move this confirmation right along. we'll see how that works. congressman matt gaetz and jim jordan among our guests tomorrow. good night from new york. trish: you are looking at fresh pictures of yet another caravan come together up s., forming in honduras. making its way towards our southern border. in just hours the caravan swelled from 500 to 2,000-plus migrants. president trump warning about it while the democrats refuse to acknowledge the crisis. not even bothering to show up at the president's conference

today. our vice president just got off the phone with the next president of venezuela. and president trump's new pick for attorney general william barr in the hot seat. barr defending his 19-page memo where he called mueller's probe fatally ill-conceived. "trish regan primetime" begins right now. breaking right now. president trump's pick for attorney general sparring with senators on capitol hill defending a memo he wrote criticizing mueller's russia probe calling it fatally

conceived. >> many said it looked like a job application. >> that's ludicrous. if i wanted the job and was going after the job, there are many more direct ways of me bringing myself to the president's attention than writing an 18-page legal memorandum. trish: how could anyone actually think it was a good idea to go down this whole mueller path to begin with? we have the fbi conducting a counter intelligence operation to determine whether donald trump is a russian agent. never mind obama was the one caught on an open mic telling the russians he would have quote more flexibility with them once he got through his election. of course, medvedev said great,

i'll convey that to vladimir. he followed through by refusing to take a stand when putin ran a territorial land grab in the ukraine. if you are going to call out one president a russian, i don't know why you wouldn't call out the other. meanwhile the fbi was getting a fisa warrant using a dossier written up in opposition research paid for by a research firm hired by hillary clinton's campaign. and somehow the fbi treats it as gospel? that's wild. of course, william bar should express that. i have no problem with him saying now nutty this whole

thing has been. we talked about this before. it's pretty wild. there are new wrinkles of course because we are suspecting the president was a russian agent all along. which like i said, you can't make this stuff up. but let's get back to william barr what can you tell us about that. >> the shoe on the other foot test is a good one. the 19-page memo is a highly technical legalistic analysis of one portion of a particular statute. to say he was criticizing the entire probe is absurd and ridiculous. point is the shoe on the other foot. when major fbi people write

express intent text messages while they are at work, they are entitled to their opinions. trish: it's so hypocritical. i think that's the whole problem i have with this. and we saw that on display today. >> when i read that memo today, i thought to myself. this is being sensationalized. there are certain pieces being launched out of the memo that are not really true and are just used for fodder to go into this hearing against barr. but he held his own today. and i was impressed by the fact he said he was appalled by the text messages and he wants to look into the fisa warrant. trish: you have james comey saying there was no bias at the fbi. we had an important interview.

we broke a lot of news in terms of this mueller investigation. stay with that. we now know mueller who has been targeting conservative author jerome corsi. he and his wife here here exclusively on "trish regan primetime," and they revealed jerome's stepson, man caps son, is now being called to testify before mueller's grand jury. so the stepson has been woven into this. i want you to hear what they said as his parents. you expressed to me they were surveilling family members answer they knocked on your son's door and now it looks like he's getting called in to testify there at that grand jury. what is it you think they are asking and what is it you think that they believe happened? >> i think they think andrew was

conspiring with me as my aide, my computer expert to destroy evidence. they are determined to find any crime they can find and make up a crime. they are investigating every aspect of our lives, including our families. monica has been upset this entire weekend because she is worried her son is going to go to prison now. trish: that was monica's first television interview. and she doesn't like the limelight. but she is in a position where her husband and son are being targeted. she'd told me off camera but off record that they will try and force her here. they will try to force her to choose between her son and her husband. and my question to you guys, former federal prosecutor that you are, is that something you normally do? >> i told you when i came on

after jerome corsi and he was complaining they are bullying him. and i said that goes on. but that's why you have defense lawyers in the room. but now this idea of family members, we see that in tax cases because you have returns filed jointly. here is a common tactic. i want to be fair. it could be categorized as bullying. but there are concerns about why certain emails are gone. >> i'm not a technical person. the walls right here on set. so has anyone, the fbi, have they asked for this? he said no. >> the concern is the scope of this investigation has gone so far beyond what it was supposed to be. and are there other avenues the

fbi could pursue without the subpoena to his step son? and the answer is yes there could be. from my perspective as a defense attorney for many years, the fbi does use tactics by putting pressure on family members or other people important to their target. so that's not unheard of. >> thank you so much. so here is the question. what does president trump's choice of william bar as his next attorney general say if anything about his confidence in the mueller probe? we are asking presidential historian doug wead that question. you think this shows the president is super confident in how it's going to turn out. why? >> i worked with william barr. he's a person of integrity. he's a lawyer's lawyer.

he's absolutely professional. he cannot be bent. there is no way donald trump would appoint him attorney general unless donald trump knew he had nothing to fear. this is not an appointment like loretta lynch or eric holder, a buddy, do me a favor. this is someone to clean up the fbi and the justice department. it speaks volumes about how the president must be feel being his own situation. trish: you brought up loretta lynch and eric holder. they were tremendously loyal to president obama, and in some ways that loyalty -- i think we heard james comey actually say they were able to take advantage of certain players they were trying to target because there was no eric holder there initially when the white house term began.

>> yeah. trish: a political player there as a guard dog. >> a person who can be politically bent. william barr signals today, he said i will not be bullied into doing something wrong. he named the three powshs. the lead to powers were the media, the congress and the president. he said editorial board, the congress or the president. democrats may want an attorney general who can be corrupt or bent by powerful media pressure and stories for their own purposes. so this is telling me, donald trump is the guy that's going to clean it up and do it right. i wish the democrats when they are in power would appoint people like william bar to run the justice department.

we would clean up all of this mess and it would be running the country the way it should be run. trish: i worry we are getting to the point where we are turning into an ungovernor vernable mess. a new migrant caravan 2,000 strong and growing has just departed honduras and is heading for our southern border at this very minute. but democrats say this isn't real. it's not a real problem. that's real video from honduras with real people. i will point out that this is not what they used to say. they are changing their tune. we have proof. the women's march claims it's against all bigotry and discrimination as every single one of us should be. yet why are some leaders of this movement refusing to condemn the

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trish: brand-new video this evening of the newest caravan heading our way from honduras. it has grown in just hours from 500 people to 2,000 plus. it keeps picking up more migrants on the way. this is not about us not wanting to welcome immigrants. i will say that and say it again. you know what the left needs to get over that talking points. america will else welcome immigrants who want to come here the right way and contribute to society. that's what we need. we want them. but this, this is the wrong way. and it's not very heartening to see people who allegedly want to come here to become americans carrying flags like that from

their own country. what's the significance of that? wouldn't you want to show your good intention? wave an american flag? the democrats say none of this is real. when the president attempted to break the shutdown stalemate with a bipartisan meeting, they didn't even bother to show up. they say they are open to negotiation but their actions certainly don't indicate that. if you are worried, you might actually go to the meeting. joining me, deneen borelli and scott bolton. why did no democrat go to the meeting the president was holding a bipartisan meeting to find a way to end this shutdown? >> because there is no way around the shutdown as long as the wall is on the table it's hard headed to continue to negotiate with someone that

wants the wall. the democrats aren't giving to it them. they can put border security on the table. but the what else impractical and ineffective and the democrats are probably tired of talking about the same old thing. trish: historically, it's very practical. i need only to look at israel to see an example of a wall that works. there was a time when even hillary clinton liked the idea of what did she call it, a fence? we have proof of what they once thought about border security. here is the tape. >> it's wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in our recent years and we must do more to stop it. >> we simply cannot allow people to pour into the united states,

undocumented, unchecked. >> we don't want to do anything to encourage more illegal immigration into this country. >> the american people are fund amount alley pro legal immigration and anti-illegal immigration. we'll only pass comprehensive reform when we recognize this fundamental concept. trish: i have been playing that sound bite every day since the shutdown. when democrats sit there and say they don't want a wall, they don't want increased border security and they would like open borders much -- of some kind. deneen, what's happened? >> thanks so much for showing those videos. the democrats of course would want to ignore those as well it's troubling that we have democrat leaders in our country

who are flat out ignoring this crisis happening on our border. this influx of illegal people who want to come to america. they need to come here the right way. but clearly i understand the democrats' priorities are not for the safety and security of americans because if it were they would have been to that meeting today with president trump. or they would not have been in puerto rico this past weekend work on their tan with lobbyists. trish: deneen brings up an important point. many americans feel the democrats don't care enough about america right now. what do you say in response? >> that's not true. if you look at the data and the points, what do you call it, the polling that was done, 60-70% believe the democrats are right on this and the republicans are on the shutdown.

-- own the shutdown. the issue of whether democrats want border security. of course, they do. those clips don't bother me because in those clips you didn't see people talking about a border wall that will stop anything. what do you think would happen if there was a wall there. they will turn around and say we can't get in, let's walk other way? they will go to a legal port of entry. trish: it's not just the wall. you have increased security. ' we have authorized the use of troops until this fall, until september. so it doesn't need to simply can a wall. but it's i am bollic of something. maybe sends a message which would be important to send when you are putting women and

children in harm's way, encouraging them to make a trek to nowhere because we are not going to let them in. or they are here and they wind up here illegally. >> i don't get the left's fixation about the word wall. but the numbers don't lie. 90% of the effectiveness in yuma and other parts of our borders are 90% effective to keep illegal people out of our country. whether it's people on the ground or border patrol, a wall, a fence, with it's a multi-level support system for the safety and security of americans. trish: we'll leave it there. coming up. this is a story we have been following closely on "trish regan primetime." exactly one month ago yesterday i reported exclusively that

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trish: "trish regan primetime" learned venezuela and its currents regime are on the brink of collapse. possibly days, weeks, months away from a potential change in leadership, according to my source. that was a month ago and a day as of yesterday. i reported exclusively socialist venezuela was about to see a major change. mat duro regime i learned

through my sources was on the brink. tonight i can report exclusively again that that change may occur in just seven days' time. the vice president of the united states mike pence calling the opposition in venezuela a short time ago to express his support. i spoke to the vice president's office following that call tonight and i learned mike pence supports what the opposition is doing and that we want to make sure he the opposition leader is okay. you know what happened? just a couple days ago venezuela attempted to jail him. a 35-year-old married father of a toddler. the united states and vice president pence are encouraging the opposition leader as he rallies the people of venezuela. in 7 days the opposition led by him is planning to take to the

streets in a massive protest. it's geared towards ending the maduro regime. there is the significance to the day they have chosen. it's january 23 which is the anniversary of a 1958 popular uprising in which military dictator marcos perez jimenez was overthrown by the people. so the next seven days are critical. we should welcome change in that socialist nation so close to our border. we should welcome that change not just for the people of venezuela who are suffering amid massive poverty, inflation topping a million percent and mood shortages that left many people starving. it's not just for the venezuelans. they need a bert system. but it's not just for them we should welcome that change. it's also importantly for us.

venezuela has been courting the rugs and the chinese, basically all of our enemies. and the former vice president of venezuela, delcy rodriguez told me herself they are doing business with all of them. you don't do business with putin you given that putin is hardly our friend. and went so far as to send fighter jets to venezuela. we need a president who is determined to help his people. not just himself. it's the right thing for venezuela, and it's the right thing for us. here to react to all of it, economist and chief investment officer and retired brigadier general, anthony tatum, general davis, it seems to be coming to a head. >> absolutely. the vice president's phone call

today may precipitate some action. the key to me is which way does the half a million member army break? you have got general lopez in charge of this army. the chief of the military. in the south american countries, so goes the military, so goes the country typically. so that's something to watch the next few days. is the military going to block the protests or join the protests. are they going to at least allow the protests to happen. what you have got is a duly elected government there except for maduro, and you have g air, edo who is leading the opposition party and they have been duly elected. vice president pence was right to say we recognize you as duly

elected. trish: they don't recognize maduro as president. they recognize the congress and the country, they just don't recognize the president. they say this president stole that election and that's not right. you need democracy there. you need some friendly people, too. because you and i thought about the influence of russia and china and the iranians, and none of that is good. there is another component to all of this which my friend can really whrend a hand here on. that's the socialism element. because it's bad from a military perspective, it's a dictatorship. they are trying to hold on to that by force. but it's also bad from an economic perspective. those economic policies have driven that country into the ground. i want to know the country that once had the highest per capita

incomes in north america could wind up with those poverty levels. >> the people are brains and energy will not work as a slave for maduro or his predecessor. i have gotten a chance to know some of the people who have immigrated from venezuela. what's left in venezuela are the people willing to live under the thumb of maduro. this is a totalitarian regime that can barely feed itself. here is a country sitting on literally the largest oil reserves in the world. it's so broken down in the world it can't produce enough

gasoline, and jet fuel for itself. they have to import it from the united states. we can say we are not going to export refined petroleum. we could turn the lights out any time we want. trish: i hope maduro is listening. we may be getting close to doing that. general tata, thank you. don, thank you. alexandria ocasio-cortez doubling down on her whole 70% marginal thanks rate. but even members of her own party think it's a dumb idea. wait until you hear what some dems are saying about miss ocasio-cortez. you need on to look at venezuela, miss cortez.

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trish: one former democrat heavyweight slamming alexandria ocasio-cortez's socialist idea of a 70% tax rate. it happens to be former senate majority leader harry reid. criticizing this rising socialist star and champion of the left saying quote, when you talk about 70%, we have to be careful. the american people are conservative in the sense of not wanting radical change quickly. he continues. it just doesn't work. you can add reid to the list of democrats distancing themselves from ocasio-cortez from her views. they need someone to speak out about this craziness. joining me lee carter and ethan

burman. lee, it is craziness. and we report -- we have been reporting on venezuela on this show. i keep making the point that, you know, socialism ultimately doesn't work. we also reported on sweden which is like the socialist dream. yet it's not working there. they are highly challenges by the influx of immigrants into their economy and welfare system. i think americans deep down know it wouldn't work here. >> i think there is also a set much americans who are finding this idea very appealing. in polling we are look at it and you are seeing there are a lot of people liking the social yichtd policies. trish: come on! really? are they young? who are these people? i think millennials have gotten a raw deal. >> when you are talking about the oldest millennials they are

in their early 30s. a lot of people say they have got and raw deal. and they would like to see an alternative plan. so the democrats are out there saying no way this will never happen. it's an important step for the democrats to distance themselves. but they are going to have to put out a plan. a lot of folks looking at the democrats saying no way we are not allowing this. it is an appealing idea and one that's very concerning. trish: ethan, what's your sense where the party is heading. when you talk to fellow democrats, do you get jazzed and excited by the likes of alexandria? >> absolutely. the fire,ed the energy. trish: are we talking about the

same person? i was watching her on some rachel maddow clip. i am thinking she is so naive. she seems very lacking in sort of experience and intellect and frankly gravitas. you say it's star power? >> absolutely. let's say president eisenhower was a radical socialist because he wanted a 90% top marginal tax rate. we had a 70% during the reagan era. it was very strong in the 1950s which the americans are so fond to go back to. trish: let me jump in. nobody actually paid their taxes. people sent things offshore. so that 90% tax rate never applied to anyone. you can it on paper. but there are ways people find,

and it's not right, but that's what they do. nobody was paying that, ethan. you can talk about that all you want. i am sort of surprised at you. i'm surprised. i didn't see you as an aoc type. >> we have a tax that increased our deficits under the republicans and president trump. $22 billion in debt. trish: i think those are real concerns. but i don't think the answer is to tax. would you be surprised if i told you this year we saw record tax revenue? the most of we have ever gotten thanks to lower tax rates. i'll leave it there. coming up, the women's march claims it's against all bigotry and discrimination. so why on earth are several

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>> just because you goin a space with someone it does not mean you agree with everything they say. why why call him the greatest all time. >> i didn't call him the greatest all times time because of what he has done in black communities. i don't agree with many of his statements. >> do you condemn them? >> i don't agree with the statements. you wouldn't condemn it. >> it's not my language. it's not the way that i speak. trish: that was women's marco chair tamika mallory defending her support, refusing to condemn a bigot, anti-semite louis farrakhan. shock hypocrisy generating

controversy over the women's march scheduled for this weekend. the dnc has earned its sponsorship of the march. the naacp and the national organization of women, they are out. they have lost more than half of the 500 sponsors who supported the march last year which is good. we are talking progress. a man like that who says the things he says should never get the time of day from anyone. joining me right now, campus reform contributor, an american islamic forum for democracy zuhdi jasser. your thoughts on louis farrakhan and the fact that people in the women's march have brought him in and refuse to condemn him. >> you see finally people

escaping like the dnc and others are finally wake up too the fact that the women's march was associated with hate-filled bigots from the nation of islam. when people wonder where are the voices of moderate islam. when the left doesn't care about values. they just care about the enemy of my enemy is my friend. the associations you saw with meghan's interview, but linda sarsour called for jihad. she is a hamas supporter. why are the hate-filled bigots leading a women's march. they are homophobic, they are in many ways against the values of the women's march. trish: why would the women's march want any association with

them, emma? >> it's good that the left is waking up to what conservatives are saying about the women's march from the very beginning. this group is too radical. they don't represent the views of most of american women. that hypocrisy has been there since the beginning. linda sarsour has mad many states that go back before the march started. she is standing by her endorsement of louis farrakhan who is a known anti-semite. trish: the guy is disgusting and the fact that they would can welcoming him at all is beyond my comprehension. emma, tell us, what are colleges doing? they are supportive of this whole thing even despite the

association with farrakhan. >> they have been encouraging students to take part and what's unfortunate about this is it plays into this thing we have been covering and it's group think. the fact that these students don't understand why they should be questioning the movements they are part of. there are students look for statements from farrakhan and linda asour. but they are noting a those questions. that's where the problem comes from, the lack of teaching students critical thinking skills at the college level. trish: not teaching them to think. but maybe they are teaching them to not be allowed to think. how dare you think differently. how dare you challenge anything. and usual seen as a whole host

of things. you kornts have a donald trump for president on a college campus it was considered hate speech. it's kind of crazy out there, sir. >> the central core of their hypocrisy is they say they are all about diversity. but their diversity is skin deep. it's ideological identity. as long as they are enemies of the conservatives,s they don't care. they will sit with dictators or monarchs to push forth their collectivist agenda. it's not about reality of ideas which is what we need to hold them account and, which is american values. trish: emma, i think about what

college should be. an appreciation not just for all kinds of different people. but all kinds of different thought. we need intellectual diversity or how else will we progress if everyone is thinking the same way. >> we need different ideas on college campuses. that's what higher education is supposed to be about. so that's the best one can win and be successful. but that's not what we are seeing on the college campus. students are being spoon fed these talking points. so that's something -- fritsch i support something justice and equality. zhudi, just your final thought on this. it does feel as though they are trying to jam something down everybody *'s throat. >> their inability to condiment

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trish: general jack keane will be here exclusively tomorrow. it's always good the hear from the general. be good to hear his thoughts on this whole venezuela situation that is unfolding so fast right

before our eyes. it could be just a matter of days now before that socialist regime, led by nicolas maduro, is no more. we'll find out. general keane tomorrow. kennedy begins right now. ♪ ♪ kennedy: thank you, trish. a huge day on capitol hill. the president's nominee for attorney general testifying on everything from criminal justice reform to immigration, but the main topic for almost every lawmaker in the room, very predictably, the mueller investigation. 68-year-old william barr spent the better part of the day in front of the senate judiciary committee, and right out of the gate he made it clear what he thinks of the special counsel's probe of president trump's alleged ties to russia. watch. >> i have known bob mueller for 30 years, and i have the utmost respect for bob and his distinguished record of public service. and on my watch, bob will be allowed to fis