that. david: sometimes robots are better. thank you for watching. that does it for "bulls and bears." we'll see you back here next time. take care. >> the proposal, democrats would have to prioritize political combat with the president over federal workers. >> this must stop, the govent shutdown must end. >> let's hope the president will stop holding the federal employees hostage. >> is that a price the democrats want to pay to prolong this episode that they say they want to be over and done with. >> the american people know president trump is responsible for the shutdown. >> is there a plan to throw daca

supporters understood the bus to extend this political theater? liz: the senate will vote on two bills this week to potentially end the government shutdown. we'll bring you that story tonight. democrats still oppose border wall funding, and which big powerful entity stands in president trump's way. we debate democrat socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez. she calls capitalism immoral because it creates billionaires. but she doesn't mention the billionaires funding the democratic party. we'll bring on a billionaire to get his take. we take on cortez's claim that

the world will end in 12 years if we don't address climate change. corporate america is already moving to stop it and cortez is not acknowledging. a story that should have civil libertarians up in arms at what's going on at the border. a former prosecutor who spent time at the border. we bring you the company taking on gillette's toxic masculinity commercial. "the evening edit" starts right now. >> here's what's going upon.

the senate has two votes to stop the government shutdown. chad, both of those bills i think need 60 votes to avoid a filibuster. >> they worked out an agreement to have these procedural votes. the first one is on the proposal president trump put forward to reopen the weekend and provide $5.7 million in border wall funding. there is another competing track going on. in the house of representatives, the house rules committee is meeting as we expect. house democrats are trying to pass a set of six spending bills to reopen the government. those bills are ones president trump would not necessarily sign. mitch mcconnell the majority leader in the senate said the

president would sign the pack imagine the senate. this is the narrative in washington. that's why nobody thinks this government shutdown is anywhere? sight. today is the day they had to start processing checks for federal workers to go out on friday. there is no way those federal workers would be paid friday. that's why this might drift into next week. a lot of people are looking for a tipping point with the cancellation of the state of the union address next week. could there be an issue of market crash or trying to roll out the farm bill? that's what people are saying. is there a way people can get the 60 votes in the senate? if they can do that on any piece of legislation. doug jones, joe manchin from

west virginia. >> thank you for your reporting. let's get to edward lawrence in washington with the white house reaction to what's going on. >> no end in sight on this shutdown. the president going on to say if we build the wall we'll see crime come down in record numbers. the democrats are focused on a win because of the shutdown and could have already paid off the wall with the lost money. larry kudlow says the economy will rebound those losses. >> once the government reopens the resources and opportunities will come back literally the day of. but there will be a snapback immediately. that's my sense. >> senate majority leader mitch

mcconnell going forward with the bills. democrats sticking to their position opening the government first, and they have not talked negotiation at all with the president. listen. >> i don't think any democratic senator is going to vote for it because of the context in which those proposals are made. he said this is going to be the bill, vote for it or vote against it. that's not a negotiation. reporter: the white house requested a walk-through from the sergeant at arms. the white house wants to go forward with this and will do the state of the union according to white house officials regardless of where it end up being. liz: tsa sickouts hit a record

sunday with 10% of the 51,000 workforce called out. there is a pickup in passengers for people flying for the super bowl. trump is falling on his sword. he wants border security. his plan b is possibly using army corps of engineer money to build the wall. if congress blocks him on that, plan c. joe manchin says do that to stop the political meltdown. chris, this debate about the economy. you recapture that in the future quarters, the debate of the shutdown exceeding the cost of the wall. $5.7 billion for the wall.

i think it's a moot point right now. >> now that the shutdown is in its 32nd day, i think we can agree it's gone on too long. i think what the white house is looking for is whether democrats discount. as if there is nothing. $1 for the wall or else open up the government. what the republicans have learned is very simple. if you are going to get border security, you have to have border security before legalization. liz: the dow is down today. trump's big mortal enemy is not just pelosi or schumer. it's the courts. his offer to extend daca for three years is irrelevant because it stays in place for another year. and the courts could step in

again. >> the supreme court doesn't want to get ahead of the white house and ahead of congress. they would rather see those branches figure out a deal on daca before the court has to make a ruling. a three-year extension of daca is the likely reason why the supreme court is not going to hear this case. if they did hear it they would likely give president trump the ability to end daca. but him making an offer to congress, that's going to make the supreme court say hold on a second. if they can, they can come back to us. >> chris makes a good point. the supreme court, let me back up. there have been rulings that they don't like when you do executive actions to change policy. let's show how the courts are blocking trump on various ways.

ford, what's at stake here if the congress doesn't act. do you think president trump will break the glass and go to plan b and get army corps of engineer money and build the wall? he could do it. >> whether it's a national emergency or going to the army corps of engineers. he realize he has to make a good faith effort through the legislative system. what's going on between pelosi and mcconnell and schumer and trump, it's something the founders didn't bank on. liz: the next president can overturn executive actions. that's what the president did with obama. democrats are saying why should

democrats trust trump's words when he's already losing the tbhalt court. can't they get a solution? >> maybe back in the 1990s. but president trump was elected on the promise he would build a wall and the democrats were elected on the promise they would resist. you can't come to a compromise table where one person says wall and the other person says resist. every one of president trump's deals. if they did do that, it would be political suicide. liz: watch them break the glass. chris and ford you will be back with us in a minute. the rivals are back on at

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lower? it's about china and russia and fears about trade. china growth is stalling. we had a report that china growth is 6.6%. but the long-term average for china growth is 10%. so this is really a step back. but overall the markets not in positive territory. but a lot of people weren't too upset. >> u.s. china trade talks still on rocky terms. we'll tell you who will blink first. ocasio-cortez says capitalism is i a --is immoral because it cres billionaires. but she doesn't talk about the billionaires funding the

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ocasio-cortez says capitalism is immoral. >> i don't think it means all billionaires are immoral. it's not to say someone like bill gates or warren buffet are immoral people. i do not believe that. but i think a system that allows billionaires to exist when there are parts of alabama where people are still getting ring worm because they don't have access to public health is wrong. liz: socialism created billionaires in venezuela and russia and communist china. you don't hear about those billionaires because there is a lack of transparency. much of what cortez says is founded in envy and not economics. she essentially believe all income belongs to the state. she didn't talk about the

billionaires funding the democratic party. ernie, great to see you. you are the head of boss enterprises. what dour think of what she is saying? >> i think she is been there 19 days. i think she needs to look around a little more. she is off base. she speaks to a certain part of herb generation. but overall i cannot agree with her. liz: it's easy to be patriotic when using somebody else's money. what she is saying is command and control economics will help reduce poverty. is that true? >> i don't think so. look at all these billionaires she is against and what they bring to the table, hundreds, thousands, even 10,000

employees, healthcare. they do a lot. the foundation they run and the monies they give back. this is america. this is what people strive for. liz: that's a great point you make. when she is talking about command-control economics. here is what's going on here. we know that -- i know you talked about this, too. russia, china, north korea all, 91% of the world was in extreme pofer in the 1950s, but now it's a minority system. >> if you have been to beijing you wouldn't know it was communist. it looks capitalist.

people selling on the streets. doing business. it looks good. liz: when you hear alexandria ocasio-cortez say things like this and the democrat candidates have put up a dozen candidates across the country ways your reaction? >> she speaks for a certain segment of the united states. i don't think everybody thinks like her, not at all. kennedy said that the high tide rights all boats. it -- rises all boats. it what's we do. liz: she won with 16,000 votes. what's your reaction to that and ways your message to

millennials? >> she is media savvy. she speaks very well. she seems cool to me. i like her. but i cannot agree at all with her. she is talking to people that don't exactly understand the repercussions of what she is preaching. that's how i feel. >> what are the repercussions? >> there are a few socialist countries and it hasn't exactly been successful. i think that the capitalist system in the united states is the greatest system in the world. liz: to your point allen greenspan and harry reid have criticized her plan to have high tax rates. they sales talk about shovel-ready jobs from the government. >> the capitalist system is a great system.

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liz: china is implying a threat to u.s. trade talks if the cfo of huawei is not released. a canadian diplomat says it will formally seek to extradite the cfo that was arrested at the u.s. request. the chinese government says they will retaliate if canada seeks to send that cfo to the u.s. the next round of trade talks. what do you think all this? >> i don't want to be in bare

joining. the president is laser focused with trade, north korea, security, the south china sea. they don't do trade options. the chinese love to do. i don't think the chinese have a lot of card to play here. >> china is walking on one big thing, intellectual property theft. >> i don't think they can get release of this person and say if you don't release them we'll dump the trade talks. they need a deal more than the united states. they just reported growth is slowing. it has strategic impact on china. they are going to sit around and hold that all hostage for one huawei executive. i think it's just not the kind of deal this administration is going to make.

liz: you know, here is the thing. it seems there is no end in site. when will president trump get a deal? >> i always thought that the administration has a stronger hand here. the longer this drags out, the stronger our commission and the more fragile the chinese economy looks. they are not making friend globally. this goes back to the party congress when they announce the plan they are going to take over the world. so they are generating global anti-bodies. the canadians are unhappy with them. the pols arrested chinese executives for spying. the more they harp on this the more antibodies they are creating and the harder it is

for them to do business. liz: in venezuela the humanitarian and economic crisis is getting worse. what do you think the united states should do when it comes to the venezuela opposition leader? >> i think the united states has been doing exactly the right thing, which is putting pressure on the regime in the right way. what's propping the regime up. their linkage to the criminal cartels and using criminal money to keep themselves in business. the individual saning the united states has been doing in conjunction with really working with regional allies, putting more diplomatic pressure on venezuela. we have been playing a strong outside game and that made the opposition look stronger. it's the most of important thing we brought to the table. >> great to see you, come back soon. liz: gillette's toxic

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biggest issue is how are we going to pay for it? this our world war ii. liz: the report says carbon buildup will increase in 1 years. ocasio-cortez missing the bigger threat out there. russia is playing 4d chess when it comes to controlling global oil supplies. congressman mike kelly. what's your reaction to these remarks? >> i think that for some reason the important part for this young member of congress is to be a media star. and constantly be in the spotlight. it doesn't have to be to the truth what you say. but coming from pennsylvania which has been called the saad irarabia of natural gas. why would the leading ex trablghtdor and producer of energy, why would you cash in a

winning hand that's out there but isn't true? i look at where we are. the biggest advantage we have is we can supply our friends and allies with energy. if you want to see over to washington, you can. but that puts us in a dangerous position globally. vladimir putin wants his own version of opec to control the oil and gas market. soap of those countries easily you are pass the combined u.s. and saudi output in total, right? >> yes. but as you look at this. we have relied in the past, bad actors to supply our energy needs. we are in the position that we are energy end, energy self-sustaining. we don't need to rely on any bad

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liz: a powerful but little known law the trump administration is using to build the border wall is giving civil libertarians

nightmares it's called the real i.d. law it gives any administration vast and arbitrary powers to waive any law that stands in the way of construction at the border. let's bring back ford o'connell and christopher bedford. that's a lot of power. >> it is a lot of power. unfortunately another group that has a lot of power are the environmental activists. they can stop you from digging a well or building a wall. they can tie you up in court and basically any kind of construction you want to do. the fact that building this wall could violate. that shows you how overregulated we are. ford

reporter: the a.g. in california will be trying to knock count barriers we have in california if this law was not in place. it does give the government a lot of power. let's just hope it's not abused. liz: the homeland security secretary overturned 20 laws to get barriers built and fixed. civil libertarians don't like it because it could turn the border region into an area without civil rights. the clean air act, i'm just pushing back to get a debate going. i am listening to what civil libertarians are saying. >> they have serious complaints like the federal government can seize private land to build this wall. but the fact that the environmental groups and activists are so able to hamper any action the president takes

or a private citizen makes. liz: i want to switch gears. i want you to watch this ad. this commercial that was in response to gillette's toxic masculinity. it's made by and watch company called egard. it's a positive message about masculinity. >> what is a man. is a man brave? is a man a hero? liz: what do you think? >> i think it's great. i'm glad the watch company pushed back on the social justice mob. what i never understood about the gillette ad.

i never understood how attack all men would elevated women. >> it's funny for gillette to weigh into the. most of social justice warriors don't shave or can't shave. liz: why did you say they don't shave? >> they have big long beards. i saw this ad and i immediately bought one. they are 2/3 sold out and backed up until april because the response has been so great to see anyone in corporate america standing up for men. attacking half of the entire population is an incredibly toxic position. liz: ford, are you worried about the ads going political at the super bowl? >> yes. you have so many eyeballs out there. this is the time when a good chunk of america is focused on

one event. i just hope they keep it simple and work on selling their product to the very people who are watching. liz: 110 million people could be watching. >> as soon as we saw that nike wasn't hit hard after they waged so deeply into politics. i was sure this would be the most of insufferable season of super bowl commercials. liz: enemy lenials went for it. ford and christopher, appreciate your insights. liz: next on "the evening edit," we'll take you to the border with a former criminal

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he said he is seen shocking and horrific things you haven't heard about. let's bring in matt. it's great to see you, matt. >> thank you for having me on. >> what have you seen? >> it is horrifying. the problems because were not securing the border, the cartels have taken over and taken their notes from isis when it comes to brew truly torturing people. >> can you give us cases? >> i can tell you how they abducted an innocent person, took them to the border, put drugs on him, ordered him to cross the border illegally. he received a stab in the gut. in court he lifted his shirt up and showed where the stab wound was. i want to keep it pg here. i've seen graphic things. i've seen people in court torture marks, burned are having hot oil poured over their head. it's brutal. this is happening right here, on both sides of the border. the cartels have taken over. >> and also child trafficking in human trafficking. >> 99.9% of all people illegally entering the country are forced to pay the cartels a fee of

$6000 up to $8000 to crash cross into the country. it's not just people coming into the country, it's human trafficking. it's controlled by the cartels. >> you make a commonsense point, of course they're trying to cross illegally. a lot -- some of the illegals have criminal records. they are going to cross illegally. >> absolutely. i did a study and took 656 illegal aliens are prosecuted. one in three had a criminal record. why are they entering illegally? because there criminal background in danger to america, they are on eight able to enter legally. that's what they do. they pay the cartels money so they can be trafficked in illegally. i can tell the american people, personally prosecuted multiple child molesters, rapists, murderers. we hear stories from politicians in d.c. that it's bunch of honest people.

there is still a significant number. one in three had a criminal record. one in three people have criminal records in the u.s., many have criminal records in the country of origin. that's why they're escaping for fresh start elsewhere. >> two walls work? >> absolutely. where i was with 200 miles of border, single mile a border wall was erected on a community college campus 150 yards from the border. that campus before the wall was having a couple times a week, illegal aliens crossing and creating problems in cartels making major drug deals on the tennis courts. what did they do? they built a 1 mile wall. the only did it to reduce and stop things. it made it much more in may border patrol able to do their job. it created a natural chokepoints at both ends of the wall where they could easily catch people. when people went around it, when people try to go over, it's only an 8-foot fence, that's all they

needed. it turned what used to be near misses into near hits. there are many people, millions of people in america, right now where border patrol had a couple of extra minutes because of all, they would've been apprehended. >> you are saying the border while slows them down. >> absolutely. is the border wall and more like nancy pelosi says? >> that's ridiculous. >> why don't the dems take down their border fence. >> if it's immoral, wire democrats living in houses and gated community lease? it's hypocrisy. they enjoy security because the walls of their houses. this community college proves the walls work. i want the rest of america to have the same benefits as the rich politicians and their gated communities. >> thank you for coming in. >> thanks for having me on. >> thanks for having us in your

home. looking at the votes that may reopen the government. thank you so much for watching. lou dobbs is next right here on the foxbusiness network. have a good evening. >> good evening everybody. dems still in disarray. the party remains divided over how to end the government shutdown. senate minority leader, chuck schumer, who said there would be no deal without nancy, has been working out a bill with mitch mcconnell, to reopen the government. but house speaker, nancy pelosi says there will be no deal until president trump drops his demand for a border wall. >> to be very clear, open up government. open the government. let's talk. we cannot have the president, every time