tv Trish Regan Primetime FOX Business April 1, 2019 8:00pm-9:00pm EDT
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on facebook and follow him on instagram. i don't have any of those things. i occasionally will tweet something out but my daughters have to help me. thanks for joining us. good night from new york. the crisis at the border growing even more dire. homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen ordering a surge of border patrol agents at the border to deal with the increasing rush of migrants. texas attorney general tim paxton is here on that. a major battle brewing on capitol hill as democrats demand the mueller report be released without any redactions. why this call for transparency could backfire on them. and socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez might want to go back and study history again, after falsely claiming congress amended the constitution to prevent franklin delano roosevelt from running for a fifth term. the details of that coming up.
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plus, speaking of socialism, comedian bill maher claiming socialism actually gives you more freedom. listen. >> conservatives like to push the canard that unfetterred capitalism makes you more free but actually, it's the right kind of socialism that makes you the freest. let's not even call it socialism. let's call it capitalism plus. david: what happened to his libertarianism? why he is blatantly wrong now? "trish regan primetime" begins right now. david: hi, everybody. i'm david asman in for trish regan. our top story, the trump administration taking action amid an unprecedented crisis at our southern border. homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen now ordering a surge of border patrol agents to the u.s./mexico border as thousands of illegal migrants
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attempt to cross it every day. while democrats continue to ignore or even deny that there is a crisis, president obama's former homeland security secretary jeh johnson says the numbers clearly demonstrate otherwise. >> by any measure, 4,000 apprehensions on our southern border in one day, 100,000 in a month, is a crisis. it's a crisis in central america, where the poverty and violence is occurring that causes these people to flee in the first place. it's a crisis in that it overwhelms our border security personnel to deal with that volume of people coming in. and it's a crisis in these communities on the border that have to absorb these populations. david: meanwhile, president trump is doubling down on his threat to close the u.s./mexico border if mexico does not do more to help stem the tide of migrants. joining me now, texas attorney general ken paxton. good to see you again. you know, it was only a month ago when the president was essentially called delusional by democrats and some in his own
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party for saying that there was a crisis at the border. now, even obama officials are saying exactly the same thing. what happened? >> well, i mean, the numbers don't lie. when you're talking about almost 100,000 in a month and those are just the ones that we're catching, who knows what the real numbers are. i think even the democrats are having to acknowledge we have a serious issue on the border. david: let me play at least some democrats and i will play one presidential candidate who is still talking about the border as though there's no crisis, no problem at all. play the sound bite of beto o'rourke. >> we do not need any walls. $30 billion, 2,000 miles long, 30 feet high. it will not be built on the international boundary line which is the center line of the rio grande river. that wall will be built well into the interior of someone's ranch, someone else's farm, someone else's home. you and i will be forced to take their property to solve a problem that we do not have.
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david: a problem we -- you know, i was saying that the president was called delusional. wouldn't you call that delusional, to say we don't have a problem down at the border? >> absolutely. he's ignoring facts. we have human trafficking going on. i would like to hear his response to the fact that texas is the second worst state in the country for human trafficking. i would love to hear him talk about all the homicides and crime we've had, about the drug smuggling. it's hard for me to believe that he's willing to say that in the face of facts. david: ken, when you have a crisis, when you have a tragedy, you have to set up usually a triage when emergency services go in to treat those who can be saved, to treat the most pressing problem that can be turned around. when you look at the crisis at the border, what needs treatment immediately? how would you do a triage on the border? >> i think the first thing you do is start looking at technology. in what ways can we use technology better. that's something that can maybe be implemented faster. obviously with kirstjen nielsen,
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what she did today by ordering more border patrol agents back to the border to actually stop people from coming in, that's the second thing that can be done more quickly. obviously the wall takes longer to build and that's going to be a long-term project. so i would say in that order. david: well, you know, the word gets out, it always amazes me about the way the grapevine works in immigrant communities, all the way from their origins, and something is happening in central american communities that make them believe that they have an easy pass once they go through the border. i mean, what specifically is it, do you know? because we hear of these caravans now that are not just thousands of people, but tens of thousands of people organizing down there. >> i think it's the loophole, the asylum loophole. they have been taught, they have been trained, they have been coached on what to say when they get there, and it's easy to get in because they can claim asylum and suddenly, they are in the country and they get to wait for, you know, potentially years
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before they actually have to go before a court and many of them disappear. i think they understand it's a pretty simple system to beat which is why congress needs to address our immigration laws. david: so what's the best -- i mean, other than getting congress together because you and i know that won't happen. even when republicans had both houses and the presidency, it didn't happen. same thing with democrats. so short of that, short of having some miracle and a consensus in congress, what can be done to change that amnesty provision that central americans are taking advantage of? >> well, obviously the law has to be changed. if congress is not going to do it, the president is dealing the best way he can. he's threatening to cut off aid which maybe will provide incentive for these countries to stop the illegal immigration north, and other than that, all he can do with this crisis on the border, the fact we have our detention centers filled, all he can do it send them away, tell them not to come back until their hearing is up. david: it's just unbelievable.
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very quickly, we keep hearing charges against the president saying you've got to listen to the experts. that's what the democrats say. listen to the experts. i have seen and heard from a lot of experts who say a wall would work pretty well. you're closer to the experts than most people. you deal with them every day. what do they tell you about a wall? >> look, i have been to the border, i have seen places where we don't have a wall, where people just walk across. i have seen places where we have a fence or a wall, whatever you want to call it, and people do not cross. it's a fact. it works. if you put a wall up, you are going to prevent some illegal immigration, probably a high percentage of it. so i don't understand this idea. we have other countries, israel put up a wall. it works if you put up a wall that's effective. david: attorney general ken paxton, great to see you. thank you very much. president trump cutting off aid to three central american countries for their role in what he says is a failure to stop illegal migrants from making their way to our border. acting white house chief of
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staff mick mulvaney defending the move as reasonable. >> if we're going to give these countries hundreds of millions of dollars, we would like them to do more. that, i would respectfully submit to you, is not an unreasonable position. we could prevent a lot of what's happening on the southern border by preventing people from moving into mexico in the first place. david: with me is former trump state department senior adviser, christian whiton. first of all, congress has allocated funds and those funds will be going out, but there is some discretion that the executive power does have to withhold funds from foreign countries, right? >> yeah. my view is congress has the power of the purse but the president has near supremacy under the constitution in foreign affairs and military affairs. this is a foreign affairs issue. i think the presidency has a lot of leeway. that's the legal argument. there's the political one which is foreign aid is very unpopular with the american public, and so the idea that we would actually expect something in return for
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our largesse, a little bit of courtesy, i think they agree with that. the white house would have a lot of political and public support in doing this. david: i love the common wisdom of the american people, because they're right. i've spent a lot of time in latin america. i followed foreign aid programs. very rarely does it go to the people that it's meant to go to. more often than not, it's siphoned off by all the people who have cushy connections, their brother-in-law's the secretary of transportation, he gets $1 million that a.i.d. had originally meant to go to a transportation system. you name it. there are all kinds of ways for the powerful people in these countries to siphon off the majority of money that goes down there, no? >> right. if you pour money into a corrupt system, often what you get is more corruption, especially if you are a partner in implementing whatever program you have is a corrupt government. if you can get it into the hands of entrepreneurs, it's different but that's very hard to do.
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just look at the scoreboard. look at history. foreign aid really took off beginning in the kennedy administration in the 1960s and have these economies changed drastically, changed the way they do business? is there different corruption? also, all we are really asking in this case is for them to enforce their own laws, for mexico to enforce its own laws against illegal immigration from its south. not like we are asking for that much, frankly. david: by the way, john bolton knows this very well. he's a member of the administration. he was in a previous administration head of a.i.d., the agency for international development. they put out billions of dollars so he saw first-hand, i have spoken to him, he used to be a contributor here at fox, we talked about how aid money was wasted. he, i imagine, is very much involved in this process of figuring out how to stop money from going to these boondoggles. >> yeah. i think john is a great practitioner of using all of the tools available to exercise national power, so not just the military but also our tremendous economic influence, whether it's
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trade, people who want to engage in trade with the united states and obviously we have huge leverage over mexico, if we choose to push that lever. but also, our economic assistance and other methods. also, it's just not being a sucker. we don't want people to look at the united states and think we're a sucker which is happening now if we are paying people who are abusing us. david: it has been happening for decades and decades and decades, because as i said, all of these well-connected people get millions of dollars. they send it almost directly to switzerland. they might as well just send it to switzerland instead of going through a third country. but i'm just wondering if we really will see follow-through on this. we have heard other presidents talk about it, going back to president reagan, talking about how much of a boondoggle it was, but they never seem to be able to change the system. do you think this is different this time? >> the white house does seem determined now. also, the possibility of closing u.s. ports of entry on the mexican border to stem some of the tide of refugee applicants. but you know, this is sort of
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like obama and his red light. i think the president knows he has to follow through on this. he's made a threat. the other side has not changed their conduct and so we just, you know, got to do this. if the courts want to interfere, if congress, people like bob n menendez want to complain we are cutting off aid to people who need us, the president is on very good political and legal ground here. david: he has plenty of baggage on his own. finally i want to talk about closing the border. that will be a hard nut to crack. how do you deal with hundreds of billions of dollars that manufacturers in our country send down to mexico? if you hold up goods at the border for just a week, you are talking about billions of dollars of damage to companies on our side of the border. >> it would. the question is if it should come to that or if there's some creative way you could stop the flow of people and allow some commerce through. you could close ports of entry that are particularly prone to have people come and make phony claims for asylum for refugee
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status. you are supposed to have a well-founded fear of persecution. very few people who come to our borders have that unless they are coming from venezuela or cuba. if you are just coming as an economic migrant you shouldn't qualify. people are abusing the system. maybe you could close some ports of entry where there's a big factor and leave others open for commerce to still take place or commerce via rail and aircraft could still happen. we have a tremendous lever to apply to mexico. it might be time, the president has backed into this by a court and congress that does nothing. david: however it's done, it will be very difficult. however, it's already a difficult situation down there, an impossible situation, and that has to end. christian whiton, great to see you. appreciate it. democrats demanding to see the full mueller report, claiming they want complete transparency. but why the move they're planning to make could backfire. and socialist darling alexandria ocasio-cortez making a major misstep in her attempt to blame republicans when she falsely
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david: breaking tonight, house democrats refusing to back down, arguing they need the entire mueller report with zero redactions and they need it now, demanding that the unredacted mueller report be in their own hands by tomorrow. now, those demands are led by house judiciary chair democrat jerry nadler and today, many have pointed out that he was singing a very different tune 20 years ago, when the president under investigation was democrat, bill clinton. watch. >> there is, i gather, a 400 or
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500 page report, all kinds of material, that it would be unfair to release so i assume what's going to have to happen before anything else happens is that somebody, the staff of the judiciary committee, perhaps the chairman and ranking minority member of the judiciary committee, is going to have to go over this material, at least the 400 or 500 pages in the report, to determine what is fit for release and what is as a matter of decency and protecting people's privacy rights, people who may be totally innocent, third parties, what must not be released at all. david: hm. joining me now, american majority ceo ned ryan and former obama campaign adviser david mohey. david, why is it okay to do something now with this president that was not okay to do then with that president? >> well, i'm not sure there's a gigantic difference as big as might be implied. the truth is, this is about positioning and ned's father, i
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saw him here in philly run in 1971. both sides, it's sides now, are trying to get positioning. the president's got a big lead. he's defined through the barr summary the mueller report but only 29% of the american people think that that clears the president, that that's enough. 420 members of congress, big majorities of the american people want to see the full report. remember, there's precedent going back 20 years, the starr report, watergate, those reports were issued quickly. congress -- david: they did have all the salacious stuff. ned, the fact is there is a law even though that was a different counsel system back then, current law has different definitions of what can be released and the role of the attorney general, but the law is specific. i think nadler laid it out pretty well. a grand jury will investigate a lot of innocent people and hear evidence that may be totally wrong like the trump dossier, for example, yet that will come
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out in the full report. the innocent should be protected. that's why some stuff has to be redacted. right? >> well, no, exactly. you make a great point. what they're asking the attorney general to do is illegal. he needs to redact grand jury testimony. he also needs to redact any information that pertains to ongoing investigations. democrats are playing a political game right now and it's a dishonest one because they are assuming that most of the american people don't understand how the laws work. you know, bill barr has been a very serious, honest public servant. he was by unanimous consent pretty much appointed as attorney general under bush 41. this man wants to have disclosure, he wants to i think have as much disclosure as possible. quite frankly, a lot of us on this side, republicans want to see as much disclosure as possible, not only with the mueller report but the fisa applications, with the full memorandum. they want to see everything. david: david, do you have any doubt for a split second that if what barr was saying about the report was not true, that mr.
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mueller would have come out now shouting from the rooftops saying that's not at all what i had in mind? >> well, he is the most disciplined poker player in any room, let's remember that. david: you think barr could be lying through his teeth about what's in the report? >> no, no, i don't think he's lying through his teeth. i think a summary is a summary and four pages is not 480 pages. remember, congress has a different role and threshold than mueller. mueller couldn't subpoena, indict or get beyond a reasonable doubt in terms of apparently collusion. congress has a different responsibility. so they are going to have to do their job because they won in the greatest majority since watergate and they have to win in 2020 if they want to beat trump on health care, jobs and bringing the country together. the issues that matter to most of the american people. david: go ahead, ned. >> how on earth are they going to be able to prove anything that mueller didn't have the power to do? he had a team of partisan lawyers who had $25 million to
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$35 million, the unlimited special counsel power, and for two years, pretty much unlimited resources, they couldn't make a fairy tale turn into facts. why doesn't adam schiff, maxine waters, any of these collusion truthers think they will somehow prove something mueller couldn't do in 674 days? they are chasing a phantom, david. i will say this last thing. the american people have moved on. you know the last thing i'll say is democrats had two years to prove this russian fairy tale. why don't you give bill barr two weeks to do his job. david: the one thing bill barr was unequivocal about -- excuse me, david, what bill barr was unequivocal about in terms of his review of the mueller report was that there was zero evidence for collusion. right? >> no, he didn't say -- that's wrong. david: yes, he did. >> he didn't say zero evidence. he didn't say zero evidence. >> yes, he did. >> he didn't say zero evidence. one more point. one more point. none of the three of us have read the mueller report. let's read the mueller report. i predict there will be stuff
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that each side is going to be unhappy with. david: i predict he is going to say as mr. barr did that there was zero evidence of collusion. that's what he said. all right. got to leave it there. >> he said couldn't be proven. couldn't be proven. david: again, after two years if he can't prove it with everything mueller did, nobody can. coming up, 2020 presidential candidate kamala harris claiming president trump's presidency has caused quote, a lot of us to go through individual and group therapy. fox and friends weekend cohost pete hegseth on why this type of rhetoric will only make president trump's base stronger. and alexandria ocasio-cortez's attempted jab at the republican party just backfired. why she may need to go back to history class. in our new house. ahh, new house, eh? well, you should definitely see how geico could help you save on homeowners insurance. nice tip. i'll give you two bucks for the chair. two?! that's a victorian antique! all right, how much for the recliner, then?
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take a listen. >> these last two years and some months have certainly caused a lot of us to start speaking to an inanimate object called a television, and to shout at that thing. it has caused a lot of us to go through individual and group thera therapy. it has caused a lot of us to feel a bit of despair and depression and anxiety and fear. david: that was california senator and 2020 democrat presidential candidate kamala harris, claiming the trump presidency has literally driven people to get help. joining me now is u.s. army veteran and "fox & friends" weekend cohost pete hegseth who never needed a psychiatrist. >> it's true. so far. david: what strikes me most about the democrats running is how little they have to say of substance. there's talk about we are
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depressed, we want this, in a general way. the only person who says anything substantive to me is bernie sanders because at least he's willing to come out and say he's a socialist and wants to turn america into a socialist country. >> that's why i think, if i could bet everyone in america right now, i will give you the field, you give me bernie sanders, i will say bernie sanders will be the democratic nominee. i think he's the original gangster. he's a socialist before it was cool, calling it democratic socialism. everyone else is trying to run as bernie lite, trying to look authentic. kamala harris said common sense. we know about trump derangement syndrome. the left has never wanted to accept the results of 2016 since election night, and they found other reasons, whether it's russia or something else, as to why he won. cory booker in that same event talked about maga minions. they dismiss a whole side of the country as racist and bigots because -- david: meanwhile, congresswoman
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alexandria ocasio-cortez making a big history flub in an attempt to accuse republicans of wrongdoing. listen. >> we have and carry super majorities in the house and the senate. we carried the presidency. they had to amend the constitution of the united states to make sure roosevelt did not get re-elected. david: the problem with that of course is fdr died in 1945 and the amendment was not until 1947. he died in office. they didn't keep him out of office. >> no, they didn't. david: when you think of aoc and you think of how many mistakes she makes, not only in terms of history but in terms of economics, you just wonder how she was educated in boston university, whether she was ever told that the most number of deaths that have ever been committed in the history of the planet was committed under socialist government. >> she was not educated. she was indoctrineated. she doesn't like the 22nd amendment because she believes it stopped fdr.
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he could have had a fifth term in her mind and the new deal could have continued. i will take her up on that. get rid of the 22nd amendment and trump can run again in 2024. let him run for a third or fourth term. that's the extension of her logic. she's someone who pretends to live in history but doesn't understand what made this country great from the beginning. has nothing to do with white guys who were slave owners, everything to do with free people and free ideas that eventually came -- david: well, she brought the white guy scenario back up to the tea party. play that sound bite. >> we are actually talking about something substantive. we're not calling anyone names. people say tea party of the left and i find this phrase very interesti interesting, this phrasing very interesting because the grounding of the tea party was xenophob xenophobia, the underpinnings of white supremacy. david: this is recent history. i know she's very young but she should at least realize what was happening. the tea party began as a
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shout-out, people who thought the government was becoming too intrusive. >> under bush. she has the audacity to say i'm not going to call anyone names but if you were in the tea party, pretty sure you were a white supremacist. that's the definition of calling someone a name. by the way, the tea party started because a lot of folks on the right thought even george w. bush was spending too much money and our government was out of control. it went on to believe our founding principles are important, our federal government should be reined in, we should have a conversation about constitutional authority and prerogatives there. that's a very legitimate conversation to be had. but when you stand and look at your political opponents and say you are a white supremacist, you are calling them names and dismissing legitimate grievances they have. listen, i thought barack obama's attempt to transform america was something i didn't support but i didn't call him names and say he was a bad person. i said your politics are wrong and i want to beat you at the ballot box. the left doesn't get that. they want personal destruction. they want to impugn your motives as an individual and then pretend they are the pure ones
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in the process. she perfected that because she was baptized in it in higher education. david: i just have to, we are focusing on her. she's not running for president. she's too young to do that. >> will she admit the founders got something right? david: but the idea of bernie sanders being the nominee for the democrat party even though he's an avowed socialist, he was applauding fidel castro. he was even saying kind things about the soviet union which had killed at least 20 million, as many as 40 million people in the name of socialism. don't you think that it's just going to be a slam-dunk for president trump if bernie sanders is nominated? >> yes. that's why i want him to win. listen, i think he's the soul of the democrat party. i think they lie to themselves. they want the most electable candidate which i think would be joe biden, who i call jeb biden. there's no constituency for joe biden. he's too moderate, too yesterday. they won't support him. they believe if you are an authentic progressive, you are electable. that is bernie sanders more than
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anyone else on the ticket. maybe he picks kamala harris as a vp, i don't know. but the energy is still there for him. they thought he got cheated last time. i'm telling you, he will get crushed in the general which is great if you love america, but the socialism infection is deeper than we think. it's really unfortunate, especially for young people. david: it would be historic in a bad sense. pete hegseth, good to see you. thank you very much. straight ahead, the latest details on the whistleblower claiming the trump administration overturned 25 security clearance denials. that's coming up. -♪ just like any other family ♪ the house, kids, they're living the dream ♪ ♪ and here comes the wacky new maid ♪ -maid? uh, i'm not the... -♪ is she an alien, is she a spy? ♪ ♪ she's always here, someone tell us why ♪ -♪ why, oh, why -♪ she's not the maid we wanted ♪ -because i'm not the maid! -♪ but she's the maid we got -again, i'm not the maid.
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- we pray that god will move upon your heart to act right now and send an emergency gift of just $25 so that we can help more frail and lonely elderly holocaust survivors in the former soviet union before it's too late. david: new reaction tonight, the majority democrat house oversight committee now releasing details from a self-proclaimed whistleblower, a career white house staffer says she kept a list of more than two dozen people who had their security clearances denied and then those denials were overturned by the white house, allowing possibly disqualified
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people into highly secure roles. oversight chair congressman elijah cummings spoke with our reporters just moments ago. watch. >> now, the things that she has told us are shocking. there were a number of people who should not have received a security clearance. she thought this could not be resolved inside this white house and she needed to come to -- she needed an independent type of situation. david: independent type of situation. is that what this is? my next guest sits on the house oversight committee. joining me is tennessee republican congressman and dr. mark green. good to see you. thank you for coming in. so what is the charge and how could you consider elijah cummings, i'm sure he's a nice guy, but how could you consider him to be independent? >> yeah, this is absolutely ridiculous. the president broke no law. he hasn't leaked any classified
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information. all he did was override the decision, the recommendation of the clearance committee. you compare that to what hillary clinton did. she broke the law. she put classified information on an unsecure server open to our enemieenemies. they weren't worried about it then. the real issue with these security clearances, they are just attacking the president but the real issue with these security clearances, we have soldiers sitting a full year waiting for their security clearance to be done. they are in classified jobs. they can't be trained. they just do kp duty for like a year. that's what the oversight committee should be looking into. instead, we are going after the president again, chasing another rabbit. it's just ridiculous. david: yeah. by the way, we should mention you are not only a medical doctor in real life, but you are also a west point grad so you know a lot about what goes on in the military. all right. what i think is going on here is very simple. they lost the mueller investigation, they put all their chips in that, in his corner, thinking he was going to come up with collusion. he didn't, he said it didn't exist and no evidence for it, so
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they are moving on. but this is a pretty thin read to develop a story that might lead to an impeachment, isn't it? >> yeah, it really is. at some point, they are going to be investigating president trump's lemonade stand when he was 12 years old. they can't help themselves. this is all they know how to do. we got real problems, though. i asked chairman cummings, i said can we look into army active duty suicides which increased. he promised me we would do it. chairman cummings, why aren't we doing it? we will just go chase the president some more. this is ridiculous. honestly, it's an opportunity cost. we are wasting this committee's time and wasting the american public's dollar and they are throwing the american public's trust down the drain. yeah. david: i just want to ask about the mueller, the hangover for democrats of the mueller investigation. obviously, they are looking for something else, but you know, we shouldn't think that just because mr. mueller didn't find collusion that that's the end of the story.
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there are probably other members, if you will, of the deep state and we know whereof i speak. we are talking about the people who were involved in the fbi and the doj trying to conspire to keep the president out of the white house, that's the deep state that exists or that existed, a lot of those people have left but i'm sure there are a lot of or people that are still in that have the same kind of desires about trump. are you looking forward as somebody who has president trump's back to try to avoid any kind of implication or something that might happen in the future that would be like the charge of collusion? >> david, there's two reasons why i want to see that report and as much of the report as can legally be released. i want to see it for two reasons. one, i want to know how all of these fake dossiers -- the fake dossier led to this investigation in the first place. the fisa warrants, how our fbi, you know, used fake information to get warrants from a judge. i want to look into that.
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that's one very important piece that needs the information out there. the other thing that nobody seems to be talking about, the mueller report very clearly showed that russia a sovereign state, attacked the election process of the united states. nobody's talking about that. hey, we just got attacked, guys. oh, okay, let's go look into a few security overrides, security clearance overrides from the president. how about we use this oversight committee and find out what russia really did? how about we dig into that? david: you know, it wasn't just the stuff that was going to the fisa court. it was the members of the fisa court that approved of a warrant to spy on americans based on information -- on data and sketchy information that was not as strong for spying on an american as you are supposed to have. the deep state runs beyond just the doj and the fbi into the fisa court itself, and lord knows what other organs of the federal government. >> absolutely. we have to know exactly what the
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fisa court was told and if they were told information that was either incorrect or information was left out. that's more important to me, you know, than any of this other stuff. it's very clear that collusion delusion is dead. let's move on from that. let's find out, you know, about russia's attack and let's find out how all this got started with those fisa warrants in the first place. david: but we were so close, congressman, so close to having an election overturned, the desired result of an election overturned by a few people who didn't like one of the people running for president. that's a pretty scary thing to happen in america. >> yeah, it is very scary. i think you talked about it earlier on your show, with kamala harris talking about people needing therapy and all of this stuff. the only thing that this mueller report has induced that's second to the president winning, i mean, they are out there chasing these therapists because the mueller report didn't give them what they wanted and that only
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is second to his victory. they can't accept that he won. they can't accept that mueller couldn't find collusion. and when attorney general barr releases what he does release, he's not going to break the law. he's not going to release everything. there is going to be stuff in there that he can't let out. they are just going to continue to push this narrative. it's 2020 for them. that's what it's about. david: congressman, doctor and combat veteran, mark green, great to see you. thank you for being with us. appreciate it. coming up, comedian bill maher thinks all socialism needs is just a little rebranding. the new name he wants to call it, that's next. i'm working to keep the fire going
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conservatives like to push the canard that unfeter eed capitalism makes you more free but actually, it's the right kind of socialism that makes you the freest. let's not even call it socialism. let's call it capitalism plus. david: that was comedian bill maher embracing socialism as capitalism plus, just another member of the hollywood elite pushing a form of government that no one wants. will american voters buy into maher's deceptions about what socialism is and what it does to a society? let's ask economist donald
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luskin. good to see you. first of all, i wonder what bill maher is ready to give up. maybe his beverly hills house. there's a lot of things he could choose from because he's going to have to give up something. i just would like to see a list of what he would have to give up. >> oh, his list consists of things you have to give up, believe me. he wouldn't advocate this stuff if he ever thought it was going to happen and if it did happen, if he didn't think he was going to come out on top. in fact, he gives up a lot every time he opens his big mouth. he's given up any claim to being a comedian. there's nothing funny about socialism. socialism killed 100 million people in the 20th century. it put stalin, hitler, mao, pol pot, you have 100 million corpses he's making unfunny jokes about. socialism isn't capitalism plus except that it's capitalism plus slavery, capitalism plus starvation, capitalism plus prison camps, capitalism plus death camps, capitalism plus genocide. this just ain't funny, man. david: it's not, but you know
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what's kind of surprising about him, i had thought he was a libertarian. i thought albeit a left libertarian, not a right libertarian. but i thought he would understand the coercive dimension of socialism that leads to the millions of deaths whether -- and again, we should mention, there's socialism on the right, it's called national socialism, that's what nazi stands for, or on the other side, and it's where it's called communism. but he really gave up his libertarian credentials, didn't he? >> you must be a very generous soul, sir, to ever imagine anybody like that is any kind of libertarian. at best he's a libertine, one of these hollywood go-go guys who's just living the life and catering to his hbo audience of little teenyboppers who haven't been out in the real world long enough to know that socialism kills. he's leading these people to the slaughterhouse. it's just not funny.
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david: you know who knows not only the realities of what socialism is, what socialism has done in the 20th century, there's no form of government that's ever killed more people than socialism has, but he also knows the hollywood elite. that's president trump. he's dealt with both sides of the coin. he understands the danger of socialism and he understands how to get under the skin of the elite. so if, in fact, we have a socialist running, maybe one who is trying to disguise their socialist intents but nevertheless, is socialist, he's going to call them out the same way he did in his state of the union address. >> there have been others from hollywood who knew the truth about socialism. there was ronald reagan. for god's sake, he was president of the screen actors guild. there was john wayne. there was james stewart. david: forgive me, at the time we didn't have an idea that we would have a socialist who would be running as a democrat party
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nominee. and we may have one this time. >> indeed we might. you know, i have enough faith in america to think that we can tolerate that kind of disease in our body politic and that the antibodies will cluster around that and just expel it. let the election of 2020 be a referendum. the individual versus the collective. capitalism versus socialism. i'm perfectly happy to take that vote. i know exactly how that's going to turn out. the american people aren't idiots despite what bill maher may think. david: we already have seen polls, last time we polled it at fox news, by two to one, americans thought a move toward socialism, bad. move towards capitalism, good. by two to one. i think the president's on the side of the american people on this. don't you? >> no question about it. when you think about bill maher in front of his little studio audience and every time he tells one of these little jokes, know why the audience laughs? you ever been in one of those audiences? there's a big sign saying laugh,
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laugh, applaud, applaud. that's just what socialists love. they love to have a central planner telling them how to think, what to do, how to act, where to stand in line, where to get their ticket punched, and maher meanwhile is standing onstage, he's like a little tinpot god, man. well, the american people aren't going to put a man like that in the white house or any of the clown show that's running from the democratic party. david: you know who i blame more than the young people who were applauding when the applause sign goes on, are the teachers and the university professors that have refused to tell them anything about the dangers of socialism and what it would mean in everybody's life. >> that's why they don't teach history in schools anymore. david: we got to leave it at that. great to see you. more after this. but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees
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