bringing all of you the reportings, the facts and the truth, keep your questions coming we'll keep talking. i'll see i tomorrow. >> allegation from nation's top law man attorney general barr telling lawmakers he thinks that trump campaign of spied upon. was it justified is the question? if not, will he launch a proper investigation? bombshell revelation on day two of barr's testimony on capitol hill. lawmaker peppered him with questions on obstruction and release of the mueller report. main event, un-american claim that feds spied on a political party, possibly in an effort to undermine a candidate they did not like, in this case, donald trump. >> i think spying on a mittal pl

campaign a big deal. >> you are not suggesting though that spying occurred? >> well. i guess -- i think there spying did occur, yes, i think spying did occur, i. kennedy: mercy. >> is no way to is over state the significant of that testimony, not lost on preside president. >> i knew how illegal it was. hopefully attorney general, he is doing a great job, getting started on going back to the origins of where this all started, this was an illegal

witch-hunt, and everyone knew it, they knew it too. they got caught. and what they did was treason. terrible. what they did was against our conspewing anconstitution and ee stand for. kennedy: now what. according to attorney general an investigation is possible. some g.o.p. lawmakers' to take it a step further. >> i have always said we need a special counsel. in my view. i am pleased they could look at whether a counter intelligent investigation of trump campaign of legitimate or a backdoor attempt to get into the trump campaign. i am very pleased he will look at that. kennedy: bit of a wind tunnel

there. nancy pelosi said, i don't trust barr, and house majority leader hoyer does not think that barr is acting in the best interest of was nation? do we need another special counsel? here with me now. robert -- welcome to the show congressman. >> thank you. kennedy: barr wassi explosions - explicit talking about spying, what do you make of his testimony, what to we do now? >> we learned yesterday, as you know attorney general was before subcommittee that i am ranking member of on house side, we have learned that attorney general is looking into this making sure it was done appropriately, i raised question yesterday that all predicated on manage that was

questionable. attorney general replied he was looking into it. trying to fb find out and they e investigating. kennedy: this sort of shrouded power that exists the fbi and cia is too tempting for people to use, maybe some of those people, should not be trusted with sort of surveillances power. i think that is what we're learning from this. >> that is why the fisa law of set in place in late 70s soy would not have an fbi agent who just wanted to do some kind of a investigation on someone. you have to go before a court. these judges are to look at all evidence, key thing. not just a hunch or a suspicion

you have, but it has to be -- you have real evidence that something is going on. kennedy: the problem is we don't know what evidence is, we're not allowed to see fisa warrant applications. i know you spoke with carter page yesterday, i spoke with him last week. >> are you investigating who leaked the existence. >> i have the seen referrals yet from congressman nunes. but, if there is a predicate for an investigation it will be conducted. kennedy: so, was -- is there a predicate for an investigation? do you trust the attorney general to undertake that? he has done this job before. he knows how to put a team together, to look into some of

these questions. dow trust that or do you think we need to go to special counsel? >> let's let it start here, i think it is appropriate to let the attorney general to look into it. it may lead to a special investigation. but, i think what is clearly the fact is that you know. this was all premised on the still dossier, and -- steel dossier, we know it was some information that was giving to the fbi that was questionable. and so there a lot of questions that need to be answered here. and i don't think we want rogue fbi 18 agents -- >> you are now the just talking rogue fbi directors but deputy director of fbi and deputy director himself. >> the fbi director was in there last week. i have full confidence in him. he did a very good job in

testifying before our committee. i am saying, in general, you don't want a rogue fbi agent that would come before the just open an investigation. on a presidentia president -- ea presidential candidate. kennedy: it looks like that is what happened, appears to have been aided by several other people higher than him, that appears to be peter strzok. there has to be accountability, democrats want, that they don't want the same forces in play. >> a good point. kennedy: never okay, i am shocked that your democrat colleagues don't understand that. >> it is -- i it could come on shoe could be on the other foot next time, what is important to make sure that there was verified information and a lot of us right now think that is it height have been missing -- might have been missing in this case. kennedy: thank you very much.

>> thank you. kennedy, of course, democrat still streaming from the raptors for full release of the unredactable report, claiming that secrecy will add to speculation of a cover-up, today attorney general told them to just be patient. >> i'm landing the plane right now. you know i've been willing to discuss my letters and process going forward. but the reports will be out next week, i'm not getting into details of the process until the plane is on the ground. kennedy: truthing told, land it, i want to see the full thing. now or a week or whatever, it not going on change the fact that are tucked within that report. how is this process worked in the past, how does that guide us now. former georgia rin -- congressmn bob barr, there no relation

between he and attorney general. >> welcome. >> i was enjoying listening to your exchange with my former colleague. >> what strikes you most about differences between the starr report and mueller report, how the information was accessed and i did system nated -- disseminated. >> the environment is different, which is is taking place. back then, there were democrats did not like what judge starr did, and investigating and they found great fall wit fault witht now it is at a point why nothing that attorney general barr says or does will satisfy the democrats, if he came upside here is the report, have at it. they would look at it, they would still believe there something missing, if they ask mr. attorney general do you believe there was spying going on, he said i don't know, i have

not look at this, i can't say, they would say why not, what are you hiding this a no-win situation. >> you point out that all democrats want to see went that report, they don't' redactions they want to look for everyins y possible instance of impeachable offenses. >> i think the they will not be satisfied with whatever is in the report. i concur in what attorney general is saying he is under a legal obligation to be very careful about what he releases publicly. simply because a member of congress is a member of congress, does not mean that he can give them access to very sensitive sorts an sours -- sous and methods of intelligent

information, they are not getting every word of it, hey ty should not. all that was very different with the starr report, we didn't touch at that time on national security information, there were not sources in methods involved. but interesting aspect of the ken starr report is that fact that the all of back ground material all of the additional evidence that shows a pattern and prior incidence of wrong dog doing by president clinton was never made public. it is still not public today, and yet democrats are not calling for transparency there. kennedy: i would have liked to see the unredacted parts the starr report. i think we have we have a entit their in ter terms of presidentu

have any regrets about a that president clinton's impeachment sort of unraveled in. >> i regret that i have, when i and a few others, first started looking into who impeachable offenses occurred it was long before the name monica lewinsky surfaced there in high mind my e was serious violation of the law taken by clinton/gore campaign and then clinton/gore. >> can you tell us? >> money from china that came to the campaign in to white house, we believe, in return for decisions by clinton administration to loosen export licenses for certain technology. kennedy: satellite technology? >> we could it was satellite

guidance systems. kennedy: i remember that. >> and -- >> surprised that of not a bigger store back then. >> the reports did not want to go into it, we could not convince the republican leadership they were important matters. >> that sematters. >> that is more importance, i agree that is much more, that is a greater threat to the country than ruins life of this girl that intern who got wrapped up in trying to see deucing to see- seduce the most powerful man in the world, and i hope a lot of feminist who destroyed her representation feel regret. >> well, i would hope that some consistency would be seen and how democrats behave now aopposed to then, but we'll be be waiting a been time before that hope is realized.

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kennedy: president trump made a fundraising trip to san antonio, texas, discusses the grim conditions for americans who live along the southern border, and -- >> told never to leave their house at night. during the day carry a gun and know how to use it. kennedy: that is right. he invited skeptical democrats to come down and investigate for themselve, house speaker nancy pelosi said, it does not matter what is going on down there. >> what shapin -- happenings border. so contrary to our country. they are in a downward spiral of indecency. kennedy: so indecent! custom and

border patrol agent reportedly apprehend 92 thousand border crossers in march. president said he will stop at nothing needed. is president right to be clamping down? or are his ideas more outdated then beta max and nancy pelosi's living room? battling it out, ned ryan. fox news contributor. richard fowler. welcome. >> hey happy wednesday. >> to you as well, hump day continues. >> right. kennedy: richard, i ask you, nancy pelosi said donald trump is indecent and his indecent plans and proposal cause less dessency at border, what causing people to cross border and be apprehended. >> a couple then wrong with president's plan, president has

his state department initiated cut to foreign aid to 3 country where they are coming from. kennedy: i don't have a problem with that. >> el salvador, hondurus and nicaragua. kennedy: that is okay. they don't care about the people. >> it's not about that. kennedy, of course, it is. why do you give aid then, go ahead. >> to help folks. kennedy: you are talking about same subject. and same language. >> mothers and father pack up. kennedy: the krup corrupt regims don't care. >> e-- >> why do we give them dollars. >> if that is true that is more reason there is a humanitarian crises. >> don't give bad guys good money and hope it works out, that is naive. >> throwing good money at a broken system. kennedy: go ahead. >> this is not going to fix anything. i am thinking, you said 92,000,

i thought it was 103,000 in march, thing that is staggering this situation is not getting better, we're not all of a gone to see mexico or guatemala or hondurus somehow get better. a staggering figure, congressman andy bi biggs. where are the other going. kennedy: problem is if you close legal ports of entry and make it more difficult, you force people to more remote areas of border, that is when people die trying to get to this country. that -- humanitarian crisis. >> border wall does not solve a problem, here is the real problem 90% of folks who come in illegally come in via visa over

stays, president has not once mentioned that. kennedy: he has, not true. >> harp on this wall. >> i agree richard. does not have a come hennive plan. >> know, richard. neither does nancy pelosi, last i checked nancy pelosi is speaker of house. >> she is not president of united states. >> she refused to play along -- >> who makes the laws? >> right. >> richard, high woul he would e than happy to make the law, but -- i -- >> quick. >> hold on. kennedy: let ned finish. >> we have to fix the streets visa problem and the e-verify, yes our immigration is so broken not sure you could call 'an up

immigration system. >> last time i remember the president of united states that created a frivolous merge emergn the border. kennedy: you said a real solution. >> a couple year ago democrat and republicans came together, they put together a comprehensive immigration reform plan, do you know who was in way of that plan? kennedy: president obama. >> republicans. >> no, they had a problem with amnesty, you have to be adults and take it one thing at a time, rank that democrat are not willing to rank, that they are not. >> but is problem with 11 million folks that live in shadows. wake up we'll wake up one morning and deport them. >> we're not going to deport them all, no, no, hold on.

>> are a lot of republican like myself realize there has to be a situation where we 56 fix this, say we understand 1112 million here, we'll fix this so it does not happen again, i understand -- >> million here? >> i think -- >> let them all live at your house, richard. >> there you go. >> thank you. >> kennedy: coming up, bernie sanders introduced an out dated -- updated version of medicare for all, it's really stupid. how do you fix the heel health u keep the government out of it, the memo is next. all before lunch, which we caught last saturday. we earn our scars. we wear our work ethic.

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kennedy: well bernie at it against with medicare for all, and ridiculously expensive socialivic healthcare system tht is guaranteed to sink our

economy. but who cares, because healthcare is a right. many of presidential issue democrat dumb-dumbs signed on to medicare for all it makes theme seem empathetic to endorse a pie in the sky malarkey. they know it will never pass. warren said they are looking at lowest cost rai way so everyones covered, by what in bedbugs? here are 4 questions these thick dowellolts need to answer, whatl medicare for all cost, how will you pay for it what are you willing to cut, what how do you

plan on transitioning from a private to public system. they have no answers for any of that, there will be no more private health insurance is bernie and kamala have their way, all those unlucky suckers at blue shield will be out of work. you know what can key with expect with medicare for all, higher taxes, longer wait times and worst care, than canada where they don't have a public option for dental, vision or rehab, average wait time for a specialist is 5 months extinguish grea great great brin thousands of elderly brits go blind while waiting for cataract surgery. this cruel shell game does not

offer a safety net, this a smothers blanket, good job bernie, socialist yoda will probably out live us all. he does draw the line somewhere, plastic surgery? >> still exist. >> if you want cosmetic surgery, we cover health care needs if you want to make yourself look a more beautiful, work on your eyes and ears. >> so basically blue cross would be reduced to nose jobs? >> something like that. kennedy: it will happen here? we ask our panel from greg gut gutfeld show kat is here and

peter suderman, computer man. let's talk about bernie's plan. bernie is making all of these claims, somehow medicare for all will cover everybody, like netherlands and australia and canada and great britain don't cover, but no plan to cover the bill. >> bernie sanders is offering a plan more com comprehensive thay other single payer system, we says we should be able to do it because other country do it, what he is proposing goes beyond that also far beyond what today's medicare because,y when said medicare for all it would eliminate medicare as we know it, with private insurance. so i think bernie sanders plan is politically impossible and

impossible for a practical policy perspective. kennedy: you can't implement it. >> there is no way to get it, he has no answers to crucial questions. >> that is a good point, wha shn who was a cosponsor said there is no way i can't back this. >> he wants to do their in 4 years. remember, exchanges within on-line they did not work for months and obama had to order a special government i-t squad to broke all rules to get it working again. kennedy: one of many reason that obamacare sucked. but bernie, not only a fantasy plan, he also being a little disengine wise with some of his facts. >> here. here is a talking point. koch brothers, funded his study that medicare would safe two trillion over 10 years.

the koch brothers they donated money to the center, at george mason university, they had nothing to do with this study. kennedy: the economist there said this is a very conservativ estimate. it would 3 triltio trillion a y, hospitals and doctors have to whicconservative let's take a ly cut, why would they want to do that? >> there is no way they talk about increasing marginal tax rate on though earning more than 10 million a way, and the ways of funding it he keeps adding to what medicare for all might cover, it makes it impossible to really score it. >> i think it very unfair that nose jobs are not included. if you can't get a free nose

job, what kind of country is this, third world? no, aocking come out wit, will a plan that does include nose jobs for all. >> mandatory nose jobs. >> human right. >> people get health insurance and healthcare confused, we talk about them as if they are the same, you can have hair harry he without health insurance. great thing about this system, we have this private option, i think that government needs to be less involved, when the government is not involved it gets cheaper. kennedy: it is when government inserted itself in this system is when it created this imbalance of more government will never fully fix. >> well, president trump campaign on draining swamp, saying, he will cut so much your head will spin.

washington host hospitals today that administration is now aiming did dismans -- dismantle office of personnel management. they are responsible for managing federal civilian workforce. it would be the biggest agent to be slashed since worl world wari i. >> i am all for cutting federal against, but this does not get us far, opmis a 2 billion dollar agents, we have a 4 tril condollar budget, not even a percentage point. ing in they are not talking about firing all of the 5,000 or so workers who work for opm.

well we'll reasign them to other things. >> not fill vacancies, and people will retire. >> it will are a somewhat staff reduction, but this is a drop in the buck i bucket. >> >> hallelujah. >> witnes once you have ration n the cat, you can't unhave relations can the cat. >> that is true. kennedy: that is what my grandmother told me. >> maybe like eat a turkey sandwich. like the rest of the world. and i think we could let market

decide what is and not acceptable to say on tv. kennedy: toe stossel said for y, we should get rid of department of education, and department of commerce. >> most of functions of ftc.c. kennedy: my mom could do them. >> department where i am not allowed to say my favorite words on tv. >> i am here, hello. >> hello. >> they are great ideas but he will need congress to do it. to funding, scope of responsibility, he will need congress. kennedy: he needs more libertarians in congress. >> more hagel people making law -- more rational people making laws who don't care if they are ever reelected again and know how to trim. >> you need to change how made up and vote to get it gone. kennedy: i'll give you votes i'm take emfrom where every, twice.

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tell nicholas maduro his time is up, time for him to go. kennedy: that is right, get out, the problem that maduro regime has backing of china and russia. ambassador saying that u.s. made up crises in venezuela. so will trump administration -- what will they do if maduro does not listen? here to discuss it iraq combat veveteran and host brien suits t back. >> hey now. kennedy: right. russia seep seeps more dug -- ss more dug in than last time. >> and like i said last time, you add in mix of chinese on the ground. what cuba, russia and china are

saying to united states, have you been interfering with us -- in their vie view. now we're in your hemisphere and we're not leaving because ma mao is not leaving, i have to say, bull has escaped and barn door is closed or metaphor is rolling down the hill, i think it done, maduro is president, u.n. is not going to do what pence asked way out, the train left the station, and i am out of metaphors. kennedy: dolla.jim:metaphors. >> you know i wondered is guaido really legit. >> according to their constitution he is. this is the part where you know, pence is the tip of spear for

public foreign policy with turkey, venezuela and et cetera, someone needs to get on the phone, pence need to get on phone with merkel, saying, okay, you recognize guaido too, where you are in the u.n. on this and britain and france, and now that rubber meets road, they disappear? there is a way to do this, an easy way and a realize -- weezy'easy way,we're not going n venezuela. kennedy: i don't want to. you have been to war. >> a la bad scenes. kennedy: i don't think that we're resolving anything. it feels like we're gist spinning our wheels. >> it will be a long-term hemorrhage of smart, wealthy middle class team who can afford to leave venezuela will hemmage

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kennedy: thank you for watching the show, the best hour of our day, tomorrow george papadopoulos tells his story. a great thursday, good night. lou: good evening there was spying, attorney general barr today made it official long held suspicions, well, it looks like they were accurate, telling lawmakers when we and president trump have known for two years, the attorney general made it known today he is looking now into the ocean joins the -- origins o obama administration's investigation of 2016 trump campaign, because, there was spying. president trump today said he is looking forward to getting to the bottom of the witch-hunt, and ha president has a lot of company in that quest for answers. >> it was started