drop.this whole conversation has been warped and distorted. basically the mainstream media is saying that this is a racist wall. but it is all about racism. you know, there are many minorities in law enforcement on the border patrol saying we need help, this works. so this feels like a disconnect going on. >> let's ãto put almost $6 billion into a border wall, is

like in this day and age saying we are going to put a million t.v. antennas on top of buildings across the u.s. to prove television reception in the age of the internet. we need to use advanced technology, we need to use sensors, we need technology. [multiple speakers] >> illegal border crossings have gone down from 1.6 million to 400,000. a 75 percent decline. can use technology to better intercept people then investing in a steel fence across the border. liz: you're making good points is about public seizure of private land. the fact that the numbers have dropped to 400,000 or so, it is still a lot of people trying to cross.

i mean there's a lot of illegals trying to cross, still. >> right, their detainer close to 2000 people a day at the border. trying to cross illegally. part of the reason why numbers have gone down was because the united states is recovering from a recession. so there was less economic incentive for illegal immigrants to come across the border. not to mention the fact that there is a record number of families being detained at the border right now. liz: we are humanitarian as a country, we want to take care refugees and immigrants but do illegally. that is what the immigrant community is saying too. >> is on fire, what are you talking about? >> prior to now. liz: you guys will be back in just a bit. we love having the debate. now let's get to what's going on in france. it is in the ninth week of riots, protests they are kicked off by higher fuel taxes. hitting the middle class hard. that is what this would do his will. new middle-class tax hikes to pay for them. so why democrats like kamala harris cheering them on winter voters with the effective rates

of 90 percent california? we'll talk about that. the first, potential the biggest, most expensive in history. were talking $136 billion man. jeff bezos. he and his wife are splitting. this divorce is a whopper. we will break it down. stay with us.

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speaker pelosi hates president trump more than she supports border security. liz: that was louisiana republican senator, john kennedy saying everyone in d.c. knows that nancy pelosi cares more about stopping donald trump that about border security. wow, this is heavy. this is politics full on peer democrats including chuck schumer and nancy pelosi approved $1 billion for the board in 2013. democrats including chuck schumer, were all okay with $25 billion for the border wall since january of last year. both democrats in 2008 and 2009 talked about the need to fund the border wall and secure it. here are the choices. either nancy pelosi and the democrats given. the president gives in.or he declares a national emergency to get military funding to

build parts of the wall he says need refurbishing. join amino fox contributor, fred barnes. to have that right? >> i think you have that right. i think what would have to happen if the president does not declare an emergency and i suspect he won't. but you will have to somehow get the democrats and trump to vote one way or another the same time while denying they are not caving. but the truth is, i think senator kennedy from louisiana who is a very smart guy by the way, is exactly right. this is aimed at donald trump. what if marco rubio had been elected president? or jeb bush? we would not have at the same situation if they want to wall. then it could have been worked out but they would not have been this blanket statement by nancy pelosi. she has now said many times that whatever the circumstances, i don't care what it is. i am paraphrasing here, i don't

care what it is, i will not support a wall. and you know there is this article in the background that fear, illegitimate fear, the base of the democratic party, which has shifted so far to the left, will bail if she gives into donald trump on the wall. liz: here is the president talking about a national emergency.this is why the feeling of d.c. is that it could happen. he's frustrated. listen. >> i think we might work a deal out. if we don't, i may go that route. i have the absolute right to do a national emergency for one. liz: and then there is the media criticizing sarah sanders for -- for implying all terrorists are coming in the us across the border. i mean, is this nitpicking? because the homeland security saying, 2500 and more people on the terror watch list or

stopped trying to get into the us. in 2017 from all points of entry. land, the sea or the air. that's the number. >> i agree! and the most threatening thing is, what will happen if there were more caravans? and i think if the will is rejected, we are going to see more and more caravans. we know the central american companies do nothing to stop them. mexico has helped a little but -- and that really is a threat we have not seen before. you know, we have not seen large groups of people actually charging to get through in san diego and other places. to get in the country. illegally! so this is a bigger threat. liz: fred, we are showing images of thousands. hundreds of people trying to get in.

i'm not sure how this is not a crisis. quick final word. >> a crisis, yes. but maybe not an emergency. and it is going to get worse before it gets better, that's for sure. liz: fred barnes, good to see you. come back soon. >> you're welcome. liz: this could be the most expensive divorce and history. the equivalent of brad pitt and angelina jolie. that's how much attention it's getting. amazon jeff bezos ranked at the top of the worlds riches. announcing that he and his wife of 25 years, mckenzie, they are divorcing amicably. therefore my children, is the founder of amazon, a net worth of hundred $36 billion. he also owns rocketship maker blue origin and the "washington post". no word yet of a prenup. a divorce attorney not involved in the case, a lot about this divorce. >> it sure is! we have the richest man in the world about to be second fiddle to bill gates. he will lose half of his fortune. liz: do you think he really will lose half?

>> yes. from what i understand, there is no prenuptial agreement. he is getting divorced in the state of washington, it is a community property state. he got married one year before he founded amazon. so his wife got in under the wire. the question is not how much, the question is, how will it be paid? liz: that is an interesting point. and you know he owns 60 percent of amazon for that's about 74 million shares. no sec filing yet. indicating a change in a stake in amazon but they own a lot of real estate too. it is economical divorce, maybe mckenzie is saying, i will agree not to take half. what do you think? >> well, you know, they both have one common goal besides the kids. to preserve the golden goose. and that golden goose is amazon. they will not deep feather --

de-feather that thing. he is the steve jobs of amazon! there are different ways of dividing the pie. you know, she can get some of the amazon stock or he gives her other stock or real estate. there's other ways to do it. liz: you have a great take on that, good insight. thank you very much for joining us. very good insight. >> thank you! liz: another recall over faulty takata airbags. remember that? this time to announcing 1.7 million cars worldwide, under recall. potentially, faulty airbag insulatorsmade by takata . includes 1.3 million toyota vehicles in the us.remember the prior recall on the airbag problem? at least 23 deaths linked to

the faulty airbag situation be no indication anyone was harmed in this new round. do you have a samsung galaxy? did you try to get rid of facebook on it? when everyone else in the frustration. users are finding that they are unable, they cannot get rid of facebook app on their samsung phones. what's going on? it came preloaded with the facebook app already installed there. now the users on some funds are worried about privacy. remember facebook said, disable the app it will stop us from using your data or collecting it. fat chance if you have a samsung phone. we will cover that for you. now, did you see this one? harvesting and selling your location data. look at this. three big phone companies stand accused of doing it too. we're talking t-mobile, at&t and sprint. now they stand accused of

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breaking news. reuters reporting -- will pay fines of $300 million. this is by sources familiar with the case. it ended at 2 and a half percent today that is being put to rest. we will stay on it for you. not tax pros increasingly calling out kamala harris. she is talking about ocasio-cortez and taxes. >> you know, i think that she

is challenging the status quo. i think it's fantastic. liz: okay kamala harris received nearly 90 percent effective tax rates and the dishonesty is this.if you want a eurostyle welfare system like socialist want. you need eurostyle transferred to paper. everyone says that. that means the riots happening in france, the fear that could happen here. france is in its ninth straight week of protest. what started there? fuel taxes on middle and lower class. it got them out on the streets. now they are threatening to make a run in the banks.let's bring in our guest, what is your take? >> i have to say that you know, europe is been drowning in

taxes for many decades. france is the perfect example that. they did in fact in a few years ago, introduced a wealth tax of 90 percent. a millionaires tax. and this led to the french entrepreneurs fleeing the country. many of them actually went to great britain where the tax rates are far lower. the present french administration removed that but still the overall tax rate in france is incredibly high.and the bottom line is that socialist big government doesn't work. and we have seen that multiple european countries and we have over the course of many years in france, seen literally hundreds of thousands of france best and brightest people fleeing the country. refugees moving primarily to the united kingdom but also going to lower tax like switzerland for example. socialism has been poisonous and deadly in europe. you don't want socialism here

in the united states. liz: is at your fear? when you watch what they are now talking about? here's the thing, this is according to tax data, evaluates data, top 20 percent in the u.s. already pay for nearly 90 percent of all federal income tax revenue.so the policies they want would hit the middle class. you cannot get blood from a stone.does it concern you hear the rhetoric coming out of the democrats now? >> i think that any -- any of government in the united states is absolutely disastrous. and socialist policies in europe have been damaging and there's a reason why united states has been far more successful than europe as a whole in terms of economic brute and job creation for example. it's because of lower taxes here in the united states. it is the free market policies. when you implement the kinds of highly risky, big government

high tax policies that you've seen all over europe, the end result is high levels of unemployment. extremely high levels of youth and employment that you see in countries such as spain and france for example.you see an anti-entrepreneurial culture in existence and at the end of the day, basically, people lose out. they decide to move elsewhere. liz: or they riot on the streets. >> or use the riots on the street in the french cities. you know socialism really means the death of economic freedom and liberty. and it would be hugely damaging for the united states to implement these kinds of european policies. liz: a big wake-up call needed. nile gardiner giving to the democrats. thank you, come back soon. >> thank you. liz: coming up, they say democrats increasingly ignore them. we are bringing in a mother.

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president, the president is wrong. let's listen to what they are saying. watch.>> this exerciser everybody, networks, the democrats, everyone is acting as if he is fit. and taking part in this colossal waste of time, which would be this presidency. instead of looking at it. and saying, this person is not fit to lead. and acting on that fact. i'm not sure why it's not happening. liz: let's bring back our power panel. it is interesting that cuomo is saying listen to the border guys. but the media is like, they speak in one voice, and use are supposed to all fall in line and not disagree. >> if you have to listen to what chris cuomo said, he said border wall, border security, border fencing has some part to play. certainly in urban areas,

certainly places that makes sense. [multiple speakers] it is not at all with the president is suggesting. he is suggesting as will hurd, who has his district stretch from el paso to san antonio, across the rio grande, the worst way to ensure border security is to build a barrier fence across the entire spectrum of the border. from sea to shining sea. republicans don't want that. liz: he is not saying that pretty same repair was there. >> he's not saying repair at all! liz: yes he is. [multiple speakers] it is true i've read transcripts in detail and clearly you have not read it. but clearly we have read it. and what you're saying is wrong. amber, here is the thing. we get into nitpicking details about what is needed at the border when the border patrol guys are saying time in and timeout for years, since the 90s, there's a problem at the border. >> the national border patrol council surveyed their members

last spring. 89 percent of them said yes, fencing and a physical barrier in some places on the border, yes, it would be very helpful. and the president is not proposing a concrete wall across all 2000 miles of the border. if you look at the proposed planet is informed directly by department of homeland security and border patrol agents who want more fences builtand high traffic areas , concrete walls in places that are prone to flooding and then repairing the existing fences and adding wire. that is his plan. liz: amber and bernard, come back soon. love the fiery passion there. come back. maybe next week we have your. your great together. coming up next, the side saying they are consistently ignored. tonight we listen tovictims of crimes by illegal immigrants. we are talking to the families. up next, and angel mom , she lost her son. he was a police sergeant killed when intoxicated illegal immigrant with an arrest record

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he tied them up like an animal dropped in the field and set him on fire. >> and illegal immigrant going probably hundred and 20 miles an hour. liz: let's have this debate. a real family still suffering after losing loved ones killed by illegal immigrants.the stories are proof positive. why we need tough immigration policies. think about the anguish here. the torture of thinking, my loved one could still be here if not for the d.c. bickering nonsense and refusal to secure the borders.creating chaos. it is the kind of sorrow that would drop anyone to their knees. joininganother mother and a fighter . she doesn't want anyone to suffer the way she has. we are welcoming mary ann mendoza. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you for having me.

liz: what happened to your son? >> he was killed on his way home may 4, 2014 by repeat criminal illegal alien driving the wrong way and slammed head-on into my son. liz: they say there's no border crisis. watch. >> president trump must stop holding people hostage. stop manufacturing a crisis. >> really i believe it is a manufactured crisis. >> the ministration calling the situation at the southern border, a crisis. it is debatable at best. >> have got to say, how stupid are americans who still believe there is a crisis at the southern border. liz: your reaction? >> how stupid are you that you're not admitting there is. i have a police report and i have a gravesite to go visit as do tens of thousands of other americans in this country. there are hundreds of thousands of their fellow americans who are dealing with identity theft

and rape and assault. things that these people do not want to admit. and i want to tell nancy pelosi, just because you do not want to acknowledge we exist, does not mean you're telling the truth. we are the truth tellers. and just because you don't want donald trump to get his wall and fulfill his biggest campaign promise, does not mean you will win. the american people will win the fight.liz: self myers tweet lesson about the president's address. he's getting criticized for saying quote - basically, is this oval office svu? basically don't playing the situation you and other families are suffering through. what is your reaction there? >> i tweeted him back and say what you have angel families on and let us tell you the reality of what's really happening in your country. and let's see how he spends that. of course the mainstream media will never have us on. you know besides fox news and fox business channel. they will not have us on

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presidency and our punishment. liz: that's senator graham to wins stand up open fight for the border wall or we deserve to love. tom reid, great to see you sir. this is really on republican leadership like mitch mcconnell, the ball is in their court. what was your reaction to senator graham? >> i appreciate it. we're here in the reality of the government shutdown and standing firm on the issue of border security and i think what he articulated a what we're fighting for. we're trying to do the work for the american people. 's not about punishing republicans or democrats. it's about listening to the mary ann mendozas. this is an opportunity to lead and solve problems. liz: this is a nonpartisan, nonpolitical issue being put through the sieve of politics.

would you support the president declaring the border is national emergency? >> i believe the president has a legitimate argument. we in congress need to do our job and we should do this together, as democrats and republicans to say look, you can fix not only the border and keep us safe and secure. maybe there's other issues like lindsey graham is talking about, taking care of daca, taking care of the other folks caught up in the broken immigration policy. now is the time to lead and get it done. liz: are you hearing democrats would come to the table if there is a daca deal? is that how we get both sides to the table? >> that's the beginning of the contours of a deal that can bring people together. and enough of party extremism, controlling where we go on these issues and blocking leadership in on the republican and democrat side. now is the time to listen to the sound majority of americans saying look, there's a problem at the border. let's fix it, keep our american citizens safe and then solve these other problems at the same

time. a win for everyone. liz: the voters are saying hey, wait, democrats like chuck schumer, you wrr for 8 billion in 2013, for 25 billion in january of last year. what changed? >> the politics that's all that has changed in this conversation. it's all about politics of an extreme base and positioning for 2020. that's the shame of this. people are getting lost and that is a shame and shame on the leaders here for not answering the call. liz: are we going to have a shutdown by the time of the state of the union and the president can say to the chambers, get a deal? >> i don't think so. i think we're to the height of the political theater. chuck is not going out. as you see other consequences of this shutdown situation. i think it's politically untenable for this to last much longer. liz: congress mapp tom reecongrh

the prediction it could end soon. lou dobbs is next here on the fox business network. have a great evening. lou: good evening, everybody. president trump standing strong securing the u.s.-mexican border remains his top priority, ending the national security crisis. the president saying once again he may declare a national emergency if necessary to secure our border with mexico. >> i have the absolute right to do national emergency if i want. my threshold will be if i can't make a deal with people that are unreasonable. we can all play games, but a wall is a necessity. all of the other things, the sensors and the drones, it's all wonderful to have and it works well but only if you have the wall. if