shutdown. at least one. and in fact, it will be blamed on somebody.if the democrats or republicans. no? >> figures course it doesn't happen! that is what we are hoping.as we go home and eat cheese. >> it will be happening. >> that does it for bulls and bears. thank you for watching. we hope to see you back here tomorrow same time, same place. >> the national emergency is going to congress. a ready went through congress. if you read it, it is so clear, it is so perfect. i would rather not do it. not for any particular reason other than it should be easy to get approved through congress. the same people that are holding it up. they have approved it many times before. these people approved it just a few years ago. now all of a sudden they are not. the reason they're not is because of me, i hate to say.

>> it is crunch time. this shutdown hitting day 20. president trump at this hour flying back to washington after getting an update on the border and the crisis there. he is canceling his trip to davos. expectations that he will declare a national emergency to reopen the government and redirect pentagon funding for the wall. the new migrant caravan is traveling from honduras. can he do it? it looks like the answer is yes. we have a constitutional expert who will make the case. and we will explain how the details of this fight, we will break it down for you. how president trump could win possibly at the supreme court. we are cut into all of -- this is increasingly looking like a fake fight. we will show you how president obama, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and more democrats once sounded just like donald trump saying yes, this is a quote - humanitarian crisis. trump also has another

formidable weapon he could use. it is not just a national emergency.we are going to explain. follow from the democrats and the president as he declares an emergency. nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and the democrats likely will not get a daca dreamer deal. that is a big fail. tonight, i debate all of this with a daca dreamer who says stop it democrats, i am a daca treatment. give money to trump to buy the wall we need the wall. i will also ask about the angel moms, dads and loved ones that have lost family members to criminal illegals. this looks like it may be the longest shutdown in history but still on this saturday. both sides want to avoid it and more on your money. rising fears, brynn may crash out of the eu without a decent trade deal. that could hit the market here. theresa may in trouble. jeremy corbyn wants to delay brexit and provide time to challenge theresa may in a general election.

conservatives going toward jeremy corbyn. now this. a new twist in the jeff bezos divorce saga. will try to get to the question, will his split with his wife forced him to split his amazon shares with his ex-wife as adultery charges loom we met we dig into what all of this means for amazon. trading lower today. thank you for joining us, "the evening edit" starts right now.♪ ♪ [music] liz: we are coming out of dc. it is looking more likely the president will make good on his threat to declare a national emergency at the border. there is no developments right now but it is the language we are hearing coming out of dc. he is also doubling down that mexico will indirectly pay for

the wall through the trade deal. the president getting criticism on that one. let's get to edward lawrence live at the white house with more. reporter: liz, the president just tweeting minutes ago actually, a video of himself with border agents saying, the wall will be with built one way or another. he was there for a roundtable discussion for folks on the ground in mcallen, texas. the president wanted to know what this looks like, the situation he calls a crisis. this could be used as justification for the emergency declaration. the president floated the idea of emergency declaration to divert money to build a wall. >> if we declare a national emergency, we have a tremendous amount of funds. tremendous!if we want to do that. if we want to go that route. again, there is no reason why we cannot come to a deal. reporter: infect usa today report and the pentagon is now looking at options to build the wall. funding could be used, if the

army corps of engineers would do that. we are seeing both sides duck into their position. no memo whatsoever. democrats still sticking to that point that they want to see government reopened totally before they will talk about border funding or a border wall. democrats trying to turn public sentiment against the president. after some 800,000 federal workers will not receive a paycheck on friday.>> i said to him yesterday, these people cannot go to their fathers. to cover their payments, their cost. can you? can any of you if this happened to you? if you can, good luck, that is wonderful for you. but that does not speak for most families. reporter: the houses passing bills one at a time to fund the government. they have already passed the agricultural bill. mitch mcconnell says if it will

not be voted on is just a waste of time. because of the impasse the president says now today, he will not go to davos. he will skip the world economic forum. tweeting basically because the democrats refused negotiate he will cancel his trip to davos. this is truly a stalemate. liz: thank you for your reporting. vice president mike pence also doubling down today in a visit to capitol hill. no wall, no deal. that is what he said. we have this part of the story. chad? reporter: thank you for having me. mike pence was here. i asked him about the idea of using executive authority about declaring emergency powers. and if he would get pushback from republicans. remember they used to pushback on president obama when they thought he went too far. and he really did not answer my question directly. meantime, the house of representatives trying to reopen parts of the federal government.the department of agriculture, the vote was 243 ã

183. i should point out 10 republicans broke ranks to vote in favor of the bill alongside democrats. then they passed a bill for transportation and housing programs. the vote was 244 ã188. and lindsey graham, has been trying to work out some kind of agreement, maybe have little border will funding and work out with the grand bargain or immigration may be daca. that deal we are told this afternoon was essentially killed by none other than president trump. this is something that lindsey graham was trying to work behind the scenes. i asked him about this earlier and he thought nancy pelosi, the house speaker, had been dealt out of the equation. his words there, but at the end of that it was president trump that dug out lindsey graham. lindsey graham says he's never been more depressed in his life on the situation. he thinks they are really stuck.

marco rubio, indicates the president trump and chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, the problem is right now elizabeth, everyone things there waiting at the end of the day, no one knows how to get out of this. liz: wow! you're making news right there, chad. this indicates likely, the president will declare a national emergency. right? reporter: we have to vice president about that directly. he said he has not made the announcement yet. we tried to pin him down and he just wouldn't quite take the bait. when i talked to republican members of congress from both sides of capital, house and senate, they are very concerned about having their article 1 of the constitution prerogatives taken away. members of congress don't like that. liz: we will debate that next. great to see you. >> thank you. liz: and will also gets the story that michael cohen will be testifying february 7. investors on edge. will jeff bezos loses control and shares on amazon and divorce with his wife. closing down -- text messages

surfaced from jeff bezos to a woman that he is having an affair with. that could exacerbate a divorce fight. he is now embroiled in with his wife of 25 years. her name is mckenzie. they have four children. hillary has more. reporter: this is on track to be the most expensive divorce in history. president trump today actually wishing the couple luck in these negotiations. calling it quote - a beauty. the news though has shareholders not feeling like it is too beautiful embracing for changes that a settlement could have on the company , amazon, because they reporting he did not have a prenuptial agreement and that the couple filed for divorce in washington state. washington state is a community property state where assets are split 50-50. it is not just his personal

wealth at stake. control of his company could be at stake too. right now, his net worth is at $137 billion.he also owns over 60 percent of amazon. he has control of the company but the question is, could that change? mckenzie is entitled to more than $66 billion under this law. and if she opts for a pale, bezos too seller played some of his chairs deleting his ownership of amazon. legal experts i spoke to today say they don't think it's likely to happen. they also own millions of high-end real estate that will need to be divvied up as well. from four multi-million-dollar condos overlooking central park to a mansion in dc.of course 70 million-dollar compound outside of seattle. there is more than just amazon on the line here. or the real estate. he also owns the "washington post" and a space company. liz: thank you so much great to see you. please break down how the president can buy love declare a national emergency to get

military funding already appropriated by congress to build the border wall and stop the shutdown here let's bring in our top constitutional attorney, jenna ellis, great to see you. >> great to see you. liz: let's lay this out for the viewers. this is a court for commit. you will see it here first. two loopholes that the president can use. in 1982 law says construction authority in event of a declaration of a national emergency in support of the use of the armed forces. the president and other presidents have deployed troops at the border. can this be used? >> absolutely it can. and the pushback against president trump declare a national emergency using these funds is that the national emergency act of 1976 was designed to curtail the presidents of 30 to declare national emergencies. importantly, this was not designed to limit the power in all instances. in fact, there are over 135 separate statutory provisions that allow for a declaration of

national emergency and specific use of the presidential authority. and here we do have the appropriated funds that the president can use. also unappropriated. this is something where congress has not clearly defined what it means to have an imminent threat or what the definition of a national emergency means. liz: let's show loophole number two. in a 2016 law, it authorizes the call for the pentagon to look at drug trafficking and organized crime or you can use appropriated funds for the building of roads and fence construction and more along smuggling corridor is. here is the thing, a president, jenna, has done this nearly 5 dozen times. for things like dealing with diamonds imported and a 2009 swine flu epidemic.i mean, that is what we have seen in the past. the fear now is, this could set a dangerous precedent to declare national emergencies for things like climate change.

where do you come down on that? >> we have to understand the national emergencies do happen. and things like drug trafficking, human trafficking, protecting the borders, protecting american families. what is actually more important as terms of the national emergency?we have seen border construction under the military appropriation has been used 18 times.including in the united states. we are ready have precedent for this to say it is going to unleash the floodgates is really just, i'm trying to strike terror to get people to object to the president very clearly laid out. he has the authority, he should do it. human trafficking and drugs are a real problem and he's finally standing up and saying the united states needs to take a moral position on this. liz: the ninth circuit court of appeals in california will likely oversee this initial fight. it covers the area of the country with the border issue. there is another part that the president can use to say yes, i can do this. bill clinton used emergency spending waivers to do things like occupy haiti or to sell

oil to north korea.that was in the 90s. and remember president obama use an executive order to raise minimum wages for federal contractors. i mean that a spending taxpayer money there too. >> absolutely. and when it comes the court system there will be legal challenges. but we have to remember an activist court will decide cases based on whether or not they like the policy and agree with it. that is not what they are designed to do and have the limited vested power under article 3 of the constitution. all they can determine is, does the president have this power? can he do it? not whether he should. that is a political question absolutely prevented prohibited. if the ninth circuit wants to play politics it will end up in supreme court and guess what? we have a conservative majority now. it means they will faithfully apply the original intent of the constitution and say yes,

the president can. that is what he of elections. we elect our leaders to have the powers and implement them. liz: jenna ellis, great to see you. thank you for breaking it down for us. come back soon. >> thank you. liz: we have breaking news. it looks like here's was going on. a congressional aid, according to the dow jones newswire. telling the dow jones at the white house has asked the u.s. army corps of engineers to look into project approved in a bill providing disaster relief for puerto rico, texas, california and florida. to see where funding could be diverted to build a wall along the border of mexico. as we told you, here in the fox business network, we told you early on this was coming.it looks like it is now possibly happening. let's get your money pit all three major at the end of the day higher. the dow up higher, investors not putting on their shoes and running out of the market. wall street basically blowing off the shutdown. it is interested in corporate earnings season. now kicking off. expected to come in a solid double-digit 16 percent growth for the s&p 500 this quarter. twice as many s&p 500 companies are issuing profit warnings. watch out for macy's, kohls,

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lots of big media and democrat critics making whopping errors and mistakes. arguing the president is like talking about a border wall. they are wrong. the proposal sent to congress ask for much more. it's about border security. that is the point he will likely try to use in 2020. let's bring in our trump 2020

board member and we welcome to the show democrat strategist nathan, good to see you. >> thank you for having me. liz: it's about bordersecurity , medicine? >> is overall about security. not just about a wall. i know that's with the media narrative is. there is so much more in this proposal. starting with 75 additional immigration judges.we left fiscal year 18 we had 786,000 cases in immigration courts. more judges to get to the cases and to get them indisposed appear we need to get security as a democrat they keep talking that we need technology.guess what? $675 million was requested for nonintrusive inspection technology. in the request from the president. the 750 border patrol agents and so much more it's about overall security protecting the

american people and fixing the long-standing immigration problem we have that republicans and democrats refuse to fix in congress for dozens of years. liz: nathan, here is a thing, the argument is that the walls do not work. so if walls don't work, do prisoners stay voluntarily inside of prisons? that is not a trick question, i'm just trying to put something out there. go ahead. >> sure. so, look -- at the end of the day there are differences between a federal prison and a border wall along -- liz: is a general principle. i know there's a difference but go ahead. >> basically think we talk about border security, democrats are not opposed to border security. there was a bill that passed in the senate to keep the government open 100 to 0. for him not to send the bill i think is a big mistake. liz: didn't chuck schumer take a daca deal yet last year when they were talking about -- it was chuck schumer that walked

away from it in january of last year. here is a thing, democrats could lose out on daca if he goes ahead with the national emergency. >> to be quite frank, the president trump was to go down the route of declaring a national emergency, that is a pretty scary precedent that i'm not sure they will be happy about. >> there are all sorts of national emergencies. >> i'm looking to the president ocasio-cortez declaring to battle climate change and implement her green new deal. >> this is news for you. here is news for you. ocasio-cortez just got -- forgive me, ocasio-cortez just got rejected from the house ways and means. she's not even getting on that. back to madison. the wall, according to authorities shows that the problem of illegal border crossings dropped 90 percent in san diego and in arizona, texas. the american people are saying, move on. this is a fight that you never should have happened. we saw that the national emergencies recalled for things

like diamonds coming out of sierra leone, come on! >> we've seen them here in the country, we say then work all across the world. and of course we don't put a wall up because we hate the people outside the walls we put up because you want to protect the people inside. this will not only protect us from bad people coming across the border, which is part of that narrative. that they want to keep people out. no, we want to keep bad things of the country. the exact drugs. when we look at the border specifically on the southern border, enough fentanyl was seized at ports of entry to kill the entire country. we are looking at not the point of entry and knockout 24 percent of the population, this is a crisis. liz: we will take up later how the president did say mexico will pay for it. he is trying to dial that back where we will ask about that. that is coming up. madison, nathan, you will be back with us later in the show. thank you for your input.

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liz: welcome back. you're watching the fox business at work. at least eight republican senators started to peel away from president trump and a push to end the shutdown and get the government reopened. so is this a crack in republican unity? have the >> always been there? is a problem for thepresident and the party? we welcome rnc chair, mcdaniel . what is your take, is there unity in the party right now? >> the parties completely needed about our need to secure the border pretty recognize there is a crisis at the

border, a seven claims are up 1700 percent over the past eight years, with 2000 people a day, a day! trying to cross into the country illegally. we know that drugs are coming from the southern border. 90 percent of heroin is coming to the southern border. we have 300 heroin deaths per week. republicans know this. they are united behind our present.lt not just the senators, i was at the senate policy electricity when the president spoke to them and our house numbers but our party, our grassroots, our voters across the country, vehemently support the president and the stance he has taken. liz: there is pain for federal workers, paychecks stop tomorrow, the fda halting food inspections and more. is the president or republicans worried about that? and we've got nearly 3/4 of u.s. workers federal workers, living paycheck to paycheck. >> of course, everyone feels for these workers. and we do not want to see them have to go without their paychecks we understand the

word and it puts on the family. and that is why democrats need to come to the table. everything the president is proposing is common sense. the proposals have come from i.c.e. and cbp agents on the front lines of the border. he is talking about a barrier, humanitarian crisis, the democrats have supported time and time again. chuck schumer voted four times for a barrier. now because it is president trump, they are saying no deal on anything. we are walking away. it is just ridiculous and it is purely partisan.there is compromise their. the president is willing to work with the democrats and they have rebuffed every effort. they have to say whether or not reopening the government and work with the president and taking care of the immigration system that is completely broken. liz: with the media saying the president is court unfit for office. your take on that? >> i just laugh at that. because let's look at what

happened under president trump in the past two years with tax cuts and deregulation. you've seen the economy boost, using 4 million jobs, you seen wages increase, 3.2 percent. you've seen him take on isis, from the military. issue after issue, he has delivered. the economy is doing well, country is booming. we saw the great jobs report in december with 312 jobs, 12,000 jobs added. i just don't understand what democrats are coming from. they've never accepted the results and the will of american people in 2016 when elected president trump. from one day they made a mission not to work with him. now with the new congress they will make a mission to investigate and obstruct and do everything they can to prevent him from doing the good things he's already done. liz: switching gears quickly come michael cohen is set to

testify before congress next month. are you worried about that?>> he's already been convicted of criminal activity that he had in his personal life with tax evasion and other things he did with his personal businesses. he has proven himself to be somebody dishonest. he has lied over and over again and he is desperate. i do not think he has any credibility and i do not think the american people will take anything he says seriously based on his past and his lack of character. liz: ronna mcdaniel, good to see you. come back soon. next up, the president is not the only one saying there's a border crisis. president obama said it, nancy pelosi said it and more. that is coming up. we take it on. plus, largely forgotten, the angel moms and dads. families have lost children to criminals, illegal aliens. coming up, we will put a daca dreamer recipient on the show to talk about that. as you are looking at what's going on at the border as individuals continue to try and cross. stay there, don't go away.

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quick clarification. we just showed a full screen of house republicans peeling away from the present pete also republican senators are saying reopen the government. we will stand that story for you. just a quick clarification there. alice looked at the polls. what they are saying about the immigration debate. look at this fox news poll. more than half opposed building the wall, nearly half favor it. let's bring a kentucky congressman, andy barr. good to see you. >> good to see you, liz. liz: what you think about this? >> i don't think the numbers matter as much as what they are telling the people and us. i think the reason why some americans are confused about the issue were don't support common sense border security measures is because they hear politicians in washington fail

to level with them. and not tell them what the real situation is on the southern border. it is a crisis. it is a crisis on the southern border. how is it not a crisis? last year 17,000 individuals with prior convictions were stop trying to cross into the southern border. 600 criminal migrants confirmed criminal migrants were attempted to breach the southern border. 90 percent of heroin that comes into the country was at the southern border. human trafficking, gangs coming into the country, members of congress took an oath to defend the constitution just last week. and part of the constitution, and elevated in the constitution it is to provide for the common defense and protecting the country from drugs and criminals and human traffickers as part of the oath

of office. liz: okay, congressman, andy barr thank you for coming on. good to see you. >> good to see you.liz: lost in the border wall fight of the angel families that have lost loved ones to criminal illegal crimes. watch. >> joshua went to school one day and unbeknownst to me a classmate asked him for a ride home. his intent was to murder josh for his truck. he brutally beat him. crushed his face and voice box. he beat him in the head with a rock four times until it broke. he strangled him, tortured him, tied him up like an animal dropped him in the field and set him on fire. >> they intoxicated him from behind, going hundred and 20 miles an hour. >> coming in, a daca recipient. good to see you, sir. you support the presidents border wall. is that correct? >> that is correct, yes. i think the president has every right to ask for border security. it is his moral duty to do that. that is when he signed up to be

when he became president. liz: tells a little about your back story. >> yes, i am a daca recipient. i came to the united states when i was one year old. i grew up without a father. i grew up homeless, i grew up undocumented. i grew up in a rough neighborhood but if it wasn't for conservative values, with his faith, family, god you know working hard, standing on your own two feet, i don't think i would be the man i am today. liz: went to college and now you are a taxpaying worker. is that it? >> i am a taxpaying worker. sometimes i play too many taxes but that's another problem. liz: probably why you are talking to us! we opened up the second with a montage of angel families. and we've been covering the story for two years now covering angel families. they feel like democrats ignore them.

we've had people on the show saying you know what, illegal immigrant crime is lower than the rest of the population. we don't treat people and human beings like statistics or rounding errors. what is your take on illegal immigrant crime? >> first of all, my heart goes out to those angel families. i cannot imagine what it's like to lose a loved one and wake up every day and them not be there. i pray for them and i pray for peace. as a man of god my heart truly goes out to them. that is part of the problem. the more we choose not to do anything, the more stories we will have like angel families you know, more stories like families you know, who lose loved ones through the drugs coming from the south of the border. i think it's very important that we all unite together and we put a face to the problem. to the people that are really being affected by congress and and ability to do something. i'm talking about angel

families and families that have lost loved ones through drugs coming down. also government workers.we cannot forget about the government workers.they are not getting a paycheck as well. liz: your terrific, thank you for coming on with your story. come back soon. good luck to you. >> god bless, thank you. liz: next, top democrats claiming there still no crisis at the border. but president obama did, so did nancy pelosi and assorted other democrats. the pentagon nearly letting $28 billion in spending expire and go away. we will determine if that can be spent on the wall and border security. we are taking that up next. i hear it in the background and she's watching too, saying

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democrat party leaders much of the mainstream media arguing there is no crisis of the board. here are some of the voices. >> president trump must stop holding american people hostage. stop manufacturing a crisis. >> really i believe it's a manufactured crisis. quickly ms. trish and calling the situation at the southern border, a crisis. that is debatable at best. >> i got to say, how stupid are americans who still believe

there is a crisis at the southern border! liz: was president obama quote - stupid when he said just that in 2014? watch. >> we now have an actually monetary crisis on the border. that only underscores the need to drop the politics and fix our immigration system once and for all. liz: let's bring in a fox news political contributor, tammy bruce. good to see you. >> great to be here. spoon is chuck schumer stupid? is nancy pelosi stupid? they said in the past democrats have said is a crisis, are they all stupid? >> no. i mean, i think they know there's a problem and they did not expect anything to be done about it. because they like chaos and victimhood. the problem they have now is that we were president that will act. now suddenly, you have got schumer and pelosi the other night looking shocked with

their hostages because they're finally being challenged by someone who means business. it is real now. i would also say when it comes to the crisis, we remember a few weeks ago democrats, all americans were shocked and outraged to the deaths of two children. i would consider and suggest that children are still getting sick at the border. people are moving through the customs border patrol saying there moving through with illnesses that do not happen overnight. tuberculosis, pneumonia, other issues that take time like the flu to develop. these are people living homesick, getting sicker in the process. that is a crisis, those individuals are dying. when democrats realize that being concerned about dying children wasn't going to help them, they certainly don't think it's a crisis anymore. we still think it's a crisis. it still needs to be resolved in the american people, they

say dumb things when is not a crisis when effect we have direct experience that it is. liz: the media and democrats acknowledge the crisis under obama.now they are not. here's the border patrol brief with president trump saying the whole thing, stand tall, this is a crisis. so he is saying that too. you know, so we have beto saying that -- >> and you have them saying there is no crisis because there was a wall there. there been efforts to build barriers. this is one of the things the president talked about. where there are four separate sections of berries, sex trafficking has gone down 90 percent plus. it has been mitigated.we want to do it across the board. it has to be done. we have to complete it. liz: but they are talking like miraculously these numbers came down. on their own accord. >> no, it didn't. and i think that is the important thing to discuss. the fact that some action has

been taken. we know that it works and we want to do more of that. the fact is, the american people were not waiting for the news to tell us whether or not there is a crisis. we know about the drug crisis, we know but the illnesses, we know about crime. we know it and we want it dealt with.spoon good to see you tammy bruce. thank you for coming on. coming up, general jack keane makes a security case for the wall. we will be back. stay there. it was here.

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liz: r. in and around the green rooms and fox, we have had multiple border patrol authorities here. and i have not encountered a single one who doesn't have strong views that some kind of barrier is absolutely essential to slow down the penetrators so they can actually apprehend them. and it's worked in san diego where it's reduced over 90% of those penetrations. it's a major defensor. i think the president is motivated by one thing only and that's to protect the sochty of this country dz that's general jack keane making the case that president trump is motivated by protecting the country with border security and the wall. nathan, what did you think of the general's point there? >> like i said before, democrats are no opposed to border security. there are other ways to secure the border other than building a wall and seizing private property from land owners in texas. that's fonl wa the only way thes

going to be built is by eminent domain. >> two thirds of it is owned by the private sector. madison, the general pointing out that the wall dropped illegal crossing by more than 90% in texas, and arizona. what's your take? >> as i said earlier in the show, walls work, we've seen them work in our country and across the world. they work. the countries at risk need to make sure we're protected. the president ice motivation is securing the american people, making sure that etch and every one of us is safe. it's about what and who is coming in and out of the country to protect drugs coming in to liz: people.eem. liz: what do you think the

outcome is going to be if the president declares a national emergency. >> any time a future president, no matter who it may be doesn't get what they want through congress, this is setting the precedent that they can create a national emergency to get what they want. that is not in line with the constitution. liz: we've had national emergencies over swine flu, bill clinton used emergency waivers to do emergency spending to occupy and help out haiti and also getting oil to north korea. there has been precedent already in the past, madison. >> right. eni understand his concern. we never want to set a precedent that isn't right and we're calling national emergencies for any reason at any time. that's not what's happening here. i would argue that's maybe happened in the past but it's not happening today. we need to make sure we're protected with the drugs coming across the border to wipe out our population, that's a crisis.

liz: thank you both of you for coming on. and thank you for having us in your homes and thank you for watching. qut low dobbs "i"lou dobbs" is e on the fox business network. have a good evening. lou: good evening, everybody. president trump today at the mexican border in texas. there to talk about the illegal immigration and border security crisis and during his visit the president making it clear once again if need for that wall, why construction on that wall must begin and begin immediately. >> they koim flew the border and they go out through our nation. you'll have crime in iowa, you'll have crime in new hampshire. you'll have crime in new york. you'll have crime in places you know you don't associate with the border but it comes through the border. all i can tell you is i feel very badly for people who have family members who