lou: good evening, everybody. making america safe again, president trump laying out his plan to overhaul our broken borders, our broken immigration system and our broken borders. >> the proposal begins with the most complete and effective border security package ever assembled by our country. this plan was not developed i'm sorry to say by politicians. it was designed with significant input from our great law enforcement professionals to detail what they need to make our border, which is 100% operationally secure. lou: 100%, and the president's

proposal also introduces for the first time ever merit-based immigration and rooting out fraudulent claims of asylum. >> we must also restore the integrity of our broken asylum system. our nation has a proud history of affording protection to those fleeting government persecutions -- to those fleeing government persecutions. unfortunately, legitimate asylum seekers are being displaced by those lodging frivolous claims. these are frivolous claims to gain admission into our country. lou: and tonight we take a further look at the president's proposal. chair of the president's council of economic advisors kevin hasset, national border patrol union president brandon judd, congressman mark green, all among our guests tonight. also, for the first time since he took office, president trump

as the radical dems and the deep state reeling. the cartoonish obama era spy masters, james comey, john brennan, james clapper in profound jeopardy tonight in the face of the attorney general's investigations into the attempted overthrow of the trump presidency. the radical dems and the obama spy masters know they have been found out, and the cowardly spy masters are now blaming one another. mark simone among our guests tonight will take that up and also the latest entry into the radical dems presidential sweep stakes as tensions build in the middle east, saudi leaders calling on the united states to carry out strikes against iran for the drone attacks against a saudi pipeline. president trump says not so fast. general jack keane joins us here tonight as well. our top story, the president today presented his plan for

border security and merit-based immigration calling on the radical dems to either support it now or reap the repercussions in 2020. >> therefore some reason, possibly political, we can't get the democrats to approve this merit-based high-security plan, then we will get it approved immediately after the election when we take back the house, keep the senate, and of course hold the presidency. lou: but rino senator lindsay graham not awaiting his turn and talking out of turn. graham can be an odd sort of fellow and has no problem alternating his political support. sometimes for the president. sometimes for the dems. nearly always for k street and the koch brothers. today saying president trump must work with the democrats on the illegal immigrant issue. here's graham in curious

competition with the president's plan announcement today. >> we need democratic votes for something to become law. i can't imagine a solution to our immigration problems that doesn't deal with the 11 million, so logically this is uniting republicans around two strong pill lars, future immigration to be merit based, not family based, a strong border, that's what we're for, and for it to become law, you have to work with democrats. lou: our first guest tonight advised president trump on the economic impact of the new immigration proposals, potentially generating as much as 600 billion dollars in gdp. joining us tonight is kevin hasset the chairman of the president's council of economic advisors, and it is great to have you with us, kevin. >> great to be here. lou: this proposal, you had an important part to play in its

formulation. the idea that an immigration plan, a border security plan could generate economic growth, that's a fascinating concept and i think perhaps an unheard of economic impact statement on a border plan, an immigration plan in the country's history. >> right, well, you know, the president as you know all the way back to the campaign has said that we need to switch to a merit-based system. and he was right. he also said, you know, the politicians didn't design this plan. well, he's a politician. he was in the middle of it all, but he did tell the border security guys to give him their best advice, and on the legal immigration side, he told us that at the council of economic advisors to look at best practices around the world and think about what immigration plan could maximize economic growth here in the u.s. we think if the president's plan became law, that it would add about 2% to gdp -- lou: we've had some sort of technical problem breaking the

line. >> -- the helicopter behind me, i think. lou: that helicopter must have interrupted our signal. we apologize to our audience and to you. >> you can hear me now? lou: i sure can. >> the point is the president instructed us to examine best practices around the world and to present, you know, ideas about how we could maximize economic growth, maximize the welfare of blue-collar workers create the most jobs with immigration reform. we moved as he said since the campaign to a merit-based system that we think will really take the economy from the level we're at to a higher level. lou: as you're talking, it just strikes me over the two decades of intense -- well, intense opposition in the public arena on the ideas of impact of illegal, legal immigration. we're starting to actually see some empirical evidence that security makes sense, that controlling immigration makes

sense, but not only in the interest of the nation's sovereignty and security, but economically, and that is a stride forward and i want to compliment you and the president for doing so. >> thank you. lou: let's also turn to the idea that this president for the first time would have 100% border security. >> right. lou: is that the condition p precedent to quote unquote immigration or is it a contemporaneous process that we could expect? >> i think what we put forward were two pillars today. you heard senator graham who you were critical of -- lou: yes i was. >> but he said these are two great pill lars. he is right. it is an important pillar -- lou: he also wanted to negotiate, kevin, if you are going to bring this up, one of the things that a senate judiciary committee might consider with his background and checkered it is and who he supports and what he supports, i

hope that kevin can still hear me because this is so important -- >> i can still hear you, yeah. lou: -- for you to hear. he is competing with the president, and he's anticipating a negotiation -- he's doing more than anticipating a negotiation with the radical dems, he's encouraging it and effectively demanding it, at the same time as you are putting out your plan, i know you are a nice guy, the president is a nice guy. i'm not a nice guy. >> you are a nice guy. lou: i think he's being an absurd irritant and unnecessary one in what you all are trying to do which is a serious proposal to create border security and a rational immigration plan. i think the senator needs to wait his turn. >> well, you know, i don't want to talk about the senator. you know i can't do that. the thing i want to say, though -- lou: i'm glad you didn't bring it up then. >> our immigration system is totally broken; right? right now if you are a kid in

kenya and say i want to go to the u.s. and have a better life, it is impossible to figure out what to do. you have to hire lawyers. there's 100 different visas. under the president's plan, you can go to a website. it says hey if you take a civics test, if you speak english and maybe you have to get some vocational education then you have enough points so you can get in. we think that what we do is we make this the land of opportunity again. lou: and again, the issue of security, security becomes a condition precedent for these immigration changes. >> yeah, that's right. that's right. because if you don't have strong borders, if you don't have security, then it doesn't matter what laws you have. so if you don't do pillar one, then pillar two is really irrelevant. that's the point you are driving at, and it is true. lou: and it is effectively immigrant neutral in the numbers at least. >> correct. lou: and that's encouraging and has not been a suggestion before, and to be merit based, my gosh, i mean, this is -- i

expect hallelujah choruses around the white house for coming up with this proposal. it is a terrific beginning. we know the process, and if we didn't know that the process was going to be at times intense, we wouldn't need -- we wouldn't need senator graham to remind us. kevin, thank you very much for being with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. lou: good luck with all of this. >> thank you. lou: thank you. up next how president trump's immigration proposal is playing with the men and women who protect our border. we're joined by the head of the border patrol's union. also the new controversial tool to grade college sats by adding another score that the parents have to worry about. the country is a little riled up about this one. there's something about consolidating power, whether it's political, economic, or academic. and that's what they are doing. and we'll see how that's playing. stay with us. that and much more right after

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lou: house speaker nancy pelosi today saying that neither she nor the radical dems have denied the crisis at our southern border. >> well, let me just say this,

we have never not said that there was a crisis -- there's a humanitarian crisis at the border and some of it provokes by the actions taken by the administration. lou: provokes actions taken by the administration. if that's an explanation as to why the radical dems are not looking to the national interest and doing something about the national emergency, well, good luck to her. good luck to us. pelosi conveniently forgot the dozens of times that she condemned president trump's national border emergency. >> the president's manufactured crisis. the president decided that he imagined or whatever, the mythology of a crisis at the border. president trump must stop holding the american people hostage. let's stop manufacturing a crisis. mr. president, the evidence of what's happening there does not support the crisis that you describe. lou: if you could understand everything she said, you were

way ahead of me. but it was denial of the crisis and the national emergency. border patrol arresting a honduras man. he tried to cross illegally across our border, with a six month old infant, an infant that wasn't his. the man was caught smuggling that baby near texas. the child has been transferred to the custody of the department of health and human services for placement. joining us tonight is the president of the national border patrol council, brandon judd. brandon has voluntarily deployed to assist the rio grande valley sector of the border and first, i want to compliment you for doing so. i know that it's an act of leadership, but it is also one that you did not have to take. and i just want to say congratulations to you, and i've got to believe that all of the agents you represent feel very good about the fact. what is your -- i'm sorry, go ahead, brandon. >> well, i appreciate that. i get to wear two hats.

i get to put on a uniform. i get to go out and patrol the border and actually see what's going on, and then i get to put on the political hat as well and go and try to do what's best for the american public. but when you look at the crisis that we currently face, and you look at what nancy pelosi said, she made a statement and she did not back it up with any evidence. and that's what we see too often. when you look at this crisis, and when you look at what this president is dealing with, he is telling congress right now you can get on board with me, you can be part of the solution, and if you're not, i'm going to put you behind me and i'm going to use the authorities that i currently have, and i'm going to fix the crisis myself. and that's exactly what he's doing when he comes up with plans. when you think about training border patrol agents to start the asylum process immediately, giving border patrol agents the authority to conduct credible fear interviews, these are types of outside of the box thinking

that the american public knew that they were going to get when they elected him the president. frankly it is these types of things that are going to help us secure the border, regardless of whether congress is behind him or not. lou: yeah, as a matter of fact, i frankly -- i think the president as i said earlier in the broadcast, he's a nice guy, much nicer than me. i would have already said adios to the congress. you've made your choice. live with it. we'll see you in 2020 at the ballot box, and you're going to get crushed. the idea of moving these immigration judges talking about this with former acting i.c.e. director, mark morgan previously about interior enforcement, all of a sudden we have got some people talking about innovative ways to take responsibility, to own this crisis, and not whine about congress, not wait on, you know, possible developments, but deal with what we've got. that's the american way, innovate, change, adapt, and

absolutely deal with the issue in front of us. >> and you look at it, and he's listening to people that have been there, that have done that. you're talking about tom homan, the former i.c.e. ero director, mark morgan, an fbi who was at the top of this investigative level who frankly in an investigative position is as good as you are going to get, great person for i.c.e., frankly i would take him as my cbp commissioner in heart beat if i could. if you look at this and who the president is relying upon and who he is listening to, he's listening to right people at the right time to address this issue and frankly we're going to get it done. lou, i watch you even when you were with cnn, and used to beat this drum and shine a spotlight on this issue. one day and i really believe this is true, you're going to come on tv and you're going say we actually secured the border, and that's what i think is going to happen, and i think we're

working towards that direction and we're going to make it happen. lou: well, i appreciate that. i think you are exactly right. i believe this president is the country's only, not just simply the last best chance, the only chance this country has to get this border secure, to get our immigration system rational and right, and assure that this country's values are preserved. we are a nation that has always welcomed immigrants, on our terms. >> yes. lou: not on theirs. >> he's doing the right thing. lou: we have always welcomed those seeking asylum who truly are desperate for security and sanctuary. we've always as a nation lived with open arms, but we have never our boarders overrun in the history of this country till now. >> he roll out the plan today and it was a sound plan. it would be a plan that would be accepted on a bipartisan basis if it didn't have the trump name

behind it, just because the democrats dislike him so much. this is a great plan. it is a plan that could secure the border, but frankly, lou, if congress doesn't get behind him on it, oh, well, he's going to continue to push within the authorities that he has to do what he needs to do. i'm on the border on a very regular basis. i put that uniform on. i love patrolling the border. i see what the agents want to do, and the president is behind those agents in trying to get that done. lou: i want to ask you on those agents, right now, because of all of the duties they have that contend with because of the surge of dealing with apprehensions of a million illegal immigrants, we're being told by some that we're talking about 75% of those agents are not on the border right now actually involved at other functions, activities, jobs and responsibilities. is that about right? >> it is about 50%. it's in different places.

you are right, that's way too many. we have to have those people on the border. you have to understand that's what the cartels are doing. these people are extremely intelligent. this is a very big business. make no mistake, although it is an illegal business, it is still a business. they are profit driven. what they know what they have to do is they have to pull my agents out of the field to create these gaps in the border to where they can run their higher value products right behind us, and that's what they are doing. when they throw these people across the border and literally they do and they're seeking asylum, they are taking the agents out of the field so they can create those gaps, and if we don't have the proper intelligence, and we don't have the sound operations, they are going to beat us every single time. lou: brandon judd, always good to talk with you and always learn something. appreciate it. >> thank you. lou: brandon judd. the organization that oversees the sat test has got new plans for america, planning to assign an adversity score to

every student who takes it. the college board says they will use that number to help understand student's social and economic backgrounds, using factors like crime and poverty rate in the student's high schools and neighborhoods. the scores will be offered to 150 colleges this fall before expanding the program next year. are you wondering what voted on this? -- are you wondering who voted on this, who decided this? well, it is the college board deciding for all of us. isn't that wonderful? including the colleges that our kids and our grand kids would like to one day attend. still ahead, the battle over abortion is escalating. another state moves to enact a strict new law that prohibits abortion. that's right, abortion, not choice because choices are being made on all sides of the issue. plus president trump takes on mayor big bird or wrong way bill is what we call him here in new york. bill de blasio is the latest. >> i can't believe it.

i just heard that the worst mayor in the history of new york city and without question the worst mayor in the united states is now running for president. it will never happen. i'm pretty good at predicting things like that. i would be very surprised to see him in there for a long period, but it is just not going to happen. lou: not going to happen. we have to find out what's really going on here with mayor big bird or whatever you want to call him. we're bringing in the big artillery on de blasio. mark simone joins us. he has very interesting insight into all of this. you will love it. we're coming right back. ♪

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lou: breaking tonight and it's appropriate since the president of the united states is in new york at a fund raiser, the republican national committee is feeling the trump effect and enjoying another record breaking month of fund-raising. the rnc raising almost 16

million dollars in april. the party also has almost 35 million on hand and no debt at all. in stark contrast to what's going on with the radical dems. today's rnc announcement comes as new york's mayor bill de blasio has actually become the 23rd presidential candidate. you may have thought the republicans were out of their minds in 2016 but the dems are going a whole new place. and president trump welcoming him with this tweet tonight. quote, bill de blasio is the worst mayor in the history of new york city. he won't last long, and the president as usual is on point, according to a poll. i love this poll. 76% of new yorkers, new york city voters don't want to see bill de blasio run for president in 2020. and if you get the idea that's because they want him to stay in

new york, no, he's term limited, and he's done. and apparently so are all of the 76% of the new yorkers who plan to vote. joining us tonight is wwor radio personality mark simone, great to have you with us. i mean, 23 candidates, another one bill de blasio jumps in. and the city is snarling at the prospect that he will run. what's going on here? >> first of all, the president is right. he's worst mayor we have ever had. his main accomplishment he's turned the whole place into homeless camp. he's opened homeless camps on park avenue, trying to put one next to carnegie hall. how did he get re-elected he's the key of donors, democratic donors, the big money guys, they love him. they all have his cell number. lou: why do they love him? >> his main problem is --

lou: as long as they put a sufficient contribution? >> it goes to a pac. the man is not personally corrupt. he's not taking any, but he's assembling a huge pack of money and he's term limited out. how do you raise money now? by running for president. lou: the plot both thickens and is now more obvious. >> we have massive real estate developers in new york and they all need dozens of permitting, zoning, all kinds of variances and they don't blink at giving 200,000 to a presidential campaign. lou: how do you think he will do? he doesn't show up in any polls. people aren't anticipating his arrival as the 2020 hopeful. >> he will do great. he won't get a single vote but that pac will have 5 million in it pretty soon and you won't able to get the smile off his face. lou: this is basically a scam? >> he's not the only one. lou: i wouldn't suggest that. we're in new york city for crying out loud, mark, he's

certainly not the only one. but what i'm saying to you is he is just running to raise a little money and get comfortable with the bank account in the pac. >> he's running to raise a lot of money. and he will. and if we pass the law, this is the law we need, if you lose, you don't win. all the money gets returned. that should be the law. you can hang on to this money forever. lou: but if you do that, you won't have 23 radical dems running for president. and then we wouldn't have this much fun. >> both parties have lost control. if they had control, they would have stopped donald trump. they didn't want him. he was going to disrupt their game. he got control of the republicans. the democratic party, they have no control anymore. lou: that's a good thing. >> well, but if they did, they would keep it down to six or seven candidates. lou: i would rather see 23 and none of them be worth a darn than to have six or seven none

of whom are worth a darn but are representing the establishment of either the democratic or republican party. think about that. if we had had a limitation, it is likely that president trump wouldn't be president because of all the establishment nonsense that goes on. i think this is a -- i'm not ready for this reform. i don't want a law passed. i want it to go just this way. i like seeing it this way. >> i love the democratic circus. the podium company loves it. they never had to make 24 podiums for one night. [laughter] lou: think about the floor managers for all of the networks trying to figure out what they are going to do with the cameras. i mean, this is going to be so much fun. i can't wait. >> people forget, de blasio was one of hillary's campaign managers for years. lou: that explains her great success. >> but he learned how to raise money. he learned how to put together a pac. lou: so did she. has anyone figured out how they med so much money? it is really interesting, the

clintons i mean. >> we know how they made -- again, like these democrats in new york, pay for play. as soon as they didn't have any power to pass around, no money's coming in. lou: did the clinton foundation have anything to do with that? do we think we should investigate that? >> amazing taking in hundreds of millions a year, as soon as she's not secretary of state, $1.50 every year. it is funny how that works. lou: thanks for the insight. this is a hoot. who would have dreamed that the democrats would so quickly overtake the republicans of 2016? 23 candidates. mark simone is going to give us the lowdown on each and every one of them in the weeks ahead. right? >> the only debate where we will use the bleachers for the candidates. lou: that's probably about what it will be. [laughter] lou: thank you very much, appreciate it. mark simone. restrictive abortion laws, wow, spreading all across the country, setting up. what is their purpose? to set up a supreme court challenge to roe v. wade. missouri state senate passing a

bill today that would outlaw abortion at 8 weeks of pregnancy with the state seemingly on track to pass that legislation, they would join the six other states that have passed abortion restrictions this year. there are also eight other states now considering abortion restrictions of some fashion. this is suddenly -- it is without a question a wildfire of legislation suddenly upon us. and the issue of pro-choice abortion or life is also upon us. we're going to see what happens next, very soon. up next, dems and rinos alike pressuring the president for information on his plans for iran. we take that up and much more with general jack keane, right after the break. stay with us.

lou: the gang of eight congressional leaders today received a classified briefing on iran after radical dems and rinos alike cried foul demanding answers from the white house and the pentagon on the iran threat. >> the confusion coming from our allies simply shows the need for the white house and the pentagon to brief congress. the american people have been kept in the dark. it is disgraceful and despicable that we're on the verge of war?

and the american people are given this kind of confused and chaotic picture. >> i would tell the administration you should pick up the phone and call members of congress so that we don't have a microphone put in our face asking us about why you are doing something when we have no clue. lou: the senate will receive a classified briefing on iran next tuesday. meanwhile, saudi arabia blaming iran today for a drone attack on one of its pipelines as well as the attack on four oil tankers over the weekend. as a result, they called on the united states to, quote, hit iran hard with punitive airstrikes. while the radical left is hysterical with talk of war, a new report suggests president trump explicitly told acting defense secretary patrick shanahan he doesn't want war with iran. joining us tonight, retired four star general fox business chief strategic analyst general jack keane.

general, good to see you. it's remarkable to see blumenthal and graham doing the bipartisan thing and whining like babies about what they know or don't know about a national security issue that frankly isn't on their committee -- of their committee list. >> yeah, members of the senate intelligence community have been briefed already as the house intelligence committee has as well. look, let me see if i can help our viewers understand what's happening here in terms of setting the table. lou: and me too. >> we got some good words used credible specific intelligence. what does that mean? translation is likely multiple sources and reliable sources bring the government to that conclusion. what do you mean by multiple sources? satellite is a source. saw something taking place. in terms of preparation, maybe missiles being put on boats or

ships because we're bringing patriot missiles in there which is designed to defend against that as well as cruisers. second thing is what other kind of sources? well, we have human intelligence sources, and we have signals intelligence sources where we monitor conversations. lou: our own as well as our allies? >> and our human intelligence sources are maybe informants on the ground or so called spies. i suspect one of those other sources has kicked in and made it very reliable in terms of intent. in other words, you see preparation, missiles on ships, now they hear someone communicating to someone else the intent to do something. that is why it's so credible in terms of intelligence. lou: i still have enough confidence in our government that when the president of the united states orders a carrier strike force into the arabian sea because of a credible threat, you know, i take our

national security, our president at his word. what is interesting are the number of people who are sitting here talking about fake news as the president described it, 120,000 troops to the region. the president saying in front of god and everybody, i don't want war. i believe him. do you? >> oh, yeah. so we're bringing in a carrier strike group, patriot battery missiles and bombers in. what's the reason for that? two reasons, one, to deter the iranians from doing anything, letting them know, one, we know what you're up to and two we're serious if you do something, we are going to react to it. that's what that mission is all about. i think what's happened here is when the president and his national security team meets, lou, they go through a whole range of options against whatever the threat is that they have. and one of those is do we respond measuredly, deliberately, overwhelmingly to

convince them never to do it again? all those options would be laid out for the president to see with all the risks associated. then another big question, if the intelligence is so good right now, should we conduct a preemptive attack on them now? that likely would be discussed with the risk associated with it. i would not recommend that if i was there, but it gets discussed. lou: sure. >> and then it spins off into the media because people -- lou: because somebody wants to leak it out and look like a big shot with inside knowledge. >> yeah, and it is unfortunate that the president can't meet in the situation room, top-secret compartmentalized information. lou: i have to believe a lot of folks share my concerns about how is it that we are seeing more leaks from the white house and other departments and agencies, but more leaks against this president than any we have seen in history? no president in history has done

more and better than this president in the oval office. and it's outrageous. on one level, i simply don't understand why it is not technologically possible to stop that sort of nonsense. >> well i think it is possible to get after it. it is also hard to find. but i think if you really went after it quite a bit, people would understand that you are serious. but it is fundamentally a lack of loyalty. i mean, you take an oath. you are serving the country. if you disagree with the president -- lou: then get the hell out. >> first of all, tell him, and this president i know for a fact and you do as well, he accepts that disagreement, and then he will challenge it and so called sharpen his pencil a little bit. lou: yeah. >> so we're not going to war over iran, lou. that's a fact. okay? we may -- if they hit us, we will strike back, and we'll strike back -- lou: as we would any country.

>> of course. lou: as always, general, it is great to have you here. >> good to talk to you, lou. lou: thank you very much. up next the koch brothers crying foul over the president's tariffs on chinese goods. the koch brothers, they say tariffs hurt the american people. you didn't know that the koch brothers spoke for the american people, did you? right here on lou dobbs tonight you learned that. frustrated "game of thrones" fans take action. we will tell you how they want to take action and the result they want. this is important. that's why you will hear about it first here tonight. we will be right back. stay with us.

lou: a major spoiler alert for "game of thrones" fans. stand by here we go. the last season of the epic show will not be remade. however, disappointed and upset fans are signing a petition called remake "game of thrones" season 8 with competent writers on change.org. more than 600,000 angry fans have signed the petition so far. they are apparently so upset with the direction that the final season is taking that the final -- they want it all redone

now, perhaps before the final season is shown. that will be this sunday. this may be too little too late for them. groups linked to the multi-billionaire vastly wealthy koch brothers taking on president trump over tariffs. the koch brothers are never satisfied. they feel they were so rightly elected to represent america that they need to push the president around a bit, ignoring the need to slash growing trade deficits, americans for prosperity, that's funded outfit by the koch brothers, you know, the president who actually provides prosperity doesn't have anything with a name like that. well, they are demanding an end to all tariffs. the initiative claims tariffs are hurting hispanic americans. this is how stupid the conservatives, the koch brothers and their like have become. of course the hispanic unemployment rate in this

country is at a new all time record, record low, just last month. the koch brothers are not only tone deaf and awash in money and attacking the president, they are doing so oblivious to the reality that is a prosperous america, like we have seldom seen. well, joining us tonight is congressman mark green, a member of the house oversight committee, the homeland security committee, the house freedom caucus, and congressman green is a very busy fellow. good to have you with us. >> good to be with you, lou. thanks for having me on the show. lou: i got to ask you, koch brothers, the chamber of commerce, the business roundtable, wall street, do you just tell those folks to go to hell? and if you don't, would you please? >> well, you know, i think the president actually agrees with them. we want free trade -- lou: he doesn't agree at all, congressman.

are you kidding? >> he does. he wants fair trade. lou: he wants fair trade, reciprocal trade, balanced trade and you tell all the idiots on capitol hill which there are many that there isn't room in this country for free trade because it's cost us 5 trillion dollars in economic growth over the past 20 years with china alone. let's get it straight here. >> yeah, the president himself has said he is for free trade, but when -- lou: the president himself has said he is a fair trader for balanced trade, reciprocal trade, balanced trade around the world. >> yeah, we're saying the same thing, lou. lou: let's say it together. i spell what he says fair. >> yes. lou: you may get him confused with larry kudlow who gets a little confused about who he's working for from time to time. because i respect the hell out of you, i want you to understand very clearly the president is a

fair trader. his policies are fair trade. otherwise we wouldn't be going through this exercise. >> absolutely. if china is not going to give, you know, even fair trade with us or free trade, then, yeah, it is fair trade. i think that's where we are with china right now. your word fair trade with china is exactly where he is then's where i am -- and that's where i am. lou: good because this is a time in which he's dealing against -- >> oh, yeah, they are not being fair. they are disingenuous. >> they are stealing our technology, stealing half a million dollars a year from us. i'm sorry? >> it is beyond that. it is military secrets. it is high-tech stuff. absolutely agree with you 100%. lou: the president is actually -- by the way, and lloyd blankfein the former ceo of goldman sachs agreeing with the president on this issue even

as wall street is trying to, you know, press their book and cite as much volatility as they can for their trading purposes as well as their political purposes. >> sure. lou: i mean i give blankfein credit. i give jamie dimon the head of the largest bank in the country jm morgan chase credit he's coming around to talk about the necessity of these tariffs to achieve fair balance reciprocal mutual trade. >> that's right. lou: you get the last quick word. >> no, it is a great opportunity i think the president is taking a stand. you know, when he pushes back on china, it is also the same as pushing back with north korea. those messages are the same. we have a strong president. and it's important to take america first. lou: congressman mark green, thanks.

lou: president trump today unveiling his merit based immigration plan putting border security first. as well as economic beneficial results. >> an immigration plan that puts jobs, wages and safety of american workers first, our proposal is pro-american, pro-immigrant and pro-worker, it is just common sense, it will help all of our people including millions of devoted hi immigrans to achieve the american dream. lou: that is it for us, thank you.

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