someone, we hope you'll join us a reminder to follow me on twitter at lou dobbs, like me on facebook follow me on instagram at lou dobbs tonight. thanks for being with have a good weekend, see you monday. good night from new york. trish: president trump strongly considering releasing migrants into sanctuary cities here in the u.s. as the crisis at our southern border reaches a breaking point tonight. >> california certainly is always saying, oh, we want more people, and they want more people in their sanctuary cities, well, we'll give them more people. they're always saying they have open arms, let's see. trish: democrats are outraged, they say it's some kind of retaliation. my intel on their hypocrisy, just seconds away. new york democrats have no problem using taxpayer money to help illegal students go to college, yes, they're giving taxpayer dollars for tuition in

new york and 17 other states, but what about the children of deceased and disabled military veterans? no. democrats just blocked a bill to provide free tuition for these students. we're on it. plus, congresswoman ilhan omar doubling down on her some people did something on 9/11. she tried to compare her comments to those made by president george w. bush just days after the attack. "trish regan primetime" begins right now. ♪ ♪ trish: the president is considering tonight sending illegal immigrants that we cannot send home, that we cannot process here to sanctuary cities. and the left is going absolutely, positively nuts. you want to talk about hi hypocrisy, amid word that the administration is considering this move if, nancy pelosi said, and i quote: the extent of this

administration's cynicism p and cruelty cannot be overstated, using human beings as pawns in their warped game to perpetuate fear and demonize immigrants is despicable and in some cases criminal. i mean, how exactly would this be cruel? theoretically, politicians want migrants -- some of the democratic politicians -- want migrants in these sanctuary cities, right? i mean, that's why they've made them sanctuary cities. it's okay to be the illegal in a sanctuary city. and on the border towns where the system is so stretched, americans don't want any more illegals. so for democrats, i would just say why not practice what you preach? i mean, this ought to be a win/win. you want to open the borders, well, then bring them to your community. how is that cruel? nancy pelosi thinks the president is using migrants as

pawns? need we repeat more than 100,000 migrants were apprehended at the border last month. many were released into the country because we don't have enough room at the detention centers. if ms. pelosi is against enforcement at the border, then she ought to be for taking them in san francisco, right? california pretends that they want them. but when confronted with reality, the reality that they may get 'em, that they may get the illegals that they want to protect, what do they do? they go crazy, and they claim that somehow this president is trying to retaliate against them. makes no sense. why not send illegals to a place where the politicians claim they must be protected? i mean, if i were illegal, i'd want to be in a sanctuary city. if they said, hey, you can get on a bus and you can go to san francisco where you're going to be protected, i'd say, sign me up. why not give them that

opportunity? why not give them that option? seems like a logical thing to do. nancy pelosi should be opening her arms, welcoming every single person who wants to come to the united states illegally, welcome them to california. don't criticize the administration for offering to send them to you. total liberal hypocrisy. joining me right now, texas congressman roger williams. congressman, good to have you here. what's your reaction to this? she says it's all political, that somehow he's trying to use these people as pawns. mean, she's the one who wants -- i mean, she's the one who wants them here, so why can't she take them in her district? >> well, that's a good question. it's just double talk, and it's all politics. i've been down to the border today, the last two days i was down at the rio grande sector and saw what's going on down there. our border patrol is being overwhelmed and doing an unbelievable job in trying to take care of these people coming

in. you know, i talked to the border patrolled today, we need 500 more just at the rio grande sector. we need facilities that are not temporary, but permanent. we got one area there that's designed for 115 people, and it's got -- or 119, it's got 500 people in it. we need more judges to help process these folks. and we shouldn't even be having this conversation on sanctuary cities. if the democrats would understand, this is not a made-up problem, it's a real problem, and we need to address it. trish: yeah, but as soon as the problem's confronting them and on their doorstep, they don't want to deal with it. what's the expression, not in my backyard? it's fine theoretically to say, oh, this is texas' problem, this is arizona's problem, we don't need to deal with this ourselves in the way that they're having to do so. but as soon as the president offers to the send them -- [laughter] to their districts and to sanctuary cities, they go crazy. i mean, that strikes me as total hypocrisy. >> well, it is.

and if they are that concerned about coming to their community, then they should help us in texas and along the southern border in america alleviate this problem and process these folks and let the border patrol have what they need. and we're not even talking about the drug cartels that are driving a lot of this process too that they're fighting. if they don't want them in their area, then help us fix the problem here. trish: she's not willing to do that. somehow it's racist to even be having this conversation, right? it's racist to -- you know, this is a problem with no end in sight at this point. we're talking about more than 100,000 people last month. there's talks of possibly 150,000 this month. i'm curious, congressman, why do you think the number keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger? >> well, it's getting bigger and bigger because they are told and they think and the coyotes tell them if they can just get there, they're safe in america, and some of them they're telling them they can be citizens. so they're driven by this. and, of course, we need to be able to have the judges to process this and make sure

people understand, you tonight just come here -- don't come here and walk in america. there's a process to it, we want you to do it the legal way. there was millions and millions of dollars just last week spent in coyote fees to bring these people up, right up to our borders. it's unbelievable, the amount of money that's coming through there that these people are having a false hope to come into america. trish: what kind of stress does this put on your community in texas? >> well, it's a strong -- you know, i was down in brownsville yesterday and mcallen today the, you talk to the business people, they're stressed because of the people, but they're also stressed economically. when you have waits at the border of six hours and five hours and you trying to get products and so forth, it it's t a good thing, and they're affected economically down there. we've got to get this thing fixed from an economic standpoint and from a humanity standpoint. trish: good luck. i'm sorry, but i'm not encouraged when i hear the kind of rhetoric that i've been

hearing out of washington these day, and you're there trying to work with them on capitol hill. again, i wish you luck, sir. >> well, i wish they'd all come down and see what i saw today, and maybe they'd probably see the problem, the magnitude, and we need to fix it not only for our country, but for the people of the world with, frankly. trish: congressman williams, thank you. >> thank you. trish: tonight democrats in one of the most liberal states in the country shamefully blocking a bill that would have provided free college tuition to children of gold star families while simultaneously -- this is the kicker -- offering $27 million in financial aid to illegal immigrants applying for school. new york state now among 18 states in this country offering taxpayer-subsidized in-state tuition to illegal students. i'm sorry, i'm sorry, what about the american kids? you know, the ones whose families are paying taxes? the they're struggling to afford college themselves, and yet we've got a giveaway for illegals? gold star families cannot get money for school, but illegals

can? the democratic lawmakers in the state are so far out in left field on this one that they're not even in agreement with the democratic governor. nonetheless, that's where we are today. families who have lost loved ones fighting for our nation cannot get a break on college tuition while illegals are offered millions. joining me right now gold star mother karen vaughn who runs a nonprofit for kids who have lost their parents in war. she's reacting to this. karen, it's good to have you. what's your take? >> i tell you what, sometimes i feel like the democrats in the state of new york are trying to outdo each other on a continuous basis to see who can make the most ludicrous legislation or the most ludicrous moves. it is insulting as a gold star family member to have ten times the money allocated for illegal immigrants for college tuition as to gold star families. 2.7 million to gold star families, 27 million allocated to illegal immigrants. i wish i could just sit down for

coffee with every single one of them and tell them what life is like for my grandchildren whose father died in the battlefields of afghanistan. i wish that i could just personalize it for them so that they understand that people who fight for our country don't fight with an r or a d on their shoulder, they fight with an american flag on their shoulder for everybody. and yet those who have defended us, who have provided the freedom for these legislators to even have their offices, they want to disgrace their family members. i -- one statistic many people aren't aware of is at any given time during this, the longest war in america's history, less than one-half of 1% of our citizens have been engaged in the actual battle. that leaves 99.5% of us to take care of the families of those who get left behind. i'm, frankly, outraged that this is the condition our nation -- and i want to say one other thing, trish. what about the voters in new york? they're the ones putting these people in office. when are they going to shift

what's happening in their state legislature? because i don't understand what's happening in in this state. trish: it's not just the state, cain. this is happening all over the can country right now. in particular, gold star families are being affected in new york, but everyday americans are struggling to get access to college tuition. in-state tuition is being offered -- which is subsidized, right? taxpayers are subsidizing that. in-state tuition is is being offered to illegals. when with i was a kid, you couldn't just move to l.a. and say i want to get ucla tuition rates. now all that's out the window, and gold star families and everyday americans are getting shortchanged in the process? >> this entire identity politics with the illegal immigrants has just risen to a level of absurdity that most of us -- and this is what's so frustrating about it. we all know the truth of this. i read today that one of the

assemblymen here in new york said that he's offended that the republicans are using gold star children as pawns. what have the democrats done with the children of illegal immigrants? i mean, this entire hysteria has been based over children, and now we're talking about children's education while, as you said, so many americans respect afforded the liberty of a free education. for crying out loud, student loans, i've got one child who's still paying student loans back 12 years out of college, and most people are in that situation. it is absurd -- trish: it would be nice if they would get their priorities straight. >> it would be nice if americans could come first. wow. wow. trish: hey -- >> what a concept. trish: thank you very much. >> thank you. trish: coming up, everyone, former obama doj and fbi officials now in full-on panic mode as a.g. barr confirms there was spying during the 2016 campaign. wait until you hear how former fbi director james comey is trying to spin it all, parsing

words in total desperation tonight. but first, far-left democrat ilhan omar doubling down on her some people did something on 9/11 comment as she likened her statement to the famous words spoken by president george w. bush just days after the 9/11 attack. her bizarre comparison when we return. ♪ ♪ >> and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. [cheers and applause] we can go down this what do you think? ♪ woo! yeah! it's good! it's refreshing. ♪ at northwestern mutual,

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♪muck. >> fear was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. trish: new tonight, freshman democrat ilhan omar deciding that instead of apologizing for those insensitive remarks that you just heard regarding the september 11th terror attacks in which she said somebody just did something, she's going to double down. she's now trying to compare her comments to just the same as what then-president bush said back then. >> as we mourn the loss of thousands of our citizens -- i

can hear you! [cheers and applause] i can hear you, the rest of the world hears you, and the people -- [cheers and applause] and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. [cheers and applause] trish: this woman is an egomaniac who lacks any kind of sensitivity, any kind of understanding of what really happened that day. for her to somehow equate what she said to what the president of the united states said in the days following that horrific attack, well, she's got a screw loose, if you ask me. joining me right now, president of the american islamic forum for democracy, dr. jasser. talk about utter lack of sensitivity, lack of

understanding. time and place for her to say somehow what she said is the same as what president bush said, what is she thinking? [laughter] >> i don't know, trish, and it's beyond offensive. i mean, the worst combination for a politician is supreme arrogance, ignorance and on top of it her islamist world view. her arrogance is beyond belief that she would compare herself to the president. here you have a somali refugee who now is living the american dream representing her constituents in congress, and she wants to compare herself to president bush post-9/11 and somehow yet be the victim also. her ignorance, his comments were three days after 9/11, 9/14/01, he used the term evil, he used the term terrorism. m so her chutzpah notwithstanding is completely wrong factually. third is her islamist world view. if she really was contrite and honest, she would have said, you know, that's not what i meant.

al-qaeda attacked us, and it would have been dispensed with a week ago. but her arrogance is so high, she's taking the rest of us american muslims with her into this gutter of far-left radicalism. and then you wonder why muslims are radicalized, because they see her as a victim now when, in fact, she's living the american dream comparing herself to president bush post-9/11. i mean, it is just beyond the pale. trish: listen, you're right. this is a woman who really is a self-everybody egomaniac -- selfish egomaniac. to be saying such things with no sense of context around them, it tells you how selfish she is, how self-centered and, frankly, how not intelligent, right? i mean, part of -- you know, i think sensitivity and intelligence do go hand in hand. and it's understanding the people that you're talking to, the time that something occurred, and she's just wiping that right off the face of the everett -- the face of the earth

because it doesn't suit her narrative. is that dangerous for our country? is that kind of rhetoric something that could send us down a path that you worry about, dr. jazzer? dr. jasser? >> very much. we have to -- the good part about this, why this isn't a waste of time, this is very important for americans to understand, this is my world. when people say or where are the moderate muslims, the islamists lift up ignorance, egocentric folks who believe in the islamist movement because they serve them as useful idiots very well. at the end of the day, once you understand what islamism is, you can treat it and confront it. america's beginning to get an understanding of how islamists see america, how they see 9/11 as, oh, just sort of an act, and muslims -- trish: an act that hurt them, uh-huh. >> exactly. they're the victims versus actually an act of war that president bush and the rest of our sons and daughters who who fought wars in afghanistan and iraq were fighting to protect uses and protect her freedom -- us and protect her freedom.

right now, for example, you're seeing them run for cover because president trump tweeted out her video. why are we infantilizing her? she's a member of congress. she should get treated as an adult, and to speak against her is not incitement. it is ridiculous to say that muslims should be held to different standards from every other member of congress that get death threats every day. trish: everybody's cautious around her, they're afraid to say anything negative, but when i hear her trivializing something like 9/11 and turning it somehow now she's the victims, muslims are the victim overall because of 9/11, i'm troubled by that. you know? i always like talking to you, dr. jasser, because i think you've got a good view on it all. you're a religious man, but you keep that religion within context. i worry sometimes that there's a radical element that, you know, we're not able to call out because it's politically not

correct to do so. >> and that radicalization, by the way, is going to happen more and more as muslims don't -- part of my religiousity is the belief that i have a responsibility to correct the radicalism within my communities. the largest community that has jihadis going to fight with isis in al-shabaab happens to be coming near her district, if not in her district, the jihadi of the somali shabaab and others, and homeland security was trying to enact programs, and she and the organization she was raising money for fought that as being anti-muslim, anti-- pro-profiling, etc. so this is the real story that i hope america begins to understand when they say why are our programs failing? well, we're so busy being told that we're the problem instead of the ideology that we should fight as americans who love our country. trish: call it out. keep calling it out. dr. jasser, thank you so much. coming up tonight, a lot of you are speaking out about this

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>> when i hear that kind of language used, it's concerning because the fbi, the department of justice conduct court-ordered electronic surveillance. i have never thought of that as spying. trish: former obama fbi head james comey on defense tonight, trying to finesse the definition of spying. arguing that all he and his department engaged in was surveillance. this after attorney general william barr told congress that spying did occur in the 2016 election. the question for barr now is, why? why did it occur? why did it happen? how did it happen? what was that spying predicated upon? joining me right now for their legal analysis, former federal prosecutor doug burns and former georgia congressman and trump 2016 campaign senior adviser jack kingston. good to see you both.

>> thank you. >> good to be here. trish: jack, i'll start with you, because you were involved in the 2016 campaign. i imagine they were looking at you along with everybody else just from an individual perspective, is in any kind of gratification that you have right now knowing that attorney general barr is saying, okay, this did happen, and we're going to get to the bottom of it? >> absolutely. and i've got to tell you, my friend carter page has had really two years of hell not knowing who read what e-mails he had, who listened the his phone calls and what was the basis for it. he has said from the beginning he's innocent, and now finally it's beginning to come out. but when you are spying on somebody, you are eavesdropping on them one way or the other, and they don't know about it. that's spying on somebody. and if mr. comey is saying it's concerning to him, he ought to be concerned, he ought to be lawyering up after what he did when he recorded the president's conversations in a memo that was classified, then he stole his

memos and leaks it to the new york times through a friend. he should be concerned. he should be calling a lawyer. trish: i think he's very nervous. i think a lot of democrats are nervous. they should be positively terrified, because this whole thing is about, potentially, about to flip on them. i mean, it's like a boomerang, right? i mean, they were so excited. doug, from a legal perspective right now, talk to me about surveillance versus spying. >> of course. well, you get into these political smaptic dust-ups, okay? e semantic. actually it's a three-part analysis. trish: okay. >> if you get surveillance on somebody, okay, jim comey tells you one-half of the equation. he says it's court-ordered, a judge signed it. that's true. but what he leaves out is the argument you've heard over and over and over again, trish, which is that that if information is presented to a court that's not accurate -- which happens fairly frequently, and sometimes it's for benign reasons, something goes into a

search warrant application that's not accurate. they have a case called the leon case which says if you're in good faith, it's okay. but if you intentionally mislead a court which is you didn't disclose the genesis of who bought and paid for this information that you presented to a fisa court, then you can throw what jim comey said out the window. trish: hey, look, as a journalist i source information, i triple check it. i want to make sure that it's right. i want to determine its authenticity, and in this particular case you've got the fbi going to the judge and never bothering to tell the judge, hey, this is opposition research that hillary clinton paid for, and -- go ahead. >> he's saying he still doesn't know who paid for it. that's what a fraud jim comey is living in. trish: well, you know, it may have started with one party and then eventually made its way -- listen are, we can tell you, hillary clinton's law firm paid for it on behalf of her

campaign. >> absolutely. trish: and then you've got fusion gps with the wife of bruce ohr,, nellie ohr, working for fusion gps, and he's at the fbi, and it becomes increasingly incestuous. when it's all said and done, you know, the obama administration, let's face it, guys, didn't have the best reputation. you think about lois lerner and the irs and how they targeted conservatives, and you think about that infamous tarmac if meeting, they weren't exactly what i would call above board. could they actually have spied on trump's campaign for political reasons? jack, first to you on that. >> i'm going to say, heck yes. and particularly when they hire an fbi informant named halper, he goes on fishing expeditions with three of the campaign staffers trying to trip them up. he did get george papadopoulos. he did not get carter page or

george clovis, but the fbi sent this guy there to spy on him even though as we know now the mueller report has said despite russia's many overtures to the campaign, the campaign resisted every one of them. but that's not good enough for comey and clapper and brennan and the crowd. i'm glad that now in inspector general, horowitz, is looking into the fisa applications and the process -- trish: because how did it all happen? >> it's coming out slowly. trish: slowly but surely. we're expecting the ig's report in a month or two. that ought to be interesting. >> historians are going to get troves of documents, you're going to see that those who dismissed this, oh, this is a wild conspiracy theory, it's nothing more than to deflect from the real, legitimate mueller probe, you heard that when they talked about how it it start. and the biggest of all was how could you criticize the very institution of fbi and doj.

they were saying there's a few bad apples at the elite, top political levels, and i think there is validity to it. i think you hit it right on the held, trish, which is they have to be concerned that an examination, you know, sunlight's -- trish: it's coming, indeed, indeed. comey might not come out of this so well. good to see you both, doug and jack. a whole lot more coming up. brand new developments in a story we reported on exclusively here on "trish regan primetime". eighteen statements doling out taxpayer money to subsidize college tuition for illegal immigrants. coming up, an attorney who says going at taxpayer dollars -- doling out taxpayer dollars to non-citizens is against the law. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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designed to represent the 272 slaves sold by the university back in 1838. the money is intended to go to charities to support the slaves' descendants, reparations. all happening as the democratic party ramps up its rhetoric supporting reparations. watch. >> would you sign the bill for reparations? >> yes, i would, i already supported that bill. [applause] >> when i am elected president, i'll sign it. >> absolutely, i would sign that into law. trish: so this is their tactic? there's more of them, by the way. that's how they're going to win the african-american vote in 2020? come on. joining me right now, miamier ennis andtive author and speaker david harris jr. niger, let me just say, look -- [laughter] as someone who is an advocate for racial equality, tell me, are reparations -- like the democratic party is proposing --

are they going to heal the wounds of the several war? >> no, they're not going to heal the wounds of slavery and segregation. i find it so ironic that it's the democratic party presidential candidates, it was the democratic party that was the party of slavery. we know the republican party was largely established to end slavery, and it did in a vicious civil war. after the civil war in a very, very brief period of striving for racial equality called reconstruction the democratic party, with the help of its armed militia called the ku klux klan, rolled back, if you will, the progress that had been made after the civil war, brought about jim crow. after jim crow they promoted under the guise of the so-called great society, promoted a dependency society which broke up black families and undermined black social mobility which had,

actually, before the great society had been celebrated. trish: pretty good, no -- >> we were entering into the middle class. so it's ironic as heck that the democrats are promoting reparations. maybe the democratic party itself -- [laughter] trish: i guess, yeah, clearly. >> [inaudible] trish: david -- [laughter] i mean, part of the problem with this, and i think that niger hit the nail on the held when he said they promoted policies that effectively kept the african-american community dependent. you look at the native american community, for example, in the united states of america and the reservations that we set up where we gave them land and we gave them certain tax breaks and, unfortunately, in z many of those communities you see very, very high crime rates, you see a struggle still in those communities for people to adapt ask if to move into the middle class -- and to move into the middle class. if you ask me, the best thing you can give anybody, any minority group -- and i include

myself in that as a woman -- is economic opportunity, right? and that's what we're seeing right now. >> yes. trish: if you have a choice between more jobs or a handout called reparations, what do you take? >> you absolutely take opportunity. yeah. more jobs. trish: yeah. so what's your, what's your sense of how this is going to fly in the african-american community? because, you know, they're hoping that this is going to sway the vote. you know, you just promise people reparations, and they're going to sign up to vote for you? david? >> yeah, i think that's exactly what they're trying to do, you know? all of this made me think of something. nobody like when somebody owes them money. people just don't like it, especially when it's legitimate. and so this entire narrative is them trying to drive a wedge and stir up animosity from the black community over something that should be over and done with. it was done with, i think, before barack obama became

president. we weren't talking about stuff like this. so i think they're absolutely realizing that they're losing the black vote, people are walking away. they like the opportunity that our president donald trump is giving to all americans, especially the black community, and they're doing whatever they can and trying to do anything they can to keep it an emotional rhetoric war within the black community which tears all americans apart. it's not healthy, and it's nothing that americans should buy into by any means. risch trevor yeah. >> speaking of the civil war, trish and david, after the civil war when the republicans or democrats wanted to stir up the vote, they would pull up what was called the bloody shirt to reminded partisans about the civil war. well, that's exactly what the democrats are doing. they are waving the bloody shirt precisely because of what david is talking about. you have record low unemployment, record economic opportunity -- [laughter] within the black community. >> so good. >> and democrats are terrified! >> yeah!

[laughter] >> terrified for president trump to get somewhere between 20-25% of the black vote. that's what this whole reparations nonsense is about. >> yep. >> nancy pelosi has not even allowed a bill called h.r. 40 that was introduced by a congresswoman out of texas, sheila jackson-lee, around reparations. it hasn't even reached the floor and it won't. these folk are not serious, they're just waving the bloody shirt. >> yeah, absolutely. trish: david and niger, good to see you both. i'm all for economic opportunity. coming up, everyone, 18 states in this country now offering subsidized college to illegals. tonight an attorney is here who says giving tax dollars to non-citizens might actually be breaking the law. but first, jussie smollett saying no way is he ponying up 130 grand in damages to the city of chicago for the massive lie that he told. now the city is suing him for that money, and my next guest says he may now have to pay triple the price.

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against jussie smollett as they try to recoup some of the money wasted investigating his alleged hate crime hoax. last week the city demanded smollett reimburse them $130,000 in damages and what do you know? he refused. what a guy. actually the, they could be entitled to over three times that amount according to a new lawsuit. they say smollett purposely tried to mislead authorities by falsely describing the men he claimed attacked him. joining me right now is an attorney. welcome to the show, good to see you again. do you think this guy's going to be paying up bigtime when it's the all said and done? >> well, i think mr. smollett really took a big gamble here. civil cases can be way less forgiving than criminal cases, just ask o.j. simpson. quite frankly, i think the government is going to have a much easier tee it's only a preponderance of the standard, it's over 50% that he lied about this. so i think that there is a very

good chance that he will have to pay, and i think that's absolutely a good thing that the city is trying to do. trish: all right. we'll see if he pays that fine, right? [laughter] because he refused on this one. anyway, it keeps adding up. let me turn to another story that i know you're following along with us, and that's this issue of offering in-state tuition now, 18 states are offering in-state tuition at colleges, universities to people who are here illegally. now, last time the i checked you have to live in a state, right? you have to declare your resident city in the a state because -- in a state because you have to have been a taxpayer in that state in order to get the benefit of the taxpayer-subsidize in-state tuition. now it's all changed. is that legally possible for them to do? could someone fight this? >> well, they actually could, and i think it's a real shame. it definitely incentivizes

illegal immigration in yet another form and does fly in the face of federal law. there's a specific federal law that says a benefit cannot be given to somebody who's not lawfully present unless that same benefit is given to any other citizen of the united states. there's a lot of colleges and universities that charge out of state tuitions for other americans who don't live in that state. the department of justice has not actually enforced this law as of yet. it's not been tested in the courts, but i think it's ripe for that. trevor trek well, i think someone should take it on. katie, it's good to see you. >> thanks, trish. trish: lots more coming up tonight, including talk to trish. find out how i manage somehow, some way to spend time with my kids while still doing this job every single night. some behind the scenes pictures when we return. ♪ ♪ you still stressed about buying our first house, sweetie?

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so happy. they're always saying they have open arms, let's see. trish: in other words,s put your money where your mouth is, right? that's the president of the united states saying, okay, all these sanctuary cities all across the country, they need to be willing to do their part, they need to be willing to take some of these people that are coming here that we can't house in places like texas and arizona. so we'll see whether or not they go along with it. can you send me a tweet? go to my facebook page and let me know what you think about that story. we're so close to the weekend, but it's time for talk to trish. joseph on facebook asks what issue should be at the forefront of the 2020 election. i think it always comes back to the economy. it comes back to the prosperity of this country. there are things like health care that are very much going to be an eshoo and taxes that or -- issue and taxes that are going to continue to be an issue and, of course, the immigration crisis as well.

dawn on twitter. hi, trish, question: you have three smart little kids -- daring, he said, i guess they are a little daring, especially if you see them playing in the yard. and you have twin daughters, who's older, he asks, between your twin daughters. actually, that would be alexandra by all of one minute. and do you have more than happy play time with the three of them despite your tight schedule at fox? thank you. and, don, i absolutely do. i got a little surprise for you right over here on the set. jamie made it to work tonight. you come in a a lot on fridays, don't you -- >> yep. trish: what'd you do at work today with mommy? >> well, i went and i writed and printed a picture of my dog -- trish: your new puppy, right? >> yep. he's nameed campo, and he likes

to play with his chew toys. [laughter] today when i was saying good-bye to him before, i was going to work with mom, he kept jumping up and barking and saying, probably saying i want you, jamie, i want you. trish: yeah, he loves you so much, right? and he loves your sisters too. >> yeah. trish: he's a good dog. >> yeah s. and he really also likes his new easter basket we made him withing, like, the bed and stuff. [laughter] trish: he misses you when you come here. >> yeah. trish: but this is what the viewers didn't know and don didn't know. on fridays i often bring you or i bring elizabeth or i bring alexandra, and you guys hang out with me at the office, and you're backstage there in the green room. but tonight you made it all the

way out in front of the camera. >> well -- trish: and you not even nervous. >> i think, i was thinking -- trish: it's going to be a good weekend, that's what you were thin >> an underwater strange inheritance. >> we've had this in the family since 1899. >> their world's an oyster. >> do you want to try and shuck >> i would. it's all about the shuck. >> but their biz is belly-up. >> they pretty much said this oyster-planting business is over. >> they want to revive it. >> a couple drinks make anything sound good. >> so, will they sink... >> we looked at our debt for the first time, like, "whoa. it's, like, $350,000". >> ...or float? >> okay, here we go. come to mama. ♪ [ door creaks ] [ wind howls ] [ thunder rumbles ] [ bird caws ] ♪