>> amen. one last thought. find a commence plane speaker next year will be very tough. kristina: that have is very true. that does it for bulls an -- and bears, "the evening edit" is next. liz: one hour from now president trump holds a rally in pennsylvania. a federal judge ruled against the president for access to his financial records. ruling in favor of the democrat led house oversight committee. the white house announcing former white house counsel don mcgahn will ignore a subpoena to testify tomorrow before the house judiciary. we break down that fight tonight. early in the day the president spent a good deal of time sounding off on everything from threats to iran and hillary clinton to the genesis of russian probe. we debate should president trump and republicans zooming in hard right now on the strength of the

u.s. economy? where are the republican because this is the 2020 fight. it will be a referendum on the economy and president trump himself. right now you're witnessing the biggest 180-degree turn around of all, it is this. a year-and-a-half before the 2016 election all the republican candidate were talking about big tax cuts. this a year-and-a-half, before 2020 all the leading democrats are talking about getting rid of trump's victory and tax cut and enacting the biggest tax hike ever joe biden issuing a campaign, stop fighting, start fixing. biden's words don't match his actions. two terms of economic failure with president obama, high unemployment, florida flat-lining growth. first administration not to top 3% growth annually. how president obama named joe biden job training czar, six years and billions of dollars wasted that did not pan out.

president will officially kick off his campaign on june june 16th. that will be father's day. four years since he came down the escalator at trump tower to announce he was running. white house officials tomorrow will brief the house and senate separately what the trump game plan is. overseas the british delivered a iranian regime, don't provoke the u.s. or they will retaliate. we have that. battle for the border being fought on the tarmac. we'll take you to the latest front. this is blocking i.c.e. from using local airport to deport illegals. it is a new chapter in the locals versus feds over border security. the stakes have never been higher. we're on the ground there in one city. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now.

♪ liz: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's get right to pennsylvania and the trump rally. fox news's bryan llenas is there for us tonight. brian? reporter: donald trump, jr. has been speaking for about 20 minutes. the president will speak at 7:00 p.m. we begin with breaking news out of washington, d.c., a federal judge ruled against the trump administration. back in april house democrats subpoenaed the accounting firm maziar's to get ahold of president trump's financial records and related to his trust. trauma's lawyers sued to block the subpoena. the federal judge sided with the democrats. that subpoena will go through they're asking for more of the president's financial documents. here at the trump rally, this is the first trump rally held in 2019 in the battle ground state

of pennsylvania. folks were lining up hours before the big rally. we expect the president to talk a lot about the economy. remember he won this pivotal battleground state by less than 1%. this was pivotal for him in winning that 2016 race. there is some sort of, some concern by some republicans about pens vape, given the fact that senator pat toomey, the republican here in pennsylvania, is kind of raising the alarm, raising a red flag a little bit about china's tariffs. he is he is saying tariffs are crippling manufacturing jobs and farming jobs. he believes the white house should not have the power to impose tariffs. it should be in the hands of congress. the latest "qunnipiac poll" here in pennsylvania shows that the former vice president joe biden has an 11-point lead over president trump. he is the only, only contender with a double-digit lead over president trump. now again, the pennsylvania

economy though has been doing really well. we can expect a lot, to hear a lot about that from president trump. the unemployment rate here in the state, 3.8%. that is the lowest since 1976. over 115,000 jobs added in pennsylvania under trump's presidency. so we can expect him to hit that really hard during his rally here tonight. mon toursville is 65 miles west of scranton, pennsylvania. we're in joe biden's yard. maybe a coincidence maybe not. a special election in the state is happening tomorrow. that is part of why he is here. president is concentrating on biden who he thinks will end up being the eventual nominee. in a tweet, trump quote said, looks like bernie sanders is history. sleepily joe biden is pulling ahead. think about it i'm only here because of the sleepy joe and the man who took him off the 1% trash heap, president o.

china wants sleepy joe badly. that is in reference to biden comments that downplayed the threat to the united states. we heard donald trump, jr. talk about that and we can expect the president to talk about that. liz: bryan llenases, thank you very much. president is about to board marine one. he is expected to speak before he gets on marine one. we'll monitor the developments. tensions flaring across the persian gulf. here is a the story. a rocket landed near the green zone in central baghdad. the rocket was fired from a eastern baghdad home to a iran-backed militia. the white house is set to brief congress on the plans in iran. britain tells iran not to provoke the u.s. or they will retaliate. joining me islamic forum for

democracy, dr. zuhdi jasser. your take on these developments. >> i have to tell you, it is great to be with you, liz. basically a little ramping up of the baseline chaos iran is used to doing in the region. they have been fueling the houthis in yemen, the irgc, iranian republican guard corps was declared a terrorist organization by the trump administration a month ago because of these things. we are warning of more threats to our folks there in syria. one of the things that we are watching very closely and i think the era of appeasement of the obama era is over. the trump ad min sprayings rightfully brought in a number of ships and troops to let iran know we are going to be ready for whatever they bring our way and people should understand, liz, that the missiles that were on that boat, now vanished. now they're gone. so i think they blinked, they

retracted. now they're using their surrogate terrorist in the region, yemen, saudi arabia, in order to continue the chaos they have always done. liz: a top iranian official taunted the trump administration using 9/11 imagery. he is revolutionary guard. he reportedly told an iranian news agency, it suffers from osteoporosis. the u.s. is like the world trade center, it collapses with a sudden hit. your take on that? >> well again the guy who is panicking. he is domestically seeing his people in the streets of tens of thousands chanting death to khomeni or they're not shouting death to israel or to the u.s. if not for russia and china's and other support they would have failed. they are trying to thump their chest while they pulled their

missiles out of the ocean. while they through some unwater bombs on to saudi ships or emirates ships. this is all bluster. they are weaker than they have ever been. president trump and secretary pompeo. liz: let's cut away, here is president trump about to board marine one. >> okay. so i'm heading to the great state of pennsylvania and we're going to have a rally. a lot of people are outside as you probably know. many, many people and going to be a packed house as it always is. i don't know if you ever seen a vacant seat for trump but i don't think so. we're going to have a good time. i don't know who is coming but i hope you have a lot of fun. reporter: [inaudible] >> as i understand it they are doing that for the office of the presidency for future presidents. it is very important precedent. the attorneys say that they're

not doing that for me. they're doing that for the office of the president. so we're talking about the future. yes, go ahead. reporter: [inaudible]. >> well we disagree with that ruling, it's crazy you look at it, this never happened to any other president. they're trying to get a redo. they're trying to get what we used call in school a do-over. if you look, you know we had no collusion, we had no obstruction, we had no nothing. the democrats were very upset with the mueller report. as perhaps they should be but the country is very happy about it, there was never anything like that and they're trying to get a redo or a do-over and you can't do that. as far as the financials are concerned, we think it is the wrong, it is totally the wrong decision by obviously an obama-appointed judge. he was a recent obama-appointed

judge. reporter: mr. president -- [inaudible]. >> i've known him, he has been against trump from the beginning. he probably want to run for some other office. i don't think he will do very well. he has been a loser for a long time. rarely votes for republicans. personally i think he is not much. reporter: [inaudible] reporter: what do you have to say to americans that your administration is stonewalling all the investigations up on capitol hill? why not let don mcgahn -- >> i think we've been the most, i think we've been the most transparent administration in history of our country. we went through two years of bob mueller with 18 people that hated donald trump. they were angry democrats as i call them. we've been through it for two years. they spent almost $40 million on it. we had i think 500 people testified. we had 1.4 or 1.5 million

documents. at the end of all of that he said there is no collusion. now what happens is the democrats want a redo. we've had enough. the country has had enough. there has never been, ever before an administration that has been so open and transparent so we, we want to get on, what we want to do is get on with running the country. reporter: [inaudible] alabama abortion law -- >> i put out my position on the, on abortion. you have known it for a long time but i put it out the other day you have it. i feel strongly about it. all of that works its way through court. along with the fact that democrats talking about third term and they're really talking about beyond third term. that is a terrible thing. reporter: [inaudible] reporter: what is going on with iran? [inaudible]. >> so with iran we'll see what happens. but, they have been very hostile. they have truly been the number

one provocateur of terror in this country, you know representing their country, but certainly our country has been very much involved because we're trying to help a lot of people out. i don't mind that at all. we have no indication that anything's happened or will happen but if it does. it will be met obviously with great force. we'll have no choice. reporter: [inaudible]. >> say it? reporter: [inaudible]. >> we have not, we have not talked about it. we'll see what happens, if they call we would certainly negotiate but that is going to be up to them. i only want them to call if they're ready. if they are not ready they don't have to bother. reporter: economic sanctions -- [inaudible] >> we'll see what happens. but right now we have very strong sanctions. we'll see what happens. reporter: [inaudible]. polls have you -- pennsylvania? >> i think we're doing very well in pennsylvania. we won it last time.

the polls had us losing pennsylvania last time and we won and i expect we'll win it this time because the coal industry, the steel industry, the car industry, they're all doing incredibly well. pennsylvania now has the best employment they have ever had. the best employment record. more people working in pennsylvania now than ever before. like in our country. so i think we'll do very well in pennsylvania. reporter: [inaudible]. >> yeah. they will appeal it. they will appeal it. sure, they will appeal. reporter: what about another child died on the border? >> well i know this, that if you look at the border and if you look at the fact that the democrats are really making it very, very dangerous for people not approving, simple, 15 minute legislation, we could have it all worked out, it would be great for people, great for lives, great for safety, and the border is a dangerous place. it is only made that way because

the democrats will not approve any legislation. i mean they don't want to approve anything. it is making the border very dangerous. reporter: [inaudible]. what do you do to make sure kids don't die? >> we're working very hard. i tell you border patrol people, all of law enforcement is working very hard. unfortunately many of them have become doctors and nurses an they're taking people that are very, very sick from a long trek up, 2,000 miles. and they're doing an incredible job. honestly, what should happen is the democrats should sit down and make changes so that we can protect people on the border. [reporters you the showing -- shouting questions ] reporter: [inaudible] >> say it again? there are no talks with iran. reporter: [inaudible] >> i think iran would be making

a big mistake if they do anything. if they do something it will be met with great force but we have no indication that they will. reporter: are you approving additional funding for puerto rico? >> so i have given more money to puerto rico i believe ever president ever. they have gotten $91 billion for the hurricane. not only that our military, our law enforcement and fema has done a great job for puerto rico. i think the people of puerto rico are thankful. [reporters shouting questions] liz: okay, the president making news here. he just said about iran, that he does not see iran doing anything militarily, but if it does, it will be met with great force from the u.s. the president also mentioned that the federal judge who has since said no to the attempt of the trump white house to push back on a subpoena from you know house democrats to get

his financial records. that was a loss for the trump white house today. the president saying it was quote an obama-appointed judge who made the wrong decision on that subpoena to get his financial records. also talking about don mcgahn, saying choosing to ignore a subpoena to testify before the house democrats, saying this is the most important, most transparent administration in the history of the country. let's get to edward lawrence with more. edward, characteristic of the president. he talked about a range of subjects. took it head on, edward. reporter: i was about to point that out. on iran he said it he would talk with iran if they wanted to. he said again we're prepared in case of any eventual alty if iran does something. he took a lot of questions about pennsylvania poll numbers. something he said he is not really worried about. steel and aluminum tariffs are working. industry is coming back.

manufacturing is coming back. he is expected to go to pennsylvania coming up. he talked about as you said, don mcgahn, former white house counsel. the democrats want a re-do what the president is saying. they want to redo the russia probe because they didn't get the outcome they wanted. the reason they want to talk, democrats on the senate judiciary committee want to talk to don mcgahn, on one section of the mueller report, that the president directed him to fire the special counsel. never followed through with that. that is the section they really keyed in on this. president said hey, this is all laid out there for the public to see. there was no collusion related to this. again, a number of different points when he is talking about with don mcgahn, the negotiations with iran. liz, there were a number of point the president covered. liz: edward, the push for the democrats is this, "new york times" said he had billion dollars in losses over a

decade. he was effectively insolvent. they want to get his tax returns to see if any russian entity floated, to citizen donald trump during the '90s and helped him out at a time there was s&l collapse, there was severe recession. the president at that time i think lost one of his casinos in 1995. the do-over the president says is do-over of mueller report to see if there is russia collusion. we'll come back at the democrat strategy for 2020 how that could possibly fail. edward, thank you very much. bernie sanders says he wants you to believe that he is not a communist in the soviet union sense. new footage showing bernie head over heels in love with the a communist dictatorship coming up. ♪ fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely.

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♪ liz: i think we're just about less than 20 months until the election and we've got joe biden, kamala harris, talking about tax hikes, talking down the u.s. economy, talking about president trump making a personal referendum on him. here is the lay of the land. we are six weeks from the longest u.s. economic expansion on record. the jobless rate is at a 50-year low. companies are adding jobs.

gdp growth rate grew by 3.2% in the second quarter. consumer sentiment at 15-year high. job openings and booming economy is really humming this is branding messaging problem for the democrats. they're asking voters to deny reality in order to get out the trump-hating base. with americans for tax reform, grover norquist. they will make it about his personality, his attacks, his tweets and undercut the facts about the trump economy. your take on all that? >> the challenge for the democrats when they want to say they want to repeal the trump republican tax cuts they're giving every american a dollar figure of what a democratic president would cost them. the middle income family with four kids would lose $2,000 every year if the trump tax cuts were repealed. a single parent earning $41,000 a year would lose $1300 every single year if you repealed those. the child tax credit would be

cut in half. small businesses would lose the 20% deduction that they get. people who didn't buy obamacare, that got the 700-dollar tax for individuals, that trump tax cut got rid of that penalty. they would be hit with that again. most of those people make less than $50,000 a year. so you could send letters and emails out to everyone, this is how much a democratic president would cost you personally in your family. that is a different thing than the democrats have done in the past personalizing how large a tax cut they want on everyone. liz: this would be the biggest tax hike. that is what the 2020 democrats are running on, the biggest tax hike. i think this country has seen in a long time. here is smart kamala harris speaking watch this. >> when i announced my proposal there were those who then said, how are you going to pay for that? [laughter] well i will tell you how.

on day one we're going to repeal that tax bill that benefited the top 1%! liz: okay. you just mentioned small businesses which were the net job creators last decade, when we didn't have job growth. how can cam cam -- kamala harris talk about slamming job growth. it certainly does hurt the economy. the tax cut that the republican passed reduces everyone's utility bills, utilities pass tax increases on to consumers through the bills and tax cuts. so americans across the country, billions of dollars in lower utility bills, those utility bills go back back up if the democrats repeal the republican tax cut. liz: okay. grover norquist, thank you so much for joining us. >> good to be with you. liz: president trump just sounding off just moments ago live on a host of hot-button issues from his former

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liz: moments ago, president trump letting loose with reporters on white house south lawn as he headed to marine one to get to night's rally on pennsylvania. edward lawrence, bringing you back with more. reporter: talking about don mcgahn, white house former counsel, the president telling mcgahn not to testify in front of the judiciary committee that would defy a subpoena by that committee. president donald trump saying that the russia probe basically is over. listen. >> they're trying to get a redo. they're trying to get what we used to call in school a do-over. if you look, you know, we had no collusion. we had no obstruction, we had no nothing. the democrats were very upset with the mueller report. reporter: the chairman of that committee, judiciary committee,

republican, representative jerry nadler, a democrat, says that he will hold that hearing tomorrow regardless of what happens. last week he said he would hold mcgahn in contempt of court if he didn't show. today nadler would not answer questions. listen. >> [inaudible] >> is he going to be here tomorrow? >> [inaudible]. reporter: the justice department just ruled that congress cannot compel senior members of the administration to testify in front of congress about their duties in their official capacity. now in a letter from the current white house counsel to representative nadler, it outlines how mcgahn has the constitutional immunity going forward. therefore cannot testify about what he did during his official duties at the white house. in the opinion out of the justice department, it points to other presidents both republicans and democrats who offered the same protection, talking about back in 2014

president obama told his assistant to the president not to testify before congress. seven years earlier president george w. bush directed his counsel to defy a subpoena there. and in 1999, president bill clinton told his counsel not to appear. now if mcgahn does not appear tomorrow, which it looks likely he will not, this is the second subpoena the administration will defy in the last four days. you may remember on friday there treasury secretary steve mnuchin did not turn over six years of president's tax returns as house democrats had wanted. back to you, liz. liz: edward lawrence. we'll need you, we'll need you in the future all this rock 'em sock 'em political fighting. reporter: we'll keep coming. liz: coming up president trump delivering a message to democrats probing him. don't look at me, look at hillary clinton. while you're at it get to the bottom of how exactly the whole russia probe began anyway? later in the show escalating showdown in seattle. here is the story.

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♪ liz: earlier today president trump urged top democrats to shift their focus to crooked hillary, tweeting, why are democrats not looking into all the crimes committed by crooked hillary and the phony russia investigation? they would get back their credibility, jerry nadler, schiff, a whole new future open to them, perhaps they could even run for president. the president's tweet comes after attorney general bill barr assigned attorney general from connecticut john durham to lead an investigation into the intelligence collection activities related to trump campaign during the 2016 election and misconduct during the fbi russia probe which robert mueller did not look at. we have former fbi assistant

director bill gavin. your take on all of this? >> liz, i'm astounded, i get a hillsborough county listening to the nonsense that democrats are putting out now. "the new york times" article said to bring mack began, not to get mack began to testify in front of the mcgahn not to testify in front. committee because he is the best reason why we can prove trump obstructed justice. don't they read anything? that has gone to bed. that all over he didn't obstruct justice. they have nobody with a strategy that he can see that is leading the democrats toward anything. they're standing on the edge of a bridge and they're all going to fall off this whole thing. i don't know what in god's name they're thinking of, when they do the things that they have done so far. there's, palpable hatred of this president is driving them to make some ridiculous decisions.

they don't want to see anything -- wait till, wait till inspector general horowitz's report comes out. that is when we're going to start focusing back again on hillary clinton. they can't afford to do that. they're in a very, very bad position. they're totally on the defense now and they still believe they're on the offense. i don't know what in god's name they want to do. liz: the white house gave mueller and testimony, documents that could have been withheld. it was not. it was not withheld as executive privilege. the president essentially saying we gave robert mueller the information he needed. he came to his conclusion. why do you need as the president just said moments ago before getting into marine one a do-over? here is the thing. president is saying what about hillary clinton acid-bleached 33,000 emails that were bleached and deleted? what about the clinton foundation probe? what about the clinton campaign, clinton side of the aisle, financing dossier all of it? it is power of surveillance state and how it was used and

potentially abused with the trump campaign that was not investigated by the mueller probe. i mean it is, that is what is the serious part of this probe, that has gone untouched so far, right? >> so far it has, when you look at nothing has been done on the hillary clinton side of things but i believe when the report comes out from the inspector general, that is going to start to snowball into how did the steele dossier come to be? what was, who commissioned it to be done and why did they commission it to be done. it will turn back to hillary again. now maybe somebody will look at once and for all what despicable thing she did in terms of the server, in terms of the bleachbit, in terms of the putting classified information on computers other than her own that were non-secure. what she did was impossible for anybody in the intelligence community to believe but she did it and she got away with it so far, but, liz, i don't believe

see will get away with it forever. it will be a very strange set of events. washington will continue to be in turmoil. there is absolutely no sense in the, mcgahn going to testify. he can raise his hand and as soon as he raises his hand, takes the oath they will find something wrong with the way he took the oath. there is no benefit for him to go before congress at this particular point in time. liz: bill gavin, former assistant director of the fbi. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure, liz. liz: federal i.c.e. agent need to local airports in order to transfer illegal immigrants to transport them out of the country, including criminal illegals. local officials in sancturary city of seattle telling i.c.e. to get lost. a judge appointed by president obama did strike a blow against the white house. lawmakers in his home state of

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♪ liz: the crisis at the border now sparking a crisis, a new

crisis in enforcement. here is the story. local officials in seattle now blocking i.c.e. from using local airports to deport illegals. fox news's dan springer in seattle with more. dan. reporter: liz, the u.s. department of transportation is threatening to withhold millions of dollars in federal grants in king county unless officials back down on the policy effectively banning i.c.e. from using this airport for deportations. 34,000 illegal immigrants have been deported through the small king county airport over the last decade. king county executive, a democrat issued a order threatening to pull contracts of operators at the airport if they continued fueling and services i.c.e. flights. all bowed to the pressure even though costing them a lot of future revenue. that means i.c.e., has to drive a handcuffed detainee to the airport in yakima, a three-hour drive, instead of 40 minutes to

seattle to the northwest detention center. local ice officials issued a statement, state and local efforts thwarting i.c.e. operations serve only to create additional security concerns and add significant delays and cost to u.s. taxpayers. the brother of a local deputy killed recently by an illegal immigrant during a traffic stop says these sanctuary policies are making it more dangerous for cops and the public. i.c.e. says it has used king county airport to deport human traffickers, rapists and. local raid show show host lasted constantine. >> he has no problem discriminating against the federal post for simply enforcing our immigration laws in this country. it really is exemplary how crazy this region has gotten. reporter: responding to the executive order that bars i.c.e. flights the department transportation sent king county a letter. federal law prohibits enforcement of any such

direction. the county received $21 million in federal grants for this airport over the last seven years. one stipulation, the county has to let the federal government have access to the airport. liz? liz: dan, a heck of a fight. thank you so much for your reporting there, sir. pushback from local governments all because i.c.e. is forced to move illegal migrant around the country to alleviate facilities that are swamped. that is another part of the story. let's break it down with national border patrol council vice president art dell cueto. good to see you, art. reaction to seattle saying to i.c.e. you can't use their airport to deport criminal illegals and other illegals? >> this is the first time i heard but i hate to comment on it but what i am seeing a whole bunch of people across the country were okay with open borders. now they're seeing reality i guess they're changing their gears and switching their mind on things. liz: seattle is sanctuary city. local officials claiming that the airports are basically their

purview, we know federal dollars pour into airports. i know you're hearing about this for the first time. when you don't, when you don't deport, art, doesn't that put a lot of duress on local enforcement and also local taxpayers who have to foot the bill for all of that? >> no, it is a big issue across the country. that is what people need to start understanding. a lot of these individuals when they stay in your towns or your cities, they are putting some stress on the local economy and they're definitely putting stress on the local hospitals. there is just a lot of things that factor in. people are just seeing one side of it and saying hey, you have to be humanitarian, you have to do the right thing. we're all for immigration. none of the people that i speak with, none of the people that i represent are against immigration. we're just against illegal immigration. there is a right thing to do things and a wrong way to do things. liz: the nuances of this story, the fact, details of the story are masked over by cries of quote racism, children being put

in cages and children separated from tear families at the border. speak to that part of the story as it relates to what we're talking about? >> i'm hispanic myself. so i'm going to tell you first-hand right off the bat, it has nothing to do with race. illegal is not a race. it's a status. i think that illegal, the whole race card is something that is just being played out way too much and frankly i think there is a lot of people are sick and tired of it. even amongst the hispanic community, i speak with a lot of individuals in the hispanic community and they themselves are sick and tired of that race card being used. liz: tucson sector border patrol roy villa real told fox news current border facilities are swamped. they're overcapacity. i like your reaction to what he said. let's listen. >> our normal detention capacity is four thousand. crisis level 6,000. as you heard mention mentioned

we're holding 10 to 12,000 a day. with constant influx of migrant arriving there is no relief in sight. liz: art, quick reaction. >> not only a huge problem with the illegal aliens we have detained in the areas, but we have to move agents to take care of illegals as they're in the detention facilities. thus facilitating the drug cartels to bring drugs, dangerous drugs into our country. that is something everyone should be worried about regardless what side of the aisle you're standing on. liz: art dell cueto, thank you for your time. more on the fight for the president's financial records. we'll debate a federal judge ruling in favor of the house oversight committee to get the president's records. a judge saying yes, they can get them. that is the ruling against the president. we'll break that down and much more, stay there. ♪ what?! i'm here to steal your car because, well, that's my job.

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♪ elizabeth: the fight for the president's tax returns just got tougher. a federal judge ruled in favor of a house subpoena for his financial records. at the same time, new york state lawmakers ginning up what critics say is a back door way to try to get his tax returns, and here's what's going on. give the chairs of the congressional tax committees in d.c. access to president's state returns. let's get right to kelsey bow lahr, senior writer with the heritage foundation. the president can push back at the state level because federal

information is often on the state return and vice versa. it is a fight that's not going away. >> do -- it's not, and these investigations are purely politically motivated which makes them tainted from the start. it's really unfortunate, because congress does have a duty to have oversight on the executive branch. but when, you know, they go after -- they put all their eggs in the one basket with the mueller investigation and that doesn't pan out, they turn to these other investigations regarding his tax returns, regarding finances, and americans can see it's politically motivated. even if they were to dig up any unflattering material, i don't think it's going to sway public opinion. elizabeth: kelsey, it's really striking here, here's the question, should elected officials be changing state laws just to get one person's tax returns? i mean, this is, again, state tax information. the president and republicans can use the same laws to try to go after democrats. they're changing precedents here, that's the issue. >> they're changing precedents,

and think about the it, these laws could also be changed to go after everyday americans and get their tax returns. i think it's really a dangerous path that we're headed on, and you're right that the tables could easily be turned, and democrats could face these types of i want to say witch hunts in the future over their tax returns if they choose not to release them. elizabeth: quickly, i want to talk bernie sanders. a politico reporter looked at hours of footage from when bernie sanders went to honeymoon in the ussr in 988, extolling the virtues of communist culture. your take on that. >> well, bernie sanders got a little snippy after this interview when he was questioned about this, and i think we all can maybe understand that because i think anyone would be, i hope, a little embarrassed about defending any sort of regime like castro. we're seeing that with democrats defending nicolas maduro in venezuela. i think this is going to

continue to be a problem for bernie sanders. elizabeth: he's now trying to distance himself from communist soviet union, but, you know, he went there when people were being chained to walls in gulags, same in venezuela, that's what's happening. crickets from the democrats with what's going on in venezuela. >> right. and it's the hard to distance yourself when there are news reports and videos of you defending these regimes and talking about how bread lines are a good thing. we all can see what's happening in venezuela. it's really, really awful. children are starving to death. the photos coming out are just heartbreaking, and it really should not be a political issue that we need a regime change there. elizabeth: your take, quick take, on former white house counsel don mcgahn will not answer a subpoena to testify before house judiciary tomorrow? >> he has every right to, you know? as the justice department laid out today, he can resist this. the president can ask him not to testify, so, you know, this is just another one of these political fights that we're

going to see pan out. elizabeth: thank you so much for joining us, and thank you for having us in your homes. thank you so much for watching. lou dobbs is next right here on the fox business network. have a good evening. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. the national security crisis at our southern border rages on. now the president's department of homeland security appears to be slow-walking its efforts to secure that border and the homeland are. tucson border patrol's chief says our broken borders encourage illegal immigration, and the entire system needs to be fixed. >> the key or the linchpin of this is to create some sort of deterrent, and that does not exist right now because we're releasing people. without detention space, there's nothing that's going to impede this flow. it's not just the border patrol,

but it's