of information and video on our website, foxnews.com/propertyman. i'll see you next week. [ woman vocalizing ] melissa: absolutely. "bulls and bears" starts right now. ♪ david: hi, everybody, this is "bulls and bears." thanks for joining us. i'm david asman. joining me on the panel, we have heather, jonah and adam la shin sci. worries that a record long government shutdown would slow things down, the economy is firing on all cylinders. 3400 jobs added in january, way beyond the estimates, six straight months of a better than 3% wage growth. very important for the working class. earning season kicking off strong and stocks posting their best january in 30 years.

but remember earlier this week when former ceo, starbucks ceo howard schultz said the follow about trump's economy. >> would you give the president a credit for having a 3.9% unemployment rate? >> no, i would not give him credit for that and i do not give him credit for saying for two years that the stock market is approximately for the economy. he is going to fall on his sword for that because that economy is not going to last. david: so how do you explain all of this robust economic news? >> look. i'm a big believer whoever is running the joint gets the credit. and with this president, he lowered taxes. and for me the lower of regulations, the fact that obamr regulation after regulation. i think it was a head wind. now we got tailwinds and we're seeing the numbers. i'm a big believer in statistics and numbers.

it's sitting in front of everybody to see. >> you can't run for president and say that the economy is good and -- it's a good way to be vice president in the reelection. you know, i think the president deserves some of the -- i never think the president deserves all of it. the american economy functions on its own in spite of bad presidents. but that said, we got a spending surplus ap and this economy is the one now slowing right now. you got to give -- trump is going to take the blame long term if the budget deficit keeps growing. but right now you got to say some of the stock market action is because of this. we're running deficits. >> let's look at the stock market for a moment. i would say that the greatest january ever president trump's grand accomplishment is no accomplishment at all. that's sort of like says he

broke a whole bunch of dishes in the cupboard and we should pat him on the back for cleaning it up. that's all that happened here is the damage that he did with the trade tensionens an tensions anr things. >> when you look at the jobs report, which is backwards looking despite the trade tariffs and the fed, you know, increasing interest rates last year, they're now on hold. lee sure and hospitality were their two biggest job gainers within the monthly jobs report and that tells me people are out spending at the restaurants, at the bars this weekend for the super bowl, at the casino. so you're not going to spend if you think we're entering a recession. i would beg to differ. >> let me say, i don't like what's happened with the tariffs. i don't like what's going on with federal spending and the debt and deficits. but you got to give the due where it's at.

therthere's some may chur strucl changes that the president put in. the regulatory environment has completely changed. i speak to a lot of ce os and they're talking about the same thing, less to worry about and comply with and we can go about our business. david: hold on a second. >> i got to mention another thing. you have problems in china, problems in japan. we are so much stronger than everybody else. david: but beyond that it is the wage growth. out of all people, adam, you would be impressed that when we had the stagnant wage growth throughout much of the obama years -- i know that people like to say trump is picking up on what obama did. that's not so. the wage growth that we've seen, six months of wage growth over 3%. the working class in this country was deprived of that kind of increase in their disposable income under the obama administration.

they're getting it down. why do you think that is? >> i'm certainly not going to say anything about wage growth. it's good all over. why do you think it is that people like gary didn't give the obama administration for seven straight years of economic expansion. >> don't be putting words in my mouth. i give every president the credit he gets when he's the president at the time. i have no issues with obama and whatever numbers he had. >> i will say that one of the reasons the wage growth took off is because the unemployment nienlly got down to a level where employers have no choice but to raids wages. it wasn't obama's fault. at that point you can get other -- there's other people that want your job. when you run out of people for the job, that's when the wage grows goes up and that's when you can get inflation. we don't have that long because it can lead to problems. i don't think it will right now. i don't think the fed needs to raise the rates.

but it's a result of low unemployment numbers. that is what caused the wages to take off. >> six million job openings doesn't hurt. that caused the wage wages to tk up. it's at the highest levels since 2013. that means people are coming off of the sidelines feeling confident enough about this economy, regardless of who is leading us, president obama was and now it's president trump, and they're feeling confident and they want one of the over six million jobs available. that's a positive sign. david: can we talk about the worrywarts who thought that the government shutdown -- mark was on with kneel cavuto earlier on fox business. he was one of the people that said it's going to take a big hit from the economic -- the government doesn't add anything to the gdp. the government takes away from the private sector and gdp and this month proved it.

>> i had no idea. there was a shutdown? i don't remember that. the big thing going forward is, this is memo to the president, if you don't get something done on china and you raise tariffs come march bad, it's going to affect the economy. if you don't do anything about the debt and deficit. i don't know what date. maybe it's 25 trillion, 30 trillion, one day it's going to go boom. they better start going after entitlements and things that need to get taken care of. >> the bottom line is, i want to say it's not that the government is so important, we put government in the middle of places where it would cause a slowdown. the bottom line, we took over the tsa, flights were getting mess dz up. that was going to weigh on gdp not because the government was important. but at this stage if you shut down the government for too long and you can't fly planes it will weigh on the economy. >> i agree. it was a three-week shutdown,

very painful for the people who went through it and was beginning to be painful for other parts of the economy. and that's the moment that the president called it off. let's hope that we don't shut it down again. it's this issue, david, of will it affect the economy isn't settled yet because of this one report. david: i think we had a good test of it. look, at the very least the people who said that the shutdown was going to cause a slowdown in the january numbers were wrong. i mean we just proved it today. >> but if it was prolonged, i guess to adam's point, if it shuts down again february 15th, at some point in time it will have an impact on the gdp. but to have a stellar 3400 jobs created despite the longest ever government shutdown ask quite a fete. david: 2020 government hopefuls are pushing hard against billionaires but could

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howard schultz is proud from having worked his way up from scratch to being a billionaire calling it the american dream. a lot of democrats are calling it something else, elizabeth warren calling billionaires free loaders. a self-made billionaire tellings maria bartiromo that she's blown away on the attacks on the american dream. >> what are your thoughts on the fact that billionaire has become a bad word in the face of democrats. >> it blous it blows me away. maybe it's because they weren't able to achieve the american dream. over a billion is past the american dream. they think they have to do something illegal to get that. they don't know. a lot of things on television

don't show the good billionaires. david: should people be criticized for being successful? >> they absolutely should not. that's what this country was founded on. that's the reason we're successful. the word billionaires is not a four-letter word. we should all aspire to have that kind of wealth and that kind of mind-set that goes along with it. if you look at starbucks ceo, he should embrace being a self-made billionaire and he is. he's employed and does employ thousands of people. they have great health care and he gives 30 millian dollars to our veterans to help them get back into the workforce. that is a positive. i aspire to become one. >> i hope you do. we're changing the subject here. americans do admire billionaires. they admire them greatly and they should. people like bill gates who created something out of nothing. and many like them. elizabeth warren is talking about a certain billionaire who

it has been well-documented that he and his family were tax cheats and took advantage of every sort of government program that they could to build their wealth and she's making a political attack. let's be clear, it's one billionaire she's picking on, not billionaires. >> she's talking about everybody. just this week there's a proposed 90% tax, a 70% tax, a 77% e estate tax, a carbon tax, a wealth confiscation that's not a tax, already tax dollars for a living person. how about calling for getting rid of all of the private insurance and private health care. >> that's all rich people she's going after were not just billionaires. >> if they went to all of the rich people and took every dime they had, it wouldn't pay for the things they're asking for. you think they're only going after billionaires? that's just their rhetoric right now. they have to go after everybody. if they taxed everybody from dime one up to the billionaires,

it could not cover everything they want to do. and the amazing part of it is these people have never run a lemonade stand. they've been living off of the taxpayer their whole life. >> this country other than any country have liked the wealthy and the successful. and i don't know if that's fully changed now with the way the party is going in this direction. but some of if billionaires that backed democrats started this. tom stayier was backing a billionaire. mike bloomberg, that camp is not for a wealth tax. you don't want to punish the successful in america. it's one thing to believe that the billionaires shouldn't be taxed at a lower rate than somebody with a few ten million dollars but that's separate from hating them. that's what leads to revolution. >> venezuela. >> and i think we're on the edge of that. that's the dangers.

it's going a little too far. let's make the tax thing fair. >> i don't think we're on the edge of that. but where there's a consensus is that the american people are upset about income an e yawlt. we could devote the next five hours to discuss what that means but most of you would agree that that concern exists. one simplistic way of articulating that is to say billionaires are bad. i don't agree with it. david: income and equality increased during the obama administration when taxes increase. so all of their solutions for approaching income in equality doesn't seem to work. we should also mention, by the way, liz warren is one of the 1-percenters herself. she's a millionaire. there's a question of how many millions she has. finally free loaders, the one thing most americans do agree with is that the politicians inside the beltway are free

loaders. by far the majority of americans believe that. >> i totally reject that. i mean they're no more free loaders in principle than the 7 or 800,000 government workers who were laid off or furloughed during the shutdown. these people have a job to do. david: why do they have an approval rating that's below. >> i'm sorry. >> this is all. >> let me finish and i'm stop talking. just because we don't like what they say or don't like their programs or what have you doesn't mean that they aren't doing a job and being paid for it. david: okay. they do a job, they're paid for it quite handily and they raise their own -- i wish i could raise my salary. but they take from the private sector. that's what government dues, they take from the productive seconsector and redistribute. that's why i call them free loaders. >> in 2019 all of government is going to spend $7.56 trillion and they're saying that's not

enough. we need more money to do our bidding. and the problem is every time we give them a dollar, you think a dollar is passed off to the homeless? no. maybe 25-cents gets down to the people. the bigger problem we have, when i opened the "the new york times" this morning and there's "attack of the fanatical centrists." he goes after schultz because god forbid he wants balanced budgets. >> you're acting like it's all "the new york times" readers. the billionaire that we just saw, not just democrats, these tax ideas poll well to 70% of the country. >> i don't buy that. >> unfortunately it's true and that's where the danger is. income equality is the -- that's why the billionaires in the country are basically self-made people. these are people that started

companies mostly in america. >> on late-night last night saying we should outlaw billionaires. >> he's an entertainer. >> what, you don't open the next store, put out the next product? this is mainstream. this is no longer fringe. they used to be afraid to talk like this and now they're out there in droves. it used to be they called themselves liberal and then progressive and now they're talking socialism. >socialism.this matters, my fri. >> they're going to get off of it. >> i don't see them getting off of it. david: the next question is the new millionaire's tax. the tax would be great because it would mean more money in the economy. since when does more money to the government mean more money in the economy? >> only person like aoc, alexandria ocasio-cortez would say something like that.

>> it's worth knowing that the president was for a wealth tax in 199. he thought there was a problem with income inequality. there is an issue an here and there's a way to address it that doesn't ruin the golden goose, which is america. and that's the dangerous zone it's going into where it's anger and the hostility. you don't get angry at the golden goose. you want to give them a lot of food so they don't flay to another country. that's the problem. and why that guy started facebook, moved to singapore. you don't want that to happen. the geese can fly. david: by the way, eight out of the 12 european countries that tried too wealth tax has gotten rid of it because it had the opposite effect, the government was getting less money. thank you. lively discussion. appreciate it. what president trump says could happen next month before the

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david: president trump announcing today he is considering meeting with chinese president xi later this month when he travels to meet with north korea leader kim jong-un. this is what he said earlier. >> mr. president are you thinking of adding on a meeting with xi jinping on the back end? >> i'm thinking about it. there's a possibility that we'll meet somewhere, whether it's there. i'm over at a certain location there, as you'll know. that will be announced next week. it could happen. david: with a great jobs number in his pocket is the president in a better position to pressure the chinese on trade? what do you think? >> we've been in a strong position economically compared to china for a while. they're taking the brunt of the hit. but the president did just

elevate this recently to a high risk high reward thing. that's how he operates, he he did his campaign. there's downsides and upsides. he's not looking for a weak easy deal because this action where they were basically arresting people -- some of them are questioning -- i don't know if you saul the whole robot thing with t-mobile bought a robot from japan to test phones and some people from china worked there and stole the -- it's debatable. the point is, everyone is cracking down on it and he's making the chinese mad. that's going to work to his advantage and get a better deal or it's going to backfire and have 25% tariffs in a few weeks. i think we're going to have 25% tariffs before this gets better. >> look. here's the thing. >> true story. >> i watch markets every day, the economy and things like that and every day seems to be eight different things coming out of the white house, 10:00 it's

good, 12:00 o'clock it's bad. they better get something done now. they've been talking a lot more positive. i worry about the ebbed of the day it's going to be something small and i worry about china. there's been rules and regulations on them for a long time and they have never followed the rules and regulations and all of the sudden they're going to change? i doubt it. we have elections, they don't. they're a communist joint and they believe in certain things. we'll see what happens. >> the markets have to see changes, you're right, garry, especially by the march 1st deadline. and i think we have. today the second chinese national that worked for apple in their self driverless car union was arrested by the fbi. you couple that with the arrest of huawei cfo, all four spying, stealing our trade secrets, the intellectual property. the world, not just the u.s. but canada and europe, allies are

cracking down on china harder than ever before. that will have an impact. >> i don't agree. i think that the market is totally gullible, right? so the market will -- when the president says we've got a deal, the market will say yay, we've got a deal because that's what the market cares about in the next five minutes. i agree with what gary said. i think the president will get a small deal. he'll make it seem like as big a deal as possible. >> the greatest deal ever. >> he's basically chicken here. we wants to be able to say he got a deal. the chinese want to say they got a deal too and they're not going to honor it. if you listen carefully to what the president said, i think he will ask for an extension. he's going to say as they get close to march, we're doing well with these talks, let's grant an extension.

david: i think at that time he had been told that the jobs numbers were going to be spectacularly good. and the better the u.s. economy is, the worse the chinese economy is, the better his playing hand for the negotiations, right? >> that's a classic example of the fact that the americans have the short-term hand. our economy is strong. he had access to jobs numbers. in other words one day later. the chinese have the long-term hand because they're willing to play long term. and that will not give up on this. >> china's economy is heading further south than the new york knicks season right now. number two, they do have massive debt. and number three is the political side. people are not happy there. there have been a lot of jobs lost. they announced 390 companies lost money that made money last year. that ends up mattering. you got to think that maybe that pushes them. but so far all i know is it's getting a lot of chatter. >> whether we have true structure or reforms or not, i

don't think the markets are that gullible. the fact is if we eliminate tariffs in the trade war, that will make the markets go up rarlds of a big victory or we narrow the deficit from china and may buy more goods from us. >> he's playing hardball now. and the only risk is 15 or 20 years ago it would have been easier to push china around. china is so big now. it's kind of like california now. they can say what the emissions rules are going to be like. kentucky and tp can't do that. they're not big enough. but california is. they can decree policy and that's what china does. you know, 15 years ago a company back there woul then would haven yahoo!, we don't need your access. but you we have no choice. here's the i.t. >> i agree completely. here's an example of what the

chinese will do. sure, your financial services can operate in china, we agree. they'll sign it and smile and then it's not going to be easy for the financial services companies. david: thank you, gang. cory booker is now throwing husband hat into the ring to run for president. and like other democrats he's calling for more taxes on the rich. but larry kudlow from the president's office says that line is getting old. line is getting old. we'll debate it coming next. i switched to liberty mutual because they let me customize my insurance, and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything. like my bike and my calves. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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david: senator cory booker announcing that he is going to be joining the growing field of democrat nominees for 2020. democrats all seem to have one thing in common saying they can pay for their new spending plans by adding for taxes on the rid. but the bhows' larr white housey kudlow says the rich are already paying their share. >> they pay 37% of all of the

income taxes. okay? and the top 1% basically pays more than the lowest 90%. so who is carrying the freight here. the most successful are not only paying their fair share, they're paying the most. david: so, gang, two views. who is right? >> top 1% do pay their fair share i think, david. and i don't have to number of what we all should be taxed but how about start at a flat tax rate. that would be a great idea. otherwise at some point in time, especially i would imagine over 70% tax on the wealthy or the rich would drive capital innovation and business ideas out of the country and then you don't have anybody else left to tax. >> well let's be clear here if we're having an economicking conversation or a political conversation. if we're having a political conversation, we all know intuitivety what the voters think. we've talked about that already.

decent politic to say that we should tax the rich more. as for are the rich paying their fair share, david, we need to be philosophers to answer that question. larry kudlow's numbers are undoubtedly right. they're paying what they pay. is it the right amount? is it a fair amount? we get to argue about that. >> first of all cory booker is going to make someone a nice vice president. if he was hillary's vice president i think the election might have turned out. he's moderate. friends with the tech guys. he's not l no a billionaire guy. if you got to go with somebody, she's the guy to go with. look, those facts that we just heard out of the previous guest is basically proof that the middle class is yurpd taxed. the european mod sl a high flat tax, higher taxes, people starting at 50,000 dollars, 60,000 dollars. that's where it's undertaxed. if you want the programs to fix

cities, to have better trains, that is paid for not by squeezing the top 1% more. they dropped the wealth tax in europe. they did not drop the value added tax. you need a broad tax base to offer benefit to everybody. >> you're not running for office, jonah. >> you can't run for office on that platform. >> since we're talking taxes again, let me start by saying sovereignty noserenity now. we're not hearing higher taxes. we're hearing the 70s and the 80s and the 90s. i have on my desk in my office 1975 where we had 26 tax rates, the highest rate 70% and it started at 200,000 and the first 200,000 was at 55. guess what happened to the economy. >> as you know. >> hold on, let me finish. when it came down. if we want to go to all of these

european countries that they love so well and go to the 50s and 60s, it stifles innovation and there's a reason why we have the strongest developed economy around the globe. by far right now. it's because of less. it's les taxes, less money out of the economy's pocket. >> i'm not saying i subscribe to this because it's too late on a friday afternoon for me to get my head around this. but as you know, aoc is not advocating the 70s, she'sed a advocating the fixed 50s and 60s. when innovation was raging as well as economic growth. the oil shock had something to do with what you're talking about in the '70s. david: what ams happened at that time was the real rate that the rich people paid was far less that the real rate when it was 90%, a top rate of 90%, let me finish, the real rate paid by the top 1. pete: was 30%. 1%. there were so many deductions.

>> that's why you a flat tax. >> this goes back -- david: the problem with a flat tax, heather as much as i love the idea, the problem is that so many americans pay no taxes right now that it would men an increase by the bottom 40%. >> converted one person. >> this goes back to how big government is. federally they're going to spend 4.4 trillion this year. in the year 2000 it was 1.8. it's going to head into the 5s and the 6s. i don't care what anybody does the economy is not going to be able to stand bigger and bigger and bloated government. >> america is so big and other countries as a percentage of gdp, they spend more money. there's negatives for that. cory booker took money from a billionaire who made money because this is the best country to make a business in. he sees the business there.

he's more of a hillary clinton type about that. >> david, i'm listening to this conversation and i think again like garry, for example, i think you and i would agree, why are we talking about cutting spend, but we aren't. >> please. >> and by the way, president trump isn't. >> i agree. >> he's behaving like on old school democrat. i ask you, david, your ex"wall street journal" editorial page buddies, what do we say about this? david: i can tell you one thing, you were asking how much americans would think is a fair amount to pay in taxes. every time -- we have asked that time and time again, whether it's a fox opinion poll or "wall street journal" poll, 25% is what the majority say is fair. that's federal, state and local comcombined. most americans think that should be the top rate. >> from your mouth to god's ears but that's not happening.

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of a first of a kind driver minimum wage law new york city. this is uber is considering an additional challenge of $2.75 a trip or 75-cents per car pool ride as a congestion surcharge which is going to go directly to the mta, not the drivers. uber left all of the alternatives are looking a lot less than the bargain they used top. is this more evidence of raising the minimum wages, bad news for customers and businesses. >> david, i looked into this one. i wrote my book called "wildswid ride" about uber last year. uber came out of the gates so fast against these cities that they were caught flat-footed and they were basically subsidizing the rides for a long time. that's why it was so cheap, to take an uber ride and later lyft and others. the cities and the taxi commissions have come back hard

saying this isn't fair to taxis. so we're seeing some equilibrium happening. >> they're underpricing the service which you think would be illegal to put out competitors like poor taxi owners. i don't like the minimum wage as a way to solve this problem. new york city isn't like everywhere else. it certainly doesn't apply to a federal minimum wage. there's a congestion problem that mayor bloomberg tried to deal with. you can't have gridlock. david: amazon is coming. >> when you do minimum wage, that's not the way to do it. it's going to lead to an acceleration of robot calls to make more gridlock. you have to have a tax on it. that is the only way to move people through -- this isn't communist russia when you wait in line for something. you need the price to be higher. >> adam's "inside apple" book is

one of the best books i've read. >> very kind of you. >> the minimum wage, it's another mandate of what a business has do when they may not be able to do it. what ends up happening, people who may get a job at 10 or $11 will not get one at $15. and in the restaurant industry you're seeing massive technology come in. and if a franchisee can't afford it, less people. something has got to be addressed. everybody is talking $15 now. >> this is an awful idea. nay ear paying 267 # 26.87 an hour per uber driver. maybe i'll seek employment as an uber driver in new york city. if you want to address congestion, shut the bridges down, shut the roads down. that will clear it up for you. >> ar what? >> they're not going to do that. >> first of all, i'm probably the only person in the program who has been an uber driver.

i drove as part of my research for the book. it's hard work. i don't wish that on anyone. and it's hard to make the $26 an hour. that's a shocking number. i think congestion pricing is the only way to go and only governments can do it obviously. david: clearly there are cities all over -- new york is not just an isolated example here. but in yierp europe, in paris, barcelona, whether every wherever you go in a major city there's a taxi commission -- i appreciate you feeling sorry for the taxi medallions people. most of the taxi m medallions in new york city are owned by mail millionaires, millionaires with a grip on city hall. >> are we talking about trump's old lawyer? >> probably, yes. david: probably, yeah.

>> well at the end of the day that's why you let customers and consumers decide. they're the ones ultimately footing the bill here. if prices have come down in terms of the cost to transport us from one place to another, i'm all in favor of that type of innovation. if you have a problem. >> heather, just, i don't know if the free market is going to fix the traffic. the problem is too much innovation. the price of a uber is mostly labor. they're going to go to robot cars at some point in my life hopefully, it's going to drive the price down to whatever the car costs and that's going to lead to five times as many cars on the road and the city has to be a plan for that. david: although i got to say, gary and i are the naysayers on robo cars. i wouldn't get in one. getting a ticket to the super bowl might cost an arm and a leg, but once you're there it's not going to cost you a lot to get a hot dog. to get a hot dog. we'll explain coming next.

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>> if you want to experience the super bowl in person, it will cost you a small fortune. cheryl casone is in atlanta with more. reporter: the parties under way as we get ready for super bowl lii, the pats versus the rams.

the average price, $2,300 for a super bowl ticket. there is also a lot of warnings from the nfl and the host office saying there are scammers. one man was taken for $10,000. but it's possible to see the game sometimes the prices come down at the last minute. plenty of hotel space in atlanta and minneapolis. the hotels have been full but fairly reasonable. however, if you are trying to come last minute for the game you could spend $3,000 to $5,000 a night for a room if it's a last-minute situation. kirstjen nielsen was talking about the fact they want to make sure this is a safe and secure game. you will have f-16s in the air.

it may be an expensive game for you if you are here in atlanta. but it will be a fun game and safe game. we'll see if it's the pats or the rams. david: is the super bowl experience worth it or is it bete to stay at home with family and friends. >> my first super bowl was super bowl 5. but it's gotten insane. i read somebody paid two tickets on the 50 yard line $50,000. the amount of who tells is ridiculous. >> . the amount of hotels is ridiculous. >> to me, there are so many rich people in this country that if you have got anies of dollars. since tax rates are so low. it's no big deal.

>> you can't let it go, can you. >> they are giving $2 hot dogs to the commoners. to me paying this amount of money is insane. i worry about the prices with the same teams keep playing. and the gambling rules, if that goes away, i can see other problems. fried waffles, jumbo chicken wings, short ribs. it's like an all you can eat buffet. even if you hate brady who is 41 years old, a feat all men should aspire to. >> roger goodell knows there is still a strong demand for the game and all the surrounding things that go on with the game,

the parties, the media, this is a spectacle that lasts all week and it's bringing in tons of money. also, atlanta makes out big time. david: when you add it up at the end of the day, is it worth it? >> my nfl days are over once i hit 39. it's amazing. >> what if they lower your taxes, gary, then will you go to the game? >> sure. >> take the patriots. i have been liking them since the beginning of the playoffs. >> i'm going to ask you first, who do you think will win his game? >> if i were betting which i'm not, i would go with the patriots. >> before the show i didn't

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