the drugs are pouring in. lou: the president making clear it is a crisis on our border, that it is a national emergency. that's it for us tonight. we thank you for being with us. good night from new york. trish: a russia-u.s. showdown in socialist venezuela as the people take to the streets by the hundreds of thousands. these scenes usual look at them unfold in caracas. over two dozen people are now dead, and vladimir putin is trying to call the shots and attempting to capitalize on that country's vulnerable state. vladimir putin telling the world dictator nicolas maduro that he has russia's full support after the u.s. and the free world

recognize juan guaido as venezuela's real president. i will talk to national security advisor john bolton. we'll get his take on how this could become the next cold war. right here in the western hemisphere. here tonight, sean spicer, ben stein, and many more. "trish regan primetime" begins right now. breaking right now. socialist dictator nicolas maduro lashing out at the u.s., cozying up to russia as he attempts to cling to power in venezuela. this after juan guaido swore himself in and was backed by the rest of the free world as that country's rightful leader following massive protests in the streets of caracas. maduro stole the previous election.

he locked up and tortured anyone trying to unseat him. juan guaido who according to his own country's constitution is the rightful leader. venezuela is ordering american diplomats in venezuela to return home to the u.s. immediately. and declaring they must leave in the next 47 hours. tonight as this rogue social why it dictator continues to lose his grip on power he's running straight into the arms of vladimir putin. vladimir putin who wants nothing more than to establish his presence in our hemisphere. joining me right now, national security advisor, john bolton. welcome to the program. we have a lot going on there in our own hemisphere. we have vladimir putin saying

he's on maduro's side. extending his warm wishes to maduro and arounding his support. what does that mean for us, given this is a country less than 3 hours from miami by plane. >> it's right in our backyard. our recognition of a new constitutional interim president has been joined by over a dozen latin american countries. one of the most of remarkable things about what we are seeing is the free countries of this hemisphere are aligned against maduro overwhelmingly. china, russia, cuba, iran, these countries that are authoritarian themselves i think are demonstrating to everybody they shall not on the side of the venezuelan people. trish: the venezuelan people have spoken. you have only to see what happened with hundreds of thousands of people in the streets marching peacefully. they want a chance for freedom. they want a democracy, they want

to be able to elect their leader and not live under this socialist, criminal regime. tell me what nicolas maduro and hugo chavez did to the people that country. >> they impoverished venezuela. we have between 3 to 4 million refugees who have fled the country. ma dish oh and chavez before them systematically looted the oil resources of the country. there has been no capital investment. income is declining. sill society is collapsing in venezuela, which is why the stakes are so high and president trump did spend recognition to the interim president as the real constitutional authority. if we miss this chance, i think most of observers think it will be a long time before the venezuelaian people will be free. trish: we missed these

opportunities before and venezuela missed the opportunity to be free because there was a time when hugo chavez was overthroab for a couple of days, but the military sided with him. nicolas maduro allegedly has the support of his military. if he has the military, where does that leave president guaido, the opposition and assembly members who tell me many of them are worried about their own safety and their own lives right now because these are enemies effectively of maduro's state. >> i don't think maduro has the military. he has statement by his minister of defense who owes his job to maduro. i think the average service member is have much on the side of juan guaido, the interim president. i think the military is still up in the air. the fact that they have stayed in their barracks the last 30 hours, maduro can't count on

them to follow his orders. so there are extensive cushions by members of the national assembly with the military haven't in play. today here in washington we have been looking at ways to disconnect maduro from the financial resources he made to pay the military and otherwise keep himself in power. that could be an effective way, we think, much helping the legitimate government. trish: how do we do that? >> we already informed the federal reserve that guaido is the legitimate leader of the government. all maduro assets in this country now belong to interim president guaido. maduro doesn't have control or it. we are looking at oil resources. we want everybody to know we are looking at all this seriously. we don't want american

businesses or investors caught by prize. they can see what president trump did yesterday. we are following through. >> you think of a company like citgo which is the state-run oil company in venezuela. we have a lot of those citgo assets in the u.s. is that something you are looking at? >> we are in conversation with major american countries that either were in venezuela or citgo in the united states. i think we are trying to get to the same end result. venezuela is one of the three countries i call it the troyka of tyranny. it would make a difference if we could have american companies produce the oil in venezuela. it would be good for venezuela and the people of the united states. we all have a lot at stake making this come out the right way. trish: it's hard to see a

country that enjoyed up a high standard of living now be in such a desperate state with 90% of the people living in poverty. let me ask you about the people we have on the ground. nicolas maduro told them they have 72 hours as of yesterday to get out. that means everybody will be out by saturday. if we have american diplomats still on the ground, what might he do and what might we do? >> i can tell you president trump, vice president pence, secretary pompeo, and myself, are deeply concerned about the safety of americans in venezuela. we are taking a number of steps now to help insure that safety. don't want to get into the specifics. but were working hard on it. maduro gave our diplomats 72 hours to get out. he doesn't have the authority to do that. he's not the legitimate

president. the diplomats stayed in swrens last night and they will day there again tonight. we'll monitor this on an hourly basis to make sure our people are safe. the latin american countries that recognize guaido have the same problem. we are all working together. we want to do what we can to show guaido is the legitimate government. we presented our diplomatic yes tension dengses to him. -- our diplomatic credentials to him. maduro would make a major mistake to citizens in venezuela. trish: you, sir, he says has tried to assassinate him. i asked delcy rodriguez about that. and she confirmed the russians were giving him this information. what else your response to that?

>> i enjoy fiction as much as the next person. it falls in that category. we are trying to do the right thing from the perspective of the american national interest and the venezuelan people. that's what we are after here. trish: is there a potential amnesty being worked out behind the scenes for nicolas maduro and a promise to military members we are not going to put you on trial and throw you in jail for war crimes? >> we would like the peaceful transfer of power. for maduro to say, i'm out of here, go to another country and live in a nice villa on the beach for the rest of his life. the national assembly granted amnesty to captains, majors, living almost in poverty themselves. it would facilitate a peaceful transfer of power and people who

have been responsible for repression left the country, we could work with that. this is up to the people of venezuela ultimately to decide how to handle this. trish: it sounds like there is a lifeline for some of those dictators that need to move to the side and live happily ever after. a very important story. we'll stay on it. i appreciate you joining us here tonight. we are going to have more on venezuela momentarily. i'll be talking to one of the freedom fighters that lives in exile. some speculating that the president may soon draft an executive order to build a wall. after two bills utterly failed in the senate. this is the longest shutdown in history and is set to stretch into a 35th day. meaning a second paycheck is going to be missed for hundreds of thousands of americans tomorrow.

i'll tell you what, this is absolutely positively pathetic. and the democrats who once supported stronger borders don't want them. and they don't want them because donald trump does. that's kind of messed up. and i have got to say, there is a little bit of steam here given we are break all this news here. there is a theme of very poor political behavior. politics over what is right and what is good for the people. and that is a mistake. joining me right now, former white house press secretary and spokesman for america first action. sean spicer. what's your verdict. do you think the president will declare a national emergency at our border? >> i don't know. you don't ever know with president trump until he does it. but i do think that the president recognizes the pain

that this shutdown is having not just on the workers and contractors. but in the trickle-down economy we live in. the drivers and bellhops the waitresses and waiters that are part of the lunch stops the workers go to. the economy in so many areas around federal installations. the people that run the coffee shop. this has been a painful time for so many people in our country to be able to pay their own bills. i think the president is well aware of that. what you are seeing evolve today with the senate votes, the president's remarks that he is willing to see what mcconnell and schumer will come up with that will strike a balance. if they do something absent a wall, the democrats made it very clear. this is all stuff they supported. this is about trump, not about the policy.

if they continue to be object city in the, he'll have no choice but to open the government and achieve the goal he set forth to protect the country through additional border security measures in whatever way is necessary. trish: we are not functioning right now and we keep highlighting venezuela. we have got a government that cares more about pool particulars and tit for tat than helping the people. the tsa workers showing up for their job. i know none of us like the tsa. but a lot of people still not getting paid because nancy pelosi and the rest of her cronies are too selfish. sean, i know there is a book coming out on the trump administration. it's kind of a burn book, if you would. it's called "team of vipers" and apparently goes after everyone in the white house including

you. >> i think the tsa in particular has gone the singled out. they are amazing people who have continued to go to work. this is all about security. whether it's border security, airline security. all of what we have been talking about is to protect our people. god bless the individuals continuing to go to work to secure our freedom and keep us safe. on the book, i was honored to serve this country in so many ways dplught white house. it was a privilege. the idea that somebody is using that opportunity to settle scores and to tell inside baseball stories, some of which are false is disrespectful and disloyal to the president of the united states. and shows a lack of respect for the honor and privilege they were given. it is disappointing to no end to see this go on. trish: i am sure it is. there is more similarities than

we would like to see between ourselves and these poor governments in latin america right now. good to see you tonight. coming up. brand-new video of migrants attempting to enter our country illegally. sources telling us there have been some very bad actors in these caravans. steve hilton is here on that next. plus my exclusive interview with a venezuelan freedom fighter living in exile here in america. his warning to all those on the far left right now in the united states who are pushing their socialist agendas. that's next. will it feel like the wheend of a journey?p working, or the beginning of something even better?

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trish: you see what the united states is going through with this rights around social i'm deals. >> freedom works. free markets work. trish: that was vice president mike pence in my exclusive interview last night. the vice president is right. freedom does work. free markets work. you know what doesn't work? i'll tell what you doesn't work.

socialism doesn't work. if you look around the world at anybody who tried it. all of those economics and nations, they all failed one after another. because socialism cannot deliver. you are stripping away people's dreams and ambitions. this is something economist ben stein knows very well. and he pointed out rightly so on this program just the other night. the left is attacking him. he's under fire for saying just that. you know what? when you have socialists in power, eventually they can't function anymore. eventually those regimes wind up as dictatorships which is exactly what we are seeing in venezuela. on my program tuesday he said all that. yet you get tons of backlash. here is "the washington post."

ben stein compares alexandria ocasio-cortez to take i tores such as hitler and stalin. he was taken out of context. but ben stein was right when he says socialism and the tearing up of constitutions as hugo chavez did when he came to power. ben stein is here to address the crazy pushback. you really ignited a firestorm. >> i say it doesn't seem to can affecting my life. i didn't know about it until you told me about it. it doesn't affect my life have much. but i never said that miss ocasio-cortez was like hitler or stalin. i said when socialism becomes a dictatorship it never brings justice and equality.

it uses force and murder and concentration camps to take away from those who have and give to those who don't have or give to those in power. in socialism only the top are rich it's hard to point to a socialist country or predominantly socialist as being a rich country. there might be some. it would be rare. but to point to socialist countries that become dictatorships would be easy. trish: money doesn't grow on trees. and socialists for some reason think there is an infinite pot of the money and if they take some from people even though they don't deserve it. what they are forgetting is the importance of aspiration and

risk taking and how you need to excite people to do those things. if there is no payoff, why bother? >> well, what people like miss ocasio-cortez are thinking this is some evil gob flin -- gobline souls of the billionaires that takes money out of the piggy banks of the poor. that's not how it works. they invent a better mousetrap, a better waive investing. something that works better for the ordinary citizen and they get a small piece of profit from that. the money that -- the idea that the money the billionaires have is taken away from the poor is ridiculous. it's kind of scary that a member of congress would have such a childish idea. rockefeller became fantastically

rich. he didn't do it by making people poor with he did it by making the price of gasoline very low. trish: in her case, taking away 70% of income. castro in texas wants to think about 90%. a system like that doesn't work, and the proof historically shows that. >> it's not only that they lose their money. that's a bad thing. but people lose their freedom in a socialist country. if you lose the freedom to do what you want to do, to use your own aspirations to do something better for the whole society. there is a reason america is the largest industrial power in the world. this a reason china is an impoverished country. it has to do with free markets and free enterprise. it has to do with letting people

use their ingenuity to do what they want to do better than people have done it before. you cannot point to a large industrialized socialist country doing well. maybe denmark, but it's a small country and would be an exception. trish: denmark does have some capitalism working there. i'm glad you laid it out there. alexandria ocasio-cortez would be well served to take an economics lesson from her. >> if i met her i would be happy to teach her. trish: i would love for her to come on. i don't think she would dare. >> i don't think she is scared of much. trish: i think she is scared of one thing.

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and the wall built? >> yes, we need the government back up and running mainly so those people get the money they need to live it, unfair and terrible they are the victims of this game playing in washington, d.c. but we need the border to be protected because of the increasing i have day by day of the crime' and drugs and the problems just staring you in the face. it's indefensible for the democrats to say we are not going to do anything about this because they want to deny the president of another promise delivered. trish: a lot of viewers are reaching out saying i don't understand this. the president wants that wall at our border. on the other, he's look at what's going on or his administration is in venezuela saying we support juan guaido as the president of that country,

and we support democracy and freedom, and we want to see people have economic opportunity there. and viewers are saying i thought we didn't necessarily want to help anyone in latin america. can you have that wall, secure your border wall simultaneously trying to stabilize that region so you don't have a crisis of migrants flooding towards the u.s.? >> that's exactly right. that's the entire connection. if that country goes further and further into the abyss, the flows' people trying to flee the disaster is going to increase. that's one of the reasons the neighboring countries, one of the reasons you have the alliance coming in behind president trump is they are seeing millions of refugees from the maduro regime. getting rid of maduro is part of the potential problem in terms of migration flows into america.

trish: if people had economic opportunity and freedom in the countries in which they were born, then you have done a whole lot for solving this crisis while simultaneously protecting your own border. >> yes, exactly right. people don't want to leave their place of birth generally speaking. by the way, that's great if they come to america and contribute to our society. but millions of people leaving country? that's not what we should want. and certainly what president trump is trying to avoid. but also dealing with the venezuelan regime. >> he happens a huge opportunity and he could go down in history for having accomplished so much if he's able to solve much of this problem. steve hilton, it's good to see you. catch steve every sunday night.

all right. we are keeping a close eye on venezuela tonight because we are getting a lot of news out of that country. socialist dictator nicolas maduro sending his military to hunt opposition leaders as he tries to deny freedom and capitalism to all of these protesters. the hundreds of thousands in the streets. i'm talking to a freedom fighter who is now living in exile here in america. his message to the people of venezuela tonight. plus his warning to those on the far left, those alt-left democrats who continue to push their socialist agenda. that's next. arket when it might be time to buy or sell? with fidelity's real-time analytics, you'll get clear, actionable alerts about potential investment opportunities in real time. fidelity. open an account today.

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opposition leaders fearing for their lives. nicolas maduro claiming he has the military on his side, something john bolton disputed, and he's threatening american diplomats and threatening the freedom fighterrers in venezuela as he desperately tries to cling to power with putin and hezbollah backing him up. the opposition leaders' lives are in danger. they are moving from place to place to evade detection from maduro's troops. juan guaido, the one the free world recognizes as the leader of venezuela. even he's moving locations at a

rapid pace. joining us next a freedom fighter in exile, mr. carlos vecchio who has been in constant contact with the freedom fighters in venezuela. you have a dictator who won't let go. how in danger are members of the opposition. people daring to speak out quite bravely like you did against nicolas maduro and against socialism and that dictatorship? >> the only two that the dictator had to contend the spirit of change is terror and repression. if you are a political opponent you can pay with jail, with arrest or death. only to express your idea. so yes we have to confront this dictatorship and we are at risk.

all the people of venezuela for expressing political ideas. trish: i know you were in push with leopold lopez who is a freedom fighter and considered one of the most of if not the most of popular politician there in venezuela. he was jailed for five years, he was tortured in jail for five years by nicolas maduro. he's now under house arrest. what's he telling you about conditions on the ground? and what are other sources telling you? >> it's a tremendous crisis. we need to stop the suffering of the people. the scarcity of basic goods and medicine is important. while maduro tries to keep the power, that will continue in venezuela. the power in venezuela, we are claiming the interim government of juan guaido. and one of the mission we have in venezuela is to end the

dictatorship in venezuela. second, we need to insure a democratic transition, establishing a transition of government and call for a free election. that's our election. that's what i have been talking with leopoldo. trish: since 199 your country has lived under the likes of chavez and maduro under socialism. what has socialism done to venezuela? and if you are able to have those free elections and i believe you will, how will thing change for the people and change for your economy. >> we are facing the worst economic and political crisis in our entire history. the economic collapse is even worse than the special period during the 90s. and it's double the great depression in the united states. we are paying with the lives of

the vendian people. that's why the people are leaving our country. they are being forced because this situation. from their political point of view, we don't have freedom of speech or political rights. we'll have this year 10 million percent of inflation, the highest in the world. from the social point of view, i just mentioned basic goods and medicine. the poverty has increased 87%. this is a disaster and this ways we want to change. we need a democracy with separation of power and rule of law. we need to call for a free and fair election. we need an open economy and increase our oil production. and from the social point of view we need to help those people in the line of poverty to take advantage of the economic progress. trish: so much can be done, should be done it's a country

sitting on natural resources. and it's a shame that you see people in some cases going without food, starving, because there is none. there is no ability to move forward and have any kind of economic prosperity in that regime. let me ask you, carlos, in terms of your own story. you fled nicolas maduro. you came to america. you were given asylum here. truly an asylum seeker. but you were threatened because you spoke out. what happened? you went 100 days into hiding. your wife was pregnant at the time. it had to be terrifying. i admire all of you for our bravery. tell us briefly your story. it was 2014. for expressing my political idea maduro put an order of arrest against me. i had to support three violent attempts of arrest.

they couldn't capture me. i spent 100 days in hiding. my wife was pregnant and i was afraid we could lose the baby. fortunately we have the baby. he's now four years old and he's an american. but the most of important thing for me is since i have been here, i have been fighting to retore democracy. i know people in venezuela are suffering more and more. and we need to stop that. from here we can do more. and something which is very important to mention as well. we have a very clear opportunity this moment in time. i would say the most of important. but we cannot do this alone. we need the international community to support the interim government of juan guaido. trish: the united states of america is with you, sir. >> i mow that. and i thank the trump administration for the support we have received from them.

trish: carlos, many thanks. coming up. just days after democrat beto o'rourke questioned the relevance of our constitution in modern times. another democrat has taken aim at our constitution which is the bedrock of our great nation. the separation of powers so critical to the united states and our freedom. 2020 presidential hopeful kirsten gillibrand says our supreme court need reform. ridiculous comments next. i hear it in the background and she's watching too, saying [indistinct conversation] [friend] i've never seen that before. ♪ ♪ i have...

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trish: 2020 presidential candidate democrat jill brand thinks our supreme court needs to be changed. listen. >> potentially adding seats, potentially instituting term limits. what do you think of those ideas? >> they are interesting ideas that i would need to think more about. but i do think what president trump has dwont judiciary is shock and so destructive. i thought both kavanaugh and gorsuch were disqualified. >> do you think the supreme court needs reform? >> it does. trish: democrats attempting to

mold and shape the constitution to fit their views and their agenda. forget what's actually worked for 230 years. right? dangerous territory. dangerous. joining me now, ned ryun and democratic strategist kevin chavez. ned, i remember 1999 when hugo chavez tore up that constitution. you know what he did? he took over the supreme court. i just wonder, if senator gillibrand's desire to see something different on the supreme court has to do with the fact that you have the president getting two appointees and potentially may get another. >> that's right. it's always amazing to me that progressives think things are broken when they lose. think about 2016 when they lost the white house, they thought the electoral college was sexist

and racist. now you have senator jill brand saying that scotus is broken and in need of reform. it's bent favorite tool of the progressive left to do an end run around the legislative process and grow the legislative state. a restoration of constitutional order, putting originallive judges on the bench who understand there are three coequal branches. and the judiciary is not meant to be a super judiciary body. trish: having a republic government and checks and balances with freedom, opportunity and capitalism, this is what made america such and success. why do the democrats want to take it all away? >> i think it's a misconception

that this idea spawns simply just from democrats in has been talk of judicial reform and reforming the ways the courts are seated and the way justices are confirmed for a while now. if you look the numbers. public confidence in the courts has dropped precip usually ever since the clarence thomas nomination. trish: politics. this is what i'm saying. when you allow politics to get in the way of what has always been a good system, checks and balances. you run the risk, kevin. and then four better than socialist venezuela. and we are seeing in real-time how that experiment has played out. >> nobody is saying the system should change and mirror a country like venezuela. trish: alexandria ocasio-cortez kind of likes it.

but keep going. >> there are common sense reforms. what about a term limit. 18 years or so. justices are living longer. i don't think that's what the founders intended when they decided that justices would serve for life. trish: what did they intend, what did they intend? they could never have imagined the world we live in now. i will give you that. but ned, they understood human instincts. they did. and whether you have got all the stuff that we have now, they understood the importance of checks and balances. and it's important that we respect that. >> the most of important thing the founders got right, trish, is the separation of powers. the diffusion of power because they didn't trust human nature. to loosely quote james madison, we are no angels. we are capable of great good and incapable of sustaining good.

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