lou: good evening everybody. president trump up against a resistance but it is not the radical dems who are the problem. it's the rino republicans standing in the president's path. senator lindsay graham informing the president he must be willing to work with the dems to pass his immigration agenda. mitch mcconnell offering the president only if you can call it support tepid support. the president needs to forget about fighting with the radical dems for a time and take on the obstruction within his own party. and the department of homeland security seems to be out of control. the department searching for companies to help with the release, proposed release of

hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants into american cities. the dhs plans standing in direct conflict with the president's america first agenda, the will of the american people, and expresses some lack of confidence in a secure border becoming a reality. attorney general wibarr speakin about his efforts to uncover the corrupt conspiracy to overthrow the trump presidency. >> i think people need to figure out what the government was doing during that period. if we're worried about foreign influence, for the same reason, we should be worried about whether government officials abused their power and put their thumb on the scale. so i'm not saying that happened, but i'm saying that we have to look at that. lou: the attorney general talking with bill hemmer. all star line up here tonight, ed rollins, sebastian gorka

among our guests. president trump expressing optimism that the democratic party may actually back his immigration plan. he tweeted this the democrats now realize there is a national emergency at the border and if we work together, it can be immediately fixed. we need democratic votes and all will be well. the president's fight however may not just be with the dems certainly. take a look at the rino resistance he faces within his own party. senator lindsay graham first among them, lecturing the president on what to do with his immigration plan. the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, the only person in congress with the power to push the president's plan forward, not backing the president, issuing instead a feeble statement that reads in part, quote, we are a nation of immigrants, and we must preserve that rich part of who we are. but we are a nation of laws, he

ultimately acknowledges. i look forward to reviewing the president's proposal. joining us tonight former reagan white house political director fox business political analyst ed rollins. ed, let's talk first about the rollout. the president talking about democrats as if they were now willing to ignore everything that pelosi and schumer have said over the course of the past month or so. what makes you of it? >> well, my sense is there's some positive things in the rollout and there's long-term democrats aren't going to cooperate at the end of the day. they're not going do anything to increase the border security and the wall that's very critical. republicans are going to be all over the place, as we see. and my sense -- lou: dead on arrival, period. >> i think pelosi is probably predicting what our members are going to do, particularly in the house. the senate obviously is not going to carry the ball by itself. the key thing here is why this is out and certainly has some goals in it, the president can't

take his eye off the ball and he won't take his eye off the ball in building that wall and dealing with the problem right today which he has to do by executive order and everything else. if he doesn't do that, he tries to get legislation, spends a lot of time and energy doing that, the temptation is there to get distracted. lou: let's look at the full screen of mitch mcconnell's statement today. this part i would like you, if you would, to analyze for us. the majority leader saying quote, we are a nation of immigrants and we must preserve that part of who we are, but we are a nation of laws, look forward to reviewing the president's proposal. the last sentence seems to me to suggest he wasn't part of the construction of that proposal. he didn't -- he wasn't part of the buy-in that apparently was being sought by the white house. and we are as people are often reminded as a nation of immigrants. these platitudes are really poorly placed at a time where we're trying to fashion a way

forward on immigration, border security and to deal with frankly ameritocracy in our immigration system. >> obviously jared kushner ran this show along with steve miller who is really the expert. the mistake is always you have to get through the congress and you don't have anybody in the congress there basically buying off some of the -- you know, i don't mean the gang of six, gang of eight or anything like that, or letting the democrats run with it, but at the same time putting something out there that's dead on arrival is not in president's best interests unless it is talking points for his campaign. i think jared doesn't understand the hill, how it works. the goals are good objectives. long-term, they should be there. let's not take our eye off the ball. we have a serious problem today. until you enhance the border security and continue the commitment to the men and women who are holding back the line, you are never going to get

anything. lou: the idea that a government cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, to put it in corny terminology, is a disaster waiting for the president. that border has to be secured. >> right. lou: the interior enforcement has to be carried out against the hundreds of thousands of people who are sitting under court orders requiring their removal from the united states. this is madness because it is -- it operates as a magnet as you are trying to create a polar opposite in policy on immigration. >> the idea of taking people who have basically come across the border and have a court date two years, three years down, going to move them around the cities, around the country is absolutely absurd. we have to stop them at the border, send them back them until they get cleared which may never happen. you're just inviting people to come, get your pass, go in and -- lou: yeah -- >> it doesn't work. lou: nothing is happening as a result of the 9th circuit court supporting the president's policy on remain in mexico.

there is no announced public response to that order, when it should be going forward as a part of policy and being implemented, and i mean now, by the new leadership at dhs, if indeed it turns out that's what it is. let's turn to flynn. the white house -- former white house national security advisor michael flynn, now a couple of things, one under surveillance much sooner than we thought he had been. and secondly, much more cooperative with the special counsel than had been previously recognized. why was the president in your judgment kept in the dark here? >> well, he never should have been kept in the dark. the fbi should have -- especially after he had been elected, they should have sat down with him and said here's what's going on. president obama and he had a long session and apparently obama had said don't hire flynn but didn't give any reasons. lou: but they didn't say your national security advisor

designate is under investigation by the fbi. >> and equally as important james baker who has been running around all the shows the last few days said they didn't have any evidence on him, that basically the investigation hadn't gone anywhere and they kept it open after he met with the russian ambassador. lou: these people are lying through their teeth. let's start right there. this is all rationalization. it is all creative construction of events that we know precisely where they were headed. >> right. lou: they meant to entrap a president and overthrow him. >> no ifs ands or buts about that, the reality is the president has had to fight for two years now to basically keep moving forward, and he has. no president has ever had this kind -- and i lived through watergate, no president has ever been under this kind of scrutiny and distraction. he has done a superb job. lou: i will not diminish watergate and -- >> no, no. lou: this is so much more

profound, for it not to be resolved means that the democratic party has been in league with the people who have been covering up either directly, indirectly. >> no question about it. lou: over the course of two and a half years. >> i have to think someone at the top level of the white house, whether the president or susan rice or somebody basically signed off on all of this. lou: we know the communications between strzok and page suggest that it was the white house and it's pretty clear who at the white house had the authority to compel the actions that were taken by these politically corrupt members of the fbi and department of justice leadership. ed rollins, as always, good to have you here. >> thank you. have a great weekend. lou: you too. still ahead, president trump having fun today, taking apart the agenda of the 2020 radical dems presidential hopefuls. >> they have 25 people now running for the office of president, and some of these

people are stone cold crazy. they have 100 trillion dollars green new deal. nobody has any idea what the hell it is. they know that you can't take a plane anymore. you have to take a train to hawaii. a train. [laughter] >> a train to australia and a train -- hey, if they can't build from san francisco to los angeles -- [laughter] >> what's going to happen when they say let's build a train to europe? lou: also tonight, why "game of thrones" could cause millions of americans to call in sick monday. i'm not saying they will, could, just could. we will have much more on that, right after this quick break. stay with us. i needed legal advice for my shop. that's when i remembered that my ex-ex- ex-boyfriend actually went to law school, so i called him. he didn't call me back! if your ex-ex- ex-boyfriend isn't a lawyer, call legalzoom and we'll connect you with an attorney. legalzoom. where life meets legal.

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transport 225,000 illegal immigrants to shelters across the country in some number of years, in the future. i.c.e. is looking to hire a contractor to transport 60,000 immigrants each year. i.c.e. also being criticized for releasing nearly 10,000 illegal immigrants into the united states over just the past eight days. they should be criticized. this is irresponsible and it is beyond dumb. between may 6th and may 13th, i.c.e. has released more than a thousand illegal immigrants a day into society. most were released in texas, arizona, and california. joining us tonight, dr. gorka, radio host, author, former strategist to president trump, and it is great to see you, my friend. thanks for being here. you can't make up what is happening right now to this administration. this story about i.c.e.

contracting 225,000 immigrants to be transported by a contractor to be named based on i guess bidding. your thoughts? >> look, this is outrageous, if you look at the figures that are coming officially from those inside i.c.e. and dhs that are allowed to make the statements publicly. half of the time of the cbp agents on the border is used to baby sit and look after illegal immigrants. these are the people who are charged, they are given a badge, a gun, and a uniform to protect the national sovereignty of our borders and to catch criminals, to catch illegal aliens and now we're -- i mean, look, the democrats don't want to fix this and it looks like members of the swamp inside the system that are doing everything they can to stymie the president. lou: it's also very clear that it's -- that the resistance within the rino wing of the republican party --

>> yes. lou: it is more than a wing. it is almost the entire bird. without the part of the cohesion and unity, this becomes next to impossible. it looks like the proposition is on the part of the trump white house to assure that the republicans come together and bring in the democrats. but now the president is say the democrats are willing to join them. what do you make of it? >> well, all i know is that, lou, yesterday the president presented a very, very reasonable common sense plan. you know, when normal average americans hear that only -- less than 16% of people coming into our country legally come based upon merit, that we still have a lottery for diversity. we have to shut this down. if australia, lou, if canada, can have incredibly stringent merit-based immigration

structures, so can we. and the idea that the majority, you're right, it is the majority of the bird, it is not the wing, it is the fuselage, it is half of the plane or more is not behind the president after 50 years of not reforming the system, it's scandalous, lou. lou: well, and all the more scandalous because this is a historic president already. what he's accomplished in two and a half years is unparalleled, and -- >> it's remarkable. lou: for if you will the mcconnell elements of the party, the k street governed elements of the republican party, not to be on board with this president from jump street is outrageous. and it's as if the ghost of paul ryan hangs other not only the house but the senate. >> yeah, but i asked exactly this question from the president recently and he said very graciously, surprised me, he said, you know, sebastian, they

are more supportive than you would think. okay maybe, but from the outside, i think you are right. it is like scrooge, the ghost of paul ryan is walking through the halls of congress, give mitch mcconnell his due regard to the judges, but judges aren't enough. we have a national crisis and the g.o.p. needs to get behind this president or in 2020, they are going to lose their seats as well. lou: and as we're talking about the importance with all of these deportation orders, for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, who are at large in our society, without consequence, and without any risks right now, of those orders being carried out, we have ilhan omar, the congresswoman, calling again for the abolition of immigration and customs enforcement. she is now the leading open borders advocate, an outrageous

radical democrat calling for the end of the immigration and customs enforcement and apparently the democratic party is taking her very very seriously, her anti-semitism as well. >> this is a rank anti-semite. ilhan omar is proud of her anti-semitism. today she not only said i.c.e. needs to be abolished, lou. we have the audio on my show. we also have her say there is no such thing as an illegal alien. there is no such thing. just open the borders and let everybody in, i guess, and then you'll have enough people to vote the democrats into power forever. lou: and that seems to be where we're headed because the border is obviously right now -- illegal immigrants are flooding across it. immigration and customs enforcement is releasing illegal immigrants into society because they simply cannot hold them in

detention centers any longer. and contracting for the next five years to move another quarter of a million, almost quarter of a million illegal immigrants throughout the united states. it's just stunning to contemplate where we are right now in this national emergency. and the democrats refuse to acknowledge it. the republicans seem to have -- if the president had not ordered his white house to come up with a plan, we'd be sitting here watching this without either border security or a plan to actually come up with a workable immigration system, workable in the sense that it would be in the national interest as the president's plan is. >> that last point is crucial. imagine if we didn't have donald trump as the president, hilary clinton actually gave a speech in which she talked about having no borders, a borderless north america.

the most repugnant thing is lack of honesty. the democrats say they are the compassionate ones. this is the party that is facilitating the coyotes, has no problem of the rape, sexual assault with the women and minors, has no problem with children being rented out by their parents to be used as props so that family units quote unquote come across the border. the democrats don't care about people. it's about political power. lou: and to put a cap on this thing, for every day that that border is not secure is another day in which the mexican drug cartels are commanding and controlling that border, and nothing is happening on either side of that border. certainly as they cross that border, that control is entirely in the hands of the deadliest drug cartels in the world, south of our border and if -- and in

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lou: china expanding its influence in hollywood. testifying before congress yesterday, christopher walker, he's the vice president for the national endowment for democracy said that china is flat out using hollywood to spread its influence and its propaganda. walker saying this, quote, the chinese government has trained its attention on hollywood where its presence shapes the industry in ways both visible and unseen. this leads he said to content either edited to fit the chinese market or proactively shape to exclude anything the chinese government might consider sensitive in the first place. chinese co productions also more likely he said to feature

positive depictions of china. joining us tonight to figure all of this out is morgan wright, former senior advisor in the state's antiterrorism program, national committee cybersecurity expert, great american, great to have you with us. >> thanks, lou. lou: let's start with this story that's just now coming in. a day after president trump signed an executive order that banned huawei from operating in the united states and protecting our technology, we're told that the commerce department is giving huawei a reprieve for 90 days at least. what is going on? we just had the example xi jinping implored the president to not effectively kill the company so he didn't out of the goodness of his heart, that was with another company, now the similar thing is happened with huawei. >> i worked with a lot of large

technology companies, like cisco, you don't rip and replace a network out. it has to be phased over time. it probably would have been if it had been a phased order saying in first 90 days you have to replace 25% of your supply chain and then 50. people have to keep up their networks up and running. there's no way they can do a hard cut in one day, could move to a completely different system. there's lag time. there's ordering -- lou: it was my impression that the order banned the purchase or contracting of huawei products from the moment of the order. not that they would have to extricate the equipment or hardware from networks. >> yeah, but, you know, as things age out or as there's problems, things break down. things have faults. you have to replace that. a lot of the equipment that goes into huawei equipment comes from the united states. a lot of the chips. they buy a lot of parts from the u.s. to do this. lou: much like cte did. >> yeah. lou: where are we? we seem to be caught -- it's more than a horn.

it's just an absolute nightmare of a dilemma. we're going around the country telling people not to buy the equipment because they are going to compromise their networks and provide access to the communist chinese, full access to espionage, spying on those networks, and yet we haven't got the wherewithal to shut down huawei in our networks? you've got to be kidding me. how dumb are we? >> well, look -- lou: first let's start with how dumb are we. >> i'm not an expert on that. however albert einstein once said there's two things infinite, the universe and stupidity. i am not sure about the universe. like you are talking about with china and the film industry, they have been doing this this technology for a long time. they just do a little bit here and there. if huawei were forced to be a

publicly traded company subject to scrutiny and regulations like the other ones were and they wouldn't get all the subsidies, you wouldn't see the companies buying huawei because they are cheaper. why are they cheaper? the banks fund. that's all they do. the metro system is looking to buy chinese made metro cars. why? because they are cheaper. we're dying the death of a thousand cuts. now, maybe what president trump did with this order wasn't the best way to do it. he laid down the gauntlet, laid down a marker and said this far but no farther. we will have to figure it out but we can't let china keep doing what they are doing and get away with it because we will die the death of a thousand cuts. lou: you know, dying whether it's by a thousand cuts or one, it's death. >> yep. lou: now we learn that germany, france and the netherlands all say that they will not block huawei from their 5g networks whatsoever. we're with reversing a

presidential order. we're in the hell of a spot here. what do we do now? >> i don't know. you know, if i had that answer, i would be sitting in the white house making the calls like this. i will tell you, but if you listen very carefully to what germany and u.k. and even the netherlands said, they are not blocking them. however, they're still subject to security review and the general security and intelligence organization of the netherlands has opened up an investigation into huawei to look at these things. there's only one company in the world that has these investigations and that's huawei right now. lou: morgan, you and i are good friends. i have great respect for you, but we know bs when we hear it and that's bs coming from the netherlands, from the u.k., from france and germany. that means they don't know what to do and yet, you know, they are going to surveil, they are going have to discover what huawei is? you discovered what huawei is the opening moments of this

discussion. they are an entity subsidized, directed and utterly reliant upon the chinese communist government. >> they are an extension of the chinese intelligence. they are extension of the people liberation army. in china everything that's developed in china is expected to be shared with the government and the military, and so you've got google. you have got microsoft. you have all these companies that are building stuff that are ending up in the hands of chinese. i will tell you what concerns me, lou, the five alliance, us, canada, u.k., australia, we should be united but still not getting the support from our allies. lou: it looks like a number of those allies were involved in trying to overthrow the president of the united states. so that makes for some complicated discussion, doesn't it? >> it sure does. lou: morgan wright, instructive to talk to you. we appreciate it. if you are thinking about skipping work monday because you're going to have a bit of a hangover after "game of thrones"

finale, you are not alone. a new survey finds an estimated 10.7 million americans are expected to call out sick following sunday night's much-anticipated finale. for comparison, 17 million people took off the following monday after last year's super bowl. 17 million. what in the world are we doing in this country? up next, an f-16 crashed straight into a warehouse leaving workers stunned but most of them uninjured. china wants the united states to ease up on trade negotiations. they question our sincerity. don't they question everything? you know, i'm so sorry that we're not sufficiently sincere for the people who are stealing a half a billion dollars from us, our technology, our intellectual property. i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i'm sorry if i may speak just

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by half a trillion dollars a year. they want the united states to well be in trade deficit with china in perpetuity, and now they want us to show them sincerity. well, i sincerely would tell them to go to hell were it my decision. joining us tonight gordon chang, columnist, author, senior fellow at the gate stone institute. good to have you with us. i've just about seen -- you know, i've had -- i'm just up to here with the nonsense from the chinese. why in the world are we putting up with this kind of nonsense? >> i actually don't think we are going to put up with it because i don't see a trade deal coming. lou: when i say put up with it, we've got business publications reporting from the chinese point of view. make that the communist chinese point of view, the pla point of view, the communist party's point of view against the president of the united states, u.s. interests, the national interests, the ignorance is overwhelming, and most of that

ignorance reposes on wall street, wall street firms, the koch brothers, the chamber of horro horrors, the business roundtable and the k street lobbyists who are peddling for pure money while wall street is betting its book which now has in many cases 40% of that book is chinese money. >> yeah, and what you're seeing lou is that a lot of these voices are really being quiet in the last three or four weeks. the reason is that china has delegitimized them. basically what's happened is these guys are saying the chinese wanted a trade deal, they're sincere, this is going to work out well. all of a sudden, as we know the beginning of the month, the chinese withdrew their commitments. >> they lied. they broke their promises. their word is not their bond. on wall street, sometimes there may be thievery on wall street, but it usually, you know, men and women on wall street at least, at least keep their word.

this is just outrageous. >> it is outrageous. that's why these guys, the koch brothers, the chamber of commerce, business roundtable, wall street, they have been very quiet, the reason is china has cut the legs out from under them. this is a good thing. those who want a resolute response to china are actually now driving things. we are not going to have a trade deal in a long time. one of the things that's driving the chinese right now we don't know it seems like there's real problems in beijing looks like xi jinping isn't able to force a trade deal which means we won't have a trade deal and that's the best response for us. lou: we had mnuchin running around saying we're in the concluding phase of these discussions. we had people on wall street talking about trade tariffs even though it is 2% of gdp, it is ridiculous to even think about it. we watched trillion and a half dollars disappear in the equities market over what was

basically 300 billion of, you know, affected product in tariffs. we're watching some of the strangest behavior that i can ever recall of both in terms of wall street, in terms of a principal proposaled -- principled trading partner. think about the absurdity of this. we are trying to negotiate with a trading partner and fundamental to that negotiation is we're begging them not to steal anymore from us, after they've been stealing from us for 20 years. we're begging for them not to push us into trade deficit as if we aren't in control of our own purchasing habits and spending. i mean, we look like a comple completely -- just someone that can't control itself so it's begging as a victim that you not

take advantage of us any further instead of smashing them straight in the nose. >> one of the great things is the president on wednesday, did have that huawei order, the commerce department did put huawei on the entities list. i know i don't like the exemptions that we will see for the next few months but we're going in the right direction. lou: by reversing in 24 hours a presidential order to stop a company that we are telling our allies is going to commit espionage through the technology they are buying from a chinese state-owned entity called huawei? that's crazy. >> no, but we're moving in the right direction, lou. lou: the right direction? >> i know that would probably get you upset, but the point is -- lou: the only thing that upsets me is ill-logic. i don't understand how it makes any sense when we're going backwards from defending the united states and its interests. >> six months from now those exemptions will not be given. the other good thing about this is you are having the president put the chinese off their game.

wednesday was a really important day for the united states. we're going to see a lot of other punishments on the chinese that they didn't think were coming. they thought we were a nation of bunny rabbits. no, we're not. this is good. lou: this is going to be our war cry with the chinese, we're not bunny rabbits. are you kidding? >> no, i mean, the chinese think that we're bunny rabbits, but probably no longer. you've got trump that's actually giving them a hard time. one of the important things is when this is going on -- lou: the president of the united states is giving china a hard time. they are stealing a half trillion dollars in intellectual property, weaponry, are you kidding? giving them a hard time as they steal that from us? >> what's happening in this whole dispute, you are having u.s. companies reconsider their position in china, taking their factories out of it, we're disengaging, this is going in let me use that phrase again the right direction. lou: i want to say to you right now. it's been a pleasure having

gordon chang with us tonight. the emissary of -- >> optimism. lou: optimism. a new role for him, one i haven't gotten used to. gordon, good to have you here. thank you very much, my friend. interesting news about the world's tiger population and it is frankly sad news. according to a new report, more tigers are now living in cages than live in the wild around the world. experts blame tiger farming, which is popular in places like laos where tigers are shot, killed, butchered, sold for thousands of dollars, fewer than 4,000 tigers live in their natural habitat while the number in captivity has exploded to 12,500. up next, all but one radical dem running for president coming out against a flurry of new strict anti-abortion bills all across the country. we're going to take that up and much more right after this quick

break. pastor robert jeffers will join us here next.

lou: breaking news tonight out of missouri, the republican led statehouse, they are passing a bill banning abortions at eight weeks of pregnancy.

governor mike parson set to sign that bill into law. it follows similar bills that have been signed in alabama and georgia and other bills that are working their way through state legislatures and at least another half dozen states. the radical dems 2020 presidential candidates are talking about those new laws, and every one of them, except the world's worst mayor bill de blasio have come out against them. >> how concerned are you about the possibility of overthrowing roe v. wade? >> extremely concerned. what these guys are doing is unbelievable. >> women's healthcare is under attack, and we will not stand for it! >> this is outrageous, an assault on human rights, human dignity, freedom to control your body. >> as president, i will codify roe v. wade. lou: wow, well, joining us tonight robert jeffers, member of the white house initiative, pastor of the first baptist church of dallas, fox business contributor, great american of

course. and it is good to see you, pastor. these are -- these are -- this is a wave that is taking place. this legislation, antiabortion, and the so called pro-choice advocates are having a fit. and using still the same guarded and some would say -- language and terms that are the foundation of this conflict and have been for decades. >> well, that's right, lou. and what we're witnessing is nothing short of an all out coordinated attack on abortion in america, and it couldn't come any more sooner than this. it is a great thing to witness. in fact, lou, i'm going to have to confess to you, that i sneak a peek at some of the other cable networks every night. lou: oh no. >> just to watch -- yeah, just to watch the dems and the planned parenthood executives have nervous breakdowns on tv.

it is great fun to watch that happen. let's be honest, admit, some of these bills for different states like alabama and missouri probably are not going to be upheld by the supreme court, even this conservative court has tended to be more incremental, but i think some of the other assaults, like from louisiana and indiana that are more nuanced are going to be upheld by the supreme court. the supreme court probably won't overturn roe but it is going to diminish it and that's good news for people who don't want to see children sacrificed on the altar of convenience. lou, none of this would be happening without the support of president trump. pro-life advocates feel like we finally have a friend in the white house in president trump. lou: you know, at the very least, we should be having a national discussion and a debate over this issue because we live under roe v. wade. the decision, if we can detach ourselves from our personal

perspectives and opinions on this, the court is -- should not even be relevant here. it should have been a legislative matter. it should have been handled an entirely different way. i think we would say legislatively. and the chips fall where they may. but if we have had a debate that talks about pro-choice and pro-life, we're talking about abortion and antiabortion. pro abortion and antiabortion. we need to take responsibility for what we're discussing. we need to talk about the fact that there have been 60 million, 60 million abortions in this country. that's slightly more than the number of immigrants, legal and illegal who have come into this country over the course of the past 30, 40 years. your thoughts about this and where we're headed in that debate? >> well, i think you hit on it very well early on, lou, when you said we've used euphemisms to try to obscure what this

debate is really about. when we talk about pro-choice, i never allow people to end it there. we're talking about the choice to murder a human being. that's what is at stake here. i'm a pastor as well as a christian. i look at the bible and i see that god's severest judgment, even against his own nation of israel were for killing children, using children as a sacrifice of an idol. god hates the sacrifice of children. jesus said it would be better to have a stone tied around your neck and cast in the sea than to harm a child. that's what this issue is really all about. lou: pastor robert jeffers, god to have you with us. to have you with us. -- good to have y

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♪you know it's true ♪everything i do ♪i do it for you lou: attorney general barr now investigating the obama era intelligence community as the former chiefs of the fbi, the cia, and the director of national intelligence, seem to be turning on each other. president trump today applauded the unravelling of the radical dems and the deep state. >> we are taking out this power out of washington, these bad people and returning it to the american people, where it belongs. just think about comey and these characters. [applause] >> think about comey and the gang. [applause] >> drain the swamp. drain the swamp. comey, brennan, clapper, we're draining the swamp, folks.

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