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but at least she has a plan. the republicans need more than bumper sticker slogans about their opponents. and protect the environment because everybody is for that. president trump: bernie sanders is running. personally i think he missed his time. >> our campaign is about transforming our country and creating a government based on the principles of economic, social, racial and environmental justice. president trump: we'll see how he does. a lot of people are running and only one person is going to win. i hope you know who that person is. liz: it is socialism versus capitalism. bernie sanders announces his presidential run as a number of presidential contenders reject
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his agenda. we'll show you how they are hiding the realities of how they want to change the constitution and change america. we'll also show you the facts about bernie sanders you may not have heard about before. this as a new poll says a growing number of voters now reject the government debt. a top general from venezuela is in exile. he gave us this morning for america. he said he has seen documentation as proof isis and other terrorists are in fact in venezuela and latin america. he has seem military documents. he believes they are trying to come into the u.s.via migrant flows and false documentation. this general warns against socialism in the u.s.
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he says thousands have died under maduro's socialist regime. the crisis in venezuela may come to a breaking point. i'm elizabeth macdonald. thank you for joining us. "the evening edit" starts right now. [♪] liz: welcome to the show. you are watching the fox business network. bernie sanders announcing his run. he said he'll have his own version of a green new deal to overhaul the u.s. economy. watchdogs note that sanders and ocasio-cortez still refuse to disclose the higher taxes needed to pay for all of that, including on the middle class. analysts note cortez' 70% tax on
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the upper brackets would only pay for a week's worth of spending. reporter: sanders had a failed run for president against hillary clinton in 2016. but this time he says it's different. >> we are going to win. we are going to also launch way think is an unprecedented run in american history. a grassroots movement to lay the ground work for transforming the political and economic life of this country. reporter: the political climate shifted in his favor. he's considered the frontrunner in his field. his progressive policies that he campaigned on in 2016, far-left proposals like medicare for all. $15 minimum wage. free college tuition for all.
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he's running for the very first time, he has a massive data base of grassroots supporters. he raised $4 million in just after announcing he was running. liz: gallup find an historic and growing number of americans reject big government. potential democrat candidate kamala harris says i'm not a democrat socialist. amy klobuchar rejecting free college tuition. bernie sanders' home state of vermont rejected his single payer plan because it would bankrupt vermont. california, washington state all rejected single payer for the same reason. let's bring in grover norquist.
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what's your take? >> you have people throwing around the word socialist. but people who say they like socialism. more of them believe that would lead to smaller government. so they are not quite clear on the concept. when people say global warming means we have to have more government, only 18% think we should have more government control, and 52% say no. you can say you are interested in something, not the same thing as saying you are willing to pay, $10 trillion, $12 trillion to pay for it. >> let's take a look at facts about bernie sanders. he refused to file on time senate financial disclosure forms and he didn't file presidential disclosure forms.
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he gave 4% of his income to chiert. d to charity. he still relies on a pension from burlington, vermont where he was the former mayor. he owned three homes and is a trustee on the island family trust. >> a limousine liberal. you have enough money and you can imagine spending other people's money, too. it's not a serious effort. his healthcare plan he admits costs $32 trillion. he wants 8% across the board tax plan. it's an 8% pay cut for everybody to pay for a health plan that only pays for a third of it. you can imagine the endless number of tax increases and regulations they are looking to put on.
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i don't think this is a successful campaign approach. the democrats got elected in 1992 saying they wouldn't be left wing. but in 2008 they said they were only going tax a few people, and by 2010 they lost the house and most of of the senate. they are running this cam paint same snowing saying we are going straight for your jugular. i think they could lose the house and lose the opportunity to do better in the flat and the presidency because -- in the senate and the presidency because they showed their cards too soon. liz: it just makes the government bigger. bernie sanders won 12 million votes. ocasio-cortez won 16,000 votes to get her house seat. but they want to change the constitution. they want to change america as
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you just heard, radically. this as we are hearing from harry reid saying don't do that. barney frank saying don't be so radical. that's a quote. democrat socialists are pushing for bigger government, but a percentage of americans told gal up big government and poor leadership is up to 32%. >> usually when this nonsense picks up you have like during the nixon years you have a recession. during the obama years you had weakest rekroife red recovery in history. when you look at how people feel about their future, why would they want to change the rules and turn everything upside down? liz: people are saying obama inherited a recession.
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but this will come up. obama inherited a recession, and basically he neede needed to dox the economy. your take there? >> except he didn't fix the economy. his was the weakest recovery from reagan's to bush's. liz: an doubled the debt. he spent all that money and didn't get much of a recovery. there is a reason reagan came in with a lousy economy and double digit inflation. got elected in 49 states. liz: this is the walter mondale party. thank you so much for your time. good to see you, grover. stocks rising add president trump signals flexibility point march trade deadline. president trump: i think the talks are going very well with
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national emergency to protect their resident, natural resource and economic interests from president trump's disregard for fundamental separation of powers principles. president trump: we'll be successful with the lawsuit. it was filed in the 9th circuit. and i actually think we night do very well even in the 9th circuit. it's an open and closed case. i was put here for security. reporter: all of the states that signed on have democratic governors except for maryland. >> the idea that he is trying to say that we have people trying to invade our country to permit mass crime is a crisis of his own making. reporter: president trump says walls w.
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he said we need this wall to stop the illegal flow of drugs. and illegal immigrants coming across the border who could potentially cause crime in the united states. liz: president trump blasting the 16 states now suing. he said as i predicted. 16 states have filed a lawsuit in the 9th circuit, california. they wasted billions of dollars on their fast train with no hope of completion seems to be in charge. >> the president does state the obvious. the 9th circuit is the wright place to go to -- is the right place to go to get a restraining order. to do well on appeal with a three-judge panel that will probably left lean.
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if you file there you can expect to get into the supreme court. and the decision will probably be the president has a right to do that. as a former legislator we gave him that right. liz: 1976 national emergencies law does allow him to do that, to spend money on this, already appropriated funds. the 1993 supreme court decision basically said yes he can do it. the gao said yes he can do it. a 19523 law says yes he -- a 1952 law says yes he can do it. but lots of criticism that the president is trying to circumvent congress. president george h.w. bush spent money after the iraqi invasion of kuwait. and george w. bush used a national emergency declaration
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after 9/11 to spend money. in both instances spending government money was implicit in that. >> congress authorized money to be spent. congress could have taken each and every dollar and except them from this act. congress didn't do it. they left the money to be spent on clearly a good cause. it clearly supports national defense. it clearly will save one or more lives. it clearly will reduce i'm. all of these -- reduce crime. there is no question in any border patrol agent's mind or these members of congress and other candidates, there is no question but that each mile of fence will make the border safer. the border patrol agents safer, and reduce the flow of drugs and human trafficking into our
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country. the question of how much it will cost and cost effectiveness is a fair question to have, but the question of whether it saves lives is undeniable. liz: it's about 60 miles shy of the goal the president said for the border barriers. there is criticism that illegal crossing are down versus the year 2000. but 806,000 illegals are expected to try to cross this fiscal year. your take on that argument? >> the world is a place with a lot of poor people who want to come here. most of of the numbers are poor people who want to come here. they are economic refugees. the reason the president has a mandate to put up this wall is more than just poor people look for a job. it many the flow of opiates, and the flow of other contraband
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killing americans. more people die from opium-related death than died from car accidents or died in our wars. the president is trying to save lives directly and indirectly. he has a mandate to do it. and congress could have sent a law through that would have presented it. they chose not to. they chose to give him an amount insufficient to meet the obligations he believes national security requires. >> the argument has been that the drugs are caught at the ports of entry. yes we know drugs are caught at the ports of entry. drugs continue to flow across the southern border between the ports of entry. >> it's always the weakest link. he has an obligation to do so. liz: the oscars are this
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googles own policies. tensions continue to escalate over china's tech giant huawei. this as germany considered letting huawei help build its 5g infrastructure. the daughter of the huawei founder now out on bail in canada as she faces u.s. fraud charges. we bring you tonight a fox business exclusive. we'll be speak to an exile venezuela general on the possible threat the u.s. faces from venezuela and more. he has the details coming up. bernie sanders, is he telling you the truth about his policies?
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liz: welcome back. you are watching the fox business network. we are coming into the bottom of the hour. more twists and turns in the case of jussie smollett who may have faked his own hate crime. reporter: chicago police are still waiting for smollett to submit to their request for a follow-up interview. for all those who backed away, cardi b still wants to give him the benefit of a doubt. >> people in chicago are racist
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so they may be trying to frame him and make him look like he's a liar. if not [bleep] do that. reporter: the fbi got involved to investigate a threatening letter sent to smollett. letters cut out from a magazine that spelled out you will die black homophobic slur. the letter was covered in a white powder which tested to be tylenol. a magazine with hers cut out is part of the evidence seized when they searched the chicago apartment of the oh su oh -- the osundairo brothers. also taken from the apartment, bleach allegedly splashed on the actor. and a red hat. police have not said how long
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they will wait for smollett to show up. >> if he doesn't want to come in and talk to the police and give his side of the story for the second time, they are going to arrest him. reporter: police confirms the oh sutheoh, the osundairo brotherse the courthouse today. liz: alexandria ocasio-cortez won just 16,000 votes to get her seat in the house and bernie sanders won 13 million in 2016. both want to raise taxes to levels not seen since the aftermath of the war. joining me now, the head of the
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independent women's forum. >> it's not surprising. bernie sanders is take -- -- is take advantage of the allure of universal basic income and free college for all. they sounds great and poll well. but when people understand the costs attached to it, it doesn't hold well. liz: watch dogged and critics say the data they use is tax returns. they do not include the trillions dolled out in medicare and medicaid and 401k plan. if you factor that in, there is no income inequality. 60% in u.s. household get more in the way of benefits than what they pay in income taxes.
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>> it's very much intentional. the idea of pitting the wealthy against the middle class and the poor. you are supposed to look at the wealthy with envy. what's interesting, gallup talked to americans and found out 17% think that socialism is about equality. or 25% think socialism is about equality. rather than those who think it's where the government controls all resources, and controls private industry. there is a huge miseducation in this country among americans about what socialism really does. it's about insuring everybody is miserable. liz: the best part of income equality is getting a job. people in the bottom actually moved up in the brackets.
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critics say in bernie sanders's world we would not move higher. >> think about it. in a world of social yimple thero din a world of socialism s no incentive to take the risk out there. iphones we take pictures on would not exist in a socialist environment. that's where we are at. liz: patrice, thank you for coming back on. a venezuelan citizen escaped socialism there. he's slamming alexandria ocasio-cortez's green new deal. he's joining the venezuelan general we talked to. he's warning the u.s., do not let socialism in this country. that fox business exclusive with the retired venezuelan military general. we'll have more on that next.
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president trump: the people of venezuela are standing for freedom and democracy, and the united states of america is standing right by their side. maduro is not a venezuelan patriot. he's a cuban puppet. that's what he is. in this nightmare of poverty, hunger and death. let your people go, set your country free. liz: that was president trump speaking in miami yesterday saying socialist dictatorship in venezuela are over. your phase are numbered. all options are open. including limit options. he said the u.s. wants freedom
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for cuba and nicaragua. bernie sanders is announcing his run for the presidency. the president saying the u.s. will never allow the ignorance and division of socialism in america. you will hear from and venezuelan military general living in exile in the united states. he fled venezuela in 2014 after an arrest warrant was issued because he was participating in demonstrations against the socialist maduro regime. joining me is an tone ohio rivero, thank you for joining us. how do venezuelans feel about president trump and his handling of the socialist collapse in venezuela? [through the interpreter] the situation [inaudible] unfortunately it's under that venezuelan [inaudible] the way
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which he hand power also because of the threat of some bodies or organizations that act criminally from the point of view of drug trafficking. islamic state and corruption and money laundering that stems from this criminal activity. liz: general one said terrorist and isis and other extremists are in venezuela. can you explain? >> [through the interpreter] the government of the deceased president chavez was acting with qaddafi and ahmadinejad in iran and the international terrorists. and we have seem documentation
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that has been spread throughout venezuela there and throughout the world. liz: president trump is putting maximum measure on the venezuelan military. what will it take to get maduro's military supporters to leave maduro and go with interim president guaido? >> [through the interpreter] the military authorities take on responsibility to recognize guaido as the commander of the armed forces. and recognize the usurpation of president maduro. liz: there could be potentially bloody clash saturday on the border crossing with colombia where humanitarian food aid
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sits. 6,000 volunteers have been signed up by interim president guaido to get that aid across the border. but until where has his military personnel. this soldiers and military hardware at the borders positioned there to stop them. so ways going to be done to help the -- what is going to be done to help the human corridor of people trying to do the right thing? >> [through the interpreter] i believe the capability or the possibility of them to allow the volunteers which is well designed to allow for the entry of humanitarian aid. there will not a response. and there can be [inaudible] by the maduro. that is to say, with everything
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that's been done, i don't believe that an entry of humanitarian aid will be aloud from that point of -- will be allowed from that point of view. liz: thank you for your time. >> [through the interpreter] thank you as well to the people of the united states for your support. liz: venezuela just shut its maritime border to top aid from coming in from the duched island off the shores. democrats running in 2020 are divide on whether to support single payer healthcare. a big push to block emergency and food aid from a dutch island to venezuela. we go to a venezuelan who escaped socialism there.
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[♪] liz: welcome back. we are staying on this breaking
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news. venezuela's socialist dictatorship just shut down its maritime border bang all air and trips by sea or the ocean to and from three dutch caribbean islands. this as maduro's push to blockade and food hundreds of thousands need in venezuela. juan guaido, the interim president is saying people are starving to death and we need that food. democrats pushing socialism for americans. but venezuelan danielle demartino says do not do it. don't let socialism into this country. watch what he says when he was told that everything was a constitutional wright. >> i hear exactly what i heard back in venezuela from the same socialist regime that told us
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everything was a right. housing was a right. jobs were a right. but in reality when everything is a right according to the government, nothing really is. people are suffering in venezuela because policies such as the one alexandria ocasio-cortez with her green new deal which is a red new deal, a socialist wish list. liz: john, your reaction? >> i think he's correct. he's a sharp 18-year-old boy now going to college in the u.s. he talked about how socialism destroyed his family which was once properrous and reduced them to abject poverty. but he linked the socialist policy to the green new deal that most of of the democratic presidential contenders have signed on to. the real purpose of the
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so-called green new deal is not energy, the real purpose is to give power over every aspect of our economy and every aspect of our lives to the federal government. it is, as he said, the red new deal. liz: if it's not working in venezuela, why do the democrats propose it here? >> you got me, liz. it's like the car tune see of the guy with the giant fork and sock. he says that turned out badly for everybody else who tried it. and the guy with the fork said they weren't doing it right. it's faith that somehow, some day socialism will work. it's basically historical ignorant. liz: to pay for it they would have to raise taxes on the lower brackets and middle income. >> they are talking about confiscating the wealth of the
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rich. is there not enough rich people. that doesn't pay the bills. even in europe where they haven't done anything like the socialist green new deal, they understand that if you want to pay for spawnsive government services you have got to tax the middle class. that's where the money is. and that's what would happen here if anyone tried to implement these crazy schemes. trish regan will be speaking exclusively with juan guaido of venezuela. at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. we have a whole lot of show still coming up. democrats running in 2020 still divide on whether to run on single payer. we have a growing number of state quietly on the low q.t., they are expanding government-run healthcare. we'll talk about that and explain it next. i think it will fit.
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♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome back. a split now growing, democrats running in 2020, they're now divided on whether to run on single-payer. sherrod brown, amy klobuchar now on the fence about it. remember, democrats are promising a lot to get out the base for the primaries, but about three dozen states are now quietly expanding government with-run health care on their own by expanding medicaid. let's bring in republican strategist ford o'connell. great to see you, ford. your thoughts here. >> well, obviously, there's been a democratic push for quite some time, get the states hooked on medicaid for all, and it's a back door path to medicare for all. yes, the real full-blown push for socialism over the last ten years because of the aca has been occurring at the state level, the democrats know this, and, therefore,9 if the states push enough for it, they get themselves in such a dire fiscal
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situation, guess what? they're going to be screaming to washington, you know what? we can't figure out our own balance sheet. elizabeth: you know, there is a need to care for the poor. what is your take on that, ford? >> well, basically, this push for medicaid for all sort of bastardizes the original mission of medicaid. medicaid was meant for infants of the poor, for pregnant women, for the disabled. it was not meant for working class people just because all of a sudden the democrats want to expand it so they can push full-blown socialism. elizabeth: is health care a right? >> no, health care is not a right. what we should be pushing for is to bring the costs down and make it affordable for everyone. the not a right, contrary to what the democrats say. elizabeth breath what is your take on bernie sanders winning just 12 million votes in 2016, alexandria ocasio-cortez is trying to upend the u.s. via a change in the constitution. what's your take on that? >> look, a lot of the democrats are trying to come up with big
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ideas and, essentially, they're trying to make themselves sound better than they really are, and it's gaining a lot of attraction -- traction, really because it's an indictment of the educational system of america. nobody really understands how our government works. only 40% of americans can pass a citizenship test and, frankly, when it comes to people under 45, only 27% can. they are taking advantage of people's feelings rather than walking through what is best for america going forward. elizabeth: you're talking about tax rates at a level of 70%, 90%, that the u.s. has only experienced during times of war to pay for it, ford. >> i understand what they're pushing, they're pushing ideas that sound good which is, basically, if we don't have a solution to something, we're going to tax the rich. essentially, the top 20% of the economy pays 87% of the federal taxes which makes the current u.s. tax code one of the most progressive in the entire industrialized world. elizabeth: and sand knave ya says, wait a second, we don't have a minimum wage, we don't
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have estateaxes the socialist economies that bernie sanders cites say we're not socialists, we're capitalists. we have a big welfare state that's paid for via capitalism. your talk, ford. >> 46% of americans basically don't pay federal taxes, so what the democrats are trying to do is promise every right underneath the sun including free puppies because they're hoping someone will be is so hacked off with their current lot under u.s. capitalism, that they'll buy into the nonsense that they'll -- elizabeth: you know, president obama was against single-payer at one time. a lot of democrats opposed what they're now for. what's your take? >> the aca was basicallyexpandel well the states would force it upon them. elizabeth: ford o'connell, thank you so much. thank you so much for having us in your homes. thank you for watching. lou dobbs is next right here on
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the fox business network. have a good night. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. andrew mccabe's confession tour has entered its third day and so, too, has his book tour. mccabe today claimed he informed the top congressional leaders of both parties about fbi plans to carry out what was and is nothing less than the attempted overthrow of the u.s. government. in may of 2017, president trump had been in office less than six months when the conspiracy to carry out a so-called soft coup reached the democratic and republican leadership of both the house and the

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