we'll find out. that's it for us tonight. judicial watch president tom fitton, trump organization executive vice president, eric trump, national security expert k.t. mcfarlane with us tomorrow. we thank you for joining us, good night from new york. ♪ ♪ trish: tonight, a former obama official says three new models show that president trump is going to win the election in 2020. the big reason he's saying the president has the ultimate advantage. the liberal media slamming president trump for criticizing joe biden while on foreign soil, but what if i told you he's actually not the first one to do this? and we have the proof? plus, iran now saying it has no interest in negotiations with the united states. wait a second here, i mean, can we just cut to chase? the president says he's not interested in regime change in iran, so shouldn't shah be a signal -- shouldn't that be a signal for iran to sit down and do some talking?

and a google engineer describes a culture dominated by outraged mobs and witch hunts. he's here exclusively to tell us what really goes on inside google. "trish regan primetime" begins right now. ♪ ♪ trish: tonight, a massive change in tone and a shocking admission from the president. the united states, he says, has no interest in changing the regime in iran. watch. >> i'm not looking that, to hurt iran at all. i'm looking to have iran say no nuclear weapons. and i think we'll make a deal. i think iran -- again, i think iran has tremendous economic potential. these are great people. it has a chance to be a great country with the same leadership. we're not looking for regime change. i just want to make that clear. trish: wow. all right. you could have fooled me, because john bolton has said in the past -- and he's said in the not so distant past -- that the

only thing that will actually change iran is a new regime. so who's on first? i mean, why are we getting this kind of whiplash here, which is what it sort of feels like, right? is this good cop/bad cop? joining me now, k.t. mcfarlane. i don't want to get you in trouble here -- [laughter] but i'm wondering what exactly is happening because you hear one thing out of the president and something else out of bolton. >> i worked for donald trump, and i can tell you there's only one person who's making the decisions, and that is donald trump. other people may think they're making decisions, but he is the guy when's making decisions. -- who's making decisions. he knows exactly what he's doing. he's telling the ayatollah we don't want regime change, we don't want war, the ayatollahs answer him, we don't want war either. what are they saying? now, last week he said i don't like the deal, it's a bad deal. it wasn't by me, it was my

foreign minister, the president. they had a bad deal. if it was a good deal, if the iranian economy was doing well, he wouldn't be trash talking the deal. trish: so is that a window? >> i think it's a window. trish: hey, at least they all hate the deal. >> well, what that means is let's all go back and negotiate. now, the united states, time is on our side. trish: why? >> because the iranian economy has not improved. the iranian leaders said to their people, we're going to get this iran deal, we're going to be prosperous. they're not. and because oil is down, the price of oil, their major export -- their other major export is natural gas -- they are in a continuous contraction of their economy. so time's on our side. trish: what do you think the opportunity is for a potential deal? do you think this president wants to sit down and do something with iran? you know, no nuclear -- >> no nuclear, yeah. trish: -- he points out an obvious, we don't want them sponsoring terrorist organizations. that's another obvious thing. >> technology, we don't want

them to build intercontinental ballistic missiles. trish: is there an opportunity for iran and the u.s., is that part of the deal? >> the reason trump is the only guy who can do do the deal is he's been very critical of iran, right? he's a deal guy. he's said this throughout his entire career, he wants to make deals. let's trade. these are good people. they're great, you know, they're great businessmen. let's do a deal. and he's also said a number of times not just to iran, but to other countries, what you do is your own business. we're not going to tell you how to think, we're not going to tell you what religion to have, we just want to do business with you. trish: so he's being very practical -- >> yeah. trish: pragmatic possibly. >> he's not ideological. trish: so how do you -- the problem is, you know, you're dealing with a country where there is an ideology -- >> yes, absolutely. trish: and a religion that is so intrinsic in the hard-liners anyway. >> yes. trish: i don't think that's true

most of the population there. >> correct. trish: i think a lot of them like americans and appreciate western culture and maybe don't have an issue with it. but when you see that, you know, death to america kind of chants on their political floors, that's something that americans kind of cringe in response to. so so how does donald trump navigate all of that baggage? >> well, my old boss, henry kissinger, once said they've got to decide whether they're a revolution or a country. are they a cause or are they a nation. so, you know, it's up to them. navy got to help make the first move -- they've got to help make the first move, but trump has time on his side because of the economics. trish: let me can ask you this -- i agree, but, you know, they're kind of walking away from this. they're out there, is this just posturing? they're saying, you know, we're not going to negotiate. to which i'm like, wait a second, the president just said he's not interested in regime change -- >> right. trish: your ayatollah has said it was a lousy deal, the president of the united states says it's a lousy deal, so why

not negotiate? >> they didn't say they're not going to negotiate. trish: well -- [inaudible conversations] >> oh, they're already doing the back and forth. the iranian -- the persians invented chess, and they're good at it -- [laughter] and that's what they're playing. trish: that's a good way to put it. do you think this administration gets a deal done with iran? >> i do, and i think when it happens is when people realize that trump the actually might get reelected. then they're -- a lot of countries are going to scramble to make sure they don't have donald trump in a second term trying to negotiate. trish: interest. and that's another -- interesting. and that's another part of our coverage. according to "the new york times"' liberal op-ed page, the president is going to win a second term. kt mcfarlane, always a pleasure. thank you, trish. trish: president trump criticized for trash talking joe biden. here's what they're upset about.

>> kim jong un made a statement that joe biden is a low iq individual. he probably is, based on his record. i think i agree with him. joe biden was a disaster, his administration with president obama, they were basically e a disaster when it came to so many things, whether it was economy, whether it was military, defense. no matter what it was, they had a lot of problems. so i'm not a fan. trish: okay. now, i'm not a fan of what he said necessarily, i'm not condoning what he said op international soil -- on international soil, but i do want to point out the hypocrisy here: because what was the media outcry when then-president obama took to calling out his political opponents abroad over and over and over again when he was in office? >> the refugee debate is an example of us not being well served by some of the commentary that's been taking place by officials back home and in the

media. there is just a very strong tendency for us to get worked up around issues that don't actually make us safer, but make for good political sound bites. one of the things that i think the republican party has to ask itself is what is it that's happening, what was it that occurred over the last four years, eight years, twelve years, sixteen years that made a sizable number of their constituents find the sort of rhetoric that mr. trump is resorting to appealing? trish: okay. so he did it. i mean, i'm not saying two wrong make a right, i'm only pointing out, once again, the hypocrisy. "fox & friends" weekend cohost, army veteran pete hegseth joining me now. welcome back. >> thanks for having me, yeah. trish:? a little hypocritical? i mean, where were they --

>> yeah. you're right. i think there's an important distinction here though. former president obama literally invented the u.s. apology tour, the blame america first tour, the america is the problem was the underlying aspect of how he first entered the world. that's taking on your country. what president trump is doing here is framing his political opponent. we're long since past the days of politics stops at the water's edge. that's a -- we're a house divided, let's be honest. with we don't agree on much, almost irreconcilable. so political opponents are going to go at each other. for obama, america was the problem. for trump, america's the solution. he doesn't think his opponents are going to do it the right way. obama from the philippines to cuba, to london, to berlin, he literally went overseas and blamed the rise of isis on rhetoric from trump and republicans, somehow inspired isis to be renewed after he

abandoned that country and didn't sufficient hi safeguard which was happening next. president obama was shameless. in this case, trump's smacking his political opponent -- do the we expect anything else? -- and he wants to get a deal with kim jong un. it doesn't mean he wants to be buddy-buddy with an authoritarian for that sake, he wants the world to be safe from nuclear weapons. that is his ultimate goal. trish: it's an interesting nuance. and, by the way, just back to obama for one quick second, because i remember that apology tour, so to speak, i remember hearing him talk so poorly about this country overseas. it kind of made me feel bad. i mean, as an american, right? you want to see, you want to see the best in the world and the best in our country, but when he would repeatedly hit us over and over and over again, it was kind of a defeatist at tuesday, i think, sometimes the, pete, that wasn't necessarily healthy. >> yes. trish: and i relate this back to

economy, my expertise, because i look at how our economy struggled so much during those years. it just didn't matter, you could have a great jobs report, and yet somehow none of it was good enough. just like america on the international stage wasn't good enough. and sometimes a country needs a little bit of a push, right, in the right direction, a little bit of positivity. >> trish, it was the preview of the leftist movement in america today. if you hook at our universities, where barack obama came from, where young kids are learning today, america was founded only by slave owners, defined our sins, and as a result, we are the source of problems. but they never look at what we've done for the world, like sending our boys over in world war i, world war ii to liberate a continent from tyranny and then help them rebuild it. we go to other countries to rid them of scourges of things like radical islam, and then we give their country back and wish them

a better future. that is a pro-american perspective of our foreign policy. but an anti-american perspective says, no, no, we're the imperialists, we're the aggressors, we're wrong. and obama was a preview of that, and we're seeing it right now in the democrat primary and from the young upstarts, you know, the socialist from the bronx and ilhan omar from my home state of minnesota. they want to view the world through the lens of us being the bad guys, and obama was the preview of that. he just spoke more nicely about it -- [laughter] trish: that's a good point. let me get to another story, because james james comey is out with a new op-ed in "the washington post," just lies and dumb lies at that. as you can guess, he's accusing the president of highing about the fbi spying on his campaign, but do you think this is what you call a cya, in other words, is he trying desperately to protect himself to get out in front of this story? because i am concerned for our concern here. -- our country here.

i don't think it's good, but i think we are going to learn some really bad stuff about what really went town at the fbi with -- >> when you see this kind of charm offensive, it's either one or the other. they think they've got trump or a political opponent on their heels, to is they're leaking and releasing to keep the momentum. or, as you said, their trying to get in front of something. and when it's comey, clapper, brennan, strzok or page or loretta lynch, who knows if it's joe biden, we have some reports that he was involved in early discussions about so-called russian interference. so, yeah, he knows he could be in big, big trouble when horowitz gets done, when huber gets done, when all these guys -- when, ultimately, bill barr declassifies. so he'll try to get the word out this, but i think we'll get the final word -- trish: i think we will too. just to clarify so people don't misinterpret, when i say it's not healthy for our country, i mean, i don't like this, right? >> no. trish: i would have been devastated that i heard that the

president was somehow an agent of russia. and i will also be devastated if i learn that james comey and the rest of them over there were, you know, working with the obama administration to deliberately spy on a political opponent. i mean, that's bad stuff. any which way you look at it. and let's all hope that's not the case. but -- >> because you're a patriot, trish. you're a a patriot. you want the best for our nation. in this case mueller reported, and they weren't satisfied, so they're digging, they're investigating more, they're subpoenaing more. it's an ideological cause for them. it's a very big difference, and you're on to it. trish: and in the meantime, you've got a country to govern, for goodness sake. pete hegseth, good to see you. >> thanks, trish. trish: remember when top google execs consoled their workers after trump won the 2016 presidential elections? >> pretty sad for -- because of the election. >> it was really painful. >> [inaudible] >> is there anything positive you see from this election result?

[laughter] >> boy, that's a really tough one right now. trish: well, there's another conservative google engineer calling them out, writing an open letter about the company's, quote, liberal outrage mobs and witch hunts. that very google worker is here tonight for his first national it's interview -- television interview. also tonight mega pop star taylor swift revealing she's actually going to get political in her next album. oh, boy! is this what her fans want to hear? but first, a former obama official pointing out there are three major models that are now predicting a trump win in 2020. we have the debate and his reasons why next. ♪ ♪ carl, i appreciate the invite here. as my broker, what am i paying you to manage my money?

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♪ trish: the left-leaning new york times op-ed page making a powerful admission, for them anyway. you've got an obama era treasury official writing that three major models predict a trump win in 2020, and why? the economy, stupid, right? yale professor ray fare, who got the last three election outcomes right, moody's chief economy and donald luskin, a frequent best

on this show right here, all projecting that president trump will win our next election night. joining me right now with reaction, former ohio state democratic minority leader, california prix georgia far row. finish. >> obviously, there is a trend that is showing economy and incumbency in these models that, basically, are saying that donald trump is poised to win the 2020 election. as you pointed out, particularly the i believe it was the fare model out of yale, that showed just as four years ago was basically pretty much right on the money, no pun intended, it was off by a few points and what, basically, this piece in "the new york times" basically assesses, that probably is because of some of the considerations related to trump

's, quote-unquote, personality. i think there are two things to watch. no question there is a robust economy for the most part in the united states, but president trump isn't necessarily talking about it. he even said to fox news' steve hilton, look, i don't want to talk about the economy, because it puts people to sleep. maybe he should listen to these models and focus on the economy rather than some of -- trish: i think it resonates, i really to. >> that's right. trish: you look at the campaign trail and his challenge with hillary clinton, he resonated with people's pocketbooks. and i don't care what they say, they vote their pocketbooks, right? because you want to be able to insure that you have the ability to take care of your family and that, you know, people around you have the ability to take care of their families. you want to insure some kind of prosperous future for your kids, and we have hillary clinton going out there and saying, you know, we're going to get rid of these coal miner jobs. that's not going to sit so well -- >> obviously not running against hillary clinton in 2020, and i think this brings us to next point which was in one of these three studies, and that has to

do with the electoral college. i've said this to you before, trish, and i'll say it again, you know, this map in 2020 is the same as it was in 2016 which means that it really is all down -- part ofs this is not just about trump running a good campaign and focusing on the economy, but it's about who the democrats actually nominate. and that person has to be able to take those states back that trump won -- trish: who's your money on? >> like pennsylvania and wisconsin. trish: who's your money on? >> right now, i mean, i am supporting my congressman, tim ryan. as i've said, he is what i call a gen-x joe biden, but i think at this -- trish: [inaudible] >> there you go. you said it, i didn't. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] i'm a joe biden fan, i just think his time was four years ago. trish: -- on this network and, you know, joe biden, obviously, we've watched him throughout the years. and i think he has a personality that people find appealing and

that resonates. in fact, i think if the democrats put joe biden up, he would have been a much harder candidate to beat instead of hillary. >> agreed. trish: but now i look at him and some to have recent comments on china or margaret thatcher suggest he's a little out of touch in a way that, you know, tim ryan isn't. i mean, tim ryan -- and, again, i've spoken to him on the program, and i know a lot of people won't like him because he's a democrat period, but he gets the trade issues which you confront out there in ohio and the country con fronts overall. >> exactly. this is exactly why it's not just because he's from my hometown, but he has a really good mix of being younger, having experience and also being from the middle of the country so he can talk to those voters that were dell can accurates that voted -- democrats that voted for trump. we can't alienate and just be anti-trump if we want to win in 2020, and we have to offer something to american public. it is going to be an uphill

battle, i think, but with the right candidate, i think it's possible for democrats to win. but i think that president trump shouldn't take things for granted either, and he needs to focus on the economy if he wants -- trish: the economy matters, oh, yeah. bill clinton knew that. hey, capri, it's good to sew you. >> thanks, trish. trish: coming up, remember when this happened after trump's 2016 victory? >> is there anything positive you see from this election result? [laughter] >> boy, that's a really tough one right now. trish: well, now there's another conservative google worker calling his own company out. that engineer is here speaking out tonight in his very first national television interview. don't go anywhere. ♪ ♪ drive safely.. . with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer.

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own. on its own wall along the southern border. organizers with we build the wall say e they've sealed off a break in the existing fenceline in the el paso area. the crowd-funded half-mile wall reportedly cost about $8 million to build, but they raised the money and build it, they did. meanwhile, an obama-appointed federal judge has blocked president trump from transferring pentagon funds to help build parts of the wall. joining me right now, doug wead. good to see you again. >> good to see you, trish. [laughter] trish: the president wants to use pentagon funds, he says it's a national security risk. is this precedent for that? >> oh, sure. [laughter] of course there is. but there's a precedent for left-leaning judges to interrupt everything that he does too. [laughter] i think this story's a hoot. i mean, george soros can dump hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money to get things done, but some citizens -- the average donation, i think, was

$67 -- some citizen wants to give $67 to build the wall, and we've got a catastrophe on our hands. [laughter] trish: uh-huh. i mean, back to president trying to use pentagon funds, do you see the border situation and the challenges we're confronting there with now over half a million people already this year alone coming into this country illegally and being apprehended, i should say, at the border, do you see that as having precedent? in other words, can we equate using pentagon funds for security reasons right now for the border with something else in history, doug? >> yeah, absolutely. it's an emergency, and we have many emergency decrees like this in military times. woodrow wilson took over all of the railroads, just took them over and said the government runs them now. because it was needed at the time. and that's the first duty of a president when he's sworn in on

inauguration day. the main duty of the president is protect the nation, protect the people, defend the people, and a border is basic to that. i can see it. trish: and so really, you know, he shouldn't have to fight congress. maybe he should be able to get some of these funds for parts of the wall anyway, we'll see. but back to, yeah, the individuals themselves, doug, they're out there, you know, $20, $60. they've raised $8 million, and they're building part of the wall. i mean, there's capitalism for you, right? people i putting money to work where they want. maybe they don't get anything financially at this point, but i guess they get the peace of mind that they're contributing towards strengthening the border. >> it's something they believe in, and liberals should do that too. if you care about the people of honduras, i went to honduras, helped bring water to villages there in honduras. you can say you love the honduran people, and you don't have to promote illegal immigration. [laughter] i mean, change the law if you

want to make it legal for them to come. trish: well, mean, if you want to make it legal -- now, in all seriousness, because i'm tired of this idea that we just open up our borders. i mean, if you're doing that, then basically you're taking on the responsibility for all of latin america, effectively. if you say we have one big, open border, we need to somehow be ready, willing and able to provide for all of those people there. i don't think they're going to like it if we say, hey, we're taking things over. it doesn't make any sense, and i understand it's emotional because we are a, we're a very giving country. we're a very giving nation. and it's in our, you know, instincts, it's in our dna to say, hey, come here, we can help. but at the same time, you know, there's a way to do it and there's a way not to do it. >> that's right. and this is so political because i told you back in the 1970s i was bringing asians into america, orphans into travis air

force base in california, and democrats -- joe biden was block it, stopping it because asians, they were afraid, would vote republican someday, and they didn't want them coming in. so -- trish: i mean, i gotta tell you, i'm getting increasingly disappointed with our country and this polarization and all the partisan bickering. because, to me, you know, you should have a set of values, right? and subscribe to that and be consistent with it, and it's disappointing when i see this about shift just because it happens to be donald trump. they don't, you know, want to actually stand for the same policies that they used to, doug. >> it's frustrating, but there's one glimmer of hope to me, and that's in spite of all the incessant propaganda, 63 million americans elected him president anyway -- [laughter] trish: and they may do it again. >> the more they pushed, the more the americans said, no, i believe we'll go the other way,

thank you. trish: yeah. well, you know, freedom, right? >> that's right. trish: doug, thank you. another conservative google worker calling out his own party for being too liberal. coming up, he is here tonight exchoosively for his very first national television interview. but first, taylor swift just can't shake off president trump's election win. the mega pop star revealing she's getting political for her next album, but is that really what fans want? really? we're on it. see you here next. ♪ ♪

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and former obama campaign adviser robin birro. you know, ned, i'm a little disappointed because sometimes we like to keep the political stuff out to have family dinner conversation and, you know, taylor swift is a pretty, you know, neutral territory, shall we say. >> that's right. trish: or has been. she did have a situation where she got into political stuff by trying to urge her fans not to vote for tennessee senator marsha blackburn, you remember that? saying, and i'll quote here, as much as i have in the past and would like to continue voting for women in office, i cannot support marsha blackburn. her voting record in congress appalls and terrifies me. so she's entitled to her opinion, but is it from a business standpoint wise? >> no, of course it's not. i mean, i'm just remindedded of michael jordan who said, you know, i have democrats and republicans who buy my shoes, therefore, i'm going to say as neutral as possible. she's been very smart up to this

point about cultivating a fan base, they've been extremely loyal to her since she started as a country music star and made the transition to pop music. again, as you referred to, she enforced phil bredesen in that tennessee senate race. it didn't work out so well, marsha won by 10 points, and i would reminded her of the dixie chicks. they became very antagonistic towards my former boss, george bush. it didn't work out so well for them -- trish: but they wrote a great song after, right? it was a great song they wrote after about the whole thing, but i hear you. [laughter] >> but here's the deal, they faded very quickly, they never became what they were before. sometimes people just want to follow and support musicians to hear good music. and, again, i'd point out again recently with espn, new management comes in and goes, you know what? we should stop being political because sometimes people just want to watch sport, they want to listen to music. politics doesn't have to become

everything to us 24/7. sometimes you want a little escapism. trish: yeah, i'm all for. that robin, i mean, look, my kids love her, and i think she's a tremendous role model. >> very gifted. trish: in some ways she has -- very gifted, a great song writer, beautiful woman, extremely articulate, intelligent, has done a wonderful job managing her career. but, you know, simultaneously one of the things that is so appealing, i think, to her fans is that she's not polarizing, right? she's got views on things and, again, nothing wrong with having those. but if you're going to think about your image from a business perspective -- and she's got a great image -- do you want to risk that? >> i wouldn't, but i looked up taylor swift's net worth -- [laughter] it is $320 million, trish. trish: pretty good. >> i think she must have the idea that she's good and that if, or you know, her fans will be loyal, the ones that love her will stay with her. and she probably could --

[inaudible conversations] $320 million. yeah. but, you know, she's an artist. they take inspiration from wherever, and if this is the on her heart and she wants to sing about it, is so be it. if she goes the way of the kicks city chicks -- dixie chicks, i guess she'll just be happy with that $320 million -- there trr trish i don't think she has to quite worry about going the way of the dixie chicks, but it is a good warning, for sure. former fbi director james comb is out with a new op-ed in "the washington post," obviously, he's accusing the president of lying about the fbi spying on his campaign. what do you make of that? >> he seems to be increasingly becoming more nervous these days, trish. you know, he keeps on this moralizing condescension. he wrote that piece for "the new york times", he just wrote this piece for "the washington post." it really strikes me he's becoming more and more nervous. again, we've got the horowitz report coming out any week now,

a.g. barr that's going to be looking into this. you know, in that piece that he wrote he said we got a legitimate tip in the summer of 2016, and my question was if you think christopher steele was a legitimate tip, you were a terrible law enforcement officer if you thought somehow the dossier was a legitimate document that you should have used to apply for a fisa warrant to spy on u.s. citizens. i think what he's trying to do, hope that we will forget his many failures as the fbi director. trish: i started to laugh, but i shouldn't, because it's really serious stuff. and the idea that anybody in our fbi would use that christopher steele document, i mean, i read the thing. if you rated it, it reads strict out of national -- straight out of "national enquirer." so you really think i'm going to believe that at the fbi? and if i even thought there was a. >> red of truth in it, wouldn't it go out and quadruple check it? >> oh, absolutely. look, i don't have a problem with the message here with this

op-ed that just came out a few hours ago, but i have a problem with the messenger, because he's lost serious credibility on both sides of the aisle here. look, we know that russia attempted to distort, make everything crazy here and interfere in our democracy. it's what they do. it's what they've always done. >> right. >> but, you know, his only point, the only salient point that the i can grab from this is that if he was part of the deep state and going against the president in some sort of a coup, then why did he go reopen hillary clinton's investigation into her e-mails. that's a valid point. but again, like i said, i don't disparage the message, but the messenger i can't handle, i just can't do it. trish: well, you know, everybody, you know, makes him out to be the career government guy, and i just, you know, i want everybody to remember he worked for a hedge fund. i mean, nothing wrong with working for a hedge fund in my view, you know? i'm a red-blooded american capitalist.

but in other words, this is not some kind of saintly guy who had devoted his entire life to government. >> right. trish: no. he devoted it to making money. and right now he's making more money on the speech trail, right? and the book trail. >> yeah. trish: and the columns. ned, robin, thank you so much. next, the conservative google worker who is speaking out in his first exclusive, national television interview. mike wacker, he's here. he describes the outraged mobs and witch hunts that are happening at his liberal silicon valley company, google. he's next. ♪ my experience with usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family.

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♪ ♪ >> most people here are pretty upis set and pretty sad -- upset and pretty sad because of the election. >> that was the first moment i really felt like we were going to lose. it was this massive, like, kick in the gut that we were going to lose. and it was really painful. >> be very strong and vocal and, you know, not just, you know, from a press standpoint or a pr standpoint, but actually working hard behind the scenes to stand the up for what's right. trish: oh, my gosh, who could forget that video of google

executives reacting to hillary clinton's 2016 loss? now a conservative software engineer at the company is exposing what he calls the culture of left-wing, quote, outrage mobs that stifle free speech. that engineer, mr. mike wacker, warns, and i quote, if left unchecked, these outraged mobs will hunt down any conservative, any christian and any independent free thinker at google who does not bow down to their agenda. we have reached out to google to comment about this, and they did not provide us with a statement. but joining me right now exclusively is conservative google engineer mike wacker. mike, welcome. >> thank you. trish: still work there? >> right now, yes. [laughter] trish: well, you're a brave man. >> thank you. trish: what's it like? being a conservative at google? >> it is really rough. like, i've been through the experience of college of kind of being in the viewpoint minority

and kind of being the outlier politically. like, back then i used to joke i was in a hostile environment, and then google by comparison, it really is a hostile environment. trish: how so? i mean, we've seen the tape, right? we saw 2016, you know, the day after the election, obviously, the executives were extremely upset. but talk to me specifically about the hostility you feel that you face every day. >> i think the main thing is sometimes it's just hard to avoid kind of the hostility to conservative views of the company. like you check, like, i don't know, anywhere you to it's like, you go to lunch, there's political discussions. i mean, yeah, there's always some sort of outrage mob about whether it's some topic -- trish: so what do you do in those cases? >> what do you do in those cases?

i mean, it's so hard a. at the one point it's like these outrage mobs are so hostile, you kind of want to push back, say, hey, maybe -- [inaudible] if you push back, they can turn on you. trish: what do you mean by turn on and mobs and outrage mobs and sort of witch hunts that you talk about? i mean, are they looking for you? are they looking to find anybody that disagrees with their political viewpoint and expose you in a way that would be detrimental to your career? >> it's very similar to a lot of the outrage mobs you've kind of seen on college campuses where it's so hard to predict what's going to get them offended next. like, i saw one instance where another employee, like, he shared a national review article, and then he got reported to h.r. for that. trish: at google? >> you don't know -- yeah. you don't know what's going to offend somebody next. and a lot of times they're going to h.r., like, over these trivial things. trish: have you been to h.r.?

have you said, hey, i don't feel like it's fair here? >> i've said things to them. i mean, i've kind of even seen, like, one person he made employment threats. he basically said anyone who kind of shares the views of -- [inaudible] heritage foundation, you should keep these to yourself or get out of the company. said something to h.r., i said we're getting into the realm of employment threats right here, and that's not right. they didn't really do anything. they said, oh, it doesn't a appear to violate google's policies. you offend someone at the company, then you can get in trouble with h.r -- trish: look, we all believe in the freedom of speech and everybody's entitled to have their opinion, but i think -- and i'm curious to get your thoughts, mike -- i think, you know, the mark of a great company is actually having diversity, including intellectual diversity. and google will be much better served to welcome different opinions at the table.

i mean, if you're really going to succeed, you need to be thinking through all angles on any given thing. and the fact that they're not willing to tolerate -- if that's, in fact, the case -- a diversity of opinion, it's pretty discouraging. and i hope, because i believe in a market economy and intellectual diversity, i hope, ultimately, serves to hold them back. finish but what's your future like there? >> my future? i just kind of go day by day. to be quite honest. i mean, i come, i'm like, oh, i'm here another day. thank quod for that. trish: and this is your first national television interview. >> yeah. a little nerve-wracking, but i'm here. trish: how's that going to go over tomorrow? >> tomorrow, i've not thought that far ahead yet. [laughter] i mean, well -- trish: you may want to! [laughter] >> i mean, i was very thoughtful in deciding whether i wanted to do the interview or not. it was just focus on the interview and don't worry about

anything else. trish: you're doing a great job. >> thank you. trish: i know it takes some courage to get out there in front of this, but intellectual diversity is something that's incredibly important for every single company and this country. thank you, mike. lots more coming up next, including a look at the major interviews on tomorrow's show. ♪ ♪

trish: breaking news right now. a source telling writers that

british x spy christopher steele will not cooperating with prosecutor john durham in the trump origins probe. fox reached out to the justice department but they have declined comment. christopher steele, he is the ex british spy that compiled the whole dossier. the one i was talking about earlier that read like it was out of the national enquirer. that was the dossier that our fbi used, by the way, paid for by hillaryclinton's team , used to get a fisa warrant on carter page to spy on the trump campaign. so you know there's a lot of questions and this is something attorney general bar is trying to get to the bottom of and john durham certainly is. but now christopher steele who by the way, collaborated with the fbi in the past, is saying he will not give them any information about what actually went down. i guess that leads to more questions. a big show tomorrow night. i do hope you to an end. the man we recognize in the

free world, recognizes as the president of venezuela, juan guaido, is here exclusively! also tomorrow, china global television news anchor, will be joining us live from beijing. beijing and caracas, big night! kennedy: is a big night every night here, thank you, trish! the battle between president trump and joe biden is going into overdrive. the commander-in-chief now openly questioning the intelligence of the former vp. but some said thepresident has go so far so should he backoff us an offense against the current democratic 2020 front runner ?the latest firefight started last week when the north korean state media called joe biden a fool. and an imbecile while on his weekend trip to japan the president commented on the jobs via twitter writing quote - north korea fired off some small weapons which disturbed some of