know. >> give it 3 points. my last look at it. 2 1/2. >> everybody is playing. that does it for "bulls and bears." we'll see you back here next time. president trump: it's getting built one way or another. but we'll be looking at a national emergency because i don't think anything is going to happen. i think democrats don't want border security. when i hear them talk about walls are immoral and walls don't work, they know they work. nancy pelosi should be ashamed of herself because she is hurting a lot of people. liz: we are tracking new reports indicating that president trump and his team are working on making a national emergency declaration to build a wall to get it 100% ready to launch february 15. that's the deadline for shutdown

talks to end. we are on that story. it's a story we brought you first weeks ago. how president trump can do that without congressional approval. the expert analysis on how trump can pull it off. it looks like democrat moderates are leaning more and more toward a border barrier. just don't call it a wall. sources telling fox business that thousands of separate demonstrations with millions of people are expected to power into the streets of caracas, venezuela tomorrow to protest socialist nicolas maduro. this as fox business learns maduro is moving to strip juan guaido and his commission, to remove them their parliamentary immunity to arrest and imprison them next week. maduro has sent swap * teams

sweeping through the barrios and slums. we are hearing reports that teenagers are being killed. this is maduro backed into a corner so that he's scrambling to raise cash to run his socialist government. he's moving to sell tons of central bank gold to the uae. and sanctions on their oil sector are bearing down. john bolton says no military troops yet. but all options are still on the table. a growing number of democrats from dick durbin now publicly rebuke socialists like alexandria ocasio-cortez and bernie sanders. they are saying you are dead wrong about venezuela. liberal filmmaker trying to claim starbucks ceo howard

schultz is not a self-made man and that billionaires are immoral. the companies they create employ tens of thousands of people. that includes people like oprah winfrey and howard schultz. i'm elizabeth macdonald. this is "the evening edit." welcome to the show, you are watching the fox business network. blake? >> president trump loves to have a viewing audience. earlier today he gave us another reason as to why we might want to tune into the state of the union address tuesday evening. the president saying he thinks the bipartisan committee on capitol hill try to be hammer out a border security package is a waste of time. he said he's certainly thinking about declaring a national emergency on the southern border. and the president said we may

get more clarity us dang. >> we'll be looking at a national emergency. because i don't think anything is going to happen. i think the democrats don't want border security. you will hear the state of the union and you will see what happens right after the state of the union. reporter: the president acknowledged the many challenges saying if he declared a national emergency along the southern border it could be appealed to the 9th circuit coast appeals, a court that has not been friendly to the president's policies. liz: a growing number of republican senators are urging president trump and nancy pelosi to step back, dial it down. give breathing room and give space to the bipartisan group. that's what the talk is. they are trying to get a border exclusion to prevent a second government shutdown. here is one republican saying just that.

>> where i think if we could maybe be left to our own devices, i think we could do it quite easily. >> are you talking about the president himself? >> and speaker. liz: susan collins and lisa murkowski said the president should stick to the sidelines. the democrats are talking about border fences and barriers. just don't call it a wall. what do you think president trump does with the national emergency? >> i think he declares it in the state of the union. the state of the union is his great opportunity to speak to the american people. if you want to make your case to people that's the place to do it. liz: how could stacey abrams make the rebuttal to that? >> i am not sure. the president and mrs. pelosi

seem to have intractable stance. i won't sign a bill without money for the border wall. the president is will fog negotiate and give her stuff for this, she is not. i think the president doesn't have a choice from his own sense this was a sitting issue. otherwise it's a big defeat for him if they give him nothing. liz: strip out the politics. dose have a choice, for the good of the country? >> i'm not sure the wall is the end all and be all of border security. but backed into a corner. what i would do if i was the president, i think he should offer a deal for the dreamers and split the emergency coalition. liz: the border patrol guys keep saying they need a wall. they need a backstop.

we are hearing from the him and mcclatchyy saying the democrats are moving towards a barrier, just don't call it a wall. >> i don't think speaker pelosi is moving towards that. watch this sound bite. >> she knows that the walls we have right now are working. she knows you can't secure a 1,900 border without using barriers. i think she doesn't want to use the word wall. that's okay. she can call it a wang doodle for all i care. liz: the president clearly frustrated. look at this tweet. >> this was his signature issue. the democratic priority is to deny president trump a political victory, no matter what. >> people are tired of it being politicized. they are tired of it.

that's what the polls are showing. let me ask you one other question. we have said weeks ago that the president can do this. he can use section 284 of the u.s. code, it's the pentagon's war and drugs. it allows them to build fences on the war on drugs. >> i think there is a constitutional case. the president will be invoking statutes, authorities congress has given him. question is, it becomes funding and it will be gummed up in the courts. liz: it's money already appropriated. what else is he going to do. >> i don't think he's going to let speaker pelosi inflict the big defeat on it. liz: now not a dollar? does that make sense? >> it does make sense in the sense if your priority is to say

we have a majority in the house in one chamber and not going to give him any political victory, even if it's for the good of the nation. our priority is to not let him get anything he wants. liz: here is president trump talking about human trafficking on the southern border. president trump: human trafficking can go down by a tremendous percentage if we had a wall on our southern border it's hard to do human trafficking through ports of entry. i don't think nancy had a clue. she is hurting this country so badly. >> my reaction is i'm not sure president trump is winning argument for the wall. the polls show that not -- but i think the important thing -- i think he's winning the argument that we have a problem at the border. the discussion is how big a problem we have at the border. in some ways he pushed the

debate in his direction. liz: he raised consciousness and awareness. but his rhetoric is white hot. >> that's what the state of the union is for. liz: she'll be sitting right behind him. >> and we'll see if she smiles. that's the advantage the president has, he'll outline his case. i am looking forward to it. one thing i say is one of the things speaker pelosi has done for the president is she raised interest in the state of the union. most of people don't like state of the unions. this one people will be tuning in for. >> come back soon. look at your money. look how it strayed on wall street. the dow clocking its 6th straight week of gains. fueled by a healthy january jobs report. solid earnings from exxon,

chevron. that's nearly double with the expectations were at 17. >> ,000. the dow and s & p closing at their highest level since december 3. still earnings at amazon, facebook, apple, microsoft. let's get market wrap from hillary vaughn. >> apple, facebook and amazon beat the expectations for earnings. this is the first time in a decade apple reported a holiday quarter decline in revenue and profit. amazon reported record-breaking holiday sales bringing in $3 billion in profit. this is the second year in a row amazon beat holiday estimates.

the revenue increased 12% year over year in the quarter for amazon. facebook surprised investors with 16.9 billion in revenue. they are 9% up on their facebook platform. and a 30% jump in instagram users on their story feature. more people are on facebook and instagram but that could be making people less happy. users were happier without the platform. they were less depressed and less politically polarized without it. liz: next on "the evening edit" we'll take you to the massive nationwide protests gearing up against nicolas maduro. we are live on the ground there. plus back in the u.s., michael

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liz: sources telling fox business that thousands of separate demonstrations with millions of people are expected to pour into the streets of caracas tomorrow to protest socialist nicolas maduro. this has fox business learns that nicolas maduro may be moving to strip nicholas guaido and the opposition of any immunity to arrest and imprison them. let's get to fox news steve harrigan. he's in caracas for us. reporter: vice president pence left no doubt about the u.s.

position in florida. they were fired up to hear his message. that the u.s. would never become a partner in negotiations with disputed president nicolas maduro. here is the vice president. >> to be clear, the struggle in venezuela is between dictatorship and democracy. and freedom has the momentum. nicolas maduro is a dictator with no legitimate claims to power. and nicolas maduro must go. >> the first challenges to venezuela's military could come within a couple of weeks. he intend to bring in a convoy of humanitarian aid with food and life-saving medicine. it will be a real test to soldiers on the border whether they listen to the man giving them orders now or the interim president recognized by the u.s.

and seven other countries. liz: . michael boom berg says a wealth tax is called venezuela. the greater democratic platform is shaping up to look as follows. 90% tax rate, government healthcare, open borders, guaranteed college and jobs and income, all guaranteed by the government. did i leave anything out? >> they want to shut down energy production and tax gasoline and energy heavily, too. liz: i want your reaction to even "the washington post" editorial board reading basically the riot act to all the people for single payer and medicare for all. what medicare for all could not do, what kamala harris and other

cannot honestly claim, it will not end healthcare rationing. the democrats should not make that argument by exaggerating the benefits or low balling the cost of single payer. what's you're reaction to that? "the washington post" is taking them on saying you are dead on. >> they are not taking them on. take them on would have been having this conversation before the 2018 elect. this is a warning to ask them please don't lose the 2020 elect. the democrats are on track to make trump look extremely good. liz: i'm asking you to respond to the "washington post" comments. you are talking -- the way you are phrasing it, you are low balling the cost of medicare for all. take on that. >> it's true. this is maybe $30 trial,

depending on how they plan to do it, plus they will pay for everybody's education and give jobs to everybody whether they work or not. this is lunacy. and the "washington post" is a clear leader for the modern democratic party. it's warning them, they are about to throw away the 2020 election. brookings says hire taxes only create bigger government. the government is 5 1/2 times bigger it was four decades ago. and it consumes about 40% of gdp. >> government has gotten bigger and has not solved the problems it said it would solve. they went up by more than $3,000. more and more government is not the solution to the problem.

we were told that we were at peak oil and you can't have more oil. more free markets and allowing people to look for oil and natural gas brought an energy renaissance to the united states. the brookings institute said if trump was elected the stock market would fall 10% to 15%. it's up 30%. the left's analysis of what creates growth, if you looked around the world you could have learned from venezuela, argentina, the soviet union. low taxes, property rights. ' freedom of contract. liberty give you growth. when you move in the other direction you have fewer jobs. we just got 3% wage increase the last year. that we were told couldn't possibly happen. >> i wonder if all those people

who said the markets were going to collapse if they personally sold their own stocks. if they said cortez and elizabeth warren, your high tax rates on the democrat left. if you had that you may not have had a silicon valley. what do you make of that argument? >> we wouldn't have. we no longer have a 90% or 70%. john f. kennedy said it was hurting the economy and we had strong growth in the 60s. when we got rid of the 70% rate under reagan we had strong growth in the 80s. but not just america, the rest of the world moved away from high rates. remember the beatles song, tax man. a 95% rate. 9 for the government, one for you. that's why the beatles live in

america. everybody who can play tennis in sweden left sweden and live in monaco. the high rates killed innovation, and you don't have in europe some of the growth we have. unicorns, some of the billion dollar companies that get started from scratch. liz: walmart among the other developing stories we are developing. walmart making massive changes to employment policies. now grants paid sick leave to hourly workers in the u.s. and tying bonuses to attendance. deutsche bank delivered a fourth quarter loss. the "wall street journal" reporting the german government may move to merge or move to get deutsche bank to merge with commerzbank. three san francisco bay area

walgreens stores could lose their pharmacy licenses. they allegedly let an unlicensed worker act as a pharmacist. he was dispensing 650,000 prescriptions from 400 walgreens pharmacies. it was a rough month for hollywood. sunday's super bowl is likely to put a damper on the box office. the only film opening this weekend nationwide is sony's. president trump says he'll use the state of the union to talk about his border wall. "the washington post" blasting bernie sanders. saying bernie, you are dead wrong about what's happening in venezuela. we have the former number two

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liz: president trump sowning the alarm over the three caravans on the move, as well as human smugglers, he talked about that today. fox news william lajeunesse is with us. >> they're using the situations here in mexico to score political points. democrats saying the huge haul of fentanyl, they say that means that any new border security money should go to stopping drugs. president trump using the rise in violence in mexico to justify the wall. the murder rate here in tee what that, second only to caracas prompted the president on thursday to call on the military

and police to reduce the violence. as for the feud between the president and the speaker pelosi. out of the 2,000-mile border, only 350 miles is capable of stopping people. the other 300 miles stops cars. the president wants 250 miles of new fence to extend the pedestrian fence. also it's going into all four border states, the most in texas. now as to the type of barrier, the border patrol favor what is you see here, this fence. and by definition it is a fence because you can see through it. the other reason they like it is it takes 45 minutes to cut through this. each one of these is filled with concrete. thirdly, the california-mexico border is 140 miles long starting at the ocean all the way to the arizona border. well, out of that every inch is covered with a fence, a lot of it this style except for 26 miles where the laguna mountains intervene and you

can't put the fence. so the president is saying ironically what nancy pelosi opposes she has in her state. that's why the president says he needs more wall, to stop, in his words, human smuggling. >> it's very hard to do human trafficking through ports of entry because you have people stand thrg looking. and they say hey, what's going on in the back seat. what's going on in the trunk. they check these things. so they come in through areas where you don't have the barri barriers. >> as for the new caravan that continues to move north, some are going to come here no california. also we're told some are going to texas. the u.s. said today it wants to expand this program that keeps central american asylum seekers in mexico. they want to expand it beyond the port of san ysidro. ironically, those we talked to yesterday said they don't have a problem with staying in mexico.

however lawyers say it's inhumane and they prefer that they -- they will file some sort of lawsuit to challenge the policy. >> the migration protection protocols are not about protecting anyone. they're actually a plan to return people seeking asylum to mexico in violation of u.s. asylum laws passed by our congress. >> so the u.s. is trying to expand that program, not just in san ysidro but other parts along the border as well as those who cross between the ports of entry. mexico has not said yes, yet so there's a little point of contention there. but u.s. is trying to stop catch and release by making the asylum seekers say here rather than be released in the u.s. liz: thank you for your reporting there, sir. next, a fast-moving developments in venezuela, big protests, millions expected to pour into the streets in kr

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exert all diplomatic and economic pressure to bring about a peaceful transition to democracy. but those looking on should know this. all options are on the table. liz: that's vice president mike pence talking about all options on the table. the deal with the crisis in venezuela. sources telling fox business thousands of separate

demonstration wills be held tomorrow in caracas. millions of people are expected to pour into the streets in a broad-sweeping show of anti-maduro protests. this as fox business is learning there's growing concerns that maduro may be potentially moving to strip guaido of parliament immunity in order to arrest them and imprison them next week. what would happen if maduro did that? >> i think if he was to make a mo to arrest jan guaido and his supporters with, this would cause an outrage larger than you see right now. right now people are barely surviving this defuncts government. they're looking for hope and there's humanitarian aid on the

bordered that maduro is not letting in. this would set off the powder keg that is almost there ticking as we speak. liz: you know when the teams try to go and approach juan guaido, he's got a 20-month-old baby. we're hearing supports that maduro's s.w.a.t. teams are imprisoning and killing teenagers in a dragnet through the impoverished poor neighborhoods that were once loyal to chavez. where is the outrage in the united states. marcos never shot on his own people. neither did gos gorbachev. where is the outrage from the left? >> they're so worried about the wall and increasing taxes that they're forgetting the fund mentales that we're not being moral toward the people, the

neighbors down south of us. liz: dick durbin stood up and so did the wagg post saying bernie sanders, you're totally wrong. this isn't about intervention. set the stage for us. weren't the south american countries years ago starting to say the problems in venezuela are out of control. this is colombia, brazil, argentina, chil chile, panama, e united states and canada stood up saying you're out of control, maduro, you're crushing your company. trump is way after the fact of that, right? >> well, as you mentioned, all 14 countries that are a part of the lima group have stepped forward and they're supportive of guaido np is one of the richest countries in the world. however they've got 112% of --

112,000% of inflation and 800,000 just in the last year. there's in reason for that except for what he's been doing. he's been funneling all of this wealth to himself and his loyalists. now with the sanctions finally taking place, those people who are loyal are starting to go away and we're seeing there's a chance for hope. but we need to do something and act now. diplomatic economic sanctions will work with time. however we don't have that time now. liz: you made the critical point. that is the trump administration stood up and shut down the socialist corrupt dictatorship that is killing its own -- you didn't see gorbachev do that, never saw marcos shoot at their own people. trump and his administration shut down the cash cow where maduro stole money out of citico and funneled it to properties and to, you know, swiss bank

accounts in turks and kay koas. when he shut that down that means maduro is backed in a corner now, right? >> he's been bank-rolled ever since he took office by russia and china. he's missing his loan payments. they have a lot of leverage on him and that's why you see those countries supporting him. when you can't pay your people and the military leaders on the take for so long, now with the sanctions he can't make the payments. ultimately what is going to happen is going to be up to the military. liz: that's why he's trying to sell tons of gold right now. don, thank you for your former service to the country. great to have you on. >> thanks, liz. liz: next, prominent demeanors like we told you, they're schooling bernie sanders saying knock it off, you're full out

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liz: the wagg post editorial says quote, bernie sanders is dead wrong about what's happening in venezuela. tonight prominent democrats like dick durbin revoking the far left socialist for being wrong as well. let's bring in john cofield. it was stationed in caracas. he joins us now. great to see you, john. >> hi, how are you doing, elizabeth. liz: what did you make of the "washington post" head line? >> i think the post called it right. liz: you know what they're saying, bernie sanders is saying that the u.s. is being interventionist here. is bernie sanders correct? >> i mean what i understand by intervention is military intervention. the u.s. has used its diplomacy and also used economic sanctions

against the government of venezuela. but we have not intervened militarily. liz: here's the point too that way before the trump white house stepped in the oas, the organization of american states, countries like brazil, colombia, origin tina, peru, panama, chile, now europe, those countries were saying hey, venezuela, you're a problem, maduro, you're a problem. stop. that was way before the trump white house intervened. >> yeah it's way before. it's remarkable to see such a coalition of latin american governments calling out a fellow latin american country. it's unusual and very significant that they've come forward and condemned the maduro government. liz: this is a regional response. bernie sanders is trying to hang it on the u.s. when the neighboring countries are seeing

refugees pouring out of ven venezuela eafn they'r and they'g it's a problem, saying maduro, you stole the election, you rigged it. this predates donald trump. >> yes. well, the particular movement by latin american governments to condemn venezuela is since president trump has been elected. but it is very unusual that they've done this. and of course they're being impacted. there are millions of venezuelans fleeing the country going to colombia, peru, brazil, panama, and the economy of venezuela has been destroyed. and the neighboring countries are saying this is enough. liz: where is the lack of outrage on the democratic left mere in the united states given the fact that we're hearing, people on the ground, maduro's government, s.w.a.t. teams are shooting teenagers and imprisoning teenagers? >> it's very important to remember one thing right now. the maduro government has a

monopoly on force. there's no opposition guerrillas and malitia. in the past they have been willing to suppress violently nonviolent demonstrators. this is a difficult time for venezuela and we'll have to see what happens in the coming days as more protesters go into the streets. liz: what are you watching for? are you watching for the military showing up at the protests? we're hearing they're standing down. are you watching whether maduro gets an exit ramp into cuba? >> what i would be watching is whether the military decides that maduro is more of a problem than a benefit. they are more likely to look to someone else within the regime to be a new figure head rather than to simply turn over the reins of government to the opposition, at least in the short term. liz: you feel like it's finally heating up, right, john? >> it is definitely heating up. it has heated up before and

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fidelity. open an account today. liz: anti-trump filmmaker michael moore calling for a boycott of starbucks. >> nobody should go to starbucks until he announces he's not running. moore said billionaires are immoral. and he says schultz is not a self-made man. >> what are your thoughts on the fact that billionaire has become a bad word in the face of democrats? >> it blows me away. it's glowft democrats. it's other people. maybe it's because they weren't able to achieve the american dream. they think you have to do

something illegal to do that. maybe they stole from somebody. a lot of things on television don't show the good billionaires. liz: tens of thousands of jobs have been created by billionaires who started out dirt poor and started big companies. they include oprah winfrey, howard schultz, john paul dejorua, and ken langone. >> billionaires have always been a little bit under attack. it's easy to attack the rich ever since the french revolution. r schultz is one of those people who came from the projects in new york. he was born poor. he got an idea. he was working for a company.

he ended up work for starbucks and acquiring starbucks and building it into a place america had never seen. for michael moore to attack him based on what he's accomplished is just foolish. liz: a recent pew research poll shows a majority of democrats want the party to become more moderate. we have elizabeth warren and ocasio-cortez talking about high tax rates. but we wouldn't have a silicon valley if they had their way. >> the democratic party's shift to the left is intense. the shift on abortion, business and taxation, they exorcised the moderates. the moderates are being pushed out of both parties. liz: howard schultz is talking like al gore and bill clinton.

what the democrat left is not talking about is the open fire hydrant of spending where you are going to have to raise taxes on the lower and middle classes to pay for it. because that debt, the spending is outstripping the interest on the debt is outstripping the military budget. iewn fortunately knight -- unfortunately neither party seems to care about the spending. i think one of the reasons howard schultz is going to draw the ire of both sides of the political spectrum, he could be a spoiler for a democrat who do could defeat trump. liz: walter mondale lost in a landmark loss when he ran on taxes. >> mondale is something the democrats don't want to do again. liz: thank you for having us in your home and thank you for

watching. lou dobbs is next. have a great weekend. lou: good evening. the need for our leaders to take on the worsening national security crisis at our southern border is more urgent with every passing day. now both democrats and republicans are ignoring that urgent need. the house and the senate are out of session. our representatives and senators out of tune. and members of the border security conference headed home as well. apparently to rest up from their single meeting held wednesday which was apparently so exhausting even though they worked only slightly more than an hour and a half. that's right.