go under oath. lou: that's it for us tonight. we thank you for being with us. good to see you, see you tomorrow. good night from n n n n n n n n. [♪] trish: breaking right now. live from bogota, colombia. the united states of america and the free world putting the bring sure on nicolas maduro and his brutal socialist regime to leave. new sanctions being announced today. mike pence, the president, flying in to bogota, colombia to meet with the new president, the one the united states of america and pretty much everyone recognizes as the president of venezuela, juan guaido. hear what brazil plans and the

free world wants as they close in on nicolas maduro. aye my exclusive interview with vice president mik mike -- mike pence. the president is telling me all options are on the table. what could that mean from a military perspective. and the former assembly leader living in exile here in colombia. he has been traveling the world meeting with leaders, trying to get them to put pressure on maduro. he says this is the moment for latin america. this is moment that could change it all. the berlin wall falling here tonight. "trish regan primetime" starts now.

[♪] the vice president of the united states flying into bogota, colombia to meet with leaders of the lima group, including the president of colombia and the it rim president, the man the united states of america and most of of the free world recognizes as the president of venezuela, juan guaido. both juan guaido and vice president mike pence met with families, venezuelans today living in exile here in colombia. i was in the room and it got very emotional with some women sobbing. they are desperate they said to go home. they waited long enough and they are so hopeful for change. but it's challenging. and nicolas maduro has really not made things any easier. over the weekend we learned five people have died. hundreds have been injured in all kinds of skirmishes along

the border. specifically on the venezuela-colombia border. that's where we are seeing these violent outbreaks. as nicolas maduro prevents this'-needed food and medicine from getting to his people. he's refusing them that opportunity of humanitarian aid, not just from the united states, but from all over the world. it's being sent in, and he would rather see it set on fire than get to the people that need it the most of. the world is watching. the world cares, especially the united states of america. here is my exclusive interview with the vice president, mike pence. welcome, it's good to see you this time in bogota. a lot has been going on. >> thank you, trish. trish: i know the u.s. expressed

all its support for juan guaido. but maduro is still there, and he's not letting his people have access to things like food and medicine that we are sending and other countries are sending. so what do you do now? >> president trump asked me to be here on short notice to meet with nations that came together more than a year ago and came to be known as the lima group to isolate venezuela's dictatorship economically and diplomatically. in the wake of the brutality this weekend where literally the leader nicolas maduro was dmangs caracas at the same time his hen'member were burning food and medicine by the truck loads. we need to stand strong in our conviction that nicolas maduro is a usurper.

he has no legitimate claim to power, and nicolas maduro must go. trish: i hear you. but how do you get from there to him actually getting on a plane and leaving and making room for the interim president juan guaido and free elections? >> this is all a process. from the first days of this administration, president trump made it clear that the united states america was going to stand strong for freedom in venezuela. we sanctioned more than 50 individual in the maduro regime. we actually sanctioned venezuela's oil company, pdvsa. we called on nations across our hemisphere to sanction the d the principal sort of revenue for venezuela, and nicolas maduro's regime, the oil revenues of pdvsa. we are recognizing juan guaido

as the legitimate president of venezuela. despite the brutality of this weekend where five innocent civilians were murdered and truck loads of food and medicine were burned. the momentum is on the side of freedom and on the side of those precious families i just met with that soon freedom will be restored in venezuela and the millions who have fled oppression and deprivation will finally come home. trish: where is china on this and where is russia on this? >> we call object nations standing with the maduro regime to reconsider their position. to no longer be willing to endorse a regime that literally murders civilians and dispatches henchmen that are trained by

paramilitary personnel from cuba who literally opened fire on civilians. to say we urge nations around the world to stand with maduro to step back and look at what happened this weekend. to look at the rise of the freedom movement within venezuela all across this hemisphere and all across the world and join with us. trish: do you feel there is some dialogue that can be had? i think it's important. we haven't seen vladimir putin grandstanding and saying i'm with maduro. but nonetheless we haven't heard him say i'm with the i am s. on this. and historically he has always been maduro's supporter. how did that change? >> as i said today. there can be no bystanders in the cause of freedom in venezuela. today we called on mexico and

uraguay and the nations of the eastern caribbean to join other nations in this hemisphere, to come off the sidelines and recognize the time has come to end the suffering, the deprivation and oppression of the venezuelan people and stand with their duly elected assembly and constitutionally recognized interim president. as that continues to build, as we continue to see nations around the world joining us. we hope that nations that thus far have been willing to stand with the maduro regime will reconsider and step back when they think about the impact this is having on real lives and everyday venezuelans. what president trump made clear, a failed state knows no boundaries. it's absolutely imperative that we see freedom and democracy

restored in venezuela. it cannot be a florida platform or violence and exporting violence across central america and into the united states. it's our purpose to stand for freedom as we always have in america and we are standing for the interests of all the nations in this region. trish: when we'll ask me why should americans care so many about venezuela. i think from a humanitarian standpoint, it's clear when you see this and this country is next to us and we don't want that lawlessness criminal activity becoming a breeding ground for other things. >> we we see in the maduro regime, a dictatorship demonstrating its brutality. it's a puppet of the dictatorship in cuba. he maintains power through

violence and intimidation. the oppression, the starvation that is causing 3 million people to flee from venezuela, maybe 2 mill more before the end of the year. that's the largest mass migration in the history of our hemisphere. under president trump's leadership the united states is absolutely determined to stand strong with the duly elected national assembly, the legitimate president of venezuela, juan guaido and continue to stand firm with them until liberty and the rule of law are reestablished. trish: the world is closing in on him. why is he still there? let me ask you this. is there any talk of military action? any talk of us engaging with the colombians or the brazilians to force him out? >> well, president trump made it clear that while we hope for a

peaceful transition, we hope that diplomatic and economic pressure and the voice of nations around the world will result in a peaceful transition. all options are on the table. trish: did you discussion military options? >> we are not going to allow a regime that terrorizes and oppresses and brings up deprivation and poverty to its people to continue to prevail in this hemisphere. we are going to stand strong. we really do believe that the momentum is on the side of the freedom-loving people of venezuela. when you look at the family of nations coming together, almost every day, we do believe by continuing to put more economic pressure on the maduro regime and sending a very clear message which the president had me do so today, to members of the armed

forces, that the united states of america stand with president guaido and the government. we are prepared to extend amnesty and embrace any members of the armed forces of venezuela now almost 200 have defected, to come forward to embrace freedom and the rule of law in their nation. trish: they are afraid to, though. because they feel like if i do this, then i have got a good shot at being tracked down and having them hurt me and my family. what is it you can do, the u.s. and the world can do to say it's okay. i know you are expressing that message. but it's hard to get out to everyone there because of his stronghold. >> our message is very simple. to the people of venezuela. including members of the armed forces.

the united states of america stand with you if you will stand for freedom. it's time. it's time for members of the armed forces to look aside from the mask wearing terrorists that make their way through the streets and threaten violence. look aside from the brutality of the maduro regime. to think of their children, were families, their country and the future and step forward and become a part of a movement i believe with all of my heart will soon bring freedom to the people of venezuela. trish: you say this is a movement. there is so much energy right now. how long does that energy last in view of the sanctions because you have people that are starving and desperate for food, desperate enough to promise maduro they will vote for him if they will just get a box of food to feed their family.

in this interim period while you are waiting for him to make the right decision, what happens to the people suffering under the sanctions. >> the united states has shipped hundreds of tons of aid and i spoke today to president duque about moving more resources to the border of venezuela, positions food and medicine. we'll continue to press to see that aid make its way into the country. the united states of america, our allies across this region, in the lima group and allies in this cause around the world are not waiting. we'll continue to bring more pressure to bear. more economic and diplomatic pressure to bear on the maduro regime. i believe with all my heart the day will come when venezuela will once again be free. trish: let me ask you what's going to happen to the five americans being held and have

given no trial, no any, no court date by the maduro regime. what will happen to the five american hostages. >> we demand justice for any american incarcerated anywhere in the world, and president trump sent a clear message a week ago that the maduro regime should understand that any violence against americans in venezuela, any violence against president guaido or his family or any opposition leaders. any violence of people standing in the streets to peacefully protest for freedom will not be tolerated by the u.s. and our allies. trish: what does that mean, will not be tolerated. >> we'll continue to stand strong. i couldn't can more proud of the leadership president trump has brought to the world stage. from the outset of this

administration, president trump made it clear that the collapse of venezuela into dictatorship and oppression was unacceptable to this administration. and he marshaled the resources of the united states. he marshaled the economic resources of the united states. and we'll continue to do that until venezuela is free. trish: juan guaido was not allowed out of the country, maduro said you can't go. he's here anyway. he's here with you today. but he's going back. the people want to see him there and he need to lead that movement. how does he get back in and not wind up getting thrown in prison by maduro saying, you violated the rules? >> the leadership interim president juan guaido is

inspiring. his willingness to stand with the venezuelan people and stand with the convoy of aid and immediate sane and demand that it be brought into the nation was an act of personal courage. nt he'll demonstrate the same courage he has demonstrated throughout. as he stands firm, the united states of america will stand with him. trish: you heard the vice president saying we are 100% behind juan guaido and the venezuelan people. butted the venezuelan people are scared because there are groups like this. you heard the vice president mention these intimidation tactics. this is the kind of thing they learned from cuba. these collectivos that go around and terrorize neighborhoods. they are scaring the people of

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trish: welcome back. we are live in bogota, colombia, the site of the vice president's meeting with interim president of venezuela, juan guaido. they are strategizing how to move nicolas maduro and his entire regime aside. a lot of different thoughts about how to do that, and military options are still on the table.

the vice president reiterating all options are there. what does that mean? joining me right now, we have general robert scales. it's always good to see you. i know how closely you have been following this story. we keep hearing from the administration, and it was reiterated today by the. d by the vice president today. all options are on the table. >> two or three weeks ago we had this conversation and i told you the center of gravity of what happens in the future is the venezuelan military. remember we had that discussion. after the horrible incidents this weekend, it's for sure they still are the weak link in mat duro government. there is the meg army, the national guard and so-called collectos which are simply

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if these colectivos are so influential, how do the people fight back in that environment when you have that kind of terror reigning throughout the country. >> they are not big in numbers but they are thinking about presence because they are the on ones maduro trusts to even get near the colombian border. after this weekend you may have heard rumblings out of pentagon. the most of of the players in the region realize that maduro is not going to go until his military crumbles. right now his military, particularly the national guard and colectivos are the ones propping up maduro.

also remember maduro would have been months ago fit wasn't for the cubans. they hold a stranglehold on their intelligence networks and the higher ranks of the military and in some cases the cubans are holding the families of senior military officers who they don't trust. holding them hostage. trish: you are talking about holding people hostage and we are getting reports in to us that they have taken one of their journalists to went to interview nicolas maduro. nicolas maduro and his cronies did not like the questions. so they have held that reporter and as far as we know heels still being held at maduro's palace in caracas tonight because they didn't like the line of questioning. they have five americans threat

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venezuela and how to get nicolas maduro out. i also spoke with julio borges. he used to be the head of the national assembly until maduro threatened his life. he's living in bogota where he is trying to reshape the future of his nation from this country. he said this could be the tipping point and venezuela could change the all for the western hemisphere. good to have you, a lot going on. how are you thinking about the next move here. maduro is still there. >> we have to be very clear the same road means to increase

pressure using military as well. and probably we cannot see from here the internal damage it's producing, all the sanctions and all the pressure. i believe they are work. and we have to keep the same road increasing the pressure and diplomatic circle that we have built. also, the democratic force that we are building within venezuela and outside venezuela. trish: you heard vice president mike pence today. he said all options are on the table. i asked shim specifically about the use of military force to which he reiterated, all options are on the table. while they want to do this through sanctions and seat removal of nicolas maduro by the international community, they are not willing to say we are not going to touch this. what does that make you think about what the u.s. might do

next? >> i believe that road has been chosen by maduro. he has the opportunity to be a democratic way out. but within venezuela as a kidnapper of the venezuela people. i believe he has to be out of power. so any option has to be open, and we have to keep pushing right now and hoping it will produce an outcome. but otherwise we have to be open to any solution that means maduro out of power. if not, there wouldn't be any future for venezuela. i believe we have been in a real advantage and we made future steps, and i believe we are in the final meters of this race for venezuela.

trish: the people are encouraged and excited by that. but what happens if the pace slows down? what happens if in four weeks nicolas maduro is still there and you know this better than anyone. here you are living in colombia in exile because he's threatened you. he uses fear and intimidation and threats of prison and worse with the people. so how do they make that change when he's threatening to lock everyone up? >> we have been fighting for 20 years. it has been a long time. but we are the conviction that we are in the final chapter thank you to people like you. you have been very supportive to us. the whole free world is supporting venezuela. we really believe that we have to keep the pressure, to keep

our plan, the recent plan, and to increase all the internal movement that we are making, the movement of the people within venezuela and the internal movement, and i believe in the near future, we'll see the exchange and the consequence of the pressure and the new sanctions, and things will change quickly. we are only two months since these began, so wev are very close, and we have to be calm for the result we are waiting. trish: are you worried about juan guaido snow plans to go back to venezuela. the people want him and they need him there. but maduro said he wasn't allowed to leave the country in the first place. does that give maduro the wiggle room to say now you are in jail like every other political

prisoner they are aloud lock up? does that concern you? >> i'm concerned about juan. i talked with him today about that. he's a very courageous leader. he'll be back to venezuela. he knows the consequence that can bring to him. but he's making history for venezuela. he is make a commitment it will change. and it will be a testimony that change will be very fast to venezuela. trish: it's a revolution in a way in real-time we are seeing here. >> absolutely. it's the fall of the berlin wall until latin america, cuba, nicaragua, it will be a new chapter for freedom. trucker * thank you. -- trish: thank you.

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trish: a lot of news developing along the border there in colombia and venezuela. i'm in colombia tonight. i'm here alongside and recollection s coles. you remember a time when things were good. there was a time when the economy was thriving.

>> it's good to be here, trish. it's good to be in bogota that reminds me of what caracas used to be like. like many emerging markets we had our difficulties, but we had a very well functioning government. the country suffers the slings of the oil market. but there was a strong consumer market. there was a lot of consumer sector. trish: what happened? can we say the last 20 years is what has caused the pain today? >> we were on the way to turning venezuela away from socialism until chavez came. then he took a sharp turn to the left. and he embarked on his project, it was a power project. it wasn't a development project.

that socialism really only could last until what we have now. they have run out of other people's money. trish: at margaret thatcher once said. i know you advise people looking to invest in venezuela. it's hard to invest in because you have to idea what's going to happen. if you could fast forward for us and think through this, what will the opportunity be in -- what do you hope the opportunity will be in six months' time? >> for now it's wait and see. you know the sanction environment, an economy that is complete, it's hard for anyone to come and put money into the country, whether it's to buy securities on the secondary market or make foreign direct investments. venezuela is the country blessed with natural resources. we have the brain trust that's needed to redevelop venezuela

into a thriving economy. and i think the capital will come very quickly. >> people like yourself, right? you are living in america, but would love to be back home. that would be good to see. >> there are people -- there is a lot of debt outstanding that needs to be reckoned with. i know from talking to those people that they want the rebirth of venezuela as well. all that money is going to come from the private sector. the imf and those bilateral institutions can only provide so much. trish: coming up, somebody who knows the whole region very, very well, my dear friend david asman who spent a lot of time in nicaragua. he's going to walk us through the possibilities of what it could be for venezuela and wait could be for the western hemisphere should nicolas maduro

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[♪] trish: nicolas maduro, the brutal dictator in venezuela is starving his people and the world is watching, including the united states of america. vice president pence today telling me exclusively in an

interview here in bogota, colombia, that all options are on the table. this is a moment, this is a moment for america. it's a moment for the western hemisphere. and it could be the tipping point. we could see socialism move away and freedom come in. someone who knows a lot about this region, who wrote the america's column at the "wall street journal." my good friend david asman. david one were writing that couple at a time when venezuela wasn't quite as bad. but you know, chavez came in, and really as you heard andres explain, was the beginning of the end. 20 years later nearly things are starting to shift and you like julio borges believes this is

something that changes the world. >> the people who are most of excited are the people south border. most of people in the united states don't know as much about what's going on as the people in latin america who experienced socialism either directly in their own country or indirectly because of their contact with venezuela and cuba and nicaragua. they know very well that venezuela became the life blood for cuba and nicaragua after the demise of the soviet union. the soviet union supplied cuba with billions of dollars. 70% of the gdp of cuba came from the soviet union. but the soviet union died in 1992. when that happened, it looked like fidel castro would lose power because of the economy. it was only revived by the

emergence of hugo chavez. he came into power in 1999 in venezuela and he began to pour oil into cuba. they gave him, the security department gave him that iron fist that he uses in cuba so well and transferred that to venezuela. then chavez gave oil to nicaragua. and daniel ortega who got into power again during chavez's regime. if that lifeline is cut between venezuela and cuba and venezuela and nicaragua. regimes of the latter two countries. danny ortega in nicaragua and the successor to fidel castro in cuba, this may be the beginning of the end of a 60-year tyrannyn on the island of cuba and what's going on in nicaragua. trish: why is that good for us?

>> the reasons the soviet union was in cuba for so long. it provided them -- they were willing to spend billions of dollars there because it substituted for putting an tear craft carrier off the coast of florida you have 45-50 minutes away from the south coast of until is cuba. the fact the soviets were there, venezuela. and the soviets are still there. they are listening in the united states, they are causing all kinds of harm pursuing their goals throughout latin mayor car. and connections with the people we hate the most of. the iranians and hezbollah who have their bases in nicaragua and cuba. it would provide us with a sense of security in the united states that we haven't had for 60 years. trish: it would be pretty monumental and quite an achievement of this administration. you are watching it all very

carefully. as much as it would be an achievement for this administration, this is something that shouldn't be political. this is a chance to do what's right, to be on the right side of history. david asman, thank you, sir. we have much more live next. carl, i appreciate the invite here. as my broker... what am i paying you to manage my money? it's racquetball time. ♪ carl, does your firm offer a satisfaction guarantee? like schwab does. guarantee? ♪ carl, can you remind me what you've invested my money in. it's complicated. are you asking enough questions about how your wealth is being managed? if not, talk to schwab. a modern approach to wealth management.

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for the people there but for the world. and for future of everyone in the u.s u.s. i am back, live from -- we'll find out tomorrow. i'll see you tomorrow night. kennedy: north korea's dictator kim jong-un just arrived in vietnam, president has a mission, to convince lil' kim to give up the nukes, just before he hit the road today, president outlining some of his goals for the meeting. >> a good meeting, i think we could have a very good summit, i think we'll have a tremendous summit. we want denuclearization, i think he will have a country that will set a lot of records for speeds in terms of an economy. kennedy: a lot of records, a lot of speed, meetings start wednesday, trump's critics are

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