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trish: we have the fallout with former trump campaign manager corey lieu wan dow can sky and former federal prosecutor doug burns. plus, the communist party of china's cgtn host is here live tonight, and we're talking trade. "trish regan primetime" live from new york city, caracas, venezuela, and beijing, china begins now. ♪ ♪ trish: the special counsel breaking his silence today. robert mueller speaking out for the first time publicly about his two-year-long russia investigation saying charging president trump with a crime was not an option. though he added if there was evidence to contrary, the report would have mentioned it. watch. >> if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.

we did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime. under long item standing department policy -- longstanding department policy, a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. that is unconstitutional. charging the president with a crime was, therefore, not an option we could consider. trish: does it change anything? let's go to my next guest, former trump 2016 campaign manager corey lewandowski and former federal prosecutor doug burns. doug, i'm going to start with you, i just want to understand the legal aspects of this. is it, was it mueller's job really to determine if there was enough evidence for a case to impeach the president, and i guess the most recent historical example would be ken starr who actually did recommend -- >> yeah. i've been scratching my head watching these highly-charged cases and where i come down on this finally is that in the day-to-day case, thousands of cases, you have one set of

rules. when you get into these high publicity cases, cases with celebrities and political cases, you see major figure making all of these ridiculous blunders, etc. let me give you an example i've given you before. i'm announcing that i'm not prosecuting a bank robbery case. i can't exonerate the person because next thursday they may say, oh, by the way, here's a video of the guy robbing the bank. well, then i'm going to prosecute the case. so to answer your question, i hope, nobody ever exonerates anybody. if you decline a case, you turn around and say we're not going forward with the case, that's it. and you don't turn around and start trashing anybody and writing 400-page dime novels. what happened here was comey did that to hillary clinton, so this was sort of subliminal payback for that, in my opinion. trish: whoa, okay. [laughter] >> that's just the way i call it. trish: corey, why do you think he did this? >> you know, this is $35 million of taxpayer money wasted.

if bob mueller had said this at the very onset which was the president cannot be charged with a crime, then this whole two-year hoax would have come to an end at the beginning because he could have gone and looked at people around the president if he wanted to and didn't need to be the special counsel. he was looking for the opportunity to go after this president from day one. if you look at the team he assembled, the hundreds of subpoenas, the dozen is the and dozens and hundreds of people he brought in there, they wanted to find evidence, first, of collusion with the russians and then obstruction, but there was none there. the case is closed. trish: i mean, when you think about the team itself and the biases there, but again, you know, i point everybody back to mueller report itself, and there was no collusion. the russians actually -- they tried. they tried to get you guys. corey, you were part of that team. they tried to get to you, and they could not get to first base. so i guess i just come back to from a legal perspective, doug, if you know there was no "there" there, why do you keep pursuing

it? >> working off of corey's point, if it turns out that they knew say a year before the mueller report was released that this really was no collusion, that makes it difficult, if not impossible to turn around and try to maintain a credible obstruction of justice case. i've spoken to a lot of experts colleagues and friends of mine, you're under investigation, somebody gets called to grand jury and i say, look, on that trish case, we all know the light was red, but we want you to say it was green. but people are getting out in front of the skis. in a case like this, politically-charged case where the main issue under investigation is whether or not there was collusion between the campaign and the russians and it turns out there was not, federal prosecutors argue all the time. if somebody was really innocent, don't you think they would have gotten angry, lash out? that's what innocent people do, by the way. so, of course, the president was angry, frustrated, made ill-advised public comments.

but, again, it's not -- it doesn't rise to level of corrupt -- trish: and yet here we are tonight, corey, and you know the media's going to to have a field day with it. they've been going strong all day. this is, you know, the number one issue to them, and you've already seen, what, six democrats come out and say impeach, you know? is this fuel to fire? i mean, i'm a little concerned because i actually think there's some important stuff we've got to get to too, some pretty important international issues, and yet this is going to dominate the news cycle, corey? >> you know, trish, this is why congress has about a 6% approval rating, because now they want to focus on something there was no crime, there was no obstruction, there was no collusion, and they want to talk about impeaching the president for doing one thing which is putting america first. congress should put their heads down, pass an infrastructure spending bill, let people buy health insurance across state lines, you know, fix the problems that we have overseas whether it's a north korea issue, a venezuela issue, we have real problems, and congress

wants to play these games, and the american people are tired of it. if the democrats pursue this notion of impeachment, they will lose at the ballot box worse than they could even possibly imagine if. trish: yeah, i mean, honestly for their own good, it's interesting to watch nancy pelosi on this because while you have some members on the left jumping in feet first, she's been reluctant. and i think that she understands the politics and how this plays out. you have only to look back to what this did with the republicans with clinton, right? this movie has been played before. you're right, corey, i mean, if americans feel like congress is not pursuing things that are beneficial for the country and they're bogged down in so-called politics, then we may not see so many democrats get elected in 2020. it is wonderful to have you guys here tonight. corey, doug, thank you so much. all right, lots more coming up. the interview all of china seems to be talking about. lou shin, she's here live from beijing tonight to talk trade with me. but first, venezuelan beef

beef -- peace talks have ended in norway with no deal. juan guaido is here exclusively live from caracas to respond right after this. [gunfire] carl, i appreciate the invite here. as my broker, what am i paying you to manage my money? it's racquetball time. (thumps) ugh! carl, does your firm offer a satisfaction guarantee? like schwab does. guarantee? (splash) carl, can you remind me what you've invested my money in? it's complicated. are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is being managed? if not, talk to schwab. a modern approach to wealth management.

♪ trish: tonight, peace talks

between representatives for the socialist dictatorship of nicolas maduro's regime in venezuela and the opposition led by the man the u.s. and over 50 other countries recognizes as the president of venezuela, they have ended with no deal. all this as the people grow more desperate. i want you to see this video. this is video of people waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting, and they're waiting for fuel. we're told that in some cases people can wait in lines like that for four days. joining me right now for the first reaction since the news out of norway broke live from caracas, venezuela, president juan guaido. señor, good evening. [speaking spanish] >> translator: good evening, trish, thank you. trish: what happened in norway? why is there no resolution? [speaking spanish]

>> translator: well, as you know, trish, we have been struggling in venezuela for the past five months in the streets of venezuela, demanding the end of the usurpation of power so we can serve and attend the humanitarian crisis. we're talking about children that are suffering, we're talking about seven million people that are in need of, dire need of humanitarian aid. and through the mediation with other, with other european if actors and also a group of -- [inaudible] those are the stages of our struggle where we can attain the end of the usurpation of power, transitional government and free elections. of course, we want to reach a

solution to conflict, and we will be present at any negotiation. there was no agreement, and there was no meet agreement, so the chance that we have today is to remain in the streets with the group of lima. there was an important meeting and the group of contacts next month, so we'll continue to advance on this road map til we can take care of this humanitarian crisis, seven million people -- trish: [speaking spanish] very difficult. >> translator: and over four million people that have had to migrate to other cubs. trish: i understand that you spoke with the vermont this even -- the vice president this evening, mike pence. what did he say? [speaking spanish] >> translator: yes, it was a very kind conversation with vice president mike pence.

he showed he's concerned for the collapse of public services in venezuela. maduro is still detained -- [inaudible] member of the parliament -- [inaudible] no longer enjoyed the parliamentarian immunity, suffer from censorship. even internet access has been cut off last week. very important -- [inaudible] for venezuela. but despite all this, we remain on the streets. we continue to talk in the group of lima. we support that we have -- the support that we have received from other countries supporting democracy and freedom, and at the end of the day we want this

transition towards freedom and democracy again. trish: [speaking spanish] it's very important that you guys have that liberty there. what's happening now with the humanitarian aid? is any aid getting through? [speaking spanish] >> translator: yes. we have managed to get through but not in the volume that's actually required. trish: [speaking spanish] why not? >> translator: with a lot of difficulty really. because it's blocked by the government. the government of nicolas maduro. they burned, they set medicines on fire. they've blocked all our attempts to get humanitarian aid through. more than six children have died in the last week because of lack

of treatments. especially in the interior of the country. the situation is dire. trish: spanish it's terrible. [speaking spanish] it's terrible. tell me what is happening with the military in venezuela are. [speaking spanish] >> translator: in hospitals in venezuela, there are no medical supplies. there is no medical care. the primary care programs that was proclaimed by the government is no longer in existence. we -- there are no vaccines for our children. this is a very delicate situation. we're talking about seven million venezuelans that are in need of humanitarian aid. and this has been caused by the incapacity of human beings of our, of the government.

people who have stolen billions of dollars. we don't even have gasoline. trish: [speaking spanish] >> translator: they're not able to -- trish: venezuela is so wealthy with oil. and you guys don't even have that. these basic necessities. [speaking spanish] but the people have nothing. let me fast forward, assuming that you're able to get some negotiations underway, what guarantee might you have, would you have if there are new elections, that those will be fair elections? [speaking spanish] >> translator: the only way to have free elections today, truly

free -- which, by the way, we do not validate the elections from may 20th last year. trish: [speaking spanish] i know. >> translator: we need to have a new electoral council is so we have true institutions that can actually guarantee participation for all stakeholders, for all parties. so we can also turn to humanitarian crisis. we're very concerned, because we could go from this humanitarian crisis to a humanitarian catastrophe in the short term because of lack of gas. for the past five months, a lot of people that have no access to water, to drinking water. so that's the emergency that we need to take care of at the moment. trish: [speaking spanish] you don't have these basic necessities like medicine and

fuel and in some cases water. met me turn to -- met me -- let me turn to, you mentioned the group of lima. are you seeing enough cooperation from brazil and from colombia? what's going on now? [speaking spanish] >> translator: well, brazil and colombia have been supporting us. they've received migrants, now we're talking about four million people have migrated. this is the highest number in the last 30 years due to this humanitarian crisis and lack of opportunity. so in that regard, they have been supporting us. but also they have also received the humanitarian aid. all the aid from the united states, from europe has been stored in these two countries in centers. even though we haven't been able

to achieve the volume that we wanted due to blockade of the government of venezuela, because the kids of colombia -- [inaudible] according to them 41% are participating in the region, in their paramilitary camp which is also a net for the region. trish: i know. well -- >> translator: and this has turned into very worse, a very concerning situation for drug trafficking in the region. trish: [speaking spanish] i know, we've reported on that. well, be careful. we're watching you and we're all saying a prayer -- [speaking spanish] thank you. >> translator: thank you, trish. we continue to struggle for

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is thinking about trade and about the united states. now, in the interest of transparency, i should explain that i don't speak for anyone but myself as the host of a fox business show. my guest, however, is part of the ccp, and that's fine. as i said, i welcome different perspectives on this show. with all that in mind, i'm very pleased tonight to welcome ms. if liu shin, host of "the point with liu shin" to "trish regan primetime" tonight. and just quickly to viewers, please bear with us as we have a significant time delay in our satellites between beijing and the u.s., and because of that, we're going to do our very best not to speak over each other, but, shin, welcome. it's good to have you here. >> thank you, trish. thank you, trish, for having me. it's a great opportunity for me, unprecedented. i never dreamed that i would have this kind of opportunity to speak to you and to speak to

many audiences in ordinary households in the united states. trish: yeah, it is, indeed unprecedented -- hang on -- >> you said to couple of things -- trish: i'm going to jump in. i guess our -- >> i am not, i am not. trish: forgive me, you're not what? >> yeah. trish, i have to get it straight, i am not a member of the communist party of china. this is on the record, so please don't assume that i'm a member, and i don't speak for the communist party of china, and i'm here for today, i'm only speaking for myself as liu shin, a journalist working for cgtn -- trish: well -- [inaudible] okay, appreciate it. what's your current assessment of where the trade talks actually are right now? >> sorry? trish: give me your current assessment of where we are on these trade talks. do you believe a deal is possible? >> it is true that the satellite

connection is not very good, but i believe that you're asking me where we are in terms of the trade negotiations. i don't know. i don't have any insight or information. what i knew was the talk were not very successful last time they were going on in the united states, and now i think both sides are considering where to go next. but i think china has made, the chinese government has made its position very clear that unless the united states treat the chinese government, treat the chinese negotiating team with respect and show the willingness to talk without using outside pressure, there is high possibility that there could be a productive trade deal. otherwise i think we might be facing a prolonged period of problems for both sides. trish: and i would stress that trade wars are never good. they're not good for anyone. so i want to believe, shin, i want to believe that something can get done -- >> agreed. trish: these are certainly challenging times, i realize

there's a lot of rhetoric out there. let me turn to one of the biggest issues, and that's intellectual property rights. fundamentally, i think we can all agree it's never right to take something that's not yours. and yet in going through so many of these cases, cases at the independent world trade organization, the wto that china's a member of as well as the doj and fbi cases, you can actually see some of them on the screen right now, there's evidence there that china has stolen enormous amounts of intellectual property, hundreds of billions of dollars worth. now, you know, that's a lot of money. but truly, i guess we shouldn't really care if it's hundreds of billions of dollars or just 50 cents, how do american businesses operate in china if they're at risk for having the property, their ideas, their hard work stolen? >> well, i think, trish, you have to ask american businesses whether they wanted to come to china, whether they find coming to china and cooperating with

chinese businesses has not been profitable or not, and they will tell you their answers as far as i understand. many american companies have been established in china, and they're very profitable, and the great majority of them, i believe, plan to continue to invest in china and explore the chinese market. u.s. president donald trump's tariffs makes it a little more difficult, makes the future uncertain. i do not deny that there are ip infringement, there are copyright issues or there are piracy or even theft of commercial secrets. i think that is something that has to be dealt with, and i think the chinese government and the chinese people and me as an individual, i think there's a consensus. because without the protection of ip right, nobody, no country, no individual can be stronger, can develop itself. so i think that is a very clear consensus among the chinese, you know, society. and, of course, there are cases

where individuals, where companies go and steal, and i think that's a common practice probably in every part of the world. there are companies in the united states who sue each other all the time over infringement on ip rights, and you can't say simply because these cases are happening that america is stealing or china is stealing or the chinese people are stealing. basically, that's the reason why i wrote that rebuttal, because i think this kind of blanket statement is really not helpful. really not helpful. trish: well, it's not just a statement, it's multiple reports including ed from the wto. but let me ask you about huawei, because that's -- >> sure, i don't deny those. no, i don't deny those. trish: right. you know, look, i think as i said we can all agree that if you're going to do business with someone, it has to be based on trust. and you don't want anyone stealing your valuable information that you've spent decades working on. anyway, china passed a law in

2017 requiring tech companies to work with the military and the government, so it's not just individual companies, right, that might be getting access to this technology, it's the government itself which is an interesting nuance. but i get that china is upset that huawei's not being welcomed into the u.s. markets. i totally get it. so let me just ask you this, it's an interesting way to think about it, i think. what if we said, hey, you know, sure, huawei, come on in. but here's the deal, you must share all those incredible technological advances that you been working on. you've got to share it with us. would that be okay? >> i think it is, if it is through cooperation, if it is through mutual learning, if it is through -- if you pay for the use of this ip of this high technology, i think it's absolutely fine. why not? we all, we all prosper because we learn from each other. i learned english because i had american teachers.

i learned english because i had american friends. i still learn how to do journalism because i have american copy editors or editors. so i think that's fine so long as it is not illegal. i think everybody should do that, and can that's how you get better, right? trish: but you mentioned something pretty important which is that you should pay for the acquisition of that. and, you know, look, i think that the liberalized economic world in which we live has valued intellectual property, and it's governed by a set of laws. and so we all need to kind of play by the rules and play by those laws if we're going to have that kind of trust between each other. but i think you bring up some good points. let me turn to china which is now, wow, the second largest economy. at what point will china decide to abandon its developing nation status and, well, stop borrowing

from the world bank? >> well, i think this kind of discussion going on, and i've heard very live discussions about this and, indeed, there are people talking about china already becoming so big, why don't you just grow up. basically, i think you said it in your program as well, china, grow up. well, i think we want to grow up. we don't want to be dwarfed or poor, underdeveloped all the time. it depends on how you define developing country, right? if you look at china's overall size, the overall size of the chinese economy, yes, we are very big, the world's number one. don't forget, we have 1.4 billion people. that is over three times the population of the united states. so if you divide the second largest overall economy in the world, basically when it comes down to per cap that gdp -- capita gdp, i think we're less than one-sixth of that of the united states and even less than some other more developed countries in europe. so you tell me where shall we

put ourselves. this is a very complicated issue, because per capita, as i said, is very small. but overall it's very big, so we can do a lot of big things, and people are looking up, looking upon us to do much more around the world. so i think we are doing that, we are contributing to united nations, we are the world's biggest contributor to u.n. peacekeeping missions, and we're beginning out donations and humanitarian aid and all of that because we know we have to grow up. and, trish, thank you for that reminder. [laughter] trish: let's get to tariffs. i've seen some of your commentaries too, and, xin, i appreciate that you think china could lower some of its tariffs. i watched you say that, and i'm totally in agreement with you. in 2016 the average tariff effectively a tax that was charged on an american good in china was 9.9%. now, that was nearly three times what the u.s. is charging. so what do you say about this?

what do you think about saying, hey, you know, the heck with these tariffs, let's get rid of them altogether. would that work? >> i think that would be a wonderful idea. i mean, don't you think? for american companies, products from china would be even cheaper, and for consumers in china, products from america would be so much more, so much cheaper too. i think that would be a wonderful idea. i think we should work towards that. but, you know, you talked about a rule-based system, rule-based order. this is the thing, if you want to change the rules, it has to be done in mutual consensus. basically, we talk about tariffs. it is not just between china and the united states. i understand if you lower tariffs just between china and the united states, the europeans will come, the japanese will come, the venezuelans probably would come and say, hey, we want the same tariff. you can't discriminate, you know, between countries. so it is a very complicated settlement to reach, and i think

there's a lot of agreement that china and the -- about trade, yes, i'm talking about tariffs. and i think the last time when the world agreed on the kind of tariff reduction china should commit to was exactly the result of multilateral and years of difficult negotiations. the united states saw in its interests and decided to what degree they can agree or to what degree they could lower their tear will have. -- tariff. china agreed to lower our tariff considerably. it is all the decision of countries according to their own self-interests. now, things are different, yes, i agree, 20 years later. what are we going to do? maybe these old rules need to be changed. you know what? let's talk about it. let's do it according to the rules. if you don't like the rules, change the rules. but, again, it has to be multi-national -- multilateral -- trish: yeah, i was going to say, you know, you could go back to trade agreement of 1974, there

is a rule that enables the united states to use tariffs to try and influence behavior of china should it be taking, stealing our intellectual property. and that, i think in some ways, is part of what this all comes back to, and it's this sense of trust. i hear you on the forced technology the transfer, and i think that some american companies perhaps have made some mistakes in terms of being willing to overlook what they might have to give up in the near term. but this is an issue i think where the country as a a whole needs to step in, and we're seeing the united states do that. perhaps, xin, in a way that hasn't happened. i mean, it's been in the background, don't get me wrong. i think previous administrations have identified the challenge but have really been a little unwilling to take it on. so we're living in these very different times. how do you define state capitalism?

>> you mean how do i define -- sorry, i didn't hear the last -- you mean forced technology transfer? trish: no, state capitalism. state capitalism. in other words -- >> because you started with the whole technology transfer, is and somehow you kind of skidded away. trish: i'm paying a compliment here. i want to say, you know, your system of economics is very interesting, because, you know, you have a capitalist system, right? but it's state-run. so talk to us about that. how do you define it? >> well, we would like to define it as socialism with chinese characteristics where the market, where market forces are expected the play the dominating or the deciding role in the allocation of resources. basically, you know, let the market -- we want it to be a market economy, but there are some chinese characteristics.

for instance, some state-owned enterprises which are playing an important but increasingly smaller role maybe in the, in the economy. and everybody thinks that china's economy is state-owned, everything is state-controlled, everything is state, state, state. let me tell you, it is not the true picture. if you look at the statistics, for instance, 80% of chinese employees were employed by private enterprises. 80%. 80% of chinese exports were done by private companies, were produced by private companies. about 65% of technological innovation were achieved, were carried out by private enterprises. the largest, some of the largest companies that affect our live, for instance, some internet companies or some 5g technology companies, they're private companies. so we, or we are, yes, a socialist economy with chinese

characteristics, but it's, you know, not everything is state-controlled, state run. not like that. we are actually quite mixed and very dynamic and actually very, very open as well. trish: well, i think you need to probably keep being open. i think that that, you know, as a free trade person myself, i think that that's the direction to pursue. and, ultimately, that leads to greater economic prosperity for you and better economic prosperity for us. and so then you've got a win/win. >> absolutely. trish: this is interesting. i appreciate you being here. thank you. >> thank you. thank you so much. if you want to have a discussion in the future, we can do that. if you want to come to china, you're welcome, and i'll take you around. thank you, trish, for the opportunity. trish: i'd love it. [laughter] okay, you know, i would just say, as i told xin, no one wants a trade war. but we have to think long and hard about the right next step.

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♪ ♪ trish: i just spoke with china state t anchor liu xin. she has an opinion program on an english-speaking station there, and if you missed it, you can watch our fascinating discussion on foxbusiness.com where we are posting it tonight. it was really interesting. i mean, shefectively conceded that china does engage in theft of american intellectual property. watch. >> i do not deny that there are ip infringement, there are copyright issues or there are piracy or even theft of commercial secrets. i think that is something that has to be dealt with, and i think the chinese government and the chinese people and me as an

individual, i think there's a consensus. because without the protection of ip rights, nobody, no country, no individual can be stronger, can develop itself. trish: there you go. pretty interesting conversation. the first of its kind, actually. and i guess you can say i certainly welcome all sides. i do. i do, because that diversity makes us better informed. joining me right now, senior fellow and director for chinese strategy at the hudson institute and and author of "the hundred-year marathon," michael pillsbury. michael, good to see you. hi, trish. trish: what's your reaction to that? >> well, i thought you were both very well prepared. i would recommend another round. let this just be the first. you'll notice how it is possible to get agreement on, in principle on intellectual property theft. she was willing to admit to you that china has a state-controlled economy, but she claims it's 80% free market.

so that could be negotiated. you're a pretty good negotiator. you were very polite -- [laughter] you didn't get angry at her for calling you emotional last time. you had a lot of substantive points. i thought she was very poised. she was ready to make some of her key points and also to be pleasant. this is part of the problem president trump's team of negotiators have faced over the past year. the chinese are very pleasant, and they essentially deny almost everything. so we ended up with in the 150-page agreement which, i think, was excellent in its details, in its enforcement. then they backed out of a great deal of it, and now we're at an impasse where there are no talks going on anymore. trish: well, the talks should happen, and that kind of transparency, i think, is needed. >> yes. trish: i did appreciate that she admitted the intellectual property theft, because i think that's a big one. >> yeah, of course. they have trials and courts --

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program. not a card caring member of comescommunist party in china. if you are not subscribing on party is beliefs. >> she is very discreet, sticks to line of chinese comes communt government, there is no criticism of president, whic xit calling her shin, that means happy in chinese. she agreed with you that zero tariffs should be a goal of both sides, president trump keeps saying that himself. she avoid will some harder questions. >> can we get that? in your view.

the intellectual property thing is challenging. then we keep saying next try. so i think this president has really tried to slam his -- you can't keep telling us you are doing one thing, then do another. >> it would be very difficult. i am not optimistic, i think basically more pressure is needed, xin, talked to not negotiates with a gun to your head. i think it will take more pressure. more realization on their side of damage caused to the chinese people, i think a second round, you and xin get into more details. get too the subsidies. trish: we'll dig in, thank you.

>> i have more thoughts on this. >> thank you, i'll share them with you after this.

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i have a very international perspective, i believe every nation should be transparent and fair, there is more work doing done, we'll continue talking about it see you tomorrow. ♪ kennedy: thanks, ladies and gentlemen, case closed. or is it? president trump said robert mueller's surprise statement on the russia investigation is proof that whole thing is finished. but for democrats, robert mueller's comments are fueling calls for impeachment. at 11:00 this morning, robert mueller made first and only statement in two years since the investigation began, many people here at fox didn't know what his voice sound the like. before he spoke, few people knew what he was doing to say -- going to say, he did expee speaa particular part caused a earthquake in tdc .