there and my new puppy. have a terrific night, kennedy is next. i'll see you tomorrow. kennedy: buono trish. now president trump is blaming president obama for getting us into this mess. for starting some of the more controversial immigration policies, like child separation. >> president obama separated the children. those cages that were shown, i think they were very inappropriate. they were built by president obama's administration. not by trump. president obama had child separation. take a look. the presences it, you know it -- the press knows it, you know it we all know it i am the one that

stopped it, i tell, once you don't have it, that is why you see many more people coming they are coming like it is a picnic, because let's go to disneyland, president obama separated children, i changedded it. kennedy: i like disneyland. >> to be fair, president obama did not in fact separate children, but according to fact checfactcheck -- checkers, onlyr certain circumstances. president suggested that family separations are a deterrent. numbers support that claim that the crisis is getting worse. customs and border patrol reve reveal. problem is now what do you do about it? democrat and t president's crits

go ballistic if they go too easy, what should president do. joining me, cory lewindowski. >> thank you. kennedy: everyone seems to be in near universal agreement that child separations are bad. president suggesting that today, if such a horrific hol horrif hr policy from the obama era, why continue it? >> it was restarted under jeff sessions, then almost immediately stopped, as you said, this is a deterrents. we have a porous border, people are coming across in record numbers they know if they make it to america, they get a summons they disappear we don't know if that's we have 5 million

illegal immigrant or 10 millions. no one knows the real number, the goal is to step one foot in to the united states, regardless of the terror and chaos which it takes to get here, the deterrent this president said was, if we had to separate your children would you still do that, i think that give many people pause, nobody wants to see children separated from their parents, but more personally, we're a nation of lays you can come here legally, and we'll welcome you with open arms, but there has to be a process, just sending your child across bored ser not proper way. kennedy: we're a nation of laws in theory. the immigration laws as they stand are confusing. not only for people who would like to come here but also for people who have to enforce the laws, there is a great deal of chaos, and certainly

discrepancies in how the law are metered out, president has branded himself as a great negotiate are. in many ways that is true. and i think now would be the most appropriate time to use those great negotiating skills with congress. and come up with better laws. that can be equally meters out. >> we absolutely need a better wholistic approach to immigration. as a whole for our country. but we know that walls work, borders work, if you want to call it a wall, petition, barricade, whatever you want, it will stop people from coming in illegally, it works in every other country,ing in -- until we can control water that is coming in the boat we can't deal with the water in the boat, that is a bad analogy, by we not tries to deal with people who are here already. the first thing that president wants to do secure border, by

putting wall up, he has to use -- national emergency to do, that they are building the wall, once the wall is built, we have a sovereign nation, a sovereign border, then we can determine what the immigration policies are. kennedy: you realize there a big difference between physical barrier and the policies themselves. a physical barrier while it may be a metaphor for a strong immigration system, it does not necessarily mean that the immigration laws themselves are situated. -- >> our law are terrible, our immigration laws are terrible. kennedy: maybe we should direct more energy there. you are giving democrats so much leverage and so much ammunition to attack the president on just a few areas even if they

misrepresent the facts at times, it does not matter because they can easily win the argument because the whole thing has devolved into a big blob of emotionalism on both sides, you talk about holes and boats and waters, and conceivably we're singing, some people -- sinking, in people say not waters but kerosene it will catch on fire, and others says that goats -- the boats are bad and people deserve to rot in hell. >> the problem is congress failed for 30-years on dress it. republicans failed and democrat fail. kennedy: how does the president securitied here -- succeed here? >> first thing he has to do make sure we secure border, give the people who patrol the border every day, the tools they are asking for. to be successful.

which means, surveillance equipment, a physical barrier, dog, and helicopter, and more border agents that is first thing they are asking for, second thing to do is let's look at immigration laws at a whole, we penalize students who come here to study in our great institutions, finish first in their clarks we forc class, we k to their own country, because of our immigration laws, instead of putting our arms around them and embracing them. we let people come in to country deported 10 times and commit crimes, this is a broken system. kennedy: all of those things combined -- those mechanisms out number of people who are coming through various holes in the porous border, people over stay visa, here on student visas, but you make my point for me, we need to fix the immigration laws first.

and worry about the massive border and the barrier second. you could build a border wall, you could put 25 or 30 billion into it, it still might not work, you would still have the other problems that you just laid out. >> but kennedy, here is the problem, washington d.c. is a disfunctional broken place with a 3% approval rating, no one in washington wants to address this issue as a whole, congress does not want, to they will never get to done in a bipartisan nature. but when the president offers something, that was difficult for a lots of conservatives that was a path to citizenship, for all those people that are here illegally, the dreamers who came through no fault of their own, democrat say shrewdl absolutely. kennedy: you cory lewindowski are for amnesty. >> i am not.

i said that scared a loot of conservative like me, i did not love that idea. but i understood negotiation tool, but democrat didn't even want to equipment spot table to negotiate that. >> i agree with you. no one really wants to solve the problem. and they are doing such a disservice to the people in need, who are escaping from really bad places they claim to want to help, cory lewindowski thank you. >> thank you. kennedy: you are so welcome. president lashed out at democrats accusing them of helping to create the border crisis watch. >> democrats in congress not willing to act, they want to have open borders, they want crime, they want drugs pouring in, they don't want to act. we have to close up the borders, wire doing it -- we're doing it, but i could do it faster if that's would act. kennedy: some democrat refuse to admits -- there is a serious

problem on border, among home sobery torres small. she would go so far as say, i believe that there are real challenges on the border we have to work together to address them, thank you, dear. are democrats living in a delusional bubble or denying reality for political gain? let's meet the panel. emily, and matt welch. and talk show host, leslie marshall. welcome. >> hi. kennedy: do we have a crises. >> yes, we have a crisis. we had a decline in number of people coming in for a decade, now you saw numbers 36,000 are families, one thing i want to tell from your former home state of california, where i now live, what the government more of

california -- gavin newsom is doing, he said how do we stop the bleeding, why are they coming here, he has done on el salvador, that does not stop the problem, you need to see at root why are they -- >> jesus is coming look busy. going toggle el doe toggle -- et mean you are taking a true survey. >> this is huge problem, one thing like a wall is not going to help or fix it and neither go toggle -- to el salvador. have youy it say, when state of california is most affected why do they come here. what is happening. where does money go that woo give to el salvador. what would happen if we cut them off, i think this is a good first step.

step. >> my problem with this form of foreign aid you are giving a lot of money to essentially bad people who are sort of drug cartel whol -- legitimize themselves. you could go back further and look at drug war as a primary cause. >> foreign aid almost never really helps. it is a cool of control or ability to en fle flewence -- influence other people. best thing you could do is trade openly, that is op-e opposite of closing of border,. kennedy: should american companies open factories in places like el salvador. >> if that's want to?

absolutely. i think term are in worse that republican made under donald trump and reince priebus, let's punish american companies for opening factories abroad, no. rhondronald reagan and george wh said, back when mec me mexico ws poorer, they said best thing to do is openious border system for humans and trade, if they get richer, people' to come less, the thing that 866-921-adop thap has done wrong, he thinks we can force the problem away, make the beautiful door in wall smaller, the legal system is more cramp cramped. kennedy: that is the conclusion of this line of thinking. good people who want to work

should be allowed to come in work, but if you have this prohibition of humans murder rates double. >> we have -- it should be focused on the laws, right now we just spend time talking about why they are leaving central america. why are they coming to united states, why are they in so many cases turning themselves in at border rather than sneaking across the river in dead of night, they know the way our laws work there is a lot of easy ways to circumvent the way we want them to work, real conversation should be how do we clean up our immigration laws to prevent these pro problems from happening. should focus be on the laws, 100%. kennedy: i agree.

cory said himself, if you have visa over stays, and you have students who are staying here other people get in on airplanes, not necessarily digging through tunnels, you have to figure out who you are letting in, and how many more people you can have who are not straining entitlement and whatever other government out reach programs that you know take away from americans. >> that's at majority of hung undocumented workers here could they over stay their visas, we have -- kennedy: in sweden they say wicircumstance as. w-- >>ing with bar william barr ture table.

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kennedy: how do you gain the trust back at doj and fbi when you have mueller probe, you have top people at fbi who have opinion fired and turned very political. and a former cia director who became hyper political, but also his best impression. >> you have to do what barr is going to do. today was great, that is instructive of what it the look like once the report hits. you have members of congress trying to to some grand standing, poke and prod at bill barr, he is an old pro, he knows what he is doing, he's process,

and he knows the law. kennedy: was he wrong to release 4 page summary. >> i think if anything the process dragged on long, i agree with andy mccarthy, it has probably been clear for last 12 months there was no russia collusion, but country had to go through this time of this possibility that president was a trader, as we know a they'd as much on tv, this cloud needed to be lifted, as much as they make noise about the report, he barr established about what the redactions will be based on, mueller will help with the de-- redaction. so, they will have little room to run with in terms of saying the blacked outline, this is where secret message is from putin to trump was.

kennedy: that is what they are looking for, they believe some grand jury testimony and innocent third parties, whose information will be backed out, somehow within those lines, like by way can i say something, i would love for rachel ma -- on get the president's tax returns on tv again. >> a page a night that would help her ratings. kennedy: how do you fi fisa. we have a system with little over site. we don't know much about process, all of a sudden we know that there were many pen registered used. dubious people signing off. how do you fix that process. >> first step is tran persony, yes -- transpersonality, yes lib ta-- libertarians like yourself

had feel like you should take a little bow here. in post 9/11 world assumption is no one will abuse fisa. there no way. kennedy: this is what i said, what happens when the potential president becomes the bad guy. you really don't have any evidence for that, and everyone knows you don't. you just don't like him, you don't like his language or his personal past. and therefore you have on undermine? the election. >> counter intelligence probe. based on a lack of an actual crime by the way, which you are not supposed to do, you are supposed on investigate a specified crime. there has been a lot of flism -- flimsy jus justification of the

abuse of fisa system. if previous regime can spy on the incoming regime, we have an issue. kennedy: even when they think that incoming rejee regime is oe cherry picked. buck sexton. >> pro beard keeps you warm in spring. >> coming up john kerry -- a man who is smart as a sack of hammers, he jumped on a bandwagon of washed up liberals who are kissing alexandria ocasio-cortez's green my ring, live, next. ♪

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state, current blow hard, john kerry within to capitol hill with his favorite new band, straw men at work. he gave alexandria ocasio-cortez all credit in world for her world ending hysteria. >> do have you a plan to deal with climate change? i think you said, you are not sure of the science. but my, my, my, my focus on how we move forward, and you know, we have differences, one piece of legislation or another. but in proposing what she has proposed with senator markey, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez is offered more leadership in one day or in one week than president trump has in his lifetime on this subject. kennedy: oh, excuse me well i vomit into my bamboo satchel mr. secretary. green new deal is about as sincere as john kerry's service

in vietnam, is everyone so hung up on planet and worried about we only have 12 years to live talking point, then why do we waste fres precious resources to federal -- does no not absolving people of any personal responsibility, detract from the necessary focus of herry -- saving the world? people saw the price tag for green new deal, and then thattal drew -- altruistic bravery. nothing will throw brakes on's run away train faster than tackling too much with so little thought, that is imture -- immature impractical narcissism

further e inflaming modness does nothing to help the climate change, force government dependency diverts money from saving the world so either liberal don't believe their 12 years pocky cock or they are so dumb and irresponsible they should not be tasked with saving a movie seat for a friend, let alone the planet. that is the memo. a slew of 2020 candidates, have embraced the 12 year deadline, but does actual science back it up. welcome thomas massey. >> i did ask john kerry, we

should not question your credentials, you have a se sciee degree. he said i have a bachelor of art, i said says science. i thought it was appropriate someone with a pseudoscience degree was in front of congress supporting pseudoscience today. we asked him how are you paying for this? his answer today, was well we'll tax the 1%. that he is parts of that 1%. y proposed a carbon tax. what his bill would be, you know sehe owns several mansions and a private jet, i don't think you could find a their politician

with a larger footprint than al gore, but john kerry did, scientifically he is illiterate, to have him as -- on global change was an embarrassment. kennedy: we need to kee bourbon business alive. >> kennedy, nobody likes to pay their power bill, 12 years ago, i told power company to take a hike, i went off the grid. i have made all my own electricity for 12 years, i can teltell you, i made sacrifices t public is not willing to make yet. and the power that cost me 2 to 3 times as much to make it myself, for me it is worth to push that out and down on people who can't afford it not fair to

ration electricity which is what is ghoain going to happen, you l have blackouts and whatnot, at our house we have to turn off the air-conditioner because batteries are getting low, i don't think that is what american public wants or liberal want $92 very few people who could live that life. ed begley jr. had a reality show. a plate personal investment but, the people who are leading charge are a bunch of rich hypocrites they don't live like that. alexandria ocasio-cortez takes a plane to new york city instead -- because she has needs. >> 91 sponsors i think of green new deal, very, very, very few have any solar panels. on their houses, none of them rely on anything but fossil

fuels at night to power their house, it is hypocritical of them, they should try living with 100% green energy before they force it on the american public. kennedy: yeah, it is coersion. force. and it will be very interesting to see what happens during the democratic presidential primaries, because i really think they will start cannibalizing each other on some of these issues. and you know john kerry thought it was a lity bloody today that issue nothing compared to what is coming up. >> a life fest in the -- lovest in in democrat primary, there will be no scientific facts, i tried to bring some -- >> that was great, i hope peop people. check out your back and forth with secretary kerry. >> he said these 5 350.

average is over a thousand parts per million, he said 350 is dangerous. right 467 for 300 million yearse lived with over a thought parts per million. we're at dangerously low levels of co2, it plant food. people today were photo sinc -- denears. kennedy: why to they hate plants so much. >> i asked him the effect on crop production for maker. he did not want to anker t answt has gone up because we have more c02. kennedy: did he throw his medals at you? >> he said sea levels are rising

faster on the east coast. they are raising faster, than west coast, how does that happen? kennedy: the earth is flat. thank you. trish: thank you. kennedy: young people are driving socialism resurgences. more than half of 18 to 29-year-old have a positive view of socialism, but 45% have a positive view of floo glorious capitalism, panel is back. emily, matt and leslie. emily since you are a certified millennial, what is it? hey have all been led to believe that this false narrative in

college. >> i think that is part of it, this jef -- generation has goneo college in larger numbers than we've seen before. they are going through the reeducation camps. less of a sinking interest in socialism than it is a decentrallincentrallation. we grew up between 9/11 and the recession, you could see there is interest in comfort o running away from rugged individualism. >> we're a weak generation. kennedy: that is a bummer about not great. kennedy: no one has a pocket knife any more. >> toy. kennedy: you do. that is why you are on the show. >> i don't want to know how many knives are if your bag, your brother is here.

21 century sucked. not been good. bring up between 9/11 and the recession that is it. we had freakit out in government over those, they made is worse. we're in year 10 of an economic expansion, to people feel great, they don't. kennedy: too much government. >> people are lungeing for politics that feel extreme. let's just do a big thing and let's brexit something. that is what it feels like on right, on left let's do socialism, they have been warning us about it forever let's do it. kennedy: let's be norway. >> we just want a big stick we don't feel good. kennedy: 90s were so much

better. >> i don't agree with you. sorry. i am not a millennial, my 11-year-old got tsa take his pocket brie knife last week. when you look at other countries, people saying, hey, wait be they have free health care, they have free college, why don't we. >> if you look at survey, they ask to you like socialism or capitalism, and do the people really know what it means, they hear buzzwords. kennedy: proes frommives always changes socialism, -- progressives are always changes it. >> i think that republicans change it too. social security, medicare, they partake of, is our two socialistic programs. when you have aocand bernie

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