and instagram. @kennedy nation. email me also. tomorrow on the show florida congressman matt gates, -- and matt carney. i will be outnumbered at noon eastern, good night. lou: good evening, everybody. the crisis at our southern border worsens as a new caravan of 2,000 hondurans have begun their planned trek for guatemala on to the southern boar border f mexico. this as the democratic leadership on capitol hill are in absolute disarray surrounded with chaos of their own making. still holding the government hostage as they push their radical agenda of open borders and unfettered illegal immigration. honduran officials are warning the migrants that the leftist caravan organizers have lied to them from the outset for their own political purposes. >> we think that they're giving

them falls false, a hope, tellie they can come with their kids. they tell them, if you take your kids, it's easier to enter the usa and it's easier for you to get an asylum. so they expose the families. they don't care. they just ask them for money so they sell everything they have and then they go on the journey. lou: tonight woe tal we take upe president's efforts to build the wall, to help end the crisis that threatenens to overrun the southern border. illegal aliens, drug and sex trafficking, the entry of terrorists into the united states threaten the nation. we take all of this up with dr. sebastian gorka, dan bongino with us tonight. and as the president stays focused on american security, the radical dimms are sowing more confusion in their party.

house speaker nancy pelosi asked president trump to postpone the state of the union until the shutdown is ended. she claims she's only worried about security. but there's a different story that's materialized that sounds very much like the truth. the dimms quickly lost control of the speaker's gamemanship and their own mb. message. no one more confused than her number one deputy, house majority leader hoyer. here he is plainly saying the speech is off completely. >> the speaker is the one who invites the president to speak at the joint session and she's said slong government is shut down we're not going to do business as usual. >> the state of the union is off? >> the state of the union is off. >> what if the president, i

don't know, responds with no, he wants to keep the. any chance that he could convince you otherwise? >> no. lou: hoyer then trying to walk back his emphatic straightforward answers claiming he didn't actually read pelosi's letter to the president about postponing the state of the union address with the lack of communication amongst its entire leadership, is there any hope that the radical dimms will meet the president's demands to build a wall? two republican congressmen, two leaders of the republican party on capitol hill, jim jordan and matt gaetz join us tonight to take up the building chaos within the house democratic conference. also tonight, red storm rising, federal prosecutors pursuing a criminal case against what way. they allege the tech giant stole trade tech secrets.

gordon chang among or guests tonight. our top story. the radical dimms remain on that nate with providing the united states protection on the southern border. president trump has been met with nothing but indifference and resistance from the likes of pa lpelosi and schumer. the president's frustrating showing a little bit today. he tweeted this. it is becoming more and mer obvious that the radical democrats are a party of open borders and crime. they want nothing to do with a major humanitarian crisis on owrp southeroursouthern border. #2020. the president's tweet, most of them are moving in mexico towards the united states. but despite the obvious critical need for the construction of the border wall, one that will ind

thendthe influx of drugs, sex trafficking, illegal immigrants, the dimms stay focused on political gamesmanship. nancy pelosi today sent a letter to the president asking that he postpone the state of the union because of what she calls security concerns. >> this is a special security event. this is a house keep housekeepi. he can make it from the oval office. lou: pelosi based her concerns and reaction and call to postpone the president's speech apparently based on a communication with one former official of one unnamed agency. however, department of homeland security officials tell fox news today that not a single democratic leader asked about

the safety of those attending the president's state of the union address. they noted in fact that the secret service stands ready for the event, as always. joining us tonight, congressman jim jordan, ranking member of the house oversight committee, cofounder of the influential house freedom caucus. great to have you with us. the democratic party looks like it is in total disarray. it's stunning what they're doing. >> if you needed me for proof that they were focused on stopping the president than helping the country, this is it. the speaker of the house doesn't invite or disinvites the commander in chief, the president of the united states of america not to come give the state of the union address? i mean this is unbelievable and you couple with that what happened yesterday when the president invited democrat to the white house to talk about getting a solution, building a border security wall, figuring out how to negotiate this to

some end and they didn't show up. not showing up and now not inviting the president to give the annual state of the union address. this is how much they're focused on stopping the president and how little they're focused on what we need to be doing which is helping the country. lou: it looks to me like this just blew up in pelosi's face, this shallow, i mean, really contencontempt. >> it's really going to matter where the republican barely beat the democrat, joe cunningham in south carolina, i think constituents in those districts are going to tell their member, wait a minute. go talk to the president. have the state of the union like we always do in this country. go tell your leadership to sit down with the president, figure out how to build the border security wall and actually help the country. lou: are you at leasted surprised. >> no. lou: -- a little bit, that nancy

pelosi did not at least feign interest in what the secret service and department of homeland security had to say about security since she used that as our excuse to be as insulting as she knew how to be? >> not really. today's left applaud kaepernick when he disrespects our flag, they cheer on maxine waters when she says go out and harass anybody who supports or president. this is today's left. their very first big hearing they're doing, they're inviting a convicted felon, michael cohen in to address congress. and one of the things he's convicted of is lying to congress. from this group nothing should surprise us but i guess deep down it does a little bit. this is the state of the union address. lou: i feel like i should withdraw the question, congressman, but i just -- i'm frankly -- i cannot believe the ma la detroit politics of the left and their in indifference o

what was once their base, working men and women, middle class america, small business. they've sold out to, i guess, illegal immigrants, various special interests. >> how about the union workers in youngstown, ohio, the union workers in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. the hardworking families. lou: trump democrats. >> i gave a speech before the election in youngstown and there were 500 people that showed up at this republican i vent in youngstown, ohio. they want a wall built. i know it's good for this nation. they know they want this president to keep fighting hard to make sure that happens. >> i want to take up if we may, very quickly here, the letter that you and congressman mark meadows have sent seeking more information about the criminal case against james baker, the former general council of the fbi. >> yeah. lou: where are you headed here? >> well, the main thing is this is the top lawyer at the fbi.

this is their chief council, their general council. jim baker, comey and mccabe's right-hand man. he's under investigation. he is a subject of investigation by the u.s. attorney in connecticut. that is big news. we don't know exactly all of the details and the parameters of the investigation. but his lawyer told us in the deposition that he's under investigation and that's why they couldn't answer -- jim baker couldn't answer certain questions mark and i have for them. we want to know more about that. the key is this. andy mccabe, jim baker, two of the ring leaders in this whole effort to go after the president, both under investigation. both were at the fbi, mccabe was fired, baker was demoted and then left. and of course we've got lisa page and peter strzok also demoted and fired at the fbi. the four ring leaders in this whole sordid affair. we want to get the answers and we continue to push. lou: despite all, none of those people you just enumerated have

been punished for what is obviously. >> not yet. lou: -- as you say, we hope. but do this point not punished in any way for their abuse of power and just flaunting th flaw and regulations of the two most important federal agencies in law enforcement. i don't thinkman jim jordan, thanks so much. up next, the left wing national media toes the democratic party line praising speaker pelosi's call to reschedule, to stop, to end, who knows, the president's state of the union address. >> she is reminding trump she's got power right now. this is up to her. >> the democratic base, i'm sure that her caucus is thrilled by that kind of a show of force. >> we are seeing at turn after turn after turn president trump underestimating nancy pelosi. >> is this speaker pelosi

trolling trump? >> yes, to a degree. >> it's certainly the power move. she's reminding donald trump that this is her domain. >> there isn't the security that there should be. it could be very dangerous. >> the speaker is basically saying not in my house, not on my watch as long as the government is shut down. lou: lovely. we'll take that up and much more right after the break. dan bongino joins us. stay with us. stay with us. we'll be right hey, who are you? oh, hey jeff, i'm a car thief... what?! i'm here to steal your car because, well, that's my job. what? what?? what?! (laughing) what?? what?! what?! [crash] what?! haha, it happens. and if you've got cut-rate car insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. so get allstate... and be better protected from mayhem... like me. ♪

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traffic controllers union irresponsibly today claiming the government shutdown has made flying less safe than a month ago. the faa contradicted those comments saying immediately, quote, the traveling public can be assured that our nation's air space system is safe. joining us tonight, dan bongino, former secret service agent, author, talent of silver screen and whatever other screen you happen to see him on dp good to see you on our screen tonight. thanks. >> good to be here. lou: let's turn to this nonsense right now of a president having to contend with a democratic party that is clearly trying to

obstruct everything he does. the that marty of a house speaker to sit there and effectively lie about her security concerns, not having talked to the secret service or the department of homeland security. it's astonishing. >> lou, let's point out the obvious first. don't you find it a little ironic, my friend, that nancy pelosi wants to shut down the state of the union for a lack of security. but she wants to do nothing about the border where there's no security at all. like has that irony jumped out to anyone in the media yet? eat let me say this as a former secret service agent as well. a job i was very proud of. this is disgusting. this is a disgraceful conversation. lou, i know you've met secret service agent agents in your li. these are the finest men and women. they don't pay me to say this.

i've been gone a long time. it was an honor to work with them. they're not sitting waiting on their paycheck to ge do their j. nancy pelosi owes them a very heartfelt apology, a sincere apology and it better be legitimate. this was disgraceful. lou: she decides to start apologizing, you're going to watch a huge line form. not many people are going to expect it and i know if secret service agents who put up with -- i will just say this. i have seen secret service agents put up with a lot of personalities that i'm not entirely sure how that training works, but it does work and they're absolute gentlemen as well as be courageous and skilled at protecting the president and everyone else in the assignment. let's turn to, if we may, the idea that we have another

caravan coming north. the mexican government is apparently permitting its transport through the heart of mexico to our southern border. and we've got a pelosi-led democratic chaos called a party that is refusing to secure the nation. this president, what is he to do? >> i mean, lou, think about it, right? why would these caravans not come. we're doing nothing about it. i mean, the president is taking a stand but the democrats are clearly committed at this point to outrageous talking points and open borders. think about this. how many times have you heard on television the past week the absolute ridiculous absurd statement that walls don't work. i was on fox last night, a liberal friend of mine said walls don't work because they can build tunnels. lou: wait a minute. i want to write this down. bongino has liberal friends. >> don't hold it against me. but the argument back was, well

they build tunnels because there's a wall. i said, don't you get the point? that's what an obstruction does. that's what a physical barrier does. oh, they could get a ladder. you could get a pick for a door lock too, lou. that doesn't mean you put a lock on the door. it's an obstruction. these conversations are so ridiculous. we're all dumber for having them but the liberals insist on sticking to the talking points. lou: remember, it was your point to talk to the liberal, not mine. >> i love to debate. i know we're on the right side of this. when you're debating on the right side, all they have is talking points. we have the truth. lou: we also have the president of the united states who is on the right side of every major issue facing this country. he's demonstrated in the first two years in office he's an historic president in what he's achieved. and for the american working man and woman to sit there and watch

the democratic party behave like this, how could they possibly feel that they're the base, that they are even part of the calculous on the part of these shallow indifferent so-called leaders of the democratic party. there's only one president working for working men and women, their families, middle class families in this country. and he said he's going to work for all americans and guess what, unemployment rates have fallen for every single demographic to historically low levels. and i don't quite understand how anyone in this country right now could even think about voting for a democrat. >> lou, this president frightens them to death because he's simply not interested in the favor game. he doesn't need their money. he doesn't need their pr but he does need one thing, lou. he needs his base and the people who got him elected. and this president knows that. and other presidents in the past

couldn't have cared any less if they had to expand or decrease. this president cares about the people who voted him into office. it's a novelty in politics. say to say but true. lou: not only does he need his base and obviously they him, bhu what ibutwhat is exciting to mee midst of this pivotal moment in american history, this president has an opportunity to reach out to democrats, what was once the left in this country and bring them into the trump middle, if you will. he is a man who is expanding his base while the democrats are shunning the very people who constituted the constituency of the democratic party for decades. no more. >> yeah. we've already seen it, lou. the electoral college votes speak for themselves. the win in wisconsin, in pennsylvania, a state called by republicans fool's gold forever because republicans have chased

it to be stymied. who wins it? donald trump found a way to talk to the people and win it. lou: we have to discount one thing. they seem to be easily frightened so we won't overanalyze that. great to have you. a witness in the trial of el chapo guzman claims that the drug lord paid the mexican president a $100 million bribe to call off a manhunt for guzman. the witness claims that el chapo gave the president the bribe in 2012. he denied receiving any bribes and the spokesman called the allegations false. former president, felipe call der ron is accused of accepting bribes during his

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huawei. an indictment, as we are told, expected soon. joining us tonight, columnist, author, asian expert gordon chang. great to have you here. >> thanks, lou. lou: whatway, zte, their heads rise up again and in the worst sorts of ways, that is doing again what they've been accused of were stealing, thievery, espionage against the giants and our countries. >> yeah, huawei didn't become the large er largest manufacturf telecom quit and second largest manufacturer of cell phone by itself. it stole a lot of money from t-mobile, others that we don't know about. anthat's what we're competing against. zte is a little different story by basically the same narrative. lou: it is a narrative that

involves espionage against the united states. the theft of our technology, the theft f of our intellectual property. and for the life of me i don't understand why we're gesh yaighg an end of thievery to the destruction of our defense system by these chinese companies which, as you say, are run by the pla, communist party. >> these guys do hundreds of billions of dollars a year. people argue how much that is. some people say 600 billion. some a little less. but the point is, they're taking the life blood of u.s. innovation. lou: they're doing it in the open, in the clear. and we have no one saying this is an act of war. >> yeah. lou: what the hell would it take to say this is an act of war? >> you know, it's only been in the last four years that the justice department has gone off chinese theft. we saw it in the last two years

of the obama administration. we've seen it in two years of the trump administration. you know, before that -- you know, chinese companies were stealing the u.s. blind and nobody was doing anything about it. lou: report after report over the course of the past two decades about front companies, chinese front companies carrying out espionage against our corporations, military industrial complex. nothing happens. nothing. and the president goes after zte and huawei, his administration, and you could hear president xi squealing all the way from beijing. and meanwhile, the unregistered foreign agents on wall street, as vice president mike pence famously called them, are squealing right along with him in defines of u.s. interests and the trump administration's goals in balancing trade and ending the theft of intellectual property. this is scurlous on the part of

the establishment. >> you hear all of the time this is trump's trade war. no it's not. he's seeking a recommen remedy e theft. lou: i'm not one of those guys who needs a coalition of the willing to see clearly and to want to do the right thing. i am so sick of us needing a partner, a coalition, a multinational approach to when we are absolutely assaulted and ripped off by a trading partner, in this case a communist trading partner, china. and we're supposed to negotiate with these characters? >> are you kidding me? >> yeah, i know. i mean, the thing is when you start to look at what the administration has started to do with zte, with the seven-year ban -- lou: how many companies does that leave the chinese that would step up. we're talking about zte and

huawei. how many technology companies, telecommunications company, advanced communications companies do the chinese have. it's a tsunami that could reach across the global business landscape. >> it does. you look at the fortune 5 500. lou: my point being, what's the deal with two of them. we started and then the president decided, because president xi begged him to save some jobs, relented. >> i think what happened on zte, trump said look, i'm giving you a chance to do the right thing. they don't do the right thick so we're going after huawei. it's not only the iran sanctions. it's a criminal probe that you talked about. it's going to be across the board. lou: militarily china is making a lot of noises, bel bellicose threatening. it's almost as if their mill taib wantmilitarywants a confli.

do you think we're going to oblige them and how serious of a threat is this to the u.s. right now. >> it's extremely serious. it's extremely bellicose. and now you have the ruler of china insecure. what you're seeing right now is what we saw in the 1930s in japan, an officer goes off of the rails -- lou: you think it's that bad? >> it's that bad. we had our most senior admiral in beijing over the weekend. he's talking about cooperation and the chinese on the other side are talking about killing americans. 110,000 americans one admiral said. when you go over there, you don't say these things. lou: the chief of our naval operations, to be sitting there patiently listening to these chinese top officers start talking about taiwanese

independence and telling him what they would do if the united states navy were to intervene in support of taiwan independence, it's enough to make you want to be sure that we do intervene in taiwan. >> we need to tell the chinese they've got to back off. there's one thing about this meeting. you had richardson say look, we need to have dialogue, we need to have cooperation. no, our problem with china is not the di dialogue. the problem is beijing's hostility right now. lou: this president was elected by reminding people that talk is cheep and doing something very tough. he's demonstrated how much you can do in two years. and the folks who want to blather need to stay on television and let this president carry on with the job that mercifully he has. gordon chang, great to have you here. >> thanks, lou. lou: the chinese are annoying, aren't they? what are they thinking? what are they thinking?

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terror attacks. judicial watch investigating whether the 2012 terrorist attacks were a factor in keeping mrs. clinton's e-mail secret. a post discovery hearing will be healed at a later date to determine whether hillary clinton and her former chief of staff cherl mills can be deposed in preciset precisely the same . think about that. we're talking almost seven years to get answers to question. joining us tonight, congressman matt gaetz. great to have you with us. i want to -- if i did not say this, judge lambert is to be congratulated for making this decision. i think it's terrible that it's taken seven years but thank god we have judges like him to make such decisions. >> well, unfortunately, lou, there won't be accountability here because the prior justice department gave out so many immunity deals to hillary clinton and associates before ever knowing the extent to which

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put 2.5% tariff. and we don't give our president the authority to immediately put tariffs on other countries that put tariffs on us. if we did that, they wouldn't abuse us so much. we would get better trade deals because we wouldn't be the laughing stock of the world unwilling to fight back when the other countries fut the american worker behind the eight ball. lou: yoyou're a cosponsor of legislation, sean duffy with us talking about what had happened to a few other cosponsors right after tom donahue, who has run the chamber for years representing big business, multinationals and the hell with the national interest. congratulations to all of you who are working to give the president the tools to deal with these extraordinary trade deficits. and people don't even realize what happens to our economic growth rate as a result of those

deficits. but good for you. >> but this president will take them on, lou. lou: i don't doubt that. >> the difference is presidents who are republicans and democrat in the past have been the valets if for special interest on k street and the multinational companies. those companies did elect donald trump. donald trump was elected in spite of the millions of dollars that big business put against him. he has a unique ability to fight for the american worker. you look at where this 2020 election is going to be won, wisconsin, minnesota, there are a lot of people that went a fair shake at putting the best product out into the world without being a laughing stock. reciprocal trade will get the job done and i'm glad that even during the shutdown this president is fighting for fair reciprocal trade. lou: absolutely. and i think we ought to point out something. the very people attacking this president are the u.s. multinationals and the business lobbyists. and the big companies that own fake news, that is the news

media who are attacking this president because he means to go after them and to represent the working man and woman, their families and the midding class of this country, small businessmen and women and right now they're going to be. >> but will the democrats join us? lou: i'll make make a rediction for you. there will be more trump democrats than anyone can possibly manage in 2020. >> i would love to find a few of them in congress to join news this bill. a lot of democrats represent the districts in michigan, pennsylvania, minnesota. what are they going to say to their workers when the nult national companies keep trying to offshore these jobs and we've got this president fighting for the american worker. we could use a few here in the congress. lou: go to work, congressman. we know you will. >> we've got to find them. lou: congressman mat gates good tga rksaetz. next, dr. sebasa

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lou: isis claiming responsibility for a suicide bombing attack in syria. four americans were killed. the attack occurred in syria just over 20 miles from the turkish border. two american service members and a contractor supporting our troops. in kenya the terrorist group al shabaab has taken responsibility for a tears ris attack on nairobi hotel where american jason spindler was killed. his family said he survived the 9/1 is attacks at the world trade center. he was 40 years old. joining me tonight, dr. sebastian gorka, great to have you here. this is terrible news out of syria, out of kenya. your thoughts as the president

is moving troops out of syria and terrorism again strikes. >> well, first things first, lou, as i detailed in my book "why we fight" we have to think of the ge jihadi threat -- lou: what was the name of that book? i missed that. >> "why we fight." lou: we put that on the lower third so people know that's the book. >> thank you, lou. i use the phrase in that book "the global jihadi movement." it isn't just about individuals or organizations. it's about the ideology whether it's in nigeria, whether it's in yemen or syria. we have to understand the ideological connections. lou: in all due respect, i mean, it has been, we're approaching 18 years of war. >> yes. lou: we battled radical islamic

terrorism a decade before that and we have not done well. and i've run into more military people, more civilian analysts telling me we've got to understand the enemy. and i have to tell you when i look at the enemies that we've come up against, i wonder how the hell did we spend $7 trillion waging war in the middle east, across asia. this is appalling that we continue to flail and talk with -- frankly, i'm not referring to your comments mer. here. but to talk about this as we had done something and know something that holds a treasured key. we don't have anyone, as far as i know in the pentagon or the national security council or in the intelligence agencies who even know how to define victory in 2019. do you? >> lou, your point is well taken. we've been -- in my book i write

about stephen decay da who fought the jihadis when thomas jefferson was our president. that's why the marine corps anthem has the phrase the shores of triple east. this isn't a new threat. lou: what good does that do us? what is there in our body of knowledge that leads us and aids us in killing radical islamist terrorists who threaten this nation and american citizens? >> i'll tell you what the president believes. he believes that having 2,000 marines sitting in syria as sitting ducks makes the situation worse. and the idea that these people would kill these americans, servicemen and contractors were killed in a restaurant, in a cafe in syria i think underscores the point. we have capacities to kill terrorists that no other nation has. we can do it with our uavs, we do it by helping our partners

take the war to them. that's what this president wants. he's not interested in regime change. he wants to bring home our servicemen and woman as much as possible. and if there's a threat we have many ways to kill that threat in ways that do not make out -- lou: the fact that no president before this has succeeded in destroying the enemy in afghanistan. now we're talking about negotiating with the taliban who we destroyed within a year of september 11th and here we are now talking about returning the country to their absolute control. we're watching al shabaab in kenya still unmolested. we have to leave it there. we'll leave it with where we've started and that is with a lot of questions. thanks so much. on wall street stock rose higher, the s&p up 6, the nasdaq up 1 is. 3.8 billion shares. crude oil thereat, just over

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lou: nancy pelosi asking the president to postpone the state of the union. she says she is concerned about security, but she didn't talk with the secret service. >> the president invited the democrats to the white house to talk about a border exclusion and they didn't even show up. now not showing up and not inviting the president to give the annual state of the union address. this is how focused they are on stopping the president and how little focused they are on helping the family. lou already they intend to enter the united states. president trump planning to

visit the pentagon tomorrow to unveil a report on the status of the country's missile defense. that's it for us tonight. thanks for being with us. good night from *. [♪] trish: we just tallied the numbers and we can report for you tonight that cost of the government shutdown is about to overtake the $5.7 billion mark. which means in just a couple hours we could have had enough money to build the wall. i ask the dems, is it worth it. all this as that caravan of thousands we just reported on last night swells. expectations are it could soon reach 10,000. as the caravan crosses from honduras into guatemala.