>> century city mayor bill de blasio breaking rains with his brother and he is threatening to sue president trump if president trump is to send illegal immigrants to sanctuary new york. that is this for us tonight tonight from new york city. >> the devastating fire that tore through iconic notre dame cathedral has been extinguished. official are now in the early stages of investigating how the blaze started. french president an addressed hs nation saying it will be rebuilt. >> i'm telling you this today, with strength, we are people of rebuilders. we have a lot to rebuild. we will rebuild northern game even more beautiful and it will be done within the next five

years. we will have allied reports from parents and repairs in a few minutes. president trump's battle from century city's heating up. people at the berkeley campus are tippy to create a sanctuary door. talking details ahead. >> one day after a plea deal from lori loughin and reportedly claiming she did not know pain $500,000 in a phony usc courting scamp with breaking the law. her defense coming up. prime time begins right now. good evening i'm david asman. sanctuary cities across the country try their best to call president trump plus. mayor of rochester, new york, philadelphia, chicago just to name a few have all about to

take in and welcome any migrants trump's in their way. at the same time democrats are slamming trump's proposal as a legal and blasting the plan as political retribution. which is it, do these mayors want immigrants or is it illegal? how did the city's citizens feel about all this. former governor of new mexico, republican susanna martinez. great to see you. you got rid of new mexico's sanctuary status. why did you do and how did it go? >> i did. it was one of the first executive orders i signed as a governor of new mexico. and rescinded the sanctuary state status. i knew that we would become a magnet for illegal immigrants to come to new mexico especially part of the catch and release in the deficiencies of the law of immigration exist today. >> what do you think about this proposal. first of all the proposal by the president and then except if

proposal by a group of mayors who live in century city. there is an old expression, be careful of what you wish for. it might be said for both sides of this. >> it really is. sanctuary cities, the leadership and municipalities, what the leadership did was actually vote whether or not to become a century city or county. but they have a responsibility to respond in a way that provides health, food, hygiene, ensure safety of the people that are there within the communities, ensure safety of others that are not coming in illegally. but they are not prepared for the extreme numbers coming across. just last month over 100,000 individuals coming here illegally came to the united states. the systems are overwhelmed. these sanctuary cities are going to be exactly in the same situations of those communities importer right now.

>> as we remember very clearly just a couple of weeks ago it was the people, virtually all of the democratic contenders for presidency in 2020, said there was no problem. they said the president's suggestion that there was a crisis at the border was overwrought if not ridiculous. and there was no report under problem. now is a very different situation. now that they have waited so long that even they have to admit it's a crisis. but now they blame president trump for it. >> for me, that is so juvenile to blame the president for this issue when in fact the president has been extremely reasonable on how to approach the issue. democrats have been so extreme, the candidates have been so extreme. it goes to show how out of touch they are with the american people and what they want. what they want is congress to sit down and in 30 minutes if they truly had a sense of wanting to come up with a sens

conclusion to change immigration and asylum laws that is workable. >> host: does all of the show or prove that in fact they do not want a solution to the crisis. that they do what open borders and they are in a position so they think perhaps this will be the new constituency. although the illegal immigrants? >> guest: the constitution does not allow them to vote. it does not allow them to become citizens. the law right now is not efficient in the sense of making sure that those that do come, we welcome them to follow the process, to make sure that they are following a process to make sure that they have a long-term plan to be in the united states. right now they are crossing and there is a long term. whether it be a century city or border city where they are staying at homeless shelters,

gymnasiums, that is not a long-term plan. i am sorry but very few have real asylum claims. it is injustice to those people in those cases not going to court fast enough. instead they are being trained in their countries what to say, how to say it, and bring a child with you and then sometimes the child is separated from the adult that they come with and given to a sponsor and actually the systems are so saturated that they cannot help those families well enough. we had a case where 41-year-old was molesting for young girls and simply reported it to the school and said we are being molested by this man but he is threatening to deport and reported to the border patrol and deport people we love and care about and her family. those kinds of threats are real on a daily basis. as a prosecutor for 25 years i salt it all the time. >> host: these are people who are protected by sanctuary cities.

this is somehow supposed to be good for our country, for the immigrants et cetera. but these awful people are protected. we have to leave it at that. i could talk to you for hours. thank you for being here. 2020 democrats sounding off in the century city debate. cory booker said he thanks trump's proposal makes our country less safe. >> you think this is a threat by the president to talk about people from the border into the sanctuary cities. he likes to create friction sometimes to jumpstart the congress not active. >> i think he is putting americans against each other. >> you take the threats hearsay? >> he is injecting fear into our country. >> host: what did booker really mean by that. fox news contributor jenny bonelli and democrat strategist scott bolden. good to see you both.

in light of this author by century city mayors to let these people in this does not sound -- this sounds like they are working with century city mayors. >> the democrats can't have it both ways. cory booker, he said they are dangerous to american citizens. and when a lot of these illegal immigrants come into our country they are a magnet for them. they are to go there and they know they cannot be touched and they can stay in the country. it is absolutely outrageous. i hear you laughing scott. it's a serious situation. we cannot just go to another country and expected be taken care of. we are being spending untold amounts of money to get the medical care, food, these are our tax dollars that are being

used and who should come to our country legally. >> host: when you listen to governor martinez who is on the line on the border of governor for two terms. she was saying that she had to get rid of sanctuary city's because she saw the real result of increased crime a result of the sanctuary cities in the century state. what do you think? >> i don't know what you are listening to, i was not laughing. but the reality is, when i hear the former mayor. >> governor. >> governor forgive me. i think those are episodes but not endemic what the real crisis is about. the individuals coming from honduras and south america. i think there are episodes like

that but i don't think you can painted with a broad brush. the reality is, i am one of the few democrats that think we do have a crisis. the narrative of the crisis is generated by the president's policies. but the president cannot have it both ways either. he told us there's killers, murderers and gangs -- not on he told us there were these bad people and then he wants them in a complete opposite pool of what he told us the last two years pretty want to release them in the sanctuary cities like a pond and if they do violence the way he said he does why would he let them in america. >> i said last week on the show with the other guests and you and these individuals should be let into the neighborhoods of the democrats were sympathizing with them and they can see firsthand what is going on with these people on the streets. even share tweeted that we can't even take care of our homeless and veterans what are we going to do with these illegals. no one.

>> i have breaking news i'm sorry you have to interact. yuma, arizona has declared a state of emergency over migrant releases. the arizona mayor says my writ under migrants being released faster than being departed in shelters and staff to run them are at maximum capacity estat se emergency. >> it is a crisis and it always has been a crisis. you still have people with caravans coming into our country and what are we supposed to do that. the democrats do not want to act and they look at them as future voters. and this is outrageous and dangerous that they are taking this position. >> very quickly, i don't think that's a fair assessment at all. if were looking at it as voters. i think we have a crisis at the border, the president has driven the crisis but the reality is, we need both sides to come up with immigration reform,.

[inaudible] i will tell you something else to, the business in the country, that's the demand and that's why they keep coming. they want a better life for themselves prayed why are these businesses accepting these individuals. [inaudible] >> speaking of sanctuary cities, uc berkeley has now become a century campus. that is not enough for a lot of activists, now groups are lobbying studio government for century dormitory. what do you think the students parents are going to think of this if they know their kids are sleeping with migrants that they don't know the back runabout? >> now i am laughing. i don't know what to think. i don't know what a century dormitory is. i imagine their students enrolled who may have illegal immigration issues. in the university of college sanctuary, if it's beyond the i'm not sure --

>> the point is they are opening the dormitory to immigrants coming into i.c.e. wants to know about because it's a century dormitory. if i had my kid at uc berkeley i would not like that would you? >> i totally agree with you. what about their priorities. they are misguided. they should be there to learn and get educated and not get in to this political social issue like illegals housing them and providing services for them. >> absolutely right. >> is a college or university. -- >> is uc berkeley. >> thank you both. coming up the left demanding more from immediate release of robert bullard's probe report. now there were less than 48 hours than the drop is what some folks are doing. questioning the timing of the release. he details straight ahead. first a massive fire destroyed the notre dame cathedral in

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>> host: breaking tonight the fire that engulfed on notre dame cathedral appears. but assessing the unfathomable damage. vowing to rebuild the cathedral in five years. there was so much that was lost that can never be read place. but the miracle of the story is what did survive. molly is in paris and we thank you for being up with us. what is the latest. reporter: as you mentioned, hours after midnight there is light from the walls and towers. all was not lost as you mentioned, but very many questions that need to be answered. and they're working on the structural integrity. the integrity of the structure and investigators are seeking other answers and will be able to get in there into the historical and begin to working towards answering this.

the place, the working theory is that this fire was an accident linked to the reservation work on the surrounding structure. tours, onlookers took to the street again and some of them simply need to see the remains for themselves and others in despair. he says the work will be done swiftly vowing just five years. the families and friends have swiftly promised the equivalent of hundreds of millions of dollars. sandy and louis vuitton, the 69-year-old is the fourth richest person in the world and has pledged $226 million. the group also offered creative, architectural, and fundraising

on the other hand. the family of billionaire, including his wife actress. they on the luxury brand gucci among other holdings. and l'oreal has pledged as well. peerparis mayor will be unlockig unlocking 50 million eur. david: thank you very much. despite had a front catastrophic fire. a lot of the relics including the famous crown of thorns seen here were saved during the blaze. reaction from pastor of the holy family church in new york city. and a friend of mine for many years. great to see your father. thank you for being here. when you look at everything that survived i am wondering if

miraculous is the right word to use? >> is a good word david. i see the hand of god in the fact that father, the chaplain of the country paris saved the sacrament, the holy communion, he was able to remove that then he saved the crown of thorns and also a relic of the true cross. these pressures relics were at the church and then of course other artworks, paintings and statues were rescued. god is always at work even when we don't understand it. when this tragedy, he was certainly at work with the priest environment. david: frankly, you know paris very well. you are studying there. and you delivered masses in french if i'm not mistaken. it is a pretty secular place. it is become so ever since the french revolution.

it is had a lot of flirtatious of secularism. no more so now than $800 million has been raised by the private sector, the cup is being passed around and they could easily go over a billion dollars. i think that's miraculous in itself. don't you ? >> i think both historically and right now the soul of france is catholic. france does owe it so identity to the preaching of gospel. that's how the nation coalesced the french king and protectors of the church. you are right, the french revolution was a big moment of crisis and notre dame cathedral was turned into a secular place. it was restored in the 1800s. but the reality is, french people no catholicism is integral to the way france is an everyone believes and goes to church but they know notre dame has a mystical symbolism. it symbolizes something that goes right back into the origin of the french nation and for

believers, the house of god was destroyed but the faith stay strong. it was so great to see the shots of people praying, kneeling, singing, say the rosary, tragedy is a reminder to all of life has meant and whether it comes to violence or natural cause there is something beyond that, the life of heaven. david: when does the catholic church recognize that than any other time of the year then holy week. we see this fire, thankfully nobody died a lot of people thought it was the death of a beautiful cathedral. out of that has come this new life of faith or at least a reverence for a church which we haven't seen in france for years. >> during the french revolution it was it would've been happy if it would've burned down. they treated the catholic church as an enemy.

now people don't believe necessarily but to understand the catholic church as something important. it's in addition to being holy and sanctifying. and also humanize a society. it is a beautiful tribute. david: we should mention that a lot of people look at what happened yesterday and say how could it possibly rebuild. windsor castle back in 1992 had a terrible devastating fire and we're looking at it now. this is back in 1982. many people saw this. interestingly enough it was built in the 11th century. just as notre dame was built. there is a restoration effort and everybody thought it was a lost cause, 58 million dollars was spent in 1992, probably be $100 million today so for $100 million they were able to restore that counsel. not in duplicate of what it was but close. do they think they can do it with notre dame? >> i'm convinced that notre dame -- after st. peter's the second most famous church in the world. i think there will be a lot of

fundraising in this country in other places in europe. i am sure saudi arabia and places like that people would make appeals. at 13 million people a year visited notre dame. this is the focal point of human achievement in addition to being the house of god. i think they will rebuild. david: sometimes miracles start with tragedy. maybe this is one of those cases. father great to see you. coming up actress lori loughin on defense as she tries to minimize jail time for her role in the paid college scandal. wait till you hear the bazaar defense. first the left is demanding more from under demanding more from robert mueller's full russian report without reductions in other were 48 hours away from the release summer questioning the timing. we cannot win with these folks. details when we continue. >> there was no collusion and no obstruction. we never did anything wrong. the people that did something wrong with the other side, the

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>> the press conference thursday afternoon exactly as they did four weeks ago just before, the day before good friday. >> the latest possible before easter weekend been the right get the least amount of attention. david: they have picked the ease of good friday and passover. which could be assigned that william barr wants to use this process to play down the report adding into a friday holiday weekend rather than plato. >> it seems to democrats and liberal media cannot let go of the collusion claims. for nearly two years they claim collusion and the summary of

bullard's report said there was no evidence of collusion they demanded to see the full report immediately with note reductions. but now the full report is coming in there claiming the timing of his release is suspicious and they seem like they are grasping at straws. they're trying to paint a narrative what do you make of the timing. do you think there is anything suspicious about the timing. >> this is been the longest pregame show in american history. we did not even get a good tailgate to get ready for. the dems are grasping at everything that they can to try to keep this in the news and it is somewhat comical to think that whenever this report gets released, will be thursday, the media is going to take the weekend off because they want to go into easter and somehow everyone is become so biased that they're going to forget and

to forget this report and go home and spend it with her family. that is ludicrous to think about that. david: in the age of trump, there is no time off as far as the news goes. i have seen every holiday blowing through because of breaking news of some sort or another. >> it seems like there's a pattern in the trump administration. bad news falls on a friday or holiday weekend. it's consistent. >> i agree, there is no holiday for the trump administration. we can all have different opinions but we all have to have the same facts. the fact is the report was given to attorney general last month on the 22nd, it took him a month to give a redacted report before a holiday weekend. there is no denying that he is trying to spend it for the president, he is not the attorney general of the united

states protecting the constitution representing the american public. he was a lawyer for president trump. that is not what we need in order to move forward. >> president obama used for his attorney general, my wing man, that was the phrase wasn't it? my point is that it does happen. whether they are brother of a president as with the kennedys or the wing man with the attorney general for president obama. it does not matter. the fact is i'm wondering about the timing with regard to republicans. >> let's go to the conspiracy theory. it's going to be right before a holiday to dampen the news. let's welcome what monday, tuesday or wednesday of sad news. what monday into monday, tuesday or wednesday did carter used to announce bad news. carter announce bad news on fridays. there is no indication that that is what is going on here.

in fact, as we look at the federal system as to how prosecutions go, if there was a move towards a trial or a move towards motion we would be knowing that. there is no indication that any of that is happening. david: you would have to agree that rod rosenstein is a pretty independent observer. he is a lifetime department of justice guy. he was never accused during the mueller investigation of being on the side of donald trump. he was watching over everything mr. barr did in creating the memo. in analyzing the mueller report. are you calling rod rosenstein a trump monkey? >> rod rosenstein works for william barr who is the attorney general. >> he works for the attorney

general. he is -- that's the title. i agree that every past administration, every federal government in the past but bad news on friday. we can all agree to that. but there has not been an administration that has bad news every single friday in two and a half years of administration. yet 71 months of job growth in the economy you do today because of the obama administration. but president trump delivers bad news after bad news every single friday. david: the economy is doing great yes, i just wonder whether you think democrats are setting themselves up because with the expectation if in fact this thing is released, unredacted and still maybe, the president says he was the whole thing release. do you think the democrats might be setting themselves up for

failure again. already they failed to prove there is collusion with the russians based on the initial memo for mr. barr. >> here's what we know, no matter what the report says the trump administration will be wrong in the eyes of the democrats. rod rosenstein was a hero to democrats just a mere few weeks ago. we needed to pass a law to make sure the mueller investigation was going to get to go all the way to the end which it did. now it'll be something new. something new to protect the political flank and to keep their base fired up. no matter what the results are going to be. we will know the results in a few hours. david: weird he know what mr. barr is report that said the special counsel investigation did not find the trump campaign or anyone associated with conspired or coordinated with russia and its efforts to the 2016 presidential election. either there is a huge conspiracy between mr. barr and

mr. rosenstein or you have a big nothing berger is a president would say. >> we have not seen the report and we've only seen the book report from mr. barr. a four-page letter from a 400 page report. then he waited a month to put out a redacted report on a holiday weekend. i'll let them american decide how this looks. david: you gotta be careful what you wish for because if you get the unredacted report and it shows the same thing the memo did you're in trouble. good to see you both. thank you very much. coming up, 2020 presidential bernie sanders pushing policies like medicare and free college tuition but according to a new bipartisan study the policies will cost taxpayers more money. the shocking number of how much in speaking of socialist, wait till you hear what 2020 presidential candidate pete are

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>> having an argument over socialism and capitalism. socialism and democracy was almost same thing. if your for capitalism for democracy. david: capitalism's fault that the left favors socialism. if you bump in the polls and a lot more media attention. is this failure to call out the failure of socialism. i will turn off the more modern under moderate voters. economist donald.

>> thank you. david: i would've thought the main lesson of the 20th century, when you think of nazi germany which is national socialism, when you think of the communist parties in russia and the soviet union and all over eastern union, china, barbarism of socialism would outweigh some of capitalism. when you have thought that? >> you would certainly think so. but politicians have learned to cater to a culture of envy. they think capitalism has let some people happen. if you are in the audience for that statement, that means me. i was let down in some way. so i should vote for this guy and he will not let me down. i gotta tell you, no system is perfect. capitalism but some people down -- one system that is perfect, socialism. because it lets everybody down. so if what you want, you want socialism. david: again, i will call the blemishes of capitalism when you think of things like the 2009 crisis, there are moments in the

history of capitalism, particularly the united states when indeed there have been blemishes, problems that had to be dealt with. but you compare that to the bloodshed taken out in the name of socialism in all the countries that i just mentioned. the hundreds of millions, literally a couple hundred million people killed in the name of socialism. what is worse, there is no proportion here. >> i don't know. those were just little blemishes. we are learning by year. we should try socialism in the united states. we are so smart maybe we can get it to work. i've a great idea, i know who can make it work. the mayor of a little college town in indiana. how good is he, under his administration south bend, indiana canal claimed the same murder rate at chicago. you want equality, let's have

every city in america have that murder rate. the mayor can get it for you. murder for all. david: the problem with mayor p, he was aware that, serve seven months in afghanistan. it is not like you can dismiss him, it's easy to dismiss varney standards for various reasons. but he's a little tougher to crack. >> he is settled, he makes himself seem also reasonable. but let's not go by his demeanor. let's go by what he is actually saying. the famous thing, when people show you who they are, believe them. he is just another guy who is catering to the cancer of envy. the whole great thing about capitalism if you're jealous of the other guy, compete with them. nobody is stopping you, take them down. that is a virtue of capitalism. david: the nb is what does unite

a lot of the leftist with hard-core socialist because it's at the core of their policies and philosophies. he mentioned bernie sanders. i want to mention something else about him. he is a current leader of the pole among the 2020 democratic candidates. there is a partisan group this is the price tag for his policies could really be staggering. the committee for responsible budget they say they expect sanders proposal to cause $20000. american taxpayer. that is a huge number but frankly i thought it would be even bigger. >> it will be. because what happens under the socialist programs is smart people like the center, they figure out what is going to cost -based on what the socialists will deliver. the socialist attempt to deliver in damages the system and have to come back and issue all kinds

of regulations that are even more expensive to try to fix the system they broke. if it's 20000 is really 200,000. live with it, that's what it is. david: would be hard to manufacture a more inefficient system. i cannot imagine. human beings come up with this idea and we got a good system of capitalism and it's amazing somebody would go with the system that is proven wrong so many times. there it is. >> why would they, they are doing this because it maximizes their personal power and politicians. it is really easy to figure out. david: varney is a millionaire. great to see you. coming up, lori loughlin defending her role in the pay to play college scandal and she reportedly claims she was the victim in this massive scam. wait till you hear how she is trying to spin the story. this one you have got to hear. that plus more when we continue.

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david: knew tonight, not even 24 hours after lori loughlin rejected a plea deal in the massive nationwide college scam. a new report reporting she

actually thanks she is the victim and all this. she reportedly thought the $500,000 check she and her husband wrote to rick singer to get her daughters into usc might be breaking the rules but not the law. she feels she was manipulative. the couple could face up to 40 years in prison if convicted on all the charges. is this a smart defense tactic. ms. emert's joining me it's almost laughable for her to portray herself as a victim. what chance? >> that will not hold water in a court of law. it is ignorance of the law and no defense. that is what you're going to hear a prosecutor say in response. this is not a great defense strategy. i think some of the information coming out into the public might be to change the public narrative but if i am her lawyer and i am representing her behind-the-scenes this is absolutely not the route to go. it is laughable. it is not going to play too well

to a jury. david: it may not be her lawyer as much as her husband. he is the one who is apparently pushing the scenario. that they were the victims and they did not realize the charity that they were laundering money through to the sky rick singer. >> it makes me think that they don't necessarily understand how serious these charges are. david: probably not. a lawyer would have to be disbarred to not give them the details and severity of the crime. and possibly spending years in jail. >> sometimes you can counsel them and tell them what you believe they should do and they can still reject it because ultimately the client makes that choice. i think that they believe the prosecutor were bluffing. with the initial plea deal which as we know the prosecutors in this case said, we are not offering plea deals that do not include jail times.

all them have jail time attached. they rejected it and now they're faced with additional charges. the prosecutor's case is now -- there are more charges levied and therefore the previously discussed behind-the-scenes is going to include more times. they are in a very vulnerable position. when you have written communications, your phone calls and cooperating witnesses, the government, these prosecutors don't go for the indictment until they have a really buttoned up case. this is going to be something . david: it's not hearsay they have hard evidence. they better change your point of view. meanwhile, the indictment spoke of some of these people taking advantage and rick singer apparently guiding them along the way. taking advantage of affirmative action quotas. you fall soon the city because you want to fulfill a quarter. i'm just wondering if she could be called as a witness. >> great point, perhaps that

will be the next step. you bring up a great point that not only that, falsifying ethnicity, applications, pretending to have learning disabilities so there can be assistance or taking the sat privately for the furtherance of cheating on the test. these are really serious allegations. each case is going to be individually but the severity and the absolute entitlement of all, prosecutors are not taking this lightly. we see this, usually it's a mastermind of the scheme. that is who prosecutors are going for in the other people. singer flipped in september. and they continue to build cases against his people. david: why are these people not down on their knees begging for forgiveness. >> if you look at felicity huffman she handled it perfectly. she came out and was remotes will and she said she realized what she did was wrong and she's willing to for price. she is going to get very

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