follow the venezuela story. the gentleman he just had on is interesting and had very good points in why we should be concerned about it. kennedy is next. >> thank you. >> major shake up at white house, president looks to get tough or immigration. outdoor in last 24 hours. department of homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen and u.s. secret service director randarandolph we'll told more wl follow. >> we're learning that president trump blamed her for record number of illegal immigrants who have been crossing into u.s. regardless, nielsen said she still supports the president's immigration goals. and will continue to help as

much as she can. >> i am sure that president's goal is securing the border, i will continue to support all afford to address humanitarian and security crises on border, i look toward to finishing to support them from the outside, i have spent last 24 hours since yesterday, talking with government officials, and administration officials and members of congress to assure a smooth transition. >> all right, some insider claim white house senora visor stephen mill yormiller was behind the po get her out. secret service chief, will begun within weeks, part of dhs since 9/11. now what? political analyst are expectations president to make massive changes on border control, joining me tonight. for the president 2020 campaign, marc lotter is back. >> thank you. kennedy: a tough position for

anyone in charge of dhs. no matter their personal believes are. if it is really a no win. >> you are right, congress has failed to do its job over many decades, president trump has called on congress to change the immigration laws and asylum laws, they recognized it was a crisis years ago. the president warned. but when you of hampered by district court judge making policy, and congress that does nothing. not much even the best homeland security secretary could do. kennedy: no, and there was limits to what she was willing to do. she had personality conflicts with people within the administration, not only miller but including bolton as well. who do you think was behind the

push, to get her out? >> i served much of first year in white house -- i can tell you number of times people were rumored to be secret power broker. pulling the string, there one person in the white house who makes the distincts that is president donald trump. kennedy: how do you get along with him, if you are kevin mcaleenan. he is from cbp, now coming in for dhs secretary job, interim job. how do you get along with the president who has his own intuition and action about those who serve around him, how do you make the border a little bit tighter, when even democrats say that it is untenable with a hundred thousand people crossing illegally. >> great they admit it is a crisis after months or years of denying it when you in the white house. one thing that people don't realize that president does not

surround himself with yes people, he pits people who -- picks people who are often times opposite side of an issue, in the end he makes the decision, your job is to execute. that is where new secretary will find themselves and new leadership making sure they make best case possible for achieving president's goals that is is -- stopping flow of drug, child traffics, and exploiting women. then -- >> let's talk about mexico a little bit. mick mulvaney, acting chief of staff for president, said that mexico is doing more than the democrat right now, mexico stepped up their game. what would you like to see both mexico and the democrats do in the near and long-term? >> in near-term, mexico needs to do everything it can to stop the migrants from coming through mexico illegally to enter our

country illegally, they ar are - trespassing in mexico first. kennedy: what do you expect mexico to do? do you want them to deport these people? back to places like hondurus, el salvador and guatemala? or do you want mexico to absorb the people many of them in need when mexico does not have the strongest social safety net. what do you expect to see from them? >> i think there a combination of things they can do, i would leave policy decision to white house to work through that system. and but we're seeing them step up, we're seeing them step up, on their southern border to prevent people from coming in. we're seeing them trying to deport many that they are finding on that path along the way. and in some cases as we've seen on our southern border, they are housing people, and helping to tend to them while they go

through the ase asylum process . that is where congress has to get in? you. brien: you ar -- >> you are right, congress has to figure out a better way to vet people. and chea good people who want te here and work, and tight labor market they need to alot spaces for that as well, but when you have people like stephen miller whispering in president's ear that all immigration, u includig legal immigration needs to be curtailed that is very problematic. >> you have seen president come out before on many occasions, including this year, saying we need more legal immigration. kennedy: i have seen the president say, that but i have seen people around him talk how they want to curtailing well immigration, include -- legal

immigration including stephen miller. >> that goes to my point that president surrounds himself with people on both sides, you have seen president calls the shot, say we need more legal immigration, we have more jobs than unemployment people. kennedy: right. >> it has to be done legally, and have you come through the system, prove have you the skills and ability too compete and succeed. kennedy: and steyer to desire to mart pay thparticipate. >> absolutely. kennedy: i agree. there are so many people who would love to come to this country do, just that, who don't' a hand out, they will make this country a better place you this for your time, you have your hadn'ts full, marc lotter. >> thank you. kennedy: attorney general william barr to testify tomorrow, regarding dodge's 2020 -- doj 2 2020 budget. it is there that -- is it there

he'll handle such specific budget questions as when can we see the mueller report and why can't just give us the mueller report, yeah, budgetary concer concerns. president trump said, even that will not be enough for them, tweeting that democrats will never be satisfied no matter what they get, hoimp the how mut or how much pages they get, it will never end. that is the way that life goes. >> president trump stepping up pressure to get their happeneds ohands onthe president's tax re. should the democrats stay the course or do the classy thing, quit while they are behind. congressman matt gates is back. >> thank you. >> are you confident in redactions this attorney general is making.

>> i am, he is moving athlete -- lightning speed had. i don't think there will be any new information with the findings. kennedy: is that what democrats are hoping for. >> it is, this would be like saying we lost the baseball game but we want to see the box score we might have won top of third inning, they are hoping to tweeze through something. i don't think that country will flip on you know some like law review article type answer to rob vehiclobstruction of justic. just. kennedy: i think that special counsel should have made the determination on obstruction of justice. i think he di did that as a favr to some of his democrat friends.

should house get an unredacted version of the mueller report. >> it would be easier to make the case for congress to get all that information, if congress was not so bad at handling it. how request -- can we make argument that people like adam schiff need to see most sensitive intelligence, they spent two years mick characterizing -- mix characterizing everything they see. beyond just mueller probe and washington, he is one of "gang of 8", he sees most sensitive intelligence, we have to rely on his -- how a am i to rely on wht he said, when he says there is two years of collusion which existed only in his brain. i'm sure congress will see, that but frankly, i would like to get

as much of the to public and congressional same time, last thing we need are members of congress characterizing. >> when adam schiff, a good way of describing it adam schiff and devin nunes was going back and ford witforth with their memo io annoying, so many of us saying give us the primary source so we can determine for ourselves. >> you would agree that if there of grand jury transcripts with active proceedings you can't just decide pause we'r because l interested right now. >> i understand, but you top make sure a democrat president in fight irure is -- future is o protected. talking about your green real

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hoohook 'em horns or something. >> no. kennedy: let's talk legal ramifications, they are no misdemeanors, they are real crimes with real-time. they can be doing decades in prison if all does not go in their favor. >> those two targets are used by prosecutor as leverage tools to plead out because they carry high peppalities. -- penalty, 97% of federal defendant plead out of those half get less than guideline. and then absolutely those parents should if evidence is overwhelming. given singer is singing should plead out, those who keep quiet. he -- >> e-mails and texts, he was

working and milking a lot of families while you were surveillance, working with federal government on this case. i think you are right. here is the thing. felicity huffman there were parts of her statement i thought were good, i read some. she said, i want to okay to apoo students to work hard every day to get to college and parents, i did not expects that level of contrition from her. >> she also apologized to her own daughter. she did not know. kennedy: 15,000 versus the 7 figures of other family. >> we were wondering is there more to felicity huffman portion, they were talking about 15 thousand thing, people spend hundreds of thousands, lori

loughlin family 500 k for both kids, i was impressed with statement, in a world where we analyze people apologies, she nailed it or her prperson nailed it. from what judge said today 10 months or less for her, i was glad to see, she is leading by example. i love that she apologized to kids and parents. >> so, she is apologizing now. but she did not feel quite as bad when she was paying someone to doctor her child's college entrap exam. >> of course, i appreciate the amology, everyone is in order who that is fine. you know hopefully less than a year for her, she think ising tg rule of public opinion, everyone hates them already now you will remember i apologized to signing autographs and waves, like a rock star. i'm going to do my 6 hours in

prison. but, i appreciate that perfect prmove. and fall on sword, be first to say here i am. everyone else has to follow. you are just doing like she did or now you try to fight it because you are rich society that thinks you can beat it,. kennedy: that is a good point, even if lori loughlin and mossimo they release a statement, it will be like come on such a silver medal. >> she was the over achieving housewife anyway. >> right. >> you did -- i thought interesting. macy was not implicated. kennedy: but he knew about it. >> i find that strange, how bad mommy gets the rap. >> i fill she took the entire thing and apologized to every group of person and took rap for him, i be bad one person he can get work, and in two years or

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critical they need to shut their fat mouth. >> that will im capitalism neede reformed, like anything a car, like anything a plane, a schalll system it needs to be reformed to work better. >> i don't think it is sustainable, we can do it together we're we'll do do it in conflict. there will be a 1 will be oneh and poor. kennedy: if capitalism needs to be reformed it needs government to be smaller and less involved. creates a false sense of necessity and socialism they

champion and rail at immorality of trimming government scope, capitalism lifts people out of every time of property, including extreme poverty and creates wealth that leads to technology and lower infant mortality rates and anticapitalist socialism takes and hordes resources creates dependency, and shames wealth and creativity, one of these systems is implicitly immoral and other is capitalism, every democrat run for president is doing their best bernie sanders impression, and whining about 1%. as if our economic system has a built in class rigidity. and professor shows us this is hogwash, 12% of population for at heist one year -- at least one year, be in 1% of income

distribution, 73% of americans will spend at least one year, in top 20% suck on that hard stat commies ! only pete buttigieg s right about dangers of crony capitalism that speaks to reach of corporation to a susceptible government that too big and dump to police itself. >> now that rich, that is the memo. kennedy: so fashionable to hate the rich now, a bunch of robin hoods, cnbc run a story about cycpacycpathic tendencies aboute

billionaires, alexandria ocasio-cortez said, justifying -- because of empathy narcissism, dishonesty are great. made a tiny handful of people billion area, land many more in prison while not getting adequate healthcare is very 2019, it does not make sense. should we round you of go ahead take their money? yea. panel is back. pete buttigieg was right on when he spoke about illegal the crony capitalism, it. capitalism requires democracy to thrive. in u.s. corporations are too big and they are ones that use government to their open

advantage that is most stifling force. >> we say loopholes for a lot of different things. the breaks are there sometimes when you are angry at amazon for being too big i can see both sides, that saying what is a 2019 thing that a 2016 thing to say, i know it cool because aoctweets it out, people get likes, always cool to hate the rich, and make fun of them, say we'll make mun o fun of ourselv. aoc and bernie sanders are popular he is hold, maybe has a bunch more houses than i do. kennedy: the class welfare is a hollow argument, a washington university professary said many more people enjoy some time in top 1% than democratic socialives will ever let on. there is great deal more economic mobility you look at people's earning, patterns over

course of their lifetime. people do move a lot. that is a good thing but the democratic socialives will not admit that is about what happened in america. >> that is why you see many of candidates run away from democratic socialism, you have elizabeth warren talking about what she called a just capitalism. that is what mayor pete called democratic tha that willism. kennedy: -- capitalism. kennedy: a big difference. this could happen outside of harsh -- framework that warren is calling for that punishing small business owners. >> we don't have enough the mayor pete plan to compare it. >> take it back, you take it pack right now. i know -- >> she loves mayor pete. >> i do love him. >> i am also into someone like elizabeth warren. kennedy: kennedy: was she a rogueo rode stolscholar.

>> mayor pete. kennedy: micex -- my, sexy my gy boyfriend. >> yes. >> i am a fan of his but i want a fair democratic primary we look at people's accomplishments. kennedy: like someone who went from private sector to indiana to a small town of 100,000 people, overwhelmingly won reelection from people who adore him who has a pretty -- -- >> i have not written a piece on real clear politics about how much i enjoy mayor pete, there are a bunch of other candidates. kennedy: he is the one. >> it locked down. we don't care. >> joe -- >> that who jealous [ laughter ] >> i think that corporate capture that mayor pete talked

about is disingenuous the real capture is over regulation, the over is timey is thwarting of any time of economic movement that businesses need, you talked about that corporate tax break he discusses that does not exist without legislative involvement. there has to be an ownership of congress, i also think that was an over simplification of oligarch situation in russia. kennedy: you are right in pointing that out that that was baked in to the casserole, that was there before free market ever had its flirting a with former soviet union. >> the villain in this conditio- conversation would be over regulation too big government and overreach and i don't understand that those on left continue to pine for. kennedy: they want power and control. >> people to pay fair share. >> fair share

[inaudible] kennedy: thank you. >> prim president trump rampingp his pressure on iran today, first time that feds put that label on part of a foreign government, secretary of state pompeo explaind. >> they have killed over 600 american soldiers. you can't have peace and stability and security in middle east without weakening the islamic revolutio revolutionaryd corps. we'll save american lives and create more stability, peace and security in middle east. kennedy: they have between 150, 150,000 soldiers they control the ballistic missile program.

it will make middle east more or less stable. arguments for both sides, joining me now, christian whiten is back welcome back. >> good to see you. >> let's talk about the guy in charge of the guard. sole manny called -- sulemany called one of most powerful people in the world, you don't hear his name a lot, tell me about his and his involvement. >> you have to be careful with analogies this is a -- you look at irgc like the ss, political army, that foe goes alongside yr regular army. the main bulwark of the regime. >> they have a lot of money to do that. >> an economic force. kennedy: this is not an

optimistic caliphate that selling body parts in dirty oil, they have a lot more money now thanks to obama administration. and you have a lot of instability middle east that iran is trying to capitalized on, people like the joint chief chair joe dunford saying that this could be dangerous for american men and women who wear uniform in middle east. what do you think about general dunford pushing back on this. >> this argument has been around for a while. i think they are wrong, they think that iranians will say that americans soler - soldiers are terrorists took i guess by -- if you look at people we fight. almost none adhere that anything resembling law of war, geneva conditio--convention.

i don't think this changes anything for us. kennedy: iran central command middle east terrorist group? >> they don't have an exposure to ira iranian legal team, or ae treat or forces as terrorists they are not terrorists, they have complied to rule of war, sitcom's job, is making life hard for the iranian regime. top mission is that and other bureaucratic arguments, this is a big deal, it has taken two and a half years to bring in about, a big night and day thing, you look at when trump came into office, boeing was going to talk about to irk. iran. hstopped at, that stopped europeans from trading with them now going after various sources

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