>> this one was a whopper. david: they are cutting 15% of the workforce and we wish them well. it's tough to be without a job. we'll see you next time. >> the shutdown may have begun as a battle over border security. but it's affecting men and women in all 50 states whose jobs have nothing to do with border security. >> they should not be held hostage. they should not be told we'll not pay you unless we get our way on the wall. it's what president trump is doing. >> i'm not interested in futile gestures. it won't accomplish border security or getting government working. i think senator schumer knows that. you can teach a goat how to

climb a tree. but you are better off hiring a squirrel in the first place. the schumer proposal will do neither. liz: is there light at the end of the tunnel? president trump just speaking before a chuck schumer meeting with mitch mcconnell. in the senate a purely symbolic vote rejected two competing votes to stop the shutdown. we'll bring you the news with instant analysis. democrats got more votes for their plan with no border wall funding. it reopens the government temporarily through february 8. but what will be the end game? what's final compromise? he may veto any bill that does

not have border wall funding. that's what he was indicating moments ago. we'll show you who crossed party lines. venezuela now has two presidents. venezuelans increasingly tell us don't let socialism happen in america. the top tax rates the socialists are talk about in america wiped out the middle class in venezuela. non-emergency government workers in venezuela are being ordered to leave. we are also getting in brand-new video into our studios of what is going on on the streets of caracas. it's absolute mayhem. you won't believe what we are about to show you. there is talk of an oil embargo and oil blockade.

we'll talk about what will be the end game for venezuela. we are taking it all on. we have a jam packed show. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. eye-opening action in d.c. today. edward lawrence is there. reporter: just now a group of republican lawmakers just left the white house meeting with the president talking about a way to go forward. both the republican plan supported by donald trump and a democratic plan failed in the senate. either reached the 60-vote fresh hold. the president still looking for a solution. president trump: we have to have border security. you cannot have border security without a wall.

we can play games and talk about technology and drones flying around. reporter: some interesting defections by the republicans in the senate. >> the vote for the president's proposal failed. we went to see the second. i voted for the second alternative as well because i want to see government get open and government workers get paid. it's having an effect on our economy and more importantly it's having an effect on the lives of our citizens not to have work and not to be paid. reporter: a possible breakthrough in the failures. senator ben cardin said after the votes failed, 18 senators rp republican and democrats introduced a resolution for

money for border security and reopens the government. >> we are committed to work together to come up with a bipartisan proposal for border security in this country. reporter: it will give federal workers back pay and a paycheck for three more weeks. late this evening press secretary sarah sanders said the president will include the resolution only if it includes a down payment for the wall. liz: the president said nancy pelosi made an indication that he agreed with nancy pelosi to delay the state of the union until the government reopens. reporter: the president saying he'll wait until the government shutdown was completed to do the state of the union. if this continuing resolution comes through, it could come

quickly if both sides agree in is momentum in the senate by the. that could allow the state of the union to go on on time. liz: dow futures pointing up and the & ap and the -- and the s & p, and the nasdaq as well. let's get gerri willis with your market wrap. >> the dow ending down 6 points, up 3. the nasdaq up 47. what was going on here, the semi conduct tores were doing great. after hours intel reporting results for the quarter. they had a revenue mix. that stock off by 7%. they came in at 18.7 billion.

earnings per share were beat at $1.28. airline stocks doing well. reporting with good reports from american airlines, southwest, and jetblue. higher earnings bottom line for all three of those companies. the folks at jetblue saying they were close to a tipping point where the shutdown is likely to create delays and cancellations for customers. we were looking at the blue chip stocks particularly today. liz: the ceo of bank of america warnings the fighting in d.c. could have long-term ramifications for the u.s. economy. we are seeing cracks on both sides. both democrats and republicans seem to be bucking the party line to get the government open again. let's get to the democrat side. senator joe manchin voting yes to both proposals.

6 republicans voted for the house version to temporarily open the government through february 8. but we also have there is action. watch this. blue dog democrats. we are talking about those guys and gals within the 40 yard line. they want a bipartisan summit, bring both sides together to stop the shutdown. let's bring in republican senator john hogan. this is starting to tip over in the polls. the polls are saying stop the shutdown. voters are saying it's wrong to play this game and using people's lives to get what you want politically. >> we need to stay at this until we get it done. we have negotiations going on. let's keep negotiating and voting and get something done. it should include not only

funding the remaining 25% of government, but also securing the border. but we are close. let's get it done. liz: the president said technology sounds great at the border, but what often hatches is the technology is sometimes planted on top of border walls. >> they voted for the wall before. for border security, you need people, technology and a wall. edward lawrence 6 republicans voted for the house democrat version to reopen the government. lamared a ex an der. mitt romney, susan collins, cory gardner, lisa murkowski. the speech writer says you can't

reward president trump for hostage taker. >> there is the fold quote i belong to no political party, i'm a democrat. but i think in this case we understand if you cave to this kind of hostage taking the tomorrow thing you are going to get is more hostage taking. liz: there has been a government suchdown almost every year since -- shutdown' every year since the 70s. this isn't about hostage taking. it's about doing what the voters want with border security. >> speaker pelosi says she won't agree to any funding fear wall or barrier. they agreed to it in the past. you can make that same argument either way. we get a compromise that does

both. that's what we are trying to do. >> are they going to split the difference between $1.3 billion and come up with $3 billion? >> the administration has already talked about different numbers. one of the ones being talked about now is maybe some short-term opening of the government funding the balance of government, combined with some commitment to fund a border barrier. liz: how can you have that commitment? that's another olive branch to shop is being obstructionist. the voters are done with that. nancy pelosi doesn't stone her office. she works for the taxpayer. how do you guarantee you get that money? >> you need enough democrat senators to come on board and say we'll agree to provide border security funding that includes funding for a border

wall. we'll have to get democrat senators to work us on it. liz: you wonder if dreamers are hearing that. nancy pelosi is not going to take a dreamer deal even for $1. >> that's why it's important to get senators to work us on a common-sense solution and then send it over to the house. liz: what do you think about giving president trump $5.7 billion for a smart wall. the president said that's all well and good but you need a physical barrier. >> you need all three. you need people, technology and the barrier. if we can get something like that put together, there would be enough democrats in the house. liz: newt gingrich says the white house should sweeten the deal to attract democrats.

the daca deal has a lot of fees and penalties. the democrats say the president started that to begin with because he yanked daca and now he's trying to give it back with tighter restrictions. >> the point is, he's negotiating. he's trying to couple a compromise the democrats say they want in the deal. liz: thanks for coming in, sir. come back soon. central americans are inundating the guatemala-mexico border as mexico has shown leniency with new humanitarian visas. breaking numbers. about 12,000 people want those visas. there is a bottleneck there. the trump administration will soon return asylum-seeking migrants back to mexico to wait

for their u.s. immigration court hearing. we'll take you to the chaos in venezuela. we have new video coming in. protesters taking government property. venezuelans newses coming in, literally starving to death by the thousands under the socialist regime. this is happening in our hemisphere and the protesters are not taking it anymore. the venezuelans are applauding the trump white house for standing up. >> it is a very, very sad situation. so we have our eye closely on venezuela. i switched to liberty mutual because they let me customize my insurance, and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything. like my bike and my calves.

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liz: we are in corporate earnings season. we have executives talking more and more about the shutdown. back in d.c., this was a temperature-taking exercise in the senate. both bills were expected to be voted down. but polls across the board are saying do your job, congress. if you don't do your job, you don't get paid.

senator mark warner saying nobody gets paid when you do a shutdown. it's what we pay you for. get spending and budgets done. it's wrong to let workers stand in food lines. it's wrong that they are doing their jobs without pay. it's wrong that tsa is warning about airport security. and irs refund checks are being delayed because of the callout. >> all of those point are wrong. butter time you hear a democratic leader step up to the microphone and say this is solely part of president trump's to fix, they are lying to you. they are part of the decision.

they say the president is behind this. if you want to bring relief to the people suffering under this, all the people you just laid out. you can do that by coming to the table and compromising to the table. liz: how about taking the cameras down. stop going to the cameras and start negotiating. the federal interest on the federal debt is about to outstrip the military budget. >> it's become a spectacle. i would like to see the president emphasize the amount of pain the democrats are causing federal workers. i'm in d.c. i talk to government workers, federal workers who support the president of the united states and support his efforts to get our border secure every single day. they say they want to see him hold up this fight and they

blame nancy pelosi. liz: a lot of fox news polls show his approval rating is going down and they blame him for the shutdown. >> that goes to my last point. some of the messages on this has been bad. i don't think republicans have their hearts in this. he seems like the only guy in washington who wants to fight for border security. you have the republican party, basically president trump fighting for the virtue of getting a border and stopping another vietnam-type crisis with opioids. the other side is trying to keep president trump from getting a political victory. liz: mick mulvaney is asking for a list of government programs that will be affected by a

continued shutdown. how long can this go on? >> not much longer. you have federal families using food banks. this is 800,000 people affected by it at the government level who need relief. that includes our great coast guard, the tsa. people in the justice department. they need to it to come teen end. liz: the california utility blamed for the deadly wildfires in that state, pg & e doing a big pushback on a federal judge's demand that pg & e must inspect and trim any trees and knock down any trees and branches that go anywhere near their power lines. pg & e claims that would cost it

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primetime next year like they said they would be. look at this. a group of 110 individuals from central america illegally trying to jump over a section of the border wall in yuma. we'll give you that update. and we'll bring you the turmoil in venezuela. two presidents, the opposition juan guaido is getting more support around the world. the. the venezuela military is backing maduro. our grandparents checked their smartphones

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let's get to hillary vaughn. reporter: microsoft is staying quiet about why china held their bing site hostage. service has since been restored. in an exclusive interview with maria bartiromo, smith says they were not given a heads up that their search engine was going to be taken offline. >> periodically there are issues that arise and it leads to our service or other services being blocked. we understand we don't have the same legal freedom we do in other countries. but at the same time, we stick to our guns. reporter: this isn't the first time this has happened. china has banned bing in the past when they have been at odds

with china over their censorship. smith says they have been able to stay online by maintaining delicate negotiations with the comien ease government. but tensions today are very tense. liz: a dozen people killed in violent protests in cara cushion. the government has imprisons 700 people possibly more. thousands of people literally starving to death. the middle class entirely wiped out by property seizures and high tax rates. a quarter million people have left the country. vladimir putin calling nicolas maduro expressing russia's support. russia has given billions in loans to venezuela.

>> this is horrible. what a human tragedy. it reminds me of the people's revolution and people power in the mill means that replaced marcos. and also in 1989. the movements around europe when the wall was breached. i think mikhail gorbachev was overrated. but he didn't fire on his own people. that's the big deal. that's the scary part about venezuela. are the people going to have their own military firing on them? liz: you are about to see individual protesters taking a government truck. this an indication of the collapse of venezuela. venezuela used to have buses like you would see in any city. now instead they have government trucks being used as buses. protesters seized that bus, took

it and now they are trying to go after ma durp oh supporters. this is outright anarchy. >> venezuela should be a rich country. at the end of the day socialism is built on fours. if people don't go along with what you say, you have got to take it away from them. look at the shortages, what's happening to these human beings. people criticizing the president for recognizing the interim government? liz: when the socialists took over the oil sector there it collapsed to $1 billion barrels a day. some media outlets criticizing the opposition to maduro as a

negative. >> the opposition leader has not said he's president. he's interim president. he's going to have elections. the only reason maduro is there is because he rigged the last election. when you see these people out in the streets, when you read about the suffering and somehow the idea is that we are being mean to the maduro people is crazy. liz: what venezuelans are telling us is as follows. when you have socialism, the first income bracket that's gone after is the middle class and the lower brackets, but you have to pay for it. they are worried about the' tax rates ocasio-cortez wants. >> when you talk about those

rates, you are saying the government should have this choice and they should force people to do -- the market is about freedom of contract, right? to paraphrase mark, everyone is born free but they are in contract with their neighbors. that's what the free market is. liz: a former marxist said why do we have to take on communism and socialism. >> there is a lot of competition there. what's happening in venezuela is an outrage, and it's a human tragedy of great proportions. venezuela is a reverse-rich country with talented people, given the freedom to do what they want, they would be prosperous. they should be leading. >> come back soon. we love having you on.

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and the interim president juan guaido. hundreds are being imprisoned and tortured. mae maduro has given the military control over the gold and oil. >> any economic pressure has to be measured because the people are starving. this could ghoip flames in a heartbeat. if maduro tries to arrest guaido or kills him, this will see massive riots. i believe thatments the point at

which the military will switch sides. liz: the military would switch sides? >> i believe the military -- the indication that the military is not totally committed. they were so late in proclaiming allegiance to maduro. liz: we have the issue of venezuelans calling in and saying tell socialists like bernie sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez to stop talk. you don't know what you are talking about. you are going to ruin the u.s. with your policies. when you have a middle class you have to tax the middle class and the lower brackets to get what you want to pay for it. here is general jack keane said might be the fix. watch. >> we could take a page out of

ronald reagan book. in 1986, he along with his national security team engineered the removal of marcos from the philippines. hundreds of thousands of people on the streets. they created an exit for him out of the country. took him to hawaii and assured him there would be no recriminations in the sense we would return them to the philippines for trial. >> i think there is zero chance maduro would be willing to do anything like that with the united states. that said, i think it's entirely feasible the united states could work some of our allies to get somebody to offer him asylum to guarantee his security. that's a good option. when the military switches sides, and i think they will as this thing unked folds. especially if there is a lot of looting and killing in the streets. if he has not left by that time he's a dead man and he knows

that. there * a lot of options and it will have to be done through a third party. liz: this is how bad the collapse is in venezuela. they used to have a regular city bus system. you are looking at government trucks used to bus people. those are protesters seizing a bus to go after maduro supporters. >> bolivia decided to side with him. cuba decided to be on his side, and russia. i think chain pa probably would not because they are so dependent upon that oil, they got future oil from maduro. so i think there are only a handful of countries willing to do that right now. bolivia is probably only one in latin american region that would. liz: we love your expertise.

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liz: central americans inundating mexico. there is a big surge at the guatemala-mexico border. 12,000 central american migrants, many from honduras, they are taking up mexico's offer of the humanitarian visas. this comes after mexico decided to fast track those visas so they could enter legally. last week it was 7,000, 8,000 people. now it's 12,000. tonight the "wall street journal" breaking news reporting the u.s. will start returning some asee you slum seeking migrants to mexico to await thaimplet s. court hearing.

ruling, rather. let's bring in attorney general ken paxton. what do you think of this current situation? >> it doesn't sound humanitarian to me to let these people come on this long journey where they are at risk of violence and women being raped and taking children through difficult circumstances. and the uncertainty of getting into this country being unlikely if they do get in this country. liz: what should mexico have done instead. somewhat they were doing before. they were preventing some of these people from coming in. i think they should protect their own border and stop this process from going on. liz: we are a humanitarian country. mexico extended humanitarian gestures.

this caravan is more than 2,000 miles from the u.s.-mexico border, but the mayor of tijuana says its government is not prepared to handle this incoming group. what can be done about that? >> this is something congress needs to deal with. they need to decide what the policy is on immigration. i don't blame the president for protecting our borders. we don't know whether we have terrorists or criminals coming in. it's a problem. liz: you are saying d.c. has to wake up to what's going on and have a common sense conversation and debate about the incentives in our laws and mexico's laws attracting economic migrants to come in, right? >> exactly. if we build the wallet will

discourage people from coming here and hopefully we can have a reasonable policy. we can't let everyone in this country. but we can decide who we want and who is going to benefit and what our policy is. liz: one in five in the world would like to come here. let's show the footage of what happened at the yuma, arizona border scaling over the wall. >> the wall makes sense. we are in a border state. we have to deal with human trafficking and the down side of an unsecure border. i challenge people, what do we do with these issues if we don't have some type of wall and security system to keep people out. it affects people in my state

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reaction? >> we've been talking about this for a while, democrat have come out with numbers 71% of people support it, that is when you say would you support medicare for all if it made healthcare all right. if you get deeper in the polling it drops, eliminate private health care. 31 to 37% and. if you say, you could have longer delays. 26%. and not many people support what it would mean to have medicare for all. we have talked about many times, 32 trillion dollar it would add over 10 years is unaforaffordab. liz: democrats according to kaiser family found doing in a separate poll, people who are most in the dark are democrats. majority have no idearc cord to

poll have -- according to that poll have no idea, you poll on singer payer, you tell them it is singer payer, government controls everything, everyone hates it. >> this is not only issue we see similar polling on, with a broad poll people don't understand, most important thing we can do is get out, make sure voters understand the issue. they need to understand how this would impact their lives, and how they need to be voting. not on the talking points. liz: we have health experts who looked into it. what alexandria ocasio-cortez and bernie sanders and democrats want is more radical and more socialized than china has, when scandanavia has, they are endorsing a plan that basically china does not even have. people in sweden pay out of pocket and finland. this would have no out of

pocket, but one payer, the government, no insurance on your own. go ahead. >> it is a terrible idea, wait times for people suffering from diseases, illnesses or a simple coal would increase. -- cold would increase equality of care i don't think would be as good. and doctors in the professio prl industry would be driven out. hard to survive with the type of pay they would begets. liz: why did bernie sanders home state of vermont reject this, why do colorado, reject it. and in california rejected single payer? >> they rejected it, it is not so great. we look to canada a lot of people come over to united states. we have to improve.

liz: madison thank you so much, thank you watching. lou dobbs is next. on fox business network. have a good night. lou: good evening today senate voted on two pills that would have ended or ended for about 5 weeks government shut down. one of those bills would have given the president 5.7 billion as a substantial installment on building the border wall. republican bill, and democratic bill, voted down. it was not close. architects of train wreck of senate floor, leaders mitch mcconnell and schumer got together after to discuss how to get some kind of a resolution on the wall and the shut down. president trump making it clear he will agree only if there is l