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do they matter? "trish regan primetime" begins right now. ♪ ♪ trish: tonight, the by rom city -- hypocrisy of the dems on full display, terrified that the investigation they insisted on having, an investigation they believed would prove the president of the united states to be an agent of russia, is about to backfire. on them! the attorney general is now on record saying spying did occur. the question now, what was the spying predicated upon? this is a question every american citizen should want to know the answer to, right? i mean, as americans we have zero tolerance when it comes to spying on innocent citizens, our freedom, our privacy. these are things that are inherently american. regardless of party affiliations.

and yet the democrats, the same people that insisted on the importance of the mueller investigation, the same people that are insisting on the release of the entire report, and on this -- i'll give 'em this -- they are right. we should see it. all of it. those people do not want the a.g. to examine what led to the mueller investigation in the first place. i mean, that's just a little odd, right? right? i mean, you can't have it both ways. either you want to know what happened in 2016, and i do, or you don't. but the democrats only want to know what happened when they think it's going to result in corruption charges for the president that they hate so much. consider this, they repeatedly accused the president of obstructing justice by criticizing the mueller probe. and yet the same group is now criticizing any probe, any probe at all into spying.

so wait a second here. if they thought the president of the united states was obstructing justice by criticizing the mueller investigation, aren't they actually obstructing justice by criticizing the spying investigation? this shouldn't be political. there are a lot of questions that that need to be answered, must be answered. the attorney general must ask these questions. the use of fisa warrants must be investigated. attorney general barr is doing his job. and everyone -- democrat and republican -- should welcome that. joining me right now, former trump 2016 campaign manager corey lewandowski. corey, welcome back to the show. >> thank you for having me back. trish: i know that you, you deserve -- i think you deserve -- to know whether or not the obama administration wanted you spied on when you were running the trump campaign.

what do you think? >> you know, trish, they didn't just spy on in the nebulous group of people who were running a campaign, they spied on me and my friends, the trumps, their family, their friends. anybody associated with the presidential campaign, because they didn't like the politics of us, they didn't like the way that donald trump delivered a message. they were so afraid that donald trump was going to win the presidency that they started to spy on americans on domestic soil and get applications and warrants against us because they wanted to make sure donald trump never won. and after he won, they continued spying because we know the final fisa application was signed after donald trump was sworn in as the president of the united states. so that spying continued. and they tried to ruin people's lives. you've got dr. corsi coming on. they tried to make him plead to something he never did. look at what they've done to people, they bankrupted them, and they've done this because they didn't like our politics. i'm so happy that attorney

general barr is now looking at the investigators, the people who launched this investigation to find out if there was a criminal matter conducted. i believe there was, and i'll be bold, trish, this went to the highest levels of the previous administration. this was not a rogue employee who did this on his own, it wasn't a deputy assistant to somebody. this went to the very top of the previous administration. they knew about it and -- trish: you're talking about president obama himself? >> you know, trish, i have to believe the level of people who were involved in this spying situation, this entire hoax had to be given approval at the highest levels. if not barack obama -- and i think he did know about it -- then i believe the national security adviser, the deputy national security adviser and all of the people around barack obama absolutely knew about this. they sanctioned it, and they were never supposed to get caught because donald trump was never supposed to win -- trish: loretta lynch in that group too. >> absolutely. absolutely, she was. and, look, when we asked president trump if he thought

barack obama knew, he said he did. that should scare every american, that the former president of the united states was using his power and influence to stop a political add very care from -- adversary from winning an election. if donald trump did that to someone, it would be treason, the mainstream media would be calling for him to be removed from office, and they'd want him in jail the rest of his life. but we were never supposed to find out, and they're not going to hold barack obama accountable. i hope attorney general barr and the inspector general of the department of justice horowitz holds these people accountable and puts them in jail for the crimes they committed. trish: the tables have now turned, they really have. and we've been asking a lot of questions from the very beginning, and it looks like soon we'll get some answers. they're expecting the i.g.'s report is going to come out sometime within the next month or two. corey, you deserve them. every american does. thank you. >> well, thank you. trish: julian assange sitting behind bars in london tonight as the battle over his extradition

heats up. he was yanked from the ecuadoran embassy where he had been hiding out since 2012, and now the u.s. is calling on him the face charges. fox's ryan sill coat is in london tonight, and he has the very latest for us. ryan? >> reporter: julian assange didn't go without a fight, but after six years and ten months of self-impose pd exile in the ecuadoran embassy, the path to the paddy wagon took less than a minute before he was shoved and shackled into an awaiting van. >> in the united kingdom, no one is above the law. >> reporter: facing extradition and trial on charges of sexual assault in sweden back in 2012, the founder of wikileaks claimed he was the victim of a politically motivated plot to extradite him to the u.s. the then-president of ecuador

agreed and gave him asylum in london, taking him out of the reach of british, swedish and american authorities. in 2017 ecuador granted assange citizenship and even offered him and then rescinded a diplomatic post in russia. then came a change of leadership in ecuador, and relations began to fray with their increasingly unwelcome guest. ecuador demanded he not interfere in the -- and there were personal requests. >> the patience of ecuador has reached its limit on the behavior of mr. assange. >> reporter: today in a british court the 47-year-old was found guilty of violating bail. assange now faces extradition to the u.s. to face charges related to the publication of tens of thousands of secret government documents. the indictment ales that in 2010 -- alleges that in 2010 assange worked with analyst chelsea manning to crack a u.s. defense department password to obtain classified information.

his lawyer says this sets a dangerous precedent. >> this means that any journalist can be expedited for prosecution in the united states for having published truthful information about the united states. >> reporter: outside the embassy a handful of protesters agreed. assange will now spend the next three weeks in a british jail before a hearing determines whether he is to be extradited to the united states. trish? trish: all right. our thanks to ryan. u.s. authorities also keen on questioning assange about wikileaks. that wikileaks dump of democratic e-mails leading up to the 2016 election. joining me right now, a man who has faced questions from special counsel robert mueller's team about wikileaks releasing those e-mails, conservative author jerome corsi. his latest book is "silent no more," and he joins me live on set. and this is the first i have seen you since mueller came forward with the report, and we saw from the a.g. no collusion, no charges, and i know you're

happy to hear that. >> well, and my wife and i can't thank you enough, trish. you did the first coverage, had me on stage, on set so we could explain that we were not going to accept the plea deal, and we were going to fight back against assange. and i think the appearances on your show, trish regan's show, were critical in our being able to launch a successful defense and not be indicted. thank you very much. trish: well, jerome, listen, i don't believe in innocent people being tarnished and caught up -- you heard from corey lewandowski. he said there are people now because they couldn't afford the legal fees. who are bankrupt now. >> and my wife especially thank yous if you for the assistance you gave us allowing her to come on stage and talk about her son and the injustice done to interrogate him by mueller. and this is another attack on journalism. this is attack on julian

assange. 2013 the obama justice department decided not to indict julian assange over these chelsea a manning issues because they said it would be tantamount to indicting "the new york times" or "the washington post." as a journalist, julian assange hases a right to publish even stolen materials. i think the indictment, the seven-page indictment, was very weak on the julian assange collaborated to break a password. i doubt if he actually succeeded or did very much. and "the new york times" and "the washington post," in 1971, worked hand in glove with daniel else burg to get the pentagon papers in print. that's not collaboration that's criminal, that's journalism. and julian assange, i think, is being unjustly prosecuted. trish: that's interesting. you know, the democrats would agree with you. we saw plenty of democrats coming out very much against this. which surprised me, because i thought they hated assange. but then again, in the world which we live, i guess, if it's

politically expedient to, you know, hammer something that's going to be anti-trump, i guess maybe they're doing that. so they're saying this is payback. there's one congresswoman who's now running for president coming out saying, oh, this is just simply a case of you can't be a journalist in this environment, was if you're a journalist, they're going to lock you up. >> well, in fact, anything that hurts donald trump, the democrats are all in favor of. now, i would recommend to julian assange that he fight back just like i did and write in this book "silent no more" and going on the offensive. julian assange, i think, can come back and prove the second shoe dropping, the double whammy, robert mueller says there's no russian collusion, julian assange can prove that russia was not involved in stealing the democrats' e-mails. and i think he can come back and open up the seth rich case where he has suggested time and again that it was this democratic national committee employee who was murdered in washington

during the 2016 campaign who supplied him the e-mails -- trish: well, that is certainly, that has certainly been a can of worms. but i hear what you're saying in that the u.s. should be asking these questions to julian assange. >> yes. trish: one of the things that surprised me during all of this, they somehow thought you guys were best buds and that you were talking to him regularly, and you said, no, i haven't talked to him. >> aye never met him, never talked to him -- trish: and you said why can't they just ask him that? well, now they're going to be able to ask him a lot. >> exactly. they wanted me to go to prison because i couldn't give mueller the last piece he needed for the collusion because it wasn't true, and i wouldn't lie to save myself from going to prison. by the way, think julian assange should to what i want to do and write a book, we'll get it published for him. if he wants a co-author or ghost writer, call on me. [laughter] trish: hear that, assange? you've got a ghost writer --

>> fight back. trish: -- or a co-writer. he has information that can absolutely destroy the russian collusion hoax. he said it from the beginning. i never talked to him. all i had to do was listen to his press concernses. said -- conferences. said the russians were not involved in stealing the e-mails -- trish: so he knows exactly who it was. >> he knows and he can prove it. i told this to mueller's prosecutors. they said, dr. corsi, we're not interested in your theories. we know russia did it. i said, well, maybe you guys ought to be interested in my theories, because i can prove that julian assange is right, and the russians had nothing to do with stealing these e-mails. trish: okay. so let me play devil's advocate, maybe it's good to have him in custody. maybe now there can be some negotiation where we say, hey, julian, we need to know this, that and the other -- >> well, if he would do what i did and say i would not, before god and before a judge, plead to

a crime i didn't commit, i said put me in prison. julian assange can say put me in prison, but i'm writing a book and telling the world my story, and you guys are lying, mueller's lying, d. of justice is lying. i was only doing journalism. and he should say i can prove russia didn't steal -- trish: he's kind of been classified as a computer hacker. >> he is not a computer hacker. he publishes what other people hack, and the deep state hates him because he exposes government secrets. governments want to fight illegal wars, they don't want to admit to the people they're doing. that's what the pentagon papers was all about. the lyndon johnson and mcnamara, secretary of defense, knew in the first months of vietnam they couldn't win the war, and 50,000 americans were allowed to go over to vietnam and die in a cause that they knew from the beginning was a failure. that's why daniel ellsberg stole the pentagon paperses and why

the supreme court said "the new york times" and washington post could publish those papers and work with daniel ellsberg to get them. that's just what assange did on these papers with manning, chelsea manning. trish: okay. all right. and maybe -- >> if he wants to write a book, give me a call. he needs -- julian assange needs to come out swinging. trish: and for the nice inscription from both you and your wife monica. >> we can't thank you enough, trish. trish: well, look -- hey, listen, had you -- you know i would have held you to that if you'd gotten caught up in this. but my goal only in this, and i like you, jerome, but my goal is just to make sure that americans get the truth. >> and i was vindicated because they didn't prosecute me. they wanted me to plead to a crime they knew, mueller knew he couldn't prove in court. that's prosecutorial misconduct. that's what -- trish: thank you so much. coming up, more than a dozen colleges now offering in-state

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♪ ♪ trish: breaking tonight, "the boston globe" in hot water after publishing a disgusting hit piece. the globe now admitting the op-ed's crude language -- it's really crude -- doesn't meet their standards. some writer there named luke o'neill penned a piece this which he says he regretted that he did not, quote -- kids, close your ears on this one -- that he did not piss on, his words, not mine, a conservative pundit's meal when he was working as a waiter in a restaurant. he also goes on to go after outgoing homeland security secretary kirsten nielsen writing that any waiter that runs into her would basically be serving america if they tampered with her food, and they wouldn't regret it. lovely. lovely.

i mean, this is what "the boston globe" has been reduced to, suggesting that conservatives and people who have served our country have their food defiled? joining me right now, media research center tech watch vice president, mr. dan gainer. you're shaking your head. i'm in disbelief. i'm in disbelief. i mean, this is sort of a credible newspaper, kind of a big deal. i grew up in new hampshire, we read this thing. to allow that kind of language on their site, what's happened to 'emsome. >> well -- to 'em? >> well, what's happened now is they've apparently taken it down. trish: they changed, by the way. i'm going to tell you, they changed -- again, forgive me, i don't talk like this -- they changed piss on to defiled. and all that -- >> well -- trish: it's still up there right now. >> it went through, apparently, first they allowed it up, then they edited it to defiled, then they made other edits, and now apparently they've taken it

down. the links that i've gone to prior to the show all were broken, it's not there. i think they realized it was not worth it. but the fact that it got up there in the first place is the real disgusting thing. we're in a situation now where politicians are harassed in restaurants. kirsten nielsen was harassed at her home. politicses are chased and follows -- politicians are chased and followed, congressman steve scalise was seriously injured. this is the kind of momentum that the left has given to crazy people, and despite all that they published this piece. trish: i mean, it's one thing, dan, right, if it's -- and, by the way, hey, you know me, i'm all for freedom of speech. i'm all for it, you know? you can think it, you can say it, you can write it, but at some point, certainly at a certain level, right? "the boston globe," there should be some responsibility, someone there, some editor that says, you know what? it's really not a good thing to talk about attacking

conservatives, tampering with their food, potentially really hurting them. >> well, yeah. and even before they took it down, the last version i saw still called, you know, still bashed police as invertebrate sub misi haves. -- submissives. it state basically went after conservatives saying they should be harassed, calling for direct action. the author himself apparently went to twitter before he locked his twitter account down and was defending it basically saying that conservatives shouldn't have the ability to appear in public. and that's where we are. trish: hey, we've reached a sorry state when that's something that's considered mainstream enough to get published in the boston globe. dan gainor, thank you as always for staying on it. coming up, michael avenatti in major legal trouble tonight. federal prosecutors in california announcing new charges against the lawyer.

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taxpayers are the ones that are subsidizing it. yeah. if that's not all, at least six states are allowing undocumented students to receive state financial aid. taxpayer-funded financial aid. i mean, so what's going on here? i mean, what about the american kid, right, whose family can't afford school? what about that child? here we are giving scholarships with taxpayer money to illegals? shouldn't we be looking out for some of the american kids first, right? affording college is not easy. joining me right now is a campus reform contributor and fox nation host britt mchenry. of emma, what's your reaction to this? >> really i think this is a great chance for us to break through to students about the absurdity of where we're heading with our policies on illegal immigration because students know better than anyone that the cost of college is exorbitant, and they are fed up with that.

for them to see someone who's in our country illegally getting to cut the line and get benefits you couldn't get if you wanted to go to college in another state, i think they're going to see how unfair it is. trish: unfair is exactly the word to use to describe this. i mean, britt, you know me, and i'm not -- i'm all for, look, we need immigrants. we have a country of immigrants. i'm not going to say that, you know, we shouldn't -- but there's a way to do it the right way, and there's a way to do it the wrong way. but right now we seem to be rewarding the wrong way including with a college scholarshipment i mean, that's kind of bonkers. again, what about the american kids? >> the american kids should come first. it is incredibly expensive to go to school. i still know in my 30s after paying off student loans. but i think this is indicative of the democratic party going off the rails trying to appeal to their primary base. you look at the first-term democratic governor in new jersey, $2.1 million to legal

immigration issues, to solving any of that. people found that out. you look at bernie sanders, also wanting felons to now vote. that happened in florida. i think across the board there's this extremist let's put immigrants, felons, everybody first -- and, yes, i agree with second chances as well -- before actual tax-paying citizens. trish: look, college is really, really expensive. >> really expensive. trish: a lot of families are really struggling, right? they're trying to make ends meet. they've got to pay for their kids' tuition, but somehow because you're american now you don't get the opportunity qualify for the illegal scholarship? what kind of upside down world are we living in? >> it's actually illegal. in federal law, in u.s. code title viii we have a law that says no benefit shall be given to an illegal alien which is not available to a u.s. citizen on a state basis. and that really, i'm no attorney here, but that really is a

blaring rebuke of these policies which ultimately put people who cut the line ahead of those who do things the right way, and we spoke to students about this at university of nevada-las vegas, and they were not supportive. they said this is unfair, that i pay a lot of money to go to college, this is not how it should be, and i really do think that attitude will only begin to take more traction as they start to see the other holes in the way that we treat illegal immigration right now. trish: yeah, no, i hear ya. in california, right? ucla, you want to get the in-state tuition, britt, they have requirements. like, you have to live in california a certain amount of time. >> yeah. trish: if i'm a kid from new york or connecticut or new hampshire, i'm not going to qualify for that in-state tuition, but somehow if i'm just illegal, if i just showed up and i said, okay, i'm going to live in california's sanctuary place and i'm going to get a free

ride? >> it's sending a horrible message. i wanted to go to unc-chapel hill, and it was incredibly difficult out of state. i couldn't get in as a legal american, but we're going to let illegal immigrants go in and get free tuition? university of kansas with crazy electives that made news this week, in-state is 11,000, out of state $27,000. that's just the university of kansas, let a alone ucla. trish: if you're in kansas, you get the benefit. >> americans are dishing out the student loans, and immigrants are coming in for free. trish: you know how much we pay in taxes, right? if you're here illegally, you're not paying taxes and yet once again getting the benefit of the system. i mean, shouldn't the system be rewarding those who are paying into it, emma? >> absolutely. and i think this idea of rewarding illegal behavior did start on college campuses, but i think we have the chance to stop it because students understand better than anyone that college

is too expensive, and i think this is going to be a chance to get through to them on this issue. trish: we're going to stay on it. we are going to stay on this issue because, again, i don't care what you think about immigration itself and whether you want to open up, you know, all of our borders, the idea that you can come here and suddenly get a free ride at a college, at a university that is taxpayer-funded, that doesn't make sense. thank you, emma. thank you, britt. >> thank you. trish: we've got a lot more coming up. fame-loving attorney michael avenatti is in major trouble tonight. wait until you hear how many years he might be spending behind bars if convicted. ♪ ♪ ♪ here i go again on my own ♪ goin' down the only road i've ever known ♪ ♪ like a drifter i was-- ♪ born to walk alone! keep goin' man!

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watch. >> do you believe that president trump still is an agent of russia that? what do you mean by that? >> he acts on their behalf. he puts their interests finish. >> do you think he's taking orders from vladimir putin? >> if he wasn't, he wouldn't take the interpreter's notes. trish: all right, you can't make this stuff up. the daily caller's stephanie him imel. forgive me, we have adam epstein. good to see you. i a i i apologize for that. they write something else, but when i saw that face, i knew exactly who it was. [laughter] i want you to explain, please, why it is that some democrats are still so convinced that the president is an agent of russia, a manchurian candidate of russia's? >> well, i can't with speak for every democrat. i will tell you that eric

swalwell, who i do like a lot, jumped the shark this morning with those comments. i think it's very irresponsible to say what he said, and you could see willie geist trying to press him on this. i think as i've said on this program before, and i think you agree, until we read the mueller report, we don't know anything, so we shouldn't be speculating like that. trish: yeah. i want to see the report, you want to see the report, everybody wants to see the mueller report. we're not going to have a disagreement about that. but i want to see the i.g.'s report, and i want to see why it is that william barr thinks that spying happened. >> i do too. trish: good. every american should. this should not be a partisan issue. and yet, stephanie, you've got a guy running for president that what wants to float this narrative and continue this narrative of the president of the united states being an agent of russia. i'm sorry, i don't think that's going to win him the election. >> yeah. this is absolutely absurd, and it shows that swalwell is unqualified to run for president, and he's unfit to lead. he should resign.

this is a congressman who is out there spreading wild conspiracy theories about a duly elected president. it's totally unacceptable. and while we're on the topic, we should talk about adam schiff. he should resign too. he has the intelligence committee, and he's out there spreading the conspiracy theories with swalwell. they're both neck deep in the russia collusion hoax, and they really have nowhere to go. they can either apologize for lying to the american people, or they can continue to spread these lies hoping that someone will believe them. trish: you know they're not going to apologize, but i to think they're irresponsible. adam agrees with you. let's talk about what's coming next, okay? we know we're going to get the mueller report. i can't wait to read it, all many hundred pages of it. >> me too. trish: but the other thing i really want to read is this i.g. report. and now we have william bar, the attorney general, saying he does believe spying occurred. and yet you've got so many democrat -- and please don't

tell me you're one of them, adam -- how dare he, he's maligning the fbi and this, that and the other. it seems to me once again, party politics aside, everybody should want to know the answer to what the heck happened in 2016. adam? >> of course. i mean, yeah, i mean, i think i take issue, i'm not going to assassinate the attorney general as a whole or what his whole role is, but i do believe that he used the term spying, and he didn't provide evidence for that. i think he meant to say surveillance, because the fbi did launch a counterintelligence probe into what russia did, and we don't know the result of that yet. but we do know, we do know they did obtain nice -- fisa warrants. i do want to see horowitz's report, but i think the language of spying is something out of hoover's fbi or some cold war -- trish: so i am going to give you the oxford dictionary definition of spying. and the definition is spying is

work for a government or other organization by secretly collecting information about enemies or competitors. all right? so it does seem, another one is to observe someone, like the couple were spied on by reporter, that's one of the quotes that's being used. discern or make out especially by careful observation. well, that's a different one. he could spy a figure in the distance, in other words, you get it. surveillance, spying, they seem to kind of be in some cases somewhat similar. however, i hear what you're saying because as stephanie, i guess the big question is whether or not this was politically motivated, right? >> yeah. trish: politically. and that's why he's saying we need to understand the origin of all of this. >> well, we know that barr isn't a political hack. democrats once supported him under bush, unanimously they approved him. and he's worked at the highest levels of government, and in the

private sector he's extremely respected. and so the idea that he's some sort of partisan that is loyal to trump, that's absolutely absurd. and when we're talking about spying, i'm glad that you brought it up, spying and proper surveillance, that's what he's looking at. we know for a fact there was surveillance in 2016. carter page, they wiretapped him. that's a fact. we also know that the fbi engaged an informant to, you know, to look into the trump campaign. so all of these things happened. the question is was it improper, and that's what he's going to look into. and we -- trish: to me, what's improper about all of this, and it's pretty obvious and should be to everyone, is the idea that a fisa warrant was obtained by using opposition research. right? i mean, and never telling the judge. that therein, i think, crosses a line where the fbi goes from an organization that is trying to conduct surveillance into an organization that is not actually sourcing its own

material, checking, as it should, its own material. instead, relying on opposition research. and that is a problem. adam, last word to you. >> yeah. i mean, the opposition research, i assume you're referring to the steele dossier. that was only part of what went into the surveillance -- trish: so why wouldn't you tell the judge, hey, this is opposition research paid for by the hillary clinton camp? >> listen, carter page was the subject of a russian spy ring as far back as 2013. he was looked at by the fbi as a potential russian spy. also he was surveilled after he left the trump campaign, by the way, so i think we just have to clear up some of those facts. trish: i still go back to why on earth anybody's using opposition research and not telling the judge. a judge deserves that information. stephanie,stephanie, the adam, u so much. michael avenatti in hot water tonight, federal

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♪ ♪ trish: fame-loving attorney michael avenatti the facing even more legal troubles, he was just indicted by a federal grand jury in california on 36 opportunity. this is a guy that wanted to be president, right? the charges allege that he stole millions of dollars from clients as well. if convicted of these charges, the media-obsessed attorney could be looking at a sentence of 335 years. joining me right now is author of "licensed the lie," sidney fowler. good to have you here. >> thank you. trish: so some of our reasons to perhaps doubt avenatti's character aside, from a legal standpoint what is he really looking at here? how much of a problem is this for him, and what would you advise him, sidney? [laughter] >> mr. avenatti has a very big

problem. there are 19 tax counts alone. i mean, if there's one thing you don't want to do, it is to fail to file your tax returns, which he has not done apparently since 2010. op top of that -- on top of that, he gave a bank bogus tax returns to try to get a loan are. so there are two counts of false statements to banks. and bank fraud. he has got problems out the wazoo now, and these are very serious charges. trish you know what amazes me, you've got to think about someone's ego here, right? because he wanted to rub for president. he's been -- run for president. he's been very vocal about how the president needs to release his tax returns. he was doing this full on knowing he hadn't filed taxes since 2010? >> people who live in glass houses should not throw large stones, and he's been throwing big rocks for a long time now. he should have known better

with. he owed the irs millions, $12 million in personal taxes i think it is and $5 million in payroll taxes. these charges are mind blowing. it's a 61-page indictment full of details. not to mention the millions of dollars he embezzled from clients alleged in ten wire fraud counts. trish: yeah, that's bad, bad stuff. so is there an out for him? any which way? i mean, what would be your advice here? >> i would advise that he take the best plea deal he can possibly get, but i think even then he's looking at serious time. and, frankly, if these allegations are true -- and that remains to be seen -- but there is a lot of information in the indictment. i can't think of a better person who should serve time than mr. avenatti. trish: he's going to say this is political. they're just going after me because i went after trump. what would you say to that? >> i would say, again, that people who live in glass houses

shouldn't throw stones. everybody knows to file their that tax returns and, certainly, a lawyer. embezzling money from his clients is one of the most egregious things a lawyer can do. trish: yeah. no, i know. when i heard that one, so, again, we'll see if it's true. but i guess he'll have his day in court. or maybe he won't, because maybe he'll strike that plea deal, per your advice, sidney, and spend a little time behind bars. is that what he's facing? how much time in prison? >> he's finish oh, he's facing the rest of his life in prison. trish: yeah. wow. incredible. thank you -- hey, before i go, what do you think about attorney general barr real quick? i just have 20 seconds, and this spygate -- >> i'm very encouraged. i think he's a man of great integrity who believes in the rule of law, and that's exactly what we need right now. trish: sidney, it's good to have to you here. >> thank you. trish: all right. coming up, everyone, you can get a little new info. we've got the newest addition to

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