of changes coming. potentially very soon. you can say the saw that here first on "trish regan primetime". we will see you tonight at 11. >> guess he was running for president? bernie sanders is running for president! and now promising to be an ideological battle, the likes of which the nation has not seen since the cold war. is capitalism versus socialism, things that work versus things that fail. and it all begins now. bernie made his announcement this morning on vermont public radio. just like you did before the last election. as a member the election were hillary clinton screwed him out of the democratic nomination by hoarding all of the superdelegates. what a witch! things are very different today and he claimed he has thrown his hat into the for two reasons.

first, because he thinks president trump is a terrible person. >> the current occupant of the white house is an embarrassment to the country. i think he is a pathological liar every day. he is telling one lie or another. and it gives me no pleasure to say that. but i also think he is a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, a xenophobe, someone who is gaining cheap political points by trying to pick on minorities. >> bernie, tells how you really feel! since he's whispering. maybe he didn't want to wake up anyone else at the home. and to completely change this country as you know it. >> will be different this time? >> we're going to win. we're going to also launch what i think is unprecedented in

modern american history. that is a grassroots movement, john peered to lay the groundwork for transforming economic and political life of this country. that's was different. >> john, free medicare for all. he wants 15 dollars an hour minimum wage. but bernie is ill and pushing the socialist agenda. in the very crowded, elizabeth warren has a plan of her own. >> we can pay for universal childcare. and a whole lot more if we just ask the 1/10 of one percent to pay a fair share. >> a fair share. will take a tomahawk to the patriarchy. some democratic hopefuls are trying to distance themselves from the leftward push of the party. amy klobuchar says she does not support universal healthcare for all. or free college for all, kamala harris says she is no democratic socialist! but with burning in the race will the candidates be forced to follow his lead?

and will the lace ultimately be about capitalism versus socialism. with the snow from the national taxpayers union senior fellow, trump's coming up in a little bit but let's start off with nice man panel. he serves as the editor at large and cost of the fifth column podcast, matt welch is here.we have the award-winning, host of the part of the problem podcast and jonas, welcome, gentlemen. there is so much to crack into. first off, bernie. obviously 20/20 will be vastly different landscape then 2016. as bernie get og points for being the original socialist who really shook up the party? >> i think yes on one hand and no on the other. no is at last time around he was just basically one of two

people running.i like jim webb is much as the next guy. >> please do not dismiss him. >> it was unclear but --? symmetric loving democrat. >> bernie was last one standing. those that did not like coronations and the unlovable robot to be handed this on a silver platter when she would recap the opposition had to go somewhere so they went to this guy who happened to have a big bunch of democratic socialism. i'm not totally convinced. search your feelings. the people that you know that like bernie sanders, how many are socialist?not all of them! really. >> they are pretty far left. they share my contempt for hillary clinton and there we find common ground. chris many also responded to his authenticity. i don't necessarily agree with him but i know that he means it and i would rather have that. >> that is where want to pick up with dave. because that authenticity if you look at the rest of the field is pretty much missing. kamala harris is a big flood, elizabeth warren fraud.

>> this is part of the feeling about aoc. no matter how you feel is really her. and bernie sanders right now is the favorite for the nomination. >> is he resentful of her? >> i don't think so. it must validates him in a way. there are more people coming to my wing. bernie, the interesting dynamic is that bernie sanders, elizabeth warren is out. she is pretending to be an indian, she's not the race. bernie sanders owns a progressive area. but no one has a hillary clinton. on the hillary clinton that was like i will take it easy on you, count on the dnc cheating and try to get the young people. they're actually going to have to take on his policies. and be like this is not

practical. i don't know if their base will go for that. >> they can't do that because most of them except for -- let's talk about moderation because of howard schultz says aggressive is and will not trump, trump. you have have a moderate democrat because the other stuff falls apart and you will not be able to beathim . you need a moderate in order to do this. what do you think about that? >> it could be true but he will not be the moderate to spoil anything. his launch of his campaign already was a bomb. people are very, bernie sanders everyone hates millionaires and billionaires. he is a billionaire. i do not know if a billionaire can run again as a non-republican. i think those days have passed. bernie was like in business you want to be first in market. that is like apple, they were not the first iphone. i'm in the first smart phone but they came out and they got this tight and that's what aoc is done. and if she cannot run because she's too young but bernie, she started it.

you can argue socialism because it's further but until that time they did not talk this far left. >> no way! if you were dubbed a card-carrying member of the aclu, you will run off the presidential debate stage. >> he probably had a better chance against trump than hillary. but he wanted to go against hillary. trump knew she was beautiful. >> is bernie beatable?>> he is because he's 100. but he is a little scared of aoc. you want someone up-and-coming. >> she is waiting to counter. >> he's a socialist, he can rock all day long. chris kamala harris says i lock people out for decades and they are still rotting in prison. >> mx a little surprised by that. hillary clinton ran against sanders by saying that his numbers just don't add up. the exception of amy klobuchar,

they say will be a competition to see who to make the biggest promise. >> who can do the most with their wizardly. thank you, we will talk more in the show. now let's go back to socialism and the fact that we cannot afford it. on cbs, bernie laid out his laundry list as president. >> in 2016 many of the ideas that i talked about, medicare for all, raising the minimum wage, to $15 an hour. making public colleges and universities tuition free. all of those ideas, it was bernie, they're so radical, the extreme. american people will not accept the ideas. you know it's happening? all of those ideas and many more are now part of the

political mainstream. >> your saying that the party came your way. >> i do not want to say that, i think most people would say that. >> how humble! it's amazing! the ideas will never take root because once people learn about the bill and the cost of these programs, it is totally potentially tens of trillions of dollars over the next decade. with me not to explain, how we can possibly afford this. it is maddie -- i do not understand how you begin to propose paying for this stuff. what has to happen to the corporate tax rate, to the sales tax and expenditures in other areas? >> listen, the only reason bernie sanders is going full throttle on ideas is because he has realized they no longer had to explain how to pay for them. that's one of the things that aoc has done.

she's made it seem fantastical that you would even try to make this math add up. because it doesn't work. >> if you had asked how much something works. >> they say this will cost over $32 trillion over the next 10 years. some of the proposals like elizabeth warren tax, the 70 percent marginal tax rate by aoc, number those things even come close to raising that type of money. a little time to hear from bernie and other politicians about how well other countries do this why can't we do this? why can't the united states? what they are not telling you the other countries levy huge tax burdens on their middle class to pay for them. they do so in the form of consumption tax or national sales tax.which would be completely unpalatable in the united states. democrats want you to believe only the rich can pay for this where is the master of the rest of the country as the ones that will foot the bill. >> there is no other way.

and democrats are banking on the fact that low income earners will be delighted by the future dependency and the promises they get to the middle class will ensure that the middle class will continue voting democrat. it will not happen if there squeezed to the point of immobility. >> that's exactly right. >> and also, they offset the cost of some of their insurance with nationalized healthcare with cost sharing. which a lot of people don't talk about. and they also don't have the same kind of military expenditures. not to mention the redundant programs that we have in this country. >> not to mention that we are a country of over 300 million people. a lot of other countries are monolithic in needs and population. completely different story in the united states which is a benefit and a feature of the country. not a flaw. but it means public housing has to be different. they have done great work on this at the manhattan institute. if you could hundred percent of business profitable corporations, small businesses if the government confiscated all of those, it still would

not be enough to pay for the spending being proposed under bernie sanders regime. >> if you double the corporate tax. >> if you take all the way up to 100 percent! >> my god! >> it is insane! it shows that that is all we have not seen any math yet in the democratic primary.you cannot make these numbers work and promise all these things and pay for it. >> one of the going to push each other? when do they start pushing each other?>> those debates will be great! we should get together and get popcorn ready because having all of those people on one stage of trying to promise the same thing without having explanation of how to pay for it, it only takes one candidate like amy klobuchar to say we cannot make his unreasonable demands on the united states, americans are smarter than this, we can explain to them in a reasonable manner what public policy looks like without pretending we don't have to pay for it.are the ones that will hold it. >> but that's another thing,

they pretend like it won't. that somehow because congress has been in the habit of kicking the can down the road with things like continuing resolutions, that they will be able to do the same thing when the bill comes for the debt service. >> i think that's true but you look at democrats in the past, they've always talked to begin on taxes. they been a lot more reticent to actually vote to increase taxes. both high income earners and middle income earners. member the bush tax cuts we argued about? president obama, the most progressive in history send 85 percent of those into law permanently. his guys a minute when they say. it's a really convenient political campaign.when push comes to the shove they don't want to take it because they realize it will not work in the united states. >> everyone has it all wrong. cut taxes, fine. you have to cut spending to those two things have to work in conjunction as miracle grow in order for the economy to blossom.thank you so much matie duppler. >> you got it! >> nicolas maduro, ravaged venezuela. now president trump is urging the military to switch to the

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maduro remains defiant tonight claiming there is no humanitarian crisis in venezuela. nothing to see here. and criticizing trump for being nazi like for demand he step down. moments ago juan guaido told trish regan his country welcomes american support. watch. >> i have a question about president trump. how is he helping you? >> president trump, help has been instrumental, it has been key for this international coalition. it is important when a tragedy

such as this in venezuela has occurred. i think democracy and freedom are fundamental causes.>> hallelujah. your sister president trump urge military leaders to back juan guaido. >> today i ask every member of the maduro regime, and this nightmare of poverty, hunger and death for your people. let your people, set your country free. now is the time for all of venezuelan patriots to act together as one united people. >> so for the military leaders are still sticking with their boss. vowing to blockade from entering their country. because of that president trump says military action may still be on the table. will we put boots on the ground in venezuela? here to help us answer that, radio host and direct combat veteran, brian --. >> the slick brown fox jumped

over the lazy dog. >> let me ask you this. seems like it would be a bad idea to have any sort of military incursion from the us. in venezuela. will john bolton get his wish and is that what we want? >> i think he is hitting hard spot in the pentagon. the pentagon says it's more than we can, more than bite then we can chew. and let us try a bunch of things that are not quite combat. right now, we have a full-court press and psychological operations. >> what does that mean? >> coming at fort bragg at a special operations command as well as marine intelligence, as well as the cia, what it means is part of the aid buildup on the periphery of venezuela is part of the psychological operation. your building a mountains of food that would immediately alleviate and it would be a that would alleviate nutrition problems, etc. within

venezuela. under the radar however, psi ops are doing things like calling every high-ranking general in the venezuelan army and air force, showing them that they do not have security medications, where texting them, calling them. with native spanish speakers in many cases venezuelan immigrants that came to the united states and are in the u.s. army, they are calling these guys in thevenezuelan accent and saying, there are two possible marches or maybe even april . one in jail when you are broke and another where you are a hero in venezuela. which one do you want to do? because there is no middle ground. we're getting these guys to doubt with there being told from above. today they did that very public display of loyalty of the maduro regime. the chief of staff, minister of defense, division commanders. every one of them is getting texted from fort bragg several times a day. the other thing is, their wives are being texted and called

from here in the united states. many of them have kids in college right here in la. at a certain you know, very large public university here in westwood. [laughter] when i say full-court press, they are being told keep your troops in the barracks. do not fire on your people or you'll be held accountable for their actions. we have done it before. we can find the way -- we can find you where you sleep. -- quickly see what nicolas maduro has done to defectors in the past. and after break off en masse or they will be thrown in prison were much worse. he is no problem doing that and he has got the aid of cuba, russia and china right now. and you know, juan guaido is saying that he is helping bring in u.s. aid. but what effect, even though he is declared himself the leader, what effect does he really have on the ground? >> in his military, which is

not his military is maduro 's military. recent history over the past three or four decades, we have seen from the streets of tehran, right to stereo for that conscript soldiers do not like to kill their own people. and right to bucharest. we have seen this. the conscripts of the first to hand the rifles over. >> is that what they are banking on? because it is the upper echelon, the generals and administrations who are maduro 's cronies. they've all been enriched. >> and the other thing, russians are pumping private contractors in there from several private companies, iranians are on the ground there. now the united states government to accused cubans of sneaking guys in there. and so, when you are bringing in, when you're outsourcing

your loyalty it is a sign that you do not have a lot of confidence in your own military. when you're forcing military to go on live t.v. like they did today and say, the personally, i delight in the overlord. >> there are hostages. >> i do not think he is confidence that he has a grip on his own military. what they been saying over and over, it takes one general, just one guy objectively said, i'm going to the capitol city and i'm going to shoot that sob in the head. >> i don't know that we encourage that. >> very vulnerable to what america can do. >> what she can do at her finest. anchors away! thank you very much. >> thank you. >> andrew mccabe plans on suing the department of justice for firing him last year. he was fired for lying! can we believe any of his new can we believe any of his new allegati ♪

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the fbi a year ago. and he was referred to the u.s. attorney in d.c. for criminal prosecution. for repeatedly lying under oath. he spends a bit part of the year trying to dismantle a presidency. first it was with a badge. now it is with a bitter plume and his words would be little bit more believable if there were not rapidly changing. half of the presidential biographies are looking to have favor with the commandant. the other half are shrill poems meant to take him down with their emotional candor. mccabe is still smarting from his public spanking and glaring conflict of interest. he is to rationalize all the ways he, like james comey struck and others before him abuse his power to keep it. the theme is all the same. shielding the world from authoritarian bullies willing to append every agency who stands in the way from his russian power coupling.

the problem is, fancher macabre and james comey and everyone else amazed convenient enemies to sell books, their embellishments do not match reality. the new best photos turn on them as rod rosenstein is about to do with the bus marks still smoking on his backside. he wants to wear wire and invoke the 25th amendment and ready to whip up cabinet what's in mccabe's words to figure out where we were and what we needed to do. emphasis on way. because a secret team of power shielding super dunces thought they knew better than the electric and can use their overstocked powers of surveillance to bring down a man they found icky. now someone has to answer for and from this. why were mccabe and rosenstein acting so furiously? and why the top two guys, justice and fbi boarding the law they had sworn to uphold in order to undo an election?

which cabinet members had spoken in favor of the surreptitious removal? and where in gods name does christopher wray stand on all of this? if this is the stuff that we know about, i hate to see what still is rotting under the fallen washington logs. -- they are all gone. yet the president remains. and if there is nothing overtly criminal within the mueller report, they should face prosecution and justice and that is the memo. andrew mccabe sensei leaders in congress are so-called gangs all in on envisaging the president. watch. >> it also came on text messages that they had disparaged the president. they had bashed him, demonstrated clear bias against the president. you oversaw the investigation. did you ever see that kind of thing among lisa paige and peter strzok? >> not once. not from lisa paige, not from peter strzok or anyone else.

>> bull! should we trust anything andrew mccabe says now? try me now, wall street journal columnist and former speechwriter for george w. bush, bill mcgurn. let's learn. here you have someone who acted very tepidly when the number two person at the department of justice, who was essentially acting as attorney general in these matters, comes to him and says, screw the law. let's get rid of the president using the secret powers almost no one knows that we have. >> right, there different accounts that rod rosenstein has denied this. and he knows. >> and andrew mccabe says not only did come to him once and say that but twice. >> i tend to believe andrew mccabe on that particular issue. also, how outrageous it is that the deputy attorney general continued to deny it. and very fourthly. but has not appeared under oath

to deny.it will be interesting if any of these go to court trial for lying and so forth.>> it is one thing to admit yeah, i said that. i said a lot of stuff. and i was just joking. i am humorous part of the time. but is another thing to have the intent to want to remove the president from office. and i guess my big question -- >> sounds like an insurance policy! >> it does! my problem with mccabe, is outlining all the things to remove the present. but he doesn't necessarily outline what the president did. >> he fired his boss! that's why he said he opened one investigation. >> is that legal? >> no. i think it should be illegal to open investigation. quasi-means firing james comey. >> it was fully within the presidents constitutional powers. there seems to be a feeling some parts of the fbi that they are superior to the president and so forth. even discussing the 25th amendment is just outrageous.

i think it makes one unfit for that kind of office. the proper way to remove a president is to impeach him. >> yes. >> not to let an fbi agent make that decision.>> and her that that it was not politically tenable to have to step back and say why is that? why wouldn't congress? if the president has done something so egregious and if there something in the mueller report that requires his removal, then andrew mccabe will be completely justified. but until then, here's a person who is fired for lying. not just by the oig but office within the fbi. >> and what was his concern based on? we know that they used the steele dossier. even when bruce ohr told him that steel hated trumpet and was not reliable. and they did not put in i mean the fisa abuse is incredible. they have a lot to answer for. >> is not just the way they were trying to remove the president but the means they used to get there in the first place. >> right.

mr. mccabe complains about donald trump picking on him in tweets. at least trump is out in the open. this guys using sneaky powers to try to go after him. then when they briefed, when mr. comey briefed donald trump early on, they do not quite on the food truth about the investigation. i think it is really scary. i'm old-fashioned. >> if the abuses of power continue and there is nothing that says they have been curtailed, i hope when a democrat president is targeted, you sharing the outrage then as well. >> yes. >> thank you so much, bill mcgurn. >> thank you. >> "the new york times" out with yet another exposc on the president. that the left is once again claiming we will bring him down. we've been down this road many times before but this report is making one new claim that is raising some eyebrows. according to the times, president trump called matthew whitaker and asked whether a trump ally and use attorney in the southern district of new york could be put in charge of the investigation into hush

payments to women during the 2016 campaign. the only problem, jeffrey berman head over to recused himself from the investigation. here is fox news senior judicial analyst, andrew napolitano on what it potentially means. watch. >> the focal be evidence of what? >> corrupt intent. that is an effort to use the levers of power of the government for a corrupt purpose. to deflect an investigation into himself or his allies. if you try to interfere with a criminal prosecution that may, not at your own door by putting your ally in there, it is clearly an attempt to obstruct justice. >> we have heard countless times over the past few years, this is an impeachable offense! this is a bombshell that will bring down the presidency. so far none of them have. is this more of the same? or something much worse. the panels back. matt welch, dave smith and jonas max ferris. is this the bombshell?

have the wheels fallen off the wagon? >> no. not even close. i don't know, is an allegation. to me there is nothing very surprising about a president who is being investigated acting in this manner. what is surprising is the stuff you're just talking about that you have the deputy fbi director i'm sorry acting fbi director and attorney general discussing invoking the 25th amendment with no evidence of criminal activity. >> i've talked to some people with folks on board. >> the biggest part of the whole story is that this is a week before the mueller investigation begins. the thought about wearing a wire, they thought about the 25th the moment and instead they went with the mueller investigation. the fact that this has come out and then the new york times article will say, and donald trump a surprisingly hostile toward the federal criminal investigators. of course he would be! i mean this is obvious. >> here is what i will say and i see you making a stinky face. and that is okay. let's back up a little bit

because the president isn't very hostile, they have had an ax to grind with him in the southern district of new york. this is a highly politicized part of the u.s. attorney's office and he wants a friend in the diamond industry. what do you think? >> these individual stories do not seem like much. i will give you that. but if you lay them all down over like 10 years, it starts to look a little dicey. but a level of dicey to me is more like the clean water think it is a $30 million investigation for years and ken starr was going bananas. at the end of the day he hangs around a lot of quicker people. those guys went down. and then they got him on some unrelated stupid thing. i hope this does not one depending with you know, somebody and somebody's girlfriend and saying something under oath because that is all stuff that they hate rightfully.

it was way out of line when the republicans are doing it. and they're so quick to adopt the message that the right was on. it wasn't that long ago the fbi had a hold on mlk being a communist. and the democrats were like, -- >> john lennon too! it looks like a 1960s fbi guy and i think until we really know the story, i don't want to know because we do not know the final stuff yet. >> there is word that trump did not place whitaker in nomination for attorney general. because he said, i cannot put him in charge of the southern district of new york. what does it say to you?>> is not a surprise if it's true. but it was interesting to note is that he did not get his way. part of the story here think is that the system is kind of working. people are recusing themselves. >> here is, you make a good point because he asks a lot of questions. which is probably something he's done in his private life. his public life is vastly different. and you know, the element of the constitution changes how he

interacts with people and ideas in a daily -- >> it's what he can get away with. >> and like should we bond china? people taken at face value. so he's like, i'm going to push the button! >> the subtext in the new york times story, there's a lot of overwriting at the beginning. when you put altogether, this is just not normal. the way the president is acting is just not normal. and they are right! >> if every other president did a little bit of what he does on a daily basis, it will be completely abnormal. >> but he was never supposed to be normal. and the question is, and is the open question i do not think we know the answer, is the apparatus in the state right now, do they react to someone by saying he is abnormal so we will get his on abnormal technicalities. or is it actually criminal? even if was criminal the 25th amendment is completely inappropriate. >> that is inappropriate.

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the trump administration launching a worldwide push to end the criminalization of homosexuality around the world. this despite the fact that the presidents critics repeatedly call him a homophobe. i'm looking at you bernie. gentlemen, consolation group ceo, and openly gay trump supporter, and former hillary supporter, bill white. welcome back. >> hi kennedy, how are you

doing way too. >> very well. so good to have you back. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk about with the president is doing. he gets a bad rap from the lgbtq community. you think that he deserves a little bit more credit than what he's gone. how will this help?>> i think that we need to give the president a break. if you think about what's going on the news right now, this president is launching a global initiative to combat the fact that in 73 countries, it is illegal to be gay. it is really insane in 2019 that we have to talk about this but in eight of those countries, they actually will put you to death for being gay. >> that is actually right. >> iran, saudi arabia, sudan, and a lot of other countries that are muslim face. i think we should applaud the present. this is a bipartisan, absolute supportive of lgbt right there on the road. he'd put our ambassador to germany, leading the effort,

who was openly gay. >> happens to be gay? is also very well qualified for the position as you pointed out. and some of these countries, that you know, stone homosexuals, put them to death. for who they love. these are also countries that have donated tens of millions of dollars to hillary clinton and the clinton foundation.of all of the things that she has done the past that i disagree with, i think that might be the most egregious. >> we have a president, this is the first time a president of the united states is taking on the 73 countries. it will not be donald trump tweeting about it. that will set this in motion. which he did today. it would be penalizing these countries with sanctions, getting the treasury department, the trade representatives, i mean rick is going to lay the law. it will not happen overnight but i think this is a great

effort where we can get behind the president and say thanks! he is not a homophobe. i've known the president for over 30 years. he is so happy when my husband and i brian got married, brian said to say hello by the way. the president congratulated us. you know, he is not homophobic. it's ridiculous. >> hopefully there will be some thrust into this medallion because it is ridiculous and unconscionable that we are hearing about people being hanged and executed. >> yes, there are enough buildings. in iran there were three runs the billing for being gay. it is really abominable. >> i will buy you a building for being gay. [laughter] >> thank you for being here. tell brian i send my regards -their béarnaise sauce here is the best in town. [ soft piano music playing ]

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