the u.s. and e.u. liz: 7 million jobs openings. more job openings than workers is pretty great. ashley: that's a good thing to have. the dow off 162 points. david asman in for neil cavuto. take it away. >> we have breaking news on measles outbreak here in new york city. mayor bill blass last just declare taking drastic mechanic sure to stop 300 cases spreading any further. we will have more in the developing story in a moment. first a busy day on capitol hill. major hearings with big implications. irs commissioner facing new heat over the tax law and president's tax returns. steve mnuchin will testify before two committees while drugmakers are getting grilled over sky-high prices. social media execs are getting

slammed over hate speech. we'll dive into all these over two hours. welcome everybody, i'm david asman in for neil cavuto. first our top story, attorney general william barr testifying on the budget but being hit with questions on the mueller report. barr saying the report will be public in a week but also looking how the russia probe has been handled. listen. >> i am reviewing the conduct of the investigation and trying to get my arms around all the aspects of the counterintelligence investigation that was conducted during the summer of 2016 is. >> to former u.s. attorney for the southern distribute of florida, guy lewis. good to see you, mr. lewis. we got the summary of the mueller report. apparently that is not enough even though rod rosenstein worked with attorney general barr and rosenstein was overlooking everything that

mr. mueller was doing. so one would assume that they were in a good position to summarize the report, no? >> that is exactly right, david. and not just rod, who by the way, there is no love lost between rod rosenstein and the president. we know that for sure. but we do know that they sat down and it wasn't just bill barr and rod rosenstein backing some dark room, trying to go through this thing on an emergency basis. they had professionals. they had people from the deputy attorney general's office, from the attorney general's office, this thing has been gone through before. this report, has been gone through by the attorney general and his team. that was before he issued the four-page summary. and now they're doing it the right way. they are going through it carefully. they're crossing ts, and they're dotting is, doing exactly what they should be doing. >> they're doing color coded

redactions. i haven't heard of that before, have you? >> i haven't but it makes sense there are a number of different reasons. the law compels this. this isn't something that general barr is just coming up with willy-nilly. the law requires that grand jury material be redacted. the department's policy requires if there is, if there is information ban individual who you don't want to publicize, that person has a right to privacy, you remove it. there are sources and methods involve intelligence agencies. you remove it. they're doing what they are supposed to be doing. >> one of the complaints about the whole mueller investigation, it was started not as a criminal investigation but as an investigation, counterintelligence investigation. that was a very different animal. andrew mccarthy and others talked about that but so did attorney general barr today. let's take a listen, get your reaction. >> in extremely quick fashion

you turned a 300 plus page report into a four-page letter supposedly summarized the findings. >> i want to address a serious oversight matter, your unacceptable handling of special counsel robert mueller's report. >> reports have emerged recently, general, that members of the special counsel's team are frustrated at some level with the limited information included in your march 24th letter. >> i would love to talk to you about your 2020 budget but what is far more critical, as more far-reaching consequences to the credibility of our government is the prompt and full disclosure of the mueller report. >> no matter how they phrase it, guy, comes out as a fishing expedition, doesn't it? >> i think so for the most part. i'm not saying there shouldn't be transparency. there will be. everyone will get to see parts of this report that the law

allows the attorney general to reveal. but again, you have to understand that to me the major revelation today, so far, with what i have heard, that the attorney general is going to go back and investigate, look at, how this whole thing unfolded. neil: >> a lot of controversy there. we know the inspector general, ig deemed seriously some of the fbi agents. they're no longer with bureau. david: if anything good comes out of the way the fisa courts and whether unverified research should be allowed by the fisa court to spy on american citizens? >> i got to take, we, lawyers, especially with the doj and u.s.

attorney's office, we take our representations to a court and the fisa court including, they are sacrosanct. they have to be right on. if we mislead one way or the other, for or against, that is serious business and i think the attorney general understands that. david: would you agree there is never an excuse to use unverified material as the basis for a fisa warrant? >> i do. in fact, i've seen, whether it's a search warrant, affidavits, testimony under oath in trial or otherwise there is just, to me there is no place for that. it is always been a real, i have always had a real problem with that, david, in terms of that source of information. david: yeah, you don't have to be a civil libertarian to have problems with it. guy lewis, good to see you. appreciate it. >> likewise. david: any minute president trump meets with egyptian president, abdel fattah el-sisi.

the administration has its mind on the border. could tee up new action on immigration. blake burman with more. reporter: over here at the white house there is questions last couple days whether or not the president wants to move in the direction potentially separating children from their families at the southern border, he wants to move back that way. over here at the white house they're considering what is known as binary choice. take you back to last summer, august, 2018, the doj, actually the aclu came together on a suit which essentially set binary choice would be to whether or not leave children or try to reunite children with their parents, or, have children not be reunited with their parents because they maybe would be reunited with someone else in this country. it was believed by some that potentially could give the administration some legal cover

to then move into the direction maybe going back in the direction of allowing families to be separated at the border. bottom line with all of this, david, we're now hearing increased chatter indeed the white house could be moving in this direction. we'll hear from the president here shortly. up on capitol hill the president's newly-minted attorney general, bill bar you were talking about, was asked about whether or not believes in family separation. this is his response. >> all i can say i personally sitting here am not familiar with those discussions i support the president's policy which we'll not separate families. >> you will support we will not separate families anymore? >> yes. reporter: what we can tell you the white house considering at this point pursuing the binary choice. it is something that is under discussion here as this whole debate about family separation at the border presumes.

president el-sisi of egypt set to arrive at the white house momentarily. we believe to hear the president on camera. we hope to get is had thoughts, shortly, david, as his view about family separation at the border. david: we will go to the remarks as soon as we hear them. blake, thank you very much. appreciate it. former new mexico governor susana martinez who supports the president's call for a border wall. first on issue of family separation, sometimes you have to do things that are very uncomfortable that are awful but you have to. when a parent is incarcerated what do you do with the kids? do you lock them up with the parents? i don't think the obama administration wanted to do that but they did. i don't think the trump administration wanted to do that but sometimes they have to, no? >> yeah, that's the problem is, this country has become a magnet for people who are seeking

asylum when they're not really the ones that should be given asylum. people are coming and causing this crisis where there is a decision that has to be made whether we separate children from families. i do not support the separation or incarceration of children because parents made a bad choice and asylum doesn't apply to them. we need to make sure the families stay together. we release a child, are we releasing them to someone there is no time to properly vet that person, we're turning that child over to because the system is overwhelmed. david: by the way, how many times were you uncertain, you're governor of a border state, uncertain whether the child was actual child of the adults that the child came over with? >> that is my number one issue when which started to find sponsors in the united states. i was a prosecutor for 25 years on the border, for 25 years. when someone claimed they were a parent, prove it to me, give me dna so i see if you are related

to this child. otherwise we can't give these children to sponsor families the children are in more danger, used for sex trafficking, involved in criminal activity. that is what we cannot have. so i encouraged when i spoke to secretary nielsen a couple months ago are we doing a dna to prove that the person is in a truly a family member and that the child is in better situation than back in their country? david: what would you do, i know you support more walls built than now exist but besides that, what do you think the most important thing to do to stem the tide? >> we have to make sure to hold mexico accountable, with the president announcing he would close the borders or put tariffs on the economy and merchandise coming back and forth, one of the problems we cannot continue

with asylum laws. that is the inability of congress to do the people's work. if they're sitting hear in hearings and pointing fingers back and forth on number of multiple issues not in the interest of american people, they're letting people down. i insist congress he have this to have a debate, change the asylum laws and the immigration laws. otherwise it will continue to be this magnet. people from around the world will start coming. david: it doesn't have to be a wholesale new immigration system although that would be nice, but just tweaking things, forgive me, i don't want to give too much in the weeds but the flores decision which essentially limited the time that these people can be kept. otherwise they're let go, let loose in the united states, right? >> absolutely. i tell you, a number of people came back to court, actually had their asylum claims heard, we're doing an injustice to those who have real good asylum requests because the hundreds of thousands of people that are

within our country, they haven't to the, 90% of them don't have true asylum issues. however those that do, we're not having them in court. we're not listening to the cases for three years or more. that is an injustice to them as well. david: forgive me, governor, i just wanted to show our viewers what we are seeing now. that's the president. he is waiting for the president of egypt to arrive at the white house. you know, governor, your experience dealing with the border is so important. i mean you did it for eight years. you have a lot of details that most people in the country don't have about how to inspect asylum-seekers, et cetera as we're about to see the president of egypt. should there be a meeting between the president and border governors to work these things out? >> sure, absolutely. we have been on conference calls with secretary nielsen on many occasions regularly to make sure what we're experiencing. i sent the national guard to assist the border patrol i was governor. not to do the border patrol's

work but aid them making sure the machinery are working, the trucks are working. they can't enforce immigration laws but can insure boots on the ground that can enforce the laws are actually on the line to do what thee ned to do. they're overwhelmed. for congress to deny there is a crisis is to turn their backs on american people and those who truly have asylum claims. david: they can't ignore there is a crisis there. but they said as much they plame it on president trump. first they said there was no crisis when they couldn't ignore it anymore, okay it is a crisis but it is trump's fault. >> that is so juvenile for them to start fingerpointing once again on another issue, instead of accepting responsibility and doing what is their job to create laws, to change laws, tweak laws to make them effective. that is their job. get to work. david: by the way you are an american citizen of mexican

descent. what do you think the legal i immigrants in this country. david: i myself married a naturalized citizen i know something about it myself but what do you think most of people that did it legally about the situation at the border right now. >> i'm from el paso, texas. lived there for 23 years. then went to las cruces a border city, as prosecutor for 25. i have family, americans from mexican dissent, all i hear over and over again i did it the right way. i did it the legal way and everyone else who wants to come to the country should do the same. we're not saying we're not accepting people to come here as immigrants for the american dream. we want them to be here but follow the process so those seeking asylum that are really in need can be heard. those wanting to apply can do it in a proper way. instead we're focusing our resources on the security of our border and not our resources making sure people can come here legally as they should.

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david: measles health emergency was just declared in new york city. mayor bill de blasio saying there are almost 300 cases that have been linked to certain zip codes and it's spreading. listen. >> today we're declaring a public health emergency effective immediately. this will mandate vaccines for people living in the affected area. department of health will issue violations and fines to people who remain unvaccinateed. david: those fines could be as high as 1000 bucks but can the city mandate vaccines? attorney and fox news contributor emily campano joins us now. what do you think? >> absolutely. the constitutional power to compel vaccinations is sound, undeniable. early as 19 hundreds ruled in favor of state law compelling vaccinations. schools could require it. falls squarely within the police power of the state.

especially in declarations of public health emergencies such as the one we are in this city there is even broader latitude to apply. i want to.out for viewers where the issue lies here. all states propel vaccinations but the exemptions are literally the killers. up to about 17 states provide for non-medical exemptions. that is where there is such room for those robust outbreaks. california in 2014 had a huge measles outbreak. afterwards they limited non-medical exemptions. guess with happened? zero outbreaks, a huge spike in vaccinations. >> there is issue here with the rights of citizens to say i don't want my kids to have vaccinations. i grew up in an era, a lot of i had measles, a lot of my friend had measles. it can be a killer disease, a lot of people prefer to go the non-vaccine route because they are worried about the vaccine. >> world health organization

said vaccination hesitancy is one of the top 10 global health concerns. in the cost benefit analysis that governments undergo, states undergo they have to balance that kind of hesitation or philosophical conscientious objection to the public health requirements where the needs of survival kind of outweighs that. when you drill down, those that are the non-medical exemptions that kind of pose that gray area, especially in situations such as this will be balanced out. >> but the bottom line the city, the state does have the legal right to do this? >> 100%, yes. notice the federal government is largely silent on the issue, also why in the city there is larger state power as executed legislatively for mayor de blasio to apply here. david: great briefing, thank you very much, emily. good to see you. apple set for 10 straight sessions gains. gerri willis has the very latest from the new york stock exchange. over 200 a share.

>> no kidding. hey, david. you know this stock has not been in this range for nine years. it hasn't had this kind of performance a share price, currently sitting at 202. three months ago the sheriffs trading at 141. that is on january 3rd. the stock getting a nice boost this morning after wedbush raised the target price for 225, citing stable iphone demand in china after rocky few months in sales. wedbush expects tens of millions of iphones to be upgraded or replaced in the coming year in china after apple lowered price of iphones sold there. united shares are down after replacing 737 max jets with bigger planes, it is costing them money. ceo scott kirby telling employees in a letter said quote, we can't keep this up forever. american airlines cut unit revenue forecast this morning, citing the grounded fleet of 737 max planes. david, back to you.

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david: president trump meeting with egyptian president sees -- sissi right now. former mayor of shiloh, israel, david rubin joins us now. mayor, there is a lot of interesting developments in israel, particularly with regard to the golan heights. israel's claims have been accepted by the united states. there is rumor that that prime minister netanyahu would annex the west bank if reelected. does this all complicate relations with country like egypt which has been pretty friendly to israel considering

the history there? >> no, not necessarily. i would say publicly perhaps. in other words, in the arab world, when israel takes steps to strengthen itself, such as the golan heights, jerusalem, communities in judea, samaria, so-called west bank, the united states gives recognition to those steps, positive recognition, the arab world cannot come out and publicly say that it is okay. but there are certain countries in the middle east such as egypt and saudi arabia and bahrain, and united arab emirates, that already have pretty good relationships with israel. usually very quiet relationships. it is usually fairly subtle, but the relationship is there and they're not so concerned about these issues. david: of course you have a common enemy. that is iran, right?

>> owe, absolutely. the arab countries are much more concerned about iran than israel is. david: yeah. >> and you know, that israel is very concerned. david: yes. >> so, yes, yes, that is what has spurred the relationship but there is also a lot of trade going on behind the scenes. david: sure, wink, wink, nod, nod, a lot of agreements you don't necessarily see. prime minister benjamin netanyahu is not only facing a strong challenger in benny gantz for his re-election, he is facing a challenge to his leadership from corruption scandals. what do you put his chances? >> first of all, let's put the corruption scandal about six months ahead now, ahead of time because the it is not going to be dealt with for another six months. right now the public is looking at the ideology of the two sides. it is a division of right and

left. netanyahu may lose but also win. in other words, he is the head of the biggest right of center party. gantz is the head of the biggest left of center party. there are quite a few smaller parties but most of those smaller parties are on the right. after the election, after the election the president, which is ceremonial post, he will appoint one of those two men to form the governing coalition of the new government and it's based on who gets the most votes but it could also be based on who is the recommended by most parties. there are far more parties and bigger parties on the right of netanyahu than on the left of gantz. which means netanyahu is likely to win this election even if he loses. david: mayor, great to see you. best of luck in the election. thank you very much for coming

in. we have breaking news. president trump just saying the administration is not looking to bring back a policy of family separation. we're expecting comments on tape any moment. we'll bring them to you as soon as we receive them. meanwhile the eu is threatening to hit back after president trump's plan to put new tariffs on e imports. to fbn's deirdre bolton what is being hit possibly and why. >> this is a pretty long list, david and if you look, $11 billion, and our fabulous team made some screens so our viewers could fall. there are a lot of different kinds of cheeses. you will see them broken down, rockford, other kinds that people enjoy. this is bigger list. cheddar, we laugh, we go to the grocery, it does affect what we buy. it is also wine, ski suits, motorcycles, passenger

helicopters. so the list actually becomes pretty far-reaching. essentially the u.s. and the eu have been fighting for 14 years but who's counting at the wto, the world trade organization. each side accuses the other of illegally subsidizing their aircraft carriers. the u.s. some respects is launching the first strike against the eu, saying you are illegally subsidizing airbus, boeing's number one competitor. so here we go, we want to move this forward. the euro bloc has said, okay, but $11 billion is ridiculous. they didn't say ridiculous, but something like outsized or disproportionate. but they said we are ready to hit back. europe did not threaten equal dollar amount or euro amount, but they said, yeah, they're ready to strike back. as we know, this is all happening while we have a trade tiff with china. to put it in perspective, that is $360 billion worth of goods

that the u.s. and china imposed on each other. 11 billion, even if it goes up to 21, 22 billion, if europe matches us tit-for-tat, you can see it is relatively small. the president tweeted about this morning. the ec responded so this is on. david: europe is in a real slowdown and even though we do have the world trade organization behind us in terms of them admitting that they're giving airbus unfair advantage by subsidies you wonder how this is going to hit the european economy? >> i do think they're concerned about that because also at the same time we're trying to figure out some trade parameters with the 28 block region if you like. so i think this is unfortunate timing for those conversations too. you actually did have the french finance minister make the exact point that you just did, okay, listen we're not in the best position here. we really don't want a trade war. david: so what happens to those european countries? if in fact the tariffs do go in

place, how badly could they be hit? >> i think everyone is hoping that this can sort of be delayed or at least assuaged. this is really first steps. since we've been fighting about it for 14 years, we can fight for a few more i think is the hope. but, as you very well know from following europe, european markets as well, right now, germany, has negative rates, right? you're paying to, for the government to borrow money. david: deirdre, we're expecting in about a minute now comments from the president about his meeting with egypt. he will be talking about a lot of stuff. you've been following all these things for a long time. do you get the sense that the president now pause the mueller thing is over he has more time to spend on issues than he did before? it diddies track him, the mueller investigation from what he is doing. seems like he is doing a whole lot more now? >> i think he is doing a whole lot more, i think even his critics which is very telling do approve of his foreign policy

work. even the people who are first to criticize his tone, manner of expression, there are very few people who say he is not doing a good job on foreign policy. david: even on issues like the middle east which is a tough nut to crack? >> there is fighting there for thousands of years, right? he also obviously made some very polarizing calls as some people see it, that is to say moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. there have been lots of big moves. but also things that the u.s. promised to do for decades and not just followed through. david: here is the president. this happened moments ago. listen. [reporters shouting questions] >> if you're cleaning house at dhs what would you like to see? >> i never said i'm cleaning house. i don't know who came up with that expression. we have a lot of great people. we have a judge ruling that he

doesn't want people saying in mexico. who can figure that out. no one can believe decisions getting from the ninth circuit. it's a disgrace. we're fighting bad laws, bad things coming out of congress. you have democratic congress, you talk about obstruction, the greatest obstruction they have ever seen. all they can do to spend 20 minutes to fix this whole problem. we have the worst laws of anywhere in the country than anywhere in the world. whether catch-and-release or any one of them. coy sit here and name them, if you got rid of catch and release, chain migration, visa lottery, you have to fix the asylum situation. it is ridiculous. you have people coming in claiming asylum. they are reading exactly what the lawyer gives them. they have a piece of paper. read what that is, you're entitled to asylum. some of these people are not people you want in our country. so we're building a lot of wall. it is getting built. some of you saw that last week

when we went we had a great presentation of a new stretch but we're building a lot of law and we're very strong on the border but we're bucking a court system that never ever rules for us and we're bucking really bad things with congress, with the democrats in congress not willing to act. they want to have open borders which means they want to have crime, they want to have drugs pouring into our country. they do not want to act. we have to close up the borders. we're doing it, i could do it much faster if they would act. so it is a terrible thing. the democrats in congress what they're doing and the obstruction. they don't want to fix it. and we have to fix it. they want open borders. they want to have millions of people pouring into our country. they don't even want to know who they are. these are people coming into our country with criminal records. we have murderers coming in. we have drug lords coming in. we have gangs coming in. and we're stopping them. if we don't stop them, i.c.e. is

throwing them the hell out. we're getting them out. but our job could be so much easier. i think kevin is doing to do a fantastic job. he is acting. but i think he will do a fantastic job. we're not doing anything very big as far as, what we need, homeland security. that is exactly what we want. there is no better term, no better name. we want homeland security. that is what we're going to get. thank you all very much. [reporters shouting questions] >> thank you. thank you very much, everybody. >> thank you, guys. [people shouting] >> keep moving. let's go. keep positiving let's go. >> obama separated children by the way. just so you understand. president obama separated the children. those cages that were shown, i

think they were very inappropriate. they were built by president obama's administration, not by trump. president obama had child separation. take a look. the press knows it. you know it. we all know it. i didn't have, i'm the one that stopped it. president obama had child separation. now i'll tell you something, once you don't have it, that is why you see many more people coming. they're coming like it's a picnic. let's go to disneyland. president obama separated children. they had child separation. i was the one that changed it. okay. thank you very much. >> let's go. [reporters shouting questions] >> thank you very much. thank you. we're not looking to do that now. we're to the looking to do that now. thank you very much. reporter: you're not looking -- >> it brings a lot more people to the border. when you don't do it it brings a lot more people to the border. we're not looking to do it but president obama had the law.

we changed the law i think the press should accurately report it but of course they won't. thank you all very much. [reporters shouting questions] >> come on, press, let's go. >> thank you very much. >> press, let's go. thank you very much. >> great honor to be with the president. a great honor to be with your president. reporter: [inaudible]. do you support his efforts to stay in power -- david: okay, unfortunately we missed the last bit, president trump meeting with the president of egypt. president el-sisi. he had very good relations with the president of egypt. he had to field a lot of questions about immigration he was pleased to do so. you might have noticed he got very hot under the collar talking about separation of families, mentioned it happened during the obama administration. might be because nancy pelosi raised issue which turned out not to be true of trump administration putting children in cages, some of those photos that were shown that alleged to

be from the trump era were actually from the obama era. that particular obviously got under the skin of the president. but there are a lot of issues about exactly what changes are going to be done now with the asylum laws, what can be done without the approval or tweaking of congress of certain laws on the books. let's talk this over with charlie gasparino and pricewaterhousecoopers partner mitch rochelle. we brought you guys to talk about taxes and we will in a moment, but charlie, what do you think about the immigration kerfuffle? >> listen, we clearly -- you cannot have open borders and a welfare state. let's make this an economic argument. by the wasn't some lunatic right-winger said that, milton friedman, economist, not the guy raising the nazi flag, far from it. the our system is, it is unsustainable if you're going to bring many, many poor people to this country when we have a

dearth or declining amount of low-skilled jobs. the real question is, how do you prevent that from happening? i don't believe a wall by itself is the answer. i think anybody that is in business will tell you that mitt romney had pituite. i have no problem with building a wall. fences work. they work in israel. tougher to build in israel. david: look at san diego. >> tougher to build a wall along texas for a lot of geographic, ownership reasons. it is private property down there. but, but, if you have barriers plus e-verify you will effectively stop illegal immigration. david: by e-verify, something what do you mean. >> something roam any came up. you create a system, where you verify your status in the country and it is not that hard. david: let's switch to taxes. treasury secretary steve mnuchin facing questions over trump tax

returns. take a listen. >> first of all i want to acknowledge that we did receive the request and as i have said in the past when we received the request it would be reviewed by our legal department and it is our intent to follow the law and that is in the process of being reviewed. david: all that is interesting but what about your tax returns, my tax returns? there is debate whether taxpayers are getting shortchanged with the new tax law. mitch, perceptions aren't the same as reality here. i just did my taxes. for the first time in decades i have to pay money rather than getting a refund but my accountant said, hey, wait a minute, you're doing better in 2018 than 2017 just that you were paid up front. but the perceptions are important. >> look at new york metropolitan area you may be exception in, we can come back to that. the fact of the matter is most workers in this country paid less taxes throughout the year, now filing returns, by the way

the irs put out its information through march, only 65% of the returns are in. if you go back a couple weeks ago, the numbers are shifting around in terms of volume of refund versus not. let's wait until april 15th. that is in a week and wait until the adult the dust settles. >> real question in states like new york, california, new jersey, illinois to a certain extent -- >> massachusetts. >> massachusetts, virginia, there is a bunch of state has have high state and local taxes used to be able to deduct that here is what i don't know, my taxes are being done as we speak, but what i don't know we're getting screwed on that. you cannot deduct more than 10,000? >> 10,000. >> we're getting helped out a lot of us on changes to the alternative minimum tax where he lowered it, he lowered it dramatically? >> significant changes. >> significant changes to make your am t-bill nonexistent or a

lot less. i don't know how those things are equaling out. i'll tell you, the way those things equal out will determine a lot of things i think economically in these states. david: for americans, i just want to say tax policy center, which is a neutral organization, well-respected, said eight out of 10 americans will pay loss. >> that is true. a lot of those people didn't pay a lot of taxes to begin with. when we sort out the amt, versus lack of deduction on salt, we'll see what happens in states like new york. we may have a massive migration out of new york. david: already happening. >> even more. david: i don't know if we can withstand that. but we'll see. attack on business from a network that covers business. what another business panel tweeted out that has steve forbes hot under the collar. that is coming up at top of the hour. stay with us.

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david: new talk of tech rules. facebook and google execses facing questions over hate speech on their platforms but some republicans are sounding the alarm about where all this will lead. fbn's hillary vaughn on capitol hill with the very latest. hi, hillary. reporter: hey, david. up until today tech companies and lawmakers have been really at a standstill deciding how to

regulate content on their platforms but a crackdown could be on the way because chairman nadler of the house judiciary committee announcing he wants federal law enforcement agencies to take white nationalist hate groups as serious as terrorist threats. members of the committee telling facebook and google their platforms are being used as the worldwide messenger of hate, that they are responsible to stop it. also saying that they need to crack down on how quickly they're able to take down the content but those republicans and democrats on the committee spent a lot of time grilling each other pointing the finger at the other party what they say is a rise in hateful rhetoric online. >> how is youtube working to stop the spread of far right conspiracies? >> the president's rhetoric fans the flame with language whether intentional or not may embolden white supremacist movement. >> i worry about the true

purpose of this hear something is to suggest republicans are hateful or intolerant. i don't know why it is from the majority finds it so hard to condemn such hateful language. reporter: facebook public policy director neil potts say they not only ban white supremacists on the site and white national its and any separatists on their platform. >> white supremacists are not allowed on the platform under any circumstance. in fact we banned more than 200 white supremacist organizations under our dangerous organizations policy. last month we extended that policy to include a ban on all praise, support, of white nationalism and separatism. we don't and we won't always get it right but we improved significantly. reporter: google public policy director alex walden admitting it can be tricky to figure out how to regulate free speech but protect users from hate speech.

>> enforcement can also inadvertently silence voices using platform to make themselves heard on these important issues. often in this space we found content can sit in gray area that comes up against the lines. it may be offensive but does not violate youtubes policies against incitement of violence and hate speech. reporter: tomorrow the senate judiciary committee will have their own hearing with tech companies about censorship. david? david: across the globe, from the uk to canada call for major crackdowns. market watch editor jeremy owens says lawmakers are grandstanding instead of cracking down. first of all the head of google's free expression policy center who we just heard said we are a global platform, speaking of google and very difficult to define hate speech globally, what is hate speech in one country is not necessarily the same in another. i don't want to excuse them but

does she have a point? >> she does. the baseline for what is objectionable content changes from country to country, continent to continent even in the u.s. there are very different standards. this is hard thing to judge from a global perspective. that makes a very hard thing to do. when you have different countries passing different laws you have to deal, that makes it even more difficult. david: now clearly violent acts, live streaming of violent acts is very different from hate speech, from what is hate speech. it is clear. everybody agrees what a violent act is on camera and when it is live steamed it is even worse. is is there any way, might we have reached a point, particularly after new zealand where we get rid of live streaming on social media? >> i don't think we'll ever see ourselves get rid of live streaming. david: really? >> if facebook and twitter, youtube get rid of live streaming, new sites would allow it. same thing with the white nationalists.

facebook will do better job, they will go back to the other internet bulletin boards they use. if there is no regulation that says you can't do x, they will find a place to do x. those places will pop up, because they make money off of it. david: we do have videoconferences on phones. we can do that instead of live streaming. i'm just saying. >> right. technology is there. so if people want to use it in a certain way, companies will put that out, even a facebook, you tub get rid of it, other companies say, other companies have the technology, we do that and put it out there. david: isn't this just a excuse for pontificating at these hearings because it sounds like there is no clear answer? >> they're looking to bloviate, play to their base, whatever the basis, republican or democrat. we're letting europe really set the standard for regulation of our industry, a tech industry that we created as americans. we're allowing europe to take the lead on regulating it. david: jeremy owens, always a pleasure.

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david: welcome back, everybody. the cavuto coast to coast i'm david asman in for neil to the battle over the border president trump just saying the administration is not looking to bring back a policy family

separation despite signs that the white house could push for more hardline measures. the president also addressing recent changes in the department of homeland security, listen. president trump: i'm cleaning house, i don't know who came up with that especially since we have a lot of people there, we have bad laws, we have a judge that just ruled incredibly that he doesn't want people staying in mexico, figure that one out, nobody can believe these decisions we're getting from the ninth circuit it's a disgrace. david: former dhs special agent under bush 43 and obama, tim ballard on what to expect tim great to see you the president any administration, whether it be this president, or any other president, would be hamstrung by certain laws that need to be updated right? >> absolutely and here is the thing david. it's frustrating to me is we're not focusing on the children here. they're always the unintended consequence and we have these children being used as pawns

right now. there's been a 300% increase since 2017 in children, who are coming into this country, under our asylum laws, with people who are not their parents, 1,700 cases in the last 10 months, so and then we are not for separating children from their families but sometimes, oftentimes this separation is happening long before they get to the united states. they're being kidnapped long before. i worked on that border for 12 years i was a special agent undercover operator working trafficking cases on that border and i'm telling you what's happening with these laws in place, they have 20 days and these kids have to be released with their parent so these smugglers, traffickers know that , they're taking advantage of it and bringing children who aren't their children and then the u.s. government has no choice but to follow the law, the customs and border protection folks, great guys and gals on the border they have to return these kids to anyone basically claiming that i'm their parent you got to give the kid back to me. david: we did just have former

governor of new mexico, martinez on and she said, you can do a dna test that will establish directly whether or not this person is the parent or not, right? >> exactly, david. i've been working with rapid dna companies, in the last couple weeks to try to get them engaged because this is exactly what we have to do. we cannot release children to anyone showing up saying that i'm their mom, i'm their dad, but our laws are facilitating it our laws are completing potentially trafficking cases and the united states is the demand by the way for sex, for child sex, so we have to be especially careful as government officials on that border to protect these children. david: it's horrible what happens there and nothing is more important but i've got ask about one other change that this administration is trying to do. they're trying to regulate or change the way in which people are evaluated as to whether they have a skillset that would fit what we need here in the united states, particularly businesses, whether it's housing,

construction, skills or whatever is it possible that within the current legal structure, within the laws, you can change, you can make enough regulatory changes so you can move closer to the kind of immigration system based on merit, rather than anything else? >> absolutely it's all about the vetting process and our problem with our vetting process right now is we're requiring people to travel thousands of miles to get to see an asylum court, to get to see immigration officials. we should mobilize immigration judges, asylum courts, into our u.s. embassies and to every country especially in central america, where they can go right away, make their plea, get their case done, and processed, and then facilitate them coming into the united states legally and in a way that will benefit them and us. david: it makes sense and it's done elsewhere, done in canada, australia, the great effectiveness, great to see you thank you for coming in appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. david: meanwhile the white house is facing new legal backlash on its border moves a

federal judge blocking trump policy of sending asylum seekers to mexico, which could leave some states with overcrowded shelters. texas republican congressman brian babbin says we need to find a better solution. congressman we just heard the president complain about this new interpretation of law by court what do you think? >> i agree with the president. this is outrageous. it's another example of an activist judge, this one happened to be an obama-a appointed judge like many of them are interfering with the national security decisions of this president. it's absolutely outrageous that we have this situation. this is quite reasonable to ask these asylum seekers to wait in mexico before they are released into the country. we are overwhelmed as we've known for many many weeks here, 100,000 plus coming into really

on a monthly basis, well over 1 million by year's end. the taxpayers are being soaked. the american citizens are being put at risk, and these people have absolutely figured out if they can overwhelm our border, david, that they can come in indefinitely and stay in the united states. david: absolutely. >> it has to stop. david: well the word is out and as we talked before, the grapevine is very active throughout central america, that word gets out about what the ways in which to get in, the ways in which to stay, the ways to go around our laws but these judges aren't going to make it any easier. how soon before this decision gets up to the supreme court? >> well i'm hoping it'll be an expedited decision but still it's going to take who knows how long, maybe weeks if they're coming in and i'll tell you what a lot of people are not looking at here. we're talking about bringing i think you mentioned your previous guest may have

mentioned it, moving up to dallas to house some of these tens of thousands of people that are coming in illegally. this is moving inland now. it's coming into the great state of texas now, hundreds of miles from the border, and we cannot afford to see this happen. we're overwhelmed at absolutely has to stop and the department of homeland security, i think, should start to be run like a military branch. i think they ought to have a five-year plan, a budget, funding, have infrastructure, personnel, technology, this thing has to be we have to be prepared and i'm very sad that we were not able to secure this border when we had the majority in the house of representatives this past session, of course we didn't have this kind of a crisis going on, but it absolutely in excusable for the opposite side of the aisle to say this is not a problem and really, i think the truths out now. david: well i think the

democrats realize that not only is it a problem it's a crisis but now they're blaming the crisis on president trump but that's another political issue we don't need to get into here. congressman, best of luck to you i know you're a part of trying to find a solution to this mess, we hope you do so thanks a million. >> thank you, david. david: appreciate you coming in now to a budget hearing that turned into a mueller hearing, attorney general bill barr grill ed by democrats over when the report will be made public and ag barr is standing by his timeline, here is what he said. >> my original timetable of being able to release this by mid-april stands and so i think that from my standpoint, by within a week, i will be in a position to release the report to the public. david: ag barr also saying he's looking into how the russia probe has been handled.

listen to this. >> i am reviewing the conduct of the investigation, and trying to get my arms around all the aspects of the counter intelligence investigation that was conducted during the summer of 2016. david: host of liberty file on fox nation judge andrew napolitano is here so let's start with that because years and years ago when the fisa courts were first getting started you were warning they upon politicized and here you have a charge it's as yet still a charge but there's a lot of information backing it up that opposition research unverified opposition research was used as a foundation to spy on american citizens through the fisa courts don't we deserve to know if that happened? >> yes, we do. i was surprised but pleased to hear that he's going to look at this if the inspector general looks at it we'll get an academic report. david: and the ig report is not enough? >> no and the attorney general

looks at it that doesn't mean him that means fbi agents that means potential criminal charges or at least a full report of what happened. you know my problem with fisa. it has lowered the standard for issuing a search warrant. a generation of fbi agents has become seduced by this. go to fisa. they grant 99.97% of all search warrants you can't get one from a regular judge because you don't have probable cause? go to fisa. porch the so-called national security investigation into a criminal investigation nobody sees it happen and they can't get to look at the origins of it because everything fisa is secret. if he exposes fisa for the unconstitutional, if bill barr exposes fisa for the unconstitutional monstrous it it has become it'll be a profound good for liberal free society. david: let's talk about the mueller investigation and mr. barr's memo, four-page memo.

he was defending a lot of democrats were skeptical saying how could you do a four page memo on the basis of a 400 page report in a weekend and he said look this has been done over time. rod rosenstein who was with me when we put that memo together was over the shoulder of mr. mueller throughout the entire, throughout the duration of the investigation. that's why we would do it so quickly. >> i don't think "the four" pages is intended to be a summary. i think it's just in tended to highlight the two conclusions to which robert mueller came. one, he couldn't conclude and he led his boss to it which happens a lot, but let me add that i thought that his defense today of the laws that control him was very eloquent and very credible. david: he's a pro, right? >> yeah, so even though the democrats will not be satisfied with the dozens maybe hundreds of pages that are blacked out the law requires that. now if they want to see everything because they want to

second guess robert mueller and bill barr and only a federal judge can give them everything. he's the attorney general. he can't give them classified matters. he can't give them a investigation that's still going on, he can't give them what we call 6 e information, testimony about people that were not indicted. david: this is going to be four color codes to the redactions, what do you think of that very quickly? >> that will actually help us understand somewhat what's under there but it will never satisfy the judiciary committee. they are going for the jugular on this. david: absolutely, judge andrew napolitano, great to see you thank you very much well the measles crisis in new york city is spreading and now mayor bill deblasio is ordering mandatory vaccines for certain zip codes in williamsburg, fines could be as high as $1,000 for people who violate the order. listen. >> this is the epicenter of a measles outbreak that is very

very troubling, and must be dealt with immediately. this outbreak has been spreading there are almost 300 cases already, overwhelmingly in brooklyn, and to give you a sense of what troubling development this is, it's a huge spike, we saw only two cases in new york city in 2017. david: this announcement coming as rockland county, new york officials are still tackling with how to stop the spread of the measles there as well. dr. jennifer coddle on what needs to be done to curb this crisis. doctor, as i've said before, i had the measles, a lot of kids who grew up in my generation had measles. we survived. is it really necessary to have this mandatory vaccination? >> yes, it is. i absolutely think that it is and you're right. people born before 1963 when the measles vaccine was made available. david: i just dated myself go ahead.

>> it's okay it's all right you're in good company let me tell you but three to 4 million kids got the measles before the year of 1963. this is the thing about it . measles we tend to forget how dangerous it can be. yes it tends to cause high fever , rash, et cetera but for some cases children will get pneumonia or swelling of the spinal cord or the brain and they may get ear infections, diarrhea and actually out of every thousand cases of measles one to two children will die. we forget about this, and this is why no, i absolutely agree about mandatory vaccinations for some communities right now. david: do you have any concerns whatsoever with the effects of vaccinations? i mean, there are some serious concerns, by millions of americans about whether or not they're lasting negative effects to these vaccinations? >> i'm so glad you brought this up i'm a family doctor this is a conversation i have with my patients literally every day. i'm going to say it i'll say it clearly. vaccines do not cause autism.

the mmr vaccine has inappropriately and erroneously been attached to the concept of for which autism for a number of years. it is false. there have been a number of studies that have refuted this, the scientific community refuted this and there is no connection vaccines are safe and effective and we actually know that getting two doses of the mmr vaccine, is approximately 97 % effective, one dose is 93% effective. david: let me just jump in if i can because we're running out of time but some people say look back when there was mercury in some vaccines et cetera they were dangerous and there's truth to that i think, but the way in which they have advanced in making these vaccines has changed enormously over the years right? >> it has and that's a very very fair point and this is what i'd say you're right. vaccines have changed over the years and they are remarkably safe. some of the things that we thought happened back in the day is not necessarily what's happening right now. i do recommend people go to the

cdc.gov, there's a lot of factual information about what exactly is in vaccines and what is not. what's important is that we don't believe the hype and the myths but we deal infarcts and in fact vaccines do save lives. david: great to see you doctor thank you very much for being here appreciate it. >> thank you. david: meanwhile prescription drug prices keep rising but who is to blame steve forbes on whether drugmakers are giving capitalism a bad name and don't miss bulls & bears it's my show tonight at 5 p.m. eastern we break down all of today's headlines with very lively conversation. we'll be right back. makes it beautiful.

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david: a big deal with the mlb d oa, how the trump adminitration just ended major league baseballs deal with cuba. a big player on how owners are handling this, is coming up you don't want to miss that. meanwhile a day of hearings on capitol hill, the senate holding a hearing on rising drug prices. christina p has the very latest on this, hi christina. reporter: hi david we can all agree americans, consumers, lawmakers, even the pharmaceutical industry with the prescription drugs are too high but the big question is who is to blame for those high costs and today the focus is on the pharmaceutical benefit managers, the one that negotiates the

price of the drug you pay at the pharmaceutical counter, they have been the center of attention you've got the five major players right there and the focus started out with why aren't the negotiations that these pbms, as they're known, transparent and out in the open that was asked by a senator you had a response coming from dr. p lemming whose the president at healthcare services at humana listen to what he had to say about it. >> when they regress to the mean, will they want to demonstrate that one company has got a better deal than another company, because it's fully transparent? i don't know what that looks like but i'm not convinced that full transparency will allow the manufactures to negotiate as feverishly as they could otherwise. reporter: so there you have it one pbm, and all of the women agreed they didn't want to be fully transparent because that gives out secrets and the drug manufactures will have the upper hand when it comes to pricing,

and since we're speaking about drug prices, let's talk about how much americans are paying, just on this grass alone, you can see on an annualized basis this is per american how the cost of drugs have climbed exponentially just over the past few years, more specifically look at the 1960s drug prices, prescription drug prices were $60 and 2017, $1,025 that the most expensive in the world when it comes to prescription drugs and again that is adjusted for inflation, so there's a lot of back and forth in this hearing, overall the questions could have been a little bit more specific but you have senator grassley, chuck grassley who is the chairman of the finance committee, and he has said he is very positive and confident that they can come to a bipartisan drug pricing plan and legislation in the near future, the question is whose to blame for these high prices? david: right will we have ideas on that christina thank you very much and media chairman steve

forbes on whether drugmakers are giving capitalism a bad name. i would say steve first of all good to see you. >> good to be here, thank you. david: you look at the chart where the prices really begin to sky rocket. it seems to coinside with our introduction of prescription drug plan for medicare patients. maybe i'm just look at that in the early 2000s, that's when the prices really took off, when the government gets massively involved in something no matter what it is, we end up with massive problems. did that have anything to do with this? >> i think that's a good point because in the whole healthcare industry you don't have real free markets it's all third party and when that happens you get these crazy things you see the same thing in education. the more government-aided education the higher tuitions and costs go up. four times the rate of inflation the sticker price for college today, so you see the same thing here. so it's not capitalism, it's not free markets it's the lack of free markets and capitalism. one good thing about these

hearings i'm glad they are focusing on the middle man. what role do these benefit managers play today? they once had a good one at the beginning why they came into existence. what about today? what about foreign countries? governments forcing our companies to sell in these new prescription drugs at a low price with all this subtlety of tony soprano, give us a low price or we'll steal your patented drugs so the 2.6 billion that goes into creating a drug how about foreign buyer's share and the cost of creating these new drugs you do it through trade negotiations saying this is on the table. we want reciprocity. we don't want this tony soprano- approach you've taken in the past. make it an issue. david: interesting is somebody in the trump adminitration going to try to do this? they're not shy about using trade negotiations to get other things through. >> they know about it and i hope they come to the conclusion this is a worthy issue to put on the table and hammer the table about it'll save us money and

also sharing the costs mean there will be more money for more research and development in the future instead of just the american people. david: steve we don't often talk about cnbc tweets here at the fox business but there's a tweet that says "most millionaire ceo's are psychopath s and that prompted alexandria ocasio-cortez to say justifying psycho pathy is very 2019 so steve, are you a psychopath? >> well you've got thousands of americans that are psychopaths by that definition. what she's saying is success without permission from a socialistic like her is bad. they want to control everything, and so someone should ask her, that handheld you own, what created that? that was free markets. the nice clothes she wears, what created that, free markets. the nice cosmetics she wears, nice apartment she lives in, free markets, so how do you get that kind of creativity by having free people do things for other people meeting the needs and wants of other people and

everywhere you go around the world whether it's environmentalism, the worst cases of abuse, authoritarian or dictatorship governments where democracy exists, you get a reaction to bad things like that david: noshes been off the rails in my opinion for quite a while but here is a business channel that's going in this direction. what's up with that are they just trying to cod el up to the socialists? >> there must be, this is why they invented psychiatrists. there must be something in the air like how did you get the salem witch trials were there bad crops and people trying to blame things on them? so i don't know what the answer is but it is not rooted in fact at all. maybe it's our education system, not treating reason and factual argument with respect any more. david: the more i cover business the more i'm convinced that the free market democratic free market system is the best way to deal with just about any economic problem you have and if you want to screw something up hand it to the government. >> free markets always turn

scarcity into abundance. that i referred to you a few minutes ago early 1980s, first one for motorola, weighed like a brick, like a shoe box, 40 minute life, $3,995 and look at the price, the only thing they don't do is grow hair. maybe the 11 will do that. david: steve great to see you. the capitalist tool himself, mr. steve forbes, meanwhile forget about china are we set to see a trade war with europe? the latest reaction to escalat ing tariff threats right after this.

david: president trump re igniting trade war fears, threatening new tariffs on eu imports and now the eu is threatening to hit back to shawn o' hera on how serious this all could get so good to see you. first of all what this is about the wto has admitted that airbus gets these subsidies unfair to the united states therefore we're hitting them it comes at a

time when boeing, by the way, our main competitor, to airbus, is going through tough times with the 737 maxes. is this kind of a handout from the u.s. government to boeing? >> well, the timing of it certainly is a little bit peculiar given their troubles of late but i think this is a bigger picture from the president's perspective. he's been very aggressive on this whole topic of trying to get fair trade deals across the globe. i think his feelings are probably given the strength of the u.s. economy versus let's say europe as an example maybe this is the time where we have the upper hand so now it's time to push on things. david: any way other than tariffs that we could use to do that? >> i don't think so. i mean, you have to have a little bit of a hammer here in order to get people to move otherwise they wouldn't. this airbus dispute has been going on for 14 years and so i think that carries over three administrations, and so all of the jobs talking about trying to

get something done on this for 14 years has done nothing. the only way i think the president deals with it is carry through on his threats to impose tariffs to hit them economically and force them to make a change. david: so what happens to the european economy which it looks like they skidded around a recession for the moment but there's still kind of close to flatlining aren't they? this could send them into a recession, no? >> i think it possibly could. i think that the overall sentiment around the world is that all of our economies are slowing a little relative to where they are, but compared to other places i think we're in much better place in the united states than they are. david: well china, we're still in the midst of our discussions with china, our trade discussion with china. is there any way that that positive outcome with the china discussions could effect a positive outcome in our dealings with europe? >> i think so, and then to carry on, probably it has a carry on effect for the markets. we've got two kind of currents

going right now an under current of earnings expectations we're getting into earnings season and i'm sort of of the school that earnings will drive everything, earnings and valuation, but we get these daily news stories one-day we're close to getting a deal, the next day we're not and then the market goes up the day we're not, it goes down liked to , so i think we need to separate some of this noise from an investors perspective from the earnings picture and give where we are in the cycle i think it's time to start looking at higher quality companies that can sustain their earnings as opposed to just being a part of an overall group that is going to rise when the market rises. we favor free cash flow yield as an example as a way to measure the quality of a company because they should be better prepared if we do get a slowdown here. david: sean o' hara, great to see you. meanwhile president making changes to the obama-era cuba policy and could make it a lot harder for the mlb to sign cuban

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now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? david: new reaction coming out to the white house canceling an agreement that allows cuban baseball players to sign contracts with the major league baseball, to former miami marlins president, david sampson , so the idea, david schweikert that the administration does not want to be paying essentially bribe money to the communist government in cuba for getting cuban players. i can understand not wanting to enrich this almost a slave element to this, you know, we won't release an individual human being unless you give us $1 million or whatever it is. i can understand that policy but do you think it's the right one? >> no, i think what happened yesterday is a major step backwards. what the mlb deal actually was trying to address was human

trafficking. these cuban baseball players were getting on fast boats taking very dangerous trips, and some types not making it and being brought back and jailed or making it or having an issue like one of our old players jose fernandez who had to save his mother from drowning on one of these fast boats. what we're trying to do is control the human trafficking and what happened yesterday with the reversal of the policy means that now, cuban baseball players will have to resort back to what they had been doing, so i heard marco rubio tell me what he doesn't want to have happen. i need to hear him give me a solution to the trafficking issue that exists in major league baseball with cuban players. david: it's a terrific point. i understand that and i know that in fact peter guber, the part owner of the los angeles dodgers brought a wonderful player over from cuba, named pui g, now involved in the cincinnati reds but he had to pay, he's one of the people who

did it the old way as you were mentioning. he had to pay traffickers in mexico to get him across-the-boarder so you're going to have to pay somebody something but the question is, is there another way, is there a third way between the old way, what the president is now proposing, and is there a third way something in between? >> first let me say that i don't know that peter guber would want us to say that he paid to get puig to america. david: i think it was puig who did out of his own pocket but go ahead. >> that's the major thing is these cuban players end up having to pay these smugglers and traffickers who end up using violence and threats to continue to receive money from these players. my view is that the cuban situation should be the same as the japanese posting situation. we should have access to players major league baseball should who are qualified to come be major

league players after a certain age and a certain number of years playing in their country. the owners were going to pay the cuban baseball federation. marco rubio said that's part of the cuban government, so we are now basically giving money to the oppression. david: you don't dispute it is part of the cuban government do you? >> oh, no, not at all. what i'm saying is it is a great first step. we cannot wait any longer for cuba to be free. we've waited 50 years. let's see if we can start the process of getting people to understand what it is to be in a democracy where you have a chance to live, not under oppression, or not being known as the center where jail is a possibility. let these people come and play baseball as just a start to freedom and democracy. david: but i'm not hearing a third way from you. i'm not hearing because again, it is almost criminal, and it used to be criminal in the united states, to pay any money

to the cuban government and if in fact we are paying a bribe of a million or whatever it is to get a baseball player, a lot of americans have problems with that. >> yeah, it's not a bribe at all. it's part of a negotiated deal actually, where the owners would pay a percentage of money and we're not talking about the amount of money that certain other industries are certainly paying into cuba to have access to cuba and the beauty. david: i understand the whole world does that with cuba. the canadians et cetera but again what they do with the million dollars is probably not too bad in terms of the future of the livelihood of the cuban people who have to survive on next to nothing. >> and i agree and what you're doing is airspacing the view exactly as articulated by marco rubio here around the country and what i'm offering to you is i want the opportunity for the cuba players i want to be able as a baseball team to scout a player and sign a player and if i have to, pay a posting fee to

the team that owns him, the rights to him. i want to do it in cuba it's different. it's the government that owns the rights to the players, so i am willing to pay a fee to the owner of the player, which in this case, is the baseball federation which of course is part of the government. that is the third, fourth, fifth and first best option, because it's what happens in every other part of the world. david: it's a tough situation, will be so much better if they had a free government in cuba that's the bottom line. but we can't wait. you're exactly right but we've been hearing that for generation to generation. let's make some progress. let's not reverse the deal that we had where we know that human trafficking results. why do that? it makes no sense to me. david: hopefully, venezuela won't have any oil to send over to cuba and maybe that will bring down the end of the regime that's what i'm hoping for anyway david great to see you thank you very much for being here appreciate it. good luck this evening.

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david: we got new details on the college admission scandal just coming in, 16 parents linked to that case have now been charged in a second indictedment fox news correspondent, with the very latest from boston, hi, molly. >> hi david this st. big breaking news essentially, we're waiting to see what would happen by the end of the week among those parents of the 16 that have now been indicted, one of the most familiar faces of course, lori loughlin as well as the actress as well as her husband, and now this is what the u.s. attorney's office is releasing. they say the second superseding indictment also adds a charge to these defendants with conspiring to lander the bribes and other payments and further fraud funneling them through singer, the mastermind of this entire college admission scheme, funneling it through his purport ed charity, so essentially, they are charged with the initial charge that they were all collectively facing to begin with, in the initial charging document

conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and on a services mail fraud as well as one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering. so for a little more perspective on what this could potentially mean down the road if they are actually convicted of these charges. the charge of the money, the conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and on a services mail wire fraud a maximum service of 20 years as well as money laundering provides for a maximum sentence of 20 years. the big news yesterday was that 13 parents had decided to pleat and essentially reach plea agreements with the government and work towards in some cases some of the plea agreements talk about a much lesser sentence on the lower end of the spectrum for instance. now this of course far from a plea deal. this essentially means that these folks did not reach a plea deal with the government and they have actually been indicted fairly long list but the most recognizable names, certainly, of lori loughlin, the actress as well as her husband, and that's

essentially the big news, no word yet on when next court dates will be. we knew that some parents had already chosen not to plea and had been indicted. a doctor and his wife, so this shows us two paths that at this point as the scandal and the investigation continues to unfold that are being taken there are those that have been indicted and those that have reached plea deals and we'll see as this goes forward sentencings begin as early as june for some of those folks that have already plead guilty, for instance some of the coaches as well as the mastermind, and it'll be interesting to see what actually happens with the judge and how many people actually do go to prison when this is all said and done. david: twenty years or more? i mean, they could lay one charge on top of another and get more than 20 years it's extraordinary molly thank you very much good stuff breaking news. >> thank you. david: well radio host comedian joe piscopo says all of this is unfair that the parents should be punished well of course they should be good to see you. >> good to see you david how

you, man? david: but some people are beginning to get a little sympathetic. when you see people who you think you know because you've seen him, in movies or whatever, you have a little more sympathy or not but you don't. >> no, matter of fact, colleges would pay my parents for me not to apply. david: [laughter] >> i was such a bad student please. david: these kids let's be clear they weren't great student s that's why they paid the money. >> and if this is a form of and i always on my radio show about white privilege i'm so sick of hearing about that but when people look at this it is white privilege unless it comes to jussie smollett then it's celebrity privilege. david: celebrity privilege. let's not put a color on it. >> now when i'm in court and i was divorce court david asman did i get a break no? they slapped on me celebrity goodwill. you're a celebrity you made millions, you'll make millions more. your honor, i'm down. david: it's a different world. >> but if you're a celebrity

you walk into it and what's worse, when you're a politician i think you're scrutinized even further but this is unfair. i just got between you and i, it's like i got the bill from my daughter so the college, oh,, oh , i'll be working until i'm 107 in des moines, where am i, where am i, hi? david: well the bottom line it goes so much against what america was hoping. >> exactly. david: and not only do most of us struggle to pay the college tuition, these people they can pay a $500,000 bribe they don't worry about paying tuition. >> these kids, they didn't appreciate it at all. david: in some cases they actually photoshopped the heads of their kids on the heads of professional athletes or at least college athletes. it's extraordinary. >> [laughter] who looked at the picture and said this looks okay, this looks real. i mean -- david: here we go, i don't know put your face here. that's what it should say right? >> put my face on it, so i've got to say if you watch it, this

is a great guy. i never come in in and only when neil is here. david: i'm the only non-italian >> [laughter] david: usually my name is bad enough. we want to get into this little bit, because it's such a sequal to coming to america, that has just been announced eddie murphy and arsenio hall reprizing their roles after 31 years. first of all, where's he been? >> you know, having children and i've got some catching up to do he's my buddy with 10 beautiful children. david: ten, wow? >> i've got the five, you know me, i'm working on it but this is eddie murphy and again i'm a little, i can't be objective because i love him like a brother. he is the most not before or since has there been a more genius david: how is he to work with? >> because we were live like with no delay on saturday night

live back in the day and i was with this 19-year-old kid from long island. david: he wasn't a scene steal er or anything like that? >> no what a great question he and robin williams and all the grates even the late great jerry lewis, what a great observation to ask that question. they would step back, eddie would let me shine. i'd say what am i doing on camera? he would step back, go back and fourth and you are black and i am white. you are blind as a bat. oh! it's back and fourth, by the way you couldn't do half the sketch es today that we did back in the day. brilliant guy i'm so happy, and arsenio is one of the great talents of all-time. david: and james earl jones look at that. the master. >> it's going to be great and the only thing i'm disappointed about eddie lived in new jersey and now he's in l.a. and i miss my buddy i see him occasionally. david: do you ever think of coming back together, doing something together somewhere? >> yeah, sure. david: bring it here. >> we had a film that we wrote together and yes, as i think

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